Re: [WISPA] WB 58DP - 20dB off? WAS: Candy
Spent another couple minutes on this link today. This is really strange... The 58DP end, when in 802.11a mode actually picks up a few other sites, at decent signal. About what I'd expect to pick up the other sites at. The 58DP w/ shroud end, which is right downtown picks up nothing. At all. It should be picking up a bunch of garbage from everywhere. So that leaves the question... is the shroud so well designed, and the dish so high-performance, that it's not picking up anything because of its design? Is the alignment super-tight on the dish with shroud? Nobody checked the plumb-ness of the arm before sticking the dish on it, maybe that's why the elevation angles are different from both ends? Maybe I should try taking the dish w/ shroud out of the equation, and just stick a rootenna on that end or something, just to test with? Any ideas or help appreciated Jayson On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 9:49 PM, Jayson Baker jay...@spectrasurf.com wrote: I will try that. The link is clear. One end atop a 12-story building. The other end is on the side of a house. Elevation at the building is about 6200', house is probably around 9000' On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 6:07 PM, Mike m...@aweiowa.com wrote: 6 dB difference at the ends? It sounds like the weaker link might be seeing an incidental signal from a reflection source. Have you tried setting the link to 20 MHz or 10 MHz channels? If it is severe multipath a minor change in height may make a big difference. Water tower or big steel building close to the link? At 01:41 PM 10/7/2009, you wrote: Yeah, we flipped polarity. It's an 802.11n link, so shouldn't matter but changed anyway. No difference. Tried chain 0, chain 1, chain 0+1, no difference. Cables came from Tessco, are brand Wireless Solutions I think. 3' long. Times cable, but look like RFI connectors. The bag they came in said professionally assembled and tested - we've used the same on other sites without issue. The feed assembly looks to be in correctly. Not much way to screw that up on these antennas. My concern of one being bad or something is related to the fact that 2-degrees on one end, and 8-degrees on another seems really odd. lol, I don't think the other site is further down than this site is up. Jayson On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 12:39 PM, Randy Cosby dco...@infowest.com wrote: I assume you checked for reverse polarization? Jayson Baker wrote: Got back to both ends of our WB 5.8GHz links today. RadioMobile says it's 10km, we should have 5-degrees up/down tilt, and using the WB dishes see -59dBm. We're seeing only -80dBm on both polarities. Cables are new, professionally made and tested. Pigtails are new, tested. Radios are new, tested. WB dishes... on one end, we have up-tilt of about 2 degrees. On the other end, we have down-tilt of about 8 degrees. Moving a couple degress each way (or, setting both at 5, like RM says) gets almost no signal at all. One is WB 58DP, one is the same, but with the high-performance shroud. Any thoughts? Bad antenna on one end? Jayson WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today!
Re: [WISPA] Broadband Internet Access Deemed a Legal Right
yawn...sorry almost fell asleep about a third of the way into your response. Funny, that seems to happen a lot with your posts...yawn On one hand you try to say you want to work with property owners and then on the other you resent them for taking 50% of your revenue to date! Wow, if you're giving 50% of your revenue to them and they're not taking you to Ruth's Chris every third Friday then you have to admit your doing something very wrong! lol (1) Yes, and my point was if you got a NO even 100 times in ten years you're doing something very wrong. (2) If the property owner doesn't get it, then move on. The market will drive penetration. Well, that is if you offer a desired product. (3) If it took you ten years to figure out how to work with property owners then all I can say is better late than never, right? sigh (4) It can be a fast process given the right approach. Again, my point here. (5) Ok, the truth comes out regarding your feelings towards the evil property owner. Gee all they did was squat and pop out a multi-million dollar property just so you have a place to hang your antenna. (6) Cry me a river. Most any business has its challenges. DC is no different than hundreds if not thousands of metro areas with stiff competition. So, your solution to your lack of ability to compete is to ask Big Government to step in and make it all right for you. sigh (7) Ok, progress...and without Big Government either! Congratulations. So, you seem to think the ILECs get 100% coverage (which is far from true) for free? Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2009 10:44 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Broadband Internet Access Deemed a Legal Right Brad, First, I was being Facetious , I thought that would have been obvious. Second, Forgive the generalized steriotypic comment, as I did not mean to bundle all property managers/ owner into the same class. Many property Owners do get it, and we embrace their allegience and we work with them effectively. When I say negative things about PRoperty owners/managers, I am only referring to the percentage of clueless property mamangers that just dont get it, and that have shown to be both destructuve to themselves, their tenants, and our company's progress, because they cant open their mind to new ways of thinking. Third, I have been in this business for 10 years now, and it took a while, but I've gotten to the point, that I pretty much have it down to a system how to work with the local property managers /owners as effectively as possible. BUT it was a long hard road to get here. It wasn't so easy the first few years. Admittedly, that actually works to my advantage now because we have LOTS of good relationships with PRoperty owners, that will be very difficult for new entrants to try and replicate equally. Fourth, My strategy has always been to look from the eyes of the property owner, understand their position, and find ways to allie property owners and manager, not fight them. In otherwords, how to make them your friend. There are many ways to acommplish the goal, but again, it was NOT a fast process to change the mind set of property owners in teh early years. It took persistance, and a 5 year history of proof to lay in front of them, to compare how property managers benefited or lost dependant on whether they had embraced our wireless broadband partnerships or not. Fifth, My frustration had always stemmed from the fact that 50% of our revenue to date went to Property owner, and they generally dont do jack squat other than delay the time it takes me to install subscribers. They do control valuable roof assets, which is why they sometimes get paid by me. It makes me laugh, when I hear consumers screaming for 30-50mbps for $25 /month broadband service, when I am often forced to pay Property owners/managers way more than that. I dont really have a propblem with what Proiperty owners charge, as long as its a fair competitive market, and I can charge my end users adequate fees to recoupe my costs that I pay property managers. BUT in talking National Broadband Plan, where there is a goal to lower customer's costs and raise their speed, One of the most effective things the FCC/Feds can do is lower the cost ISP's ahve to gain access to tower assets. Sixth- It is important to understand that all markets are nto the same, DC Metro is a very ruthless market when it comes to gaining roof access. In rural America the problem may be special access costs (RBOC?), but in Metro areas, we tade that problem for property owners that all want their peice of the action. I hear stories of many WISPs that barter most of their tower colocation, with very little cost for that. Or I hear stories where people can erect their own towers for a few thousant dollars. Or bought the land to build
