[WISPA] Every email and website to be stored
Every email, phone call and website visit is to be recorded and stored after the Coalition Government revived controversial Big Brother snooping plans. It will allow security services and the police to spy on the activities of every Briton who uses a phone or the internet. Moves to make every communications provider store details for at least a year will be unveiled later this year sparking fresh fears over a return of the surveillance state,,, http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/news/8075563/Every-email-and-website-to-be-stored.html -- Jack Unger - President, Ask-Wi.Com, Inc. Author - Deploying License-Free Wireless Wide-Area Networks Serving the Broadband Wireless, Networking and Telecom Communities since 1993 www.ask-wi.com 818-227-4220 jun...@ask-wi.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Every email and website to be stored
URL is broken the irony is thick. Lol. Jack Unger jun...@ask-wi.com wrote: Every email, phone call and website visit is to be recorded and stored after the Coalition Government revived controversial Big Brother snooping plans. It will allow security services and the police to spy on the activities of every Briton who uses a phone or the internet. Moves to make every communications provider store details for at least a year will be unveiled later this year sparking fresh fears over a return of the surveillance state,,, http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/news/8075563/Every-email-and-website-to-be-stored.html -- Jack Unger - President, Ask-Wi.Com, Inc. Author - Deploying License-Free Wireless Wide-Area Networks Serving the Broadband Wireless, Networking and Telecom Communities since 1993 www.ask-wi.com 818-227-4220 jun...@ask-wi.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Remote Controlled Drone
Let us all know how that works out for you. Key things I noticed when I read the FAQ, 1. the range will be greater if the AR drone is used in wide-open space with few Wi-Fi waves. Now, I am not a great technical wizard, but won't the majority of users from the WISPA mailing list have some of those pesky Wi-Fi waves kicking around? 2. the AR.Drone can maintain STABLE FLIGHT (emphasis added by me) at a height of up to 6 meters / 20 feet. Now, Stable flight would be kind of important when doing anything other than using it as a fun toy I would imagine. I don't see many water tanks under 20 feet - and if I did I carry a ladder. All I was trying to do was get a bit more info out there on the thing, it looks like a GREAT toy, and I am thinking about ordering one just to play around with, but to expect it to be a dependable tool in your toolbox? Buyer beware. They put plenty of warnings in the information on the manufacturers web page, (which is what I posted) so don't expect STABLE FLIGHT more than that 20 feet up, and be pleasently surprised if you get more than the 20 feet. What is the range of the AR.Drone? The range of the AR.Drone depends on the environment in which it is being used: the range will be greater if the AR.Drone is used in a wide-open space with few Wi-Fi waves. For information, the average range is 50 meters / 160 feet. How high can the AR.Drone fly? Thanks to its many sensors, the AR.Drone can maintain stable flight at a height of up to 6 meters / 20 feet. Since the altitude at which the AR.Drone can fly depends exclusively on the Wi-Fi range, it can fly up to a height of 50 meters / 160 feet. The Altitude limited option in the AR.Drone's settings can be adjusted to restrict the height to 3 meters / 10 feet. Don't take your organs to heaven, heaven knows we need them down here! Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. - Original Message - From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 11:03 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Remote Controlled Drone Most water tanks are less than 160', so it would work fine for that. On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 10:23 PM, Blake Bowers bbow...@mozarks.com wrote: http://ardrone.parrot.com/parrot-ar-drone/uk/support/questions-answers Going to have to be a short tower. Don't take your organs to heaven, heaven knows we need them down here! Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. - Original Message - From: John Thomas jtho...@quarnet.com To: wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 7:21 PM Subject: [WISPA] Remote Controlled Drone I have no idea if this would be on any use to anyone, but it seems like it might save a tower climb somewhere. http://www.brookstone.com/ar-drone-quadricopter.html?bkiid=hmpg|hdr|652479p You can remote control it with an iPhone and it has a camera. John WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Verizon LTE
Just got this from Verizon as a link on a advertisement: Verizon's 4G network will be available in 38 markets and major airports, covering approximately 100+ million people by the end of the year. We plan to double that in 2012 and cover our entire existing 3G footprint with 4G LTE by the end of 2013. Verizon Wireless is aggressively building the nation’s first 4G LTE network across the same footprint that is currently covered by its nationwide 3G network, which covers more than 90% of the U.S. population. In order to provide access to this 4G LTE network to more of the U.S. population living in rural areas