Re: [WISPA] Shopping for bandwidth

2010-10-04 Thread Roger Howard
Thanks for your replies everyone, there's good feedback in this thread. Regarding Faisal's comment: "Additionally, if you are paying in the range of $1500 to $3000, then it would also be worth-while to consider purchasing a 'Gig E' transport to a Carrier Neutral Faclility ( eg. 56 Marrietta in AT

[WISPA] MT RB toughness?

2010-10-04 Thread Greg Ihnen
Lightning took out my RB-750 today. This is the second one I lost to lightning. Are the RB-450's any better made or more resistant to lightning? I have protection, shielded ethernet cable and grounding but the gear is mounted up on a metal roof that is not grounded and when there's a nearby str

Re: [WISPA] Shopping for bandwidth

2010-10-04 Thread Gino Villarini
We got $3k from XO and $1k for Congent, both 1Gbps capacity @ NAP of the americas Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Chuck Hogg Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 8:

Re: [WISPA] Shopping for bandwidth

2010-10-04 Thread Chuck Hogg
That's high for some, and low for others. Depends on the market, locale, time of year, term of contract, how it's delivered, and what tier the provider is. Like you, I also can't disclose because of NDA, but that pricing is roughly what we pay. Regards, Chuck On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 6:28 PM, F

Re: [WISPA] Shopping for bandwidth

2010-10-04 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
For those of you who are purchasing circuits from AT&T, you should consider joining FISPA, and getting AT&T discounted pricing thru the FISPA contracts. Most of AT&T products priced thru FISPA are at some of the steepest discounts (especially in the old BellSouth Territories). Additionally, if

Re: [WISPA] Shopping for bandwidth

2010-10-04 Thread Forbes Mercy
I can't disclose because of NDA agreements what we pay but you should pay $15-$25 a meg. On 10/4/2010 2:16 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: I recently got a $2900 100 meg quote from an AT&T reseller. In today's world (depending on your target audience), a Level 3 or Cogent would be better than MCI or

Re: [WISPA] Shopping for bandwidth

2010-10-04 Thread Chuck Hogg
Just tell them you signed an NDA and cannot reveal pricing...but that you can say, it's cheaper than yours...that usually works...tell them to come back a few times and then that usually knocks off some $$$. Our last quote for BW dropped over $800/mth from the original offer. Regards, Chuck On

Re: [WISPA] Shopping for bandwidth

2010-10-04 Thread Mike Hammett
I recently got a $2900 100 meg quote from an AT&T reseller. In today's world (depending on your target audience), a Level 3 or Cogent would be better than MCI or AT&T. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 10/4/2010 3:30 PM, Nick Olsen wrote: To answer

Re: [WISPA] Shopping for bandwidth

2010-10-04 Thread Fred Goldstein
At 10/4/2010 03:31 PM, Roger Howard wrote: >What do you do when you ask for a quote for bandwidth, and the person >asks what you are paying right now. Do you tell them, and if you do, >won't they just undercut it by a little just to get your business? >Seems like a strange way of doing business to

Re: [WISPA] Shopping for bandwidth

2010-10-04 Thread Nick Olsen
To answer the OP, No, Don't tell them what you pay, And if you do. Tell them something much lower then what you really pay. Cogent is cheap (watch for there half price sales...) I've seen 100Mb/s from them as low as like $300 Everyone else hates cogent. I had a Verizon rep quote me something l

Re: [WISPA] Brute Force Attack on Mikrotik Gateway

2010-10-04 Thread Chris Hudson
I have the whole 59.0.0.0/8 and 61.0.0.0/8 input chain dropped on my core router... Chris - Original Message - From: Robert West To: 'WISPA General List' Sent: Friday, October 01, 2010 4:57 PM Subject: [WISPA] Brute Force Attack on Mikrotik Gateway Just had to deal with a

Re: [WISPA] Shopping for bandwidth

2010-10-04 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
That question is a quiet normal one for folks to ask, there isn't any particular motivation behind this. Because IP Bandwidth is such a commodity product, a lot of folks will ask you such questions in order to determine what sort of product / package you are looking for. Many times they will as

Re: [WISPA] Shopping for bandwidth

2010-10-04 Thread Matt Jenkins
I can get Cogent for $600 per month for 100/100 meg! Just have to BH it 44 miles.. On 10/04/2010 12:55 PM, support wrote: Tell them you pay $200 per month for A 50/50 meg link can you beat that? :) On 10/4/2010 2:46 PM, Cameron Kilton wrote: I just laugh at them and say,

Re: [WISPA] Shopping for bandwidth

2010-10-04 Thread support
Tell them you pay $200 per month for A 50/50 meg link can you beat that? :) On 10/4/2010 2:46 PM, Cameron Kilton wrote: > I just laugh at them and say, wouldn't you like to know > > > Thanks, > Cameron Kilton > > > On 10/4/2010 3:31 PM, Roger Howard wrote: >> What do you do when you ask for a q

Re: [WISPA] Shopping for bandwidth

2010-10-04 Thread Cameron Kilton
I just laugh at them and say, wouldn't you like to know Thanks, Cameron Kilton On 10/4/2010 3:31 PM, Roger Howard wrote: > What do you do when you ask for a quote for bandwidth, and the person > asks what you are paying right now. Do you tell them, and if you do, > won't they just undercut it b

Re: [WISPA] Shopping for bandwidth

2010-10-04 Thread Jason Hensley
I just tell them that price is part of the reason that we're looking and that we are getting prices from multiple vendors but that I'm not willing to share what I'm paying right now. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Rog

Re: [WISPA] Shopping for bandwidth

2010-10-04 Thread Charles N Wyble
On 10/04/2010 12:31 PM, Roger Howard wrote: > What do you do when you ask for a quote for bandwidth, and the person > asks what you are paying right now. Hmmm. I've never been asked that. Usually they give me a rough quote right on the phone for 1/2/5/7 year contract length. Usually I'll say s

[WISPA] Shopping for bandwidth

2010-10-04 Thread Roger Howard
What do you do when you ask for a quote for bandwidth, and the person asks what you are paying right now. Do you tell them, and if you do, won't they just undercut it by a little just to get your business? Seems like a strange way of doing business to ask what you're paying for something before gi

[WISPA] Bye, for now

2010-10-04 Thread Patrick Leary
Hello All, I wanted to drop a post to the community that effective this week, I will no longer be with Aperto Networks/Tranzeo. Should you have any commercial questions for Aperto, direct them to Jeff Piper at jpi...@apertonet.com. I'll be looking for new ways to contribute to the community, whic

Re: [WISPA] VoIP Providers

2010-10-04 Thread Robert West
Hit. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Layne Sisk Sent: Sunday, October 03, 2010 8:31 PM To: WISPA General List; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] VoIP Providers I can put you in touch with a good business provider. Hit me offlist