[WISPA] WISP BUY OUT
Full article at: http://www.reuters.com/article/pressRelease/idUS202228+19-Oct-2009+GNW200910 19 RUSHVILLE, Ind., Oct. 19, 2009 (GLOBE NEWSWIRE) -- Omnicity Corp (OTCBB:OMCY) -- the Midwest's largest fixed Wireless Internet Service Provider (WISP), continues forward with its plan to become the premier consolidator in the WISP industry by signing a Letter of Intent with the wireless division of Solutions Unlimited, Inc. (SUI) of New Castle, Indiana. Doing business as Midwest WISP, SUI represents the next of several acquisitions Omnicity plans to announce during Q4 of 2009. Greg Jarman, CEO of Omnicity, stated, We are pleased to have worked out a great deal for both Midwest WISP and Omnicity and look forward to bringing their subscribers and infrastructure into the fold. This acquisition adds another important set of assets and an ongoing local marketing presence to our eastern border. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] WISP BUY OUT
URL broke on my GUI. http://tinyurl.com/ykr9lse When I read The timing is perfect for us to turn over our fixed wireless assets to Omnicity... I saw We wanted a) out of this business or b) a lump sum of cash Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 11:27 AM, Chuck Profito cprof...@cv-access.comwrote: Full article at: http://www.reuters.com/article/pressRelease/idUS202228+19-Oct-2009+GNW200910 19 RUSHVILLE, Ind., Oct. 19, 2009 (GLOBE NEWSWIRE) -- Omnicity Corp (OTCBB:OMCY) -- the Midwest's largest fixed Wireless Internet Service Provider (WISP), continues forward with its plan to become the premier consolidator in the WISP industry by signing a Letter of Intent with the wireless division of Solutions Unlimited, Inc. (SUI) of New Castle, Indiana. Doing business as Midwest WISP, SUI represents the next of several acquisitions Omnicity plans to announce during Q4 of 2009. Greg Jarman, CEO of Omnicity, stated, We are pleased to have worked out a great deal for both Midwest WISP and Omnicity and look forward to bringing their subscribers and infrastructure into the fold. This acquisition adds another important set of assets and an ongoing local marketing presence to our eastern border. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] WISP BUY OUT
I'm sure the lump sum of cash helped the We wanted out of this business along. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 11:31 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] WISP BUY OUT URL broke on my GUI. http://tinyurl.com/ykr9lse When I read The timing is perfect for us to turn over our fixed wireless assets to Omnicity... I saw We wanted a) out of this business or b) a lump sum of cash Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 11:27 AM, Chuck Profito cprof...@cv-access.comwrote: Full article at: http://www.reuters.com/article/pressRelease/idUS202228+19-Oct-2009+GNW200910 19 RUSHVILLE, Ind., Oct. 19, 2009 (GLOBE NEWSWIRE) -- Omnicity Corp (OTCBB:OMCY) -- the Midwest's largest fixed Wireless Internet Service Provider (WISP), continues forward with its plan to become the premier consolidator in the WISP industry by signing a Letter of Intent with the wireless division of Solutions Unlimited, Inc. (SUI) of New Castle, Indiana. Doing business as Midwest WISP, SUI represents the next of several acquisitions Omnicity plans to announce during Q4 of 2009. Greg Jarman, CEO of Omnicity, stated, We are pleased to have worked out a great deal for both Midwest WISP and Omnicity and look forward to bringing their subscribers and infrastructure into the fold. This acquisition adds another important set of assets and an ongoing local marketing presence to our eastern border. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Broadband Internet Access Deemed a Legal Right
Brad, Both you and Tom have some good points but I must comment that one of my favorite things about Tom is his detailed responses. Most people, including myself leave a lot out of our replies and therefore a lot of added value is not pass on. Thanks Tom! -RickG On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 11:18 AM, Brad Belton b...@belwave.com wrote: yawn...sorry almost fell asleep about a third of the way into your response. Funny, that seems to happen a lot with your posts...yawn On one hand you try to say you want to work with property owners and then on the other you resent them for taking 50% of your revenue to date! Wow, if you're giving 50% of your revenue to them and they're not taking you to Ruth's Chris every third Friday then you have to admit your doing something very wrong! lol (1) Yes, and my point was if you got a NO even 100 times in ten years you're doing something very wrong. (2) If the property owner doesn't get it, then move on. The market will drive penetration. Well, that is if you offer a desired product. (3) If it took you ten years to figure out how to work with property owners then all I can say is better late than never, right? sigh (4) It can be a fast process given the right approach. Again, my point here. (5) Ok, the truth comes out regarding your feelings towards the evil property owner. Gee all they did was squat and pop out a multi-million dollar property just so you have a place to hang your antenna. (6) Cry me a river. Most any business has its challenges. DC is no different than hundreds if not thousands of metro areas with stiff competition. So, your solution to your lack of ability to compete is to ask Big Government to step in and make it all right for you. sigh (7) Ok, progress...and without Big Government either! Congratulations. So, you seem to think the ILECs get 100% coverage (which is far from true) for free? Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2009 10:44 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Broadband Internet Access Deemed a Legal Right Brad, First, I was being Facetious , I thought that would have been obvious. Second, Forgive the generalized steriotypic comment, as I did not mean to bundle all property managers/ owner into the same class. Many property Owners do get it, and we embrace their allegience and we work with them effectively. When I say negative things about PRoperty owners/managers, I am only referring to the percentage of clueless property mamangers that just dont get it, and that have shown to be both destructuve to themselves, their tenants, and our company's progress, because they cant open their mind to new ways of thinking. Third, I have been in this business for 10 years now, and it took a while, but I've gotten to the point, that I pretty much have it down to a system how to work with the local property managers /owners as effectively as possible. BUT it was a long hard road to get here. It wasn't so easy the first few years. Admittedly, that actually works to my advantage now because we have LOTS of good relationships with PRoperty owners, that will be very difficult for new entrants to try and replicate equally. Fourth, My strategy has always been to look from the eyes of the property owner, understand their position, and find ways to allie property owners and manager, not fight them. In otherwords, how to make them your friend. There are many ways to acommplish the goal, but again, it was NOT a fast process to change the mind set of property owners in teh early years. It took persistance, and a 5 year history of proof to lay in front of them, to compare how property managers benefited or lost dependant on whether they had embraced our wireless broadband partnerships or not. Fifth, My frustration had always stemmed from the fact that 50% of our revenue to date went to Property owner, and they generally dont do jack squat other than delay the time it takes me to install subscribers. They do control valuable roof assets, which is why they sometimes get paid by me. It makes me laugh, when I hear consumers screaming for 30-50mbps for $25 /month broadband service, when I am often forced to pay Property owners/managers way more than that. I dont really have a propblem with what Proiperty owners charge, as long as its a fair competitive market, and I can charge my end users adequate fees to recoupe my costs that I pay property managers. BUT in talking National Broadband Plan, where there is a goal to lower customer's costs and raise their speed, One of the most effective things the FCC/Feds can do is lower the cost ISP's ahve to gain access to tower assets. Sixth- It is important to understand that all markets are nto the same, DC Metro is a very ruthless market when it comes to gaining roof access. In rural
Re: [WISPA] WISP BUY OUT
um CASH On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 10:40 AM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: I'm sure the lump sum of cash helped the We wanted out of this business along. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 11:31 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] WISP BUY OUT URL broke on my GUI. http://tinyurl.com/ykr9lse When I read The timing is perfect for us to turn over our fixed wireless assets to Omnicity... I saw We wanted a) out of this business or b) a lump sum of cash Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 11:27 AM, Chuck Profito cprof...@cv-access.comwrote: Full article at: http://www.reuters.com/article/pressRelease/idUS202228+19-Oct-2009+GNW200910 19 RUSHVILLE, Ind., Oct. 19, 2009 (GLOBE NEWSWIRE) -- Omnicity Corp (OTCBB:OMCY) -- the Midwest's largest fixed Wireless Internet Service Provider (WISP), continues forward with its plan to become the premier consolidator in the WISP industry by signing a Letter of Intent with the wireless division of Solutions Unlimited, Inc. (SUI) of New Castle, Indiana. Doing business as Midwest WISP, SUI represents the next of several acquisitions Omnicity plans to announce during Q4 of 2009. Greg Jarman, CEO of Omnicity, stated, We are pleased to have worked out a great deal for both Midwest WISP and Omnicity and look forward to bringing their subscribers and infrastructure into the fold. This acquisition adds another important set of assets and an ongoing local marketing presence to our eastern border. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Marco C. Coelho Argon Technologies Inc. POB 875 Greenville, TX 75403-0875 903-455-5036 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] WISP BUY OUT
Cash always speaks louder. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marco Coelho Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 11:43 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] WISP BUY OUT um CASH On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 10:40 AM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: I'm sure the lump sum of cash helped the We wanted out of this business along. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 11:31 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] WISP BUY OUT URL broke on my GUI. http://tinyurl.com/ykr9lse When I read The timing is perfect for us to turn over our fixed wireless assets to Omnicity... I saw We wanted a) out of this business or b) a lump sum of cash Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 11:27 AM, Chuck Profito cprof...@cv-access.comwrote: Full article at: http://www.reuters.com/article/pressRelease/idUS202228+19-Oct-2009+GNW200910 19 RUSHVILLE, Ind., Oct. 19, 2009 (GLOBE NEWSWIRE) -- Omnicity Corp (OTCBB:OMCY) -- the Midwest's largest fixed Wireless Internet Service Provider (WISP), continues forward with its plan to become the premier consolidator in the WISP industry by signing a Letter of Intent with the wireless division of Solutions Unlimited, Inc. (SUI) of New Castle, Indiana. Doing business as Midwest WISP, SUI represents the next of several acquisitions Omnicity plans to announce during Q4 of 2009. Greg Jarman, CEO of Omnicity, stated, We are pleased to have worked out a great deal for both Midwest WISP and Omnicity and look forward to bringing their subscribers and infrastructure into the fold. This acquisition adds another important set of assets and an ongoing local marketing presence to our eastern border. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Marco C. Coelho Argon Technologies Inc. POB 875 Greenville, TX 75403-0875 903-455-5036 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] WISP BUY OUT
Something about this comment doesn't lead me to believe there was much of any cash exchanged...could be wrong. Michael Dinkins, President of SUI commented, The timing is perfect for us to turn over our fixed wireless assets to Omnicity and we have full confidence in their ability to deliver on their business model. We believe in their plan so much that we have chosen to move our assets into an equity investment in Omnicity. Best, Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marco Coelho Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 10:43 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] WISP BUY OUT um CASH On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 10:40 AM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: I'm sure the lump sum of cash helped the We wanted out of this business along. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 11:31 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] WISP BUY OUT URL broke on my GUI. http://tinyurl.com/ykr9lse When I read The timing is perfect for us to turn over our fixed wireless assets to Omnicity... I saw We wanted a) out of this business or b) a lump sum of cash Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 11:27 AM, Chuck Profito cprof...@cv-access.comwrote: Full article at: http://www.reuters.com/article/pressRelease/idUS202228+19-Oct-2009+GNW200910 19 RUSHVILLE, Ind., Oct. 19, 2009 (GLOBE NEWSWIRE) -- Omnicity Corp (OTCBB:OMCY) -- the Midwest's largest fixed Wireless Internet Service Provider (WISP), continues forward with its plan to become the premier consolidator in the WISP industry by signing a Letter of Intent with the wireless division of Solutions Unlimited, Inc. (SUI) of New Castle, Indiana. Doing business as Midwest WISP, SUI represents the next of several acquisitions Omnicity plans to announce during Q4 of 2009. Greg Jarman, CEO of Omnicity, stated, We are pleased to have worked out a great deal for both Midwest WISP and Omnicity and look forward to bringing their subscribers and infrastructure into the fold. This acquisition adds another important set of assets and an ongoing local marketing presence to our eastern border. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Marco C. Coelho Argon Technologies Inc. POB 875 Greenville, TX 75403-0875 903-455-5036 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Missouri Catching it for Broadband Stimulus Plan
Of course it comes from the Missouri Telecommunications Industry Association, but IMHO they are right! Last-mile demand should be first concern for broadband RICHARD TELTHORST GUEST COLUMNIST As hopeful applicants across the country scramble to take advantage of more than $7 billion in federal stimulus funds to expand the reach of the Internet, policymakers in Missouri and Washington need to watch carefully how the money will be spent. Taking a ready, fire, aim approach without good planning could waste taxpayer dollars without bringing better Internet access. The federal stimulus program to improve high-speed Internet service (known as broadband) has attracted more than 2,200 applicants looking for nearly $28 billion - more than four times the amount allocated by Congress. In Missouri, more than 60 applicants have filed plans to spend more than $1 billion on projects across the state. Among those plans is an ambitious idea to build 2,500 miles of additional middle-mile broadband network. That's the infrastructure pipeline for delivering Internet access, but it doesn't include the connections directly to homes and small businesses, known as the last mile. This plan would also give Missouri access to a portion of the network to carry government Internet traffic. State government's partnership in this private-sector project could potentially hinder additional fiber deployment by telecommunications providers in the state. Local Internet providers would be harmed if the new network were used to provide access to providers in competition with others or to bypass private providers and serve their customers directly. Dozens of telecommunications companies have invested millions of dollars in private capital to build a robust broadband network reaching all corners of the state. More private investment is pending to expand this network even further. But using a state network to undercut or overbuild private Internet providers or to subsidize the operations of particular providers would reduce the incentives that the private sector has to expand services. It's not the way public money should be spent - especially money that is in short supply given the number of competing projects. A recent industry study points out that the middle mile networks built in Missouri by telecommunications providers, cable companies, electric cooperatives and others have an extensive reach. A more detailed study of this network in Missouri should be undertaken before federal funds are invested. State government, using federal stimulus funds, should lead this mapping effort. Further network deployment to extend the last mile of Internet connections to more distant customers is driven by demand. Demand depends on customers understanding the value of a broadband connection and having a computer to connect to the Internet. Federal stimulus money is also available to finance projects to establish public computing centers, educate and train people in computer skills, and help create the demand needed for further private-sector investment. These projects may not garner as much media attention as do shovel-ready plans to plow more fiber across the state, but they are critical in bringing more broadband access to Missouri. State policymakers should turn their attention to these programs that build the business case for extending the last mile of the Internet to all Missourians. Richard Telthorst is president and CEO of the Missouri Telecommunications Industry Association. http://www.kansascity.com/business/story/1517715.html#none http://www.kansascity.com/business/story/1517715.html They are right, we found fiber where MO says there is none. Victoria Proffer www.StLouisBroadband.com 314-974-5600 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] WISP BUY OUT
Yeah, cash for stock. Faith that they will not be screwed. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Brad Belton Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 11:53 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] WISP BUY OUT Something about this comment doesn't lead me to believe there was much of any cash exchanged...could be wrong. Michael Dinkins, President of SUI commented, The timing is perfect for us to turn over our fixed wireless assets to Omnicity and we have full confidence in their ability to deliver on their business model. We believe in their plan so much that we have chosen to move our assets into an equity investment in Omnicity. Best, Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marco Coelho Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 10:43 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] WISP BUY OUT um CASH On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 10:40 AM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: I'm sure the lump sum of cash helped the We wanted out of this business along. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 11:31 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] WISP BUY OUT URL broke on my GUI. http://tinyurl.com/ykr9lse When I read The timing is perfect for us to turn over our fixed wireless assets to Omnicity... I saw We wanted a) out of this business or b) a lump sum of cash Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 11:27 AM, Chuck Profito cprof...@cv-access.comwrote: Full article at: http://www.reuters.com/article/pressRelease/idUS202228+19-Oct-2009+GNW200910 19 RUSHVILLE, Ind., Oct. 19, 2009 (GLOBE NEWSWIRE) -- Omnicity Corp (OTCBB:OMCY) -- the Midwest's largest fixed Wireless Internet Service Provider (WISP), continues forward with its plan to become the premier consolidator in the WISP industry by signing a Letter of Intent with the wireless division of Solutions Unlimited, Inc. (SUI) of New Castle, Indiana. Doing business as Midwest WISP, SUI represents the next of several acquisitions Omnicity plans to announce during Q4 of 2009. Greg Jarman, CEO of Omnicity, stated, We are pleased to have worked out a great deal for both Midwest WISP and Omnicity and look forward to bringing their subscribers and infrastructure into the fold. This acquisition adds another important set of assets and an ongoing local marketing presence to our eastern border. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Marco C. Coelho Argon Technologies Inc. POB 875 Greenville, TX 75403-0875 903-455-5036 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join
Re: [WISPA] WISP BUY OUT
He said he turned over the company assets. What else could be exchanged in return for all of his assets? This looks like Poli-talk: We believe in their plan so much that we have chosen to move our assets into an equity investment in Omnicity. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 11:52 AM, Brad Belton b...@belwave.com wrote: Something about this comment doesn't lead me to believe there was much of any cash exchanged...could be wrong. Michael Dinkins, President of SUI commented, The timing is perfect for us to turn over our fixed wireless assets to Omnicity and we have full confidence in their ability to deliver on their business model. We believe in their plan so much that we have chosen to move our assets into an equity investment in Omnicity. Best, Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marco Coelho Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 10:43 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] WISP BUY OUT um CASH On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 10:40 AM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: I'm sure the lump sum of cash helped the We wanted out of this business along. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 11:31 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] WISP BUY OUT URL broke on my GUI. http://tinyurl.com/ykr9lse When I read The timing is perfect for us to turn over our fixed wireless assets to Omnicity... I saw We wanted a) out of this business or b) a lump sum of cash Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 11:27 AM, Chuck Profito cprof...@cv-access.comwrote: Full article at: http://www.reuters.com/article/pressRelease/idUS202228+19-Oct-2009+GNW200910 19 RUSHVILLE, Ind., Oct. 19, 2009 (GLOBE NEWSWIRE) -- Omnicity Corp (OTCBB:OMCY) -- the Midwest's largest fixed Wireless Internet Service Provider (WISP), continues forward with its plan to become the premier consolidator in the WISP industry by signing a Letter of Intent with the wireless division of Solutions Unlimited, Inc. (SUI) of New Castle, Indiana. Doing business as Midwest WISP, SUI represents the next of several acquisitions Omnicity plans to announce during Q4 of 2009. Greg Jarman, CEO of Omnicity, stated, We are pleased to have worked out a great deal for both Midwest WISP and Omnicity and look forward to bringing their subscribers and infrastructure into the fold. This acquisition adds another important set of assets and an ongoing local marketing presence to our eastern border. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Marco C. Coelho Argon Technologies Inc. POB 875 Greenville, TX 75403-0875 903-455-5036 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] [Indiana] Sales Tax
Without conducting a thorough analysis, I did find a few interesting notes in 47 U.S.C.S. 151: 47 U.S.C.S. § 151 contains a moratorium on taxes generally. However the statute contains a long list of exclusions. For instance, a state may tax if the state was already taxing internet services prior to the enactment Oct. 21, 1998. States that imposed a sales tax on internet service prior to that date can still charge the tax. Likewise, taxes enacted by state statute prior to November of 2003 and imposed upon internet services are grandfathered despite the moratorium. Telecommunications taxes appear to be subject to a loophole and can be imposed (although the statute is silent as to what qualifies as telecommunications). But perhaps most interesting is subsection (e) which allows a state to charge taxes to any internet provider who fails to offer customer (either for a fee or at no charge) screening software that is designed to permit the customer to limit access to material on the Internet that is harmful to minors. All WISPs would be wise to start offering some sort of net nanny type software so that the states dont jump on the opportunity to tax. Regards, Larry Yunker II, Esq. Barkan Robon, Ltd. _ From: indiana-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:indiana-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Steve Barnes Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 11:46 AM To: Indiana WISP Discussion Subject: [Indiana] Sales Tax Here is the info I finally got from the state. Steve Barnes Manager PCS-WIN http://www.pcswin.com/ RC-WiFi http://www.rcwifi.com/ Wireless Internet Service Mr. Barnes: First, I apologize for the delay in responding to your e-mail. With regard to wireless Internet services, Indiana is precluded from taxing such services for sales tax under 47 U.S.C. s. 151 note. (the Internet Tax Freedom Act). Indiana did not enforce sales tax on purely Internet services prior to the enactment of this act; thus, Indiana is now precluded from taxing Internet services until at least 2014. If you have any questions, please feel free to contact me. Thank you, Jeff Raney Legal Division Indiana Department of Revenue --- From: Steve Barnes[SMTP:st...@pcswin.com] Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 3:01:34 PM To: DOR Webmaster Subject: AFSS - Legal Division Auto forwarded by a Rule Your Name: Steve Barnes Email Address: st...@pcswin.com Subject: Legal Division Your Comments: I am a small Wireless Internet Service Provider in Randolph CountyIndiana. I was told that due to this being a Internet Service and nottelephone or other communication that salestax does not need to becollected. I request a WRITTEN OPINION. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] WISP BUY OUT
Omnicity stock of course. Looks like a sound investment...tongue-in-cheek http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=OMCY.OB Deals like these typically occur due to the seller wanting out...sometimes at any cost. Just an observation, but it appears Midwest was tired of the WISP portion of the business and wanted to focus on their computer/network service storefront. Best, Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 10:57 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] WISP BUY OUT He said he turned over the company assets. What else could be exchanged in return for all of his assets? This looks like Poli-talk: We believe in their plan so much that we have chosen to move our assets into an equity investment in Omnicity. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 11:52 AM, Brad Belton b...@belwave.com wrote: Something about this comment doesn't lead me to believe there was much of any cash exchanged...could be wrong. Michael Dinkins, President of SUI commented, The timing is perfect for us to turn over our fixed wireless assets to Omnicity and we have full confidence in their ability to deliver on their business model. We believe in their plan so much that we have chosen to move our assets into an equity investment in Omnicity. Best, Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marco Coelho Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 10:43 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] WISP BUY OUT um CASH On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 10:40 AM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: I'm sure the lump sum of cash helped the We wanted out of this business along. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 11:31 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] WISP BUY OUT URL broke on my GUI. http://tinyurl.com/ykr9lse When I read The timing is perfect for us to turn over our fixed wireless assets to Omnicity... I saw We wanted a) out of this business or b) a lump sum of cash Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 11:27 AM, Chuck Profito cprof...@cv-access.comwrote: Full article at: http://www.reuters.com/article/pressRelease/idUS202228+19-Oct-2009+GNW200910 19 RUSHVILLE, Ind., Oct. 19, 2009 (GLOBE NEWSWIRE) -- Omnicity Corp (OTCBB:OMCY) -- the Midwest's largest fixed Wireless Internet Service Provider (WISP), continues forward with its plan to become the premier consolidator in the WISP industry by signing a Letter of Intent with the wireless division of Solutions Unlimited, Inc. (SUI) of New Castle, Indiana. Doing business as Midwest WISP, SUI represents the next of several acquisitions Omnicity plans to announce during Q4 of 2009. Greg Jarman, CEO of Omnicity, stated, We are pleased to have worked out a great deal for both Midwest WISP and Omnicity and look forward to bringing their subscribers and infrastructure into the fold. This acquisition adds another important set of assets and an ongoing local marketing presence to our eastern border. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives:
[WISPA] Exhalt vs. Moto
We've got lots of the Moto PTP600 radios in our network. They have been a solid reliable performer. I'm looking at the Exhalt EX-5r-c GigE Radios... They are spec'd at 400 Mb/s TDD or 200 in each direction. I'm looking for opinions from those who have deployed these. Marco -- Marco C. Coelho Argon Technologies Inc. POB 875 Greenville, TX 75403-0875 903-455-5036 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Exhalt vs. Moto
Solid reliable radio. We have deployed over 50 links with a few failures early on (first generation) but are solid otherwise And DFS works great. I have not had a DFS hit yet. -B- Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Marco Coelho coelh...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 11:59:28 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Exhalt vs. Moto We've got lots of the Moto PTP600 radios in our network. They have been a solid reliable performer. I'm looking at the Exhalt EX-5r-c GigE Radios... They are spec'd at 400 Mb/s TDD or 200 in each direction. I'm looking for opinions from those who have deployed these. Marco -- Marco C. Coelho Argon Technologies Inc. POB 875 Greenville, TX 75403-0875 903-455-5036 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] WISP BUY OUT
If you post any URLs make sure you start the url with a and end it with an like: http://www.reuters.com/article/pressRelease/idUS202228+19-Oct-2009+GNW20091019 The makes GUIs realize that the URL is one line. :) ryan On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 8:30 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: URL broke on my GUI. http://tinyurl.com/ykr9lse When I read The timing is perfect for us to turn over our fixed wireless assets to Omnicity... I saw We wanted a) out of this business or b) a lump sum of cash Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 11:27 AM, Chuck Profito cprof...@cv-access.comwrote: Full article at: http://www.reuters.com/article/pressRelease/idUS202228+19-Oct-2009+GNW200910 19 RUSHVILLE, Ind., Oct. 19, 2009 (GLOBE NEWSWIRE) -- Omnicity Corp (OTCBB:OMCY) -- the Midwest's largest fixed Wireless Internet Service Provider (WISP), continues forward with its plan to become the premier consolidator in the WISP industry by signing a Letter of Intent with the wireless division of Solutions Unlimited, Inc. (SUI) of New Castle, Indiana. Doing business as Midwest WISP, SUI represents the next of several acquisitions Omnicity plans to announce during Q4 of 2009. Greg Jarman, CEO of Omnicity, stated, We are pleased to have worked out a great deal for both Midwest WISP and Omnicity and look forward to bringing their subscribers and infrastructure into the fold. This acquisition adds another important set of assets and an ongoing local marketing presence to our eastern border. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] WISP BUY OUT
Midwest's largest WISP, eh? What evidence do they have? JAG has over 50k, there's a few in the northern Illinois area between 5k and 10k subs. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Chuck Profito cprof...@cv-access.com Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 10:27 AM To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] WISP BUY OUT Full article at: http://www.reuters.com/article/pressRelease/idUS202228+19-Oct-2009+GNW200910 19 RUSHVILLE, Ind., Oct. 19, 2009 (GLOBE NEWSWIRE) -- Omnicity Corp (OTCBB:OMCY) -- the Midwest's largest fixed Wireless Internet Service Provider (WISP), continues forward with its plan to become the premier consolidator in the WISP industry by signing a Letter of Intent with the wireless division of Solutions Unlimited, Inc. (SUI) of New Castle, Indiana. Doing business as Midwest WISP, SUI represents the next of several acquisitions Omnicity plans to announce during Q4 of 2009. Greg Jarman, CEO of Omnicity, stated, We are pleased to have worked out a great deal for both Midwest WISP and Omnicity and look forward to bringing their subscribers and infrastructure into the fold. This acquisition adds another important set of assets and an ongoing local marketing presence to our eastern border. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] WISP BUY OUT
I know some in Indiana alone that were/are of the same size. Regards, Chuck Hogg Shelby Broadband 502-722-9292 ch...@shelbybb.com http://www.shelbybb.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 12:54 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] WISP BUY OUT Midwest's largest WISP, eh? What evidence do they have? JAG has over 50k, there's a few in the northern Illinois area between 5k and 10k subs. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Chuck Profito cprof...@cv-access.com Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 10:27 AM To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] WISP BUY OUT Full article at: http://www.reuters.com/article/pressRelease/idUS202228+19-Oct-2009+GNW20 0910 19 RUSHVILLE, Ind., Oct. 19, 2009 (GLOBE NEWSWIRE) -- Omnicity Corp (OTCBB:OMCY) -- the Midwest's largest fixed Wireless Internet Service Provider (WISP), continues forward with its plan to become the premier consolidator in the WISP industry by signing a Letter of Intent with the wireless division of Solutions Unlimited, Inc. (SUI) of New Castle, Indiana. Doing business as Midwest WISP, SUI represents the next of several acquisitions Omnicity plans to announce during Q4 of 2009. Greg Jarman, CEO of Omnicity, stated, We are pleased to have worked out a great deal for both Midwest WISP and Omnicity and look forward to bringing their subscribers and infrastructure into the fold. This acquisition adds another important set of assets and an ongoing local marketing presence to our eastern border. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] WISP BUY OUT
Thank you Ryan.. I love this list, I'm always learning. Thanks -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Ryan Spott Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 10:19 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] WISP BUY OUT If you post any URLs make sure you start the url with a and end it with an like: http://www.reuters.com/article/pressRelease/idUS202228+19-Oct-2009+GNW20091 019 The makes GUIs realize that the URL is one line. :) ryan On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 8:30 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: URL broke on my GUI. http://tinyurl.com/ykr9lse When I read The timing is perfect for us to turn over our fixed wireless assets to Omnicity... I saw We wanted a) out of this business or b) a lump sum of cash Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 11:27 AM, Chuck Profito cprof...@cv-access.comwrote: Full article at: http://www.reuters.com/article/pressRelease/idUS202228+19-Oct-2009+GNW200910 19 RUSHVILLE, Ind., Oct. 19, 2009 (GLOBE NEWSWIRE) -- Omnicity Corp (OTCBB:OMCY) -- the Midwest's largest fixed Wireless Internet Service Provider (WISP), continues forward with its plan to become the premier consolidator in the WISP industry by signing a Letter of Intent with the wireless division of Solutions Unlimited, Inc. (SUI) of New Castle, Indiana. Doing business as Midwest WISP, SUI represents the next of several acquisitions Omnicity plans to announce during Q4 of 2009. Greg Jarman, CEO of Omnicity, stated, We are pleased to have worked out a great deal for both Midwest WISP and Omnicity and look forward to bringing their subscribers and infrastructure into the fold. This acquisition adds another important set of assets and an ongoing local marketing presence to our eastern border. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] OT: Used Tower Pricing.
What is a good price to give for a standard Rohn SSV tower, 100' with sections 7N, 6N, 5N, 4N, and 3WN in real good shape, each section still assembled, already down and ready for loading. I priced it new at around $8500. I have looked at www.usedtowers.com, but those are way higher than what I got this one for. I already won it at auction, but just checking to make sure I didn't screw up. Do any of you know where to find used towers besides qth.com, eham.net, ebay, and usedtowers.com? I have a few local places, but I am looking to expand my searches beyond those mentioned and local. TIA, Scottie Wireless High Speed Broadband service from Info-Ed, Inc. as low as $30.00/mth. Check out www.info-ed.com/wireless.html for information. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] OT: Used Tower Pricing.
Maybe $2-2.5K Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Scottie Arnett sarn...@info-ed.com Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 20:24:45 To: wireless@wispa.org Cc: motoro...@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] OT: Used Tower Pricing. What is a good price to give for a standard Rohn SSV tower, 100' with sections 7N, 6N, 5N, 4N, and 3WN in real good shape, each section still assembled, already down and ready for loading. I priced it new at around $8500. I have looked at www.usedtowers.com, but those are way higher than what I got this one for. I already won it at auction, but just checking to make sure I didn't screw up. Do any of you know where to find used towers besides qth.com, eham.net, ebay, and usedtowers.com? I have a few local places, but I am looking to expand my searches beyond those mentioned and local. TIA, Scottie Wireless High Speed Broadband service from Info-Ed, Inc. as low as $30.00/mth. Check out www.info-ed.com/wireless.html for information. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] WISP BUY OUT
Wonder when the last time was Omnicity actually completed a deal. Lots of LOI I am aware of. Not many closures. They even announced the acquisition of company they were not in active negotiations with. Robert West wrote: Yeah, cash for stock. Faith that they will not be screwed. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Brad Belton Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 11:53 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] WISP BUY OUT Something about this comment doesn't lead me to believe there was much of any cash exchanged...could be wrong. Michael Dinkins, President of SUI commented, The timing is perfect for us to turn over our fixed wireless assets to Omnicity and we have full confidence in their ability to deliver on their business model. We believe in their plan so much that we have chosen to move our assets into an equity investment in Omnicity. Best, Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marco Coelho Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 10:43 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] WISP BUY OUT um CASH On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 10:40 AM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: I'm sure the lump sum of cash helped the We wanted out of this business along. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 11:31 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] WISP BUY OUT URL broke on my GUI. http://tinyurl.com/ykr9lse When I read The timing is perfect for us to turn over our fixed wireless assets to Omnicity... I saw We wanted a) out of this business or b) a lump sum of cash Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 11:27 AM, Chuck Profito cprof...@cv-access.comwrote: Full article at: http://www.reuters.com/article/pressRelease/idUS202228+19-Oct-2009+GNW200910 19 RUSHVILLE, Ind., Oct. 19, 2009 (GLOBE NEWSWIRE) -- Omnicity Corp (OTCBB:OMCY) -- the Midwest's largest fixed Wireless Internet Service Provider (WISP), continues forward with its plan to become the premier consolidator in the WISP industry by signing a Letter of Intent with the wireless division of Solutions Unlimited, Inc. (SUI) of New Castle, Indiana. Doing business as Midwest WISP, SUI represents the next of several acquisitions Omnicity plans to announce during Q4 of 2009. Greg Jarman, CEO of Omnicity, stated, We are pleased to have worked out a great deal for both Midwest WISP and Omnicity and look forward to bringing their subscribers and infrastructure into the fold. This acquisition adds another important set of assets and an ongoing local marketing presence to our eastern border. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Scott Reed Sr. Systems Engineer GAB Midwest 1-800-363-1544 x4000 Cell: 260-273-7239 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] OT: Used Tower Pricing.
The 7N, 6N and 5N will stack nicely if you take them apart and leave a diagonal from each side attached. A long trailer can move it then. I don't think you can easily move a 5 or 6 and certainly not a 7 put entirely together. They are too wide to sit on a trailer properly. Down, in good shape, $2500 or so would be a fair price. A case of Rustoleum cold galvanized and it will look like new. So, if you want to brag (or take your knots) what did you pay? Mike At 08:24 PM 10/20/2009, you wrote: What is a good price to give for a standard Rohn SSV tower, 100' with sections 7N, 6N, 5N, 4N, and 3WN in real good shape, each section still assembled, already down and ready for loading. I priced it new at around $8500. I have looked at www.usedtowers.com, but those are way higher than what I got this one for. I already won it at auction, but just checking to make sure I didn't screw up. Do any of you know where to find used towers besides qth.com, eham.net, ebay, and usedtowers.com? I have a few local places, but I am looking to expand my searches beyond those mentioned and local. TIA, Scottie Wireless High Speed Broadband service from Info-Ed, Inc. as low as $30.00/mth. Check out www.info-ed.com/wireless.html for information. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] WISP BUY OUT
Reminds me of a guy that put up a "For Sale or Build to Suit" sign on a
piece of land next to the piece he owned. He didn't actually own the
land, but was trying to pull a fast one... the sign lasted about two
weeks before it was ripped down.
Anyone can write LOI... they mean absolutely nothing. I'm not even sure
what the point is...
Travis
Microserv
Scott Reed wrote:
Wonder when the last time was Omnicity actually completed a deal. Lots
of LOI I am aware of. Not many closures.
They even announced the acquisition of company they were not in active
negotiations with.
Robert West wrote:
Yeah, cash for stock. Faith that they will not be screwed.
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Brad Belton
Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 11:53 AM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] WISP BUY OUT
Something about this comment doesn't lead me to believe there was much of
any cash exchanged...could be wrong.
Michael Dinkins, President of SUI commented, "The timing is perfect for us
to turn over our fixed wireless assets to Omnicity and we have full
confidence in their ability to deliver on their business model. We believe
in their plan so much that we have chosen to move our assets into an equity
investment in Omnicity."
Best,
Brad
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Marco Coelho
Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 10:43 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] WISP BUY OUT
um CASH
On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 10:40 AM, Robert West
robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote:
I'm sure the lump sum of cash helped the "We wanted out of this business"
along.
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 11:31 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] WISP BUY OUT
URL broke on my GUI.
http://tinyurl.com/ykr9lse
When I read
"The timing is perfect for us to turn over our fixed wireless assets to
Omnicity..."
I saw
We wanted a) out of this business or b) a lump sum of cash
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
"When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
improbable, must be the truth."
--- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle
On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 11:27 AM, Chuck Profito
cprof...@cv-access.comwrote:
Full article at:
http://www.reuters.com/article/pressRelease/idUS202228+19-Oct-2009+GNW200910
19
RUSHVILLE, Ind., Oct. 19, 2009 (GLOBE NEWSWIRE) -- Omnicity Corp
(OTCBB:OMCY) --
the Midwest's largest fixed Wireless Internet Service Provider (WISP),
continues
forward with its plan to become the premier consolidator in the WISP
industry by
signing a Letter of Intent with the wireless division of Solutions
Unlimited,
Inc. ("SUI") of New Castle, Indiana. Doing business as "Midwest WISP",
SUI
represents the next of several acquisitions Omnicity plans to announce
during Q4
of 2009. Greg Jarman, CEO of Omnicity, stated, "We are pleased to have
worked
out a great deal for both Midwest WISP and Omnicity and look forward to
bringing
their subscribers and infrastructure into the fold. This acquisition adds
another important set of assets and an ongoing local marketing presence
to
our
eastern border."
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[WISPA] Keyon Communications
We were solicited for purchase by this company today. Anyone have anything to share about them? Mark WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Keyon Communications
If they will offer you cash (not stock), and it's worth your while, then money is money. :) I think the company itself is in trouble. Their big plan 3 years ago was to do a public offering just like everyone else... so they did it, and got a whole $12 million... not really even worth the time. They have had service in my area for 3+ years... but they have very few customers. Their network (at least in this area) has some major problems. I think the company itself is very, very top heavy. Travis Microserv Mark McElvy wrote: We were solicited for purchase by this company today. Anyone have anything to share about them? Mark WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Keyon Communications
Hello, Top heavy? Where else would you send the $12 million. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 10:57 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Keyon Communications If they will offer you cash (not stock), and it's worth your while, then money is money. :) I think the company itself is in trouble. Their big plan 3 years ago was to do a public offering just like everyone else... so they did it, and got a whole $12 million... not really even worth the time. They have had service in my area for 3+ years... but they have very few customers. Their network (at least in this area) has some major problems. I think the company itself is very, very top heavy. Travis Microserv Mark McElvy wrote: We were solicited for purchase by this company today. Anyone have anything to share about them? Mark WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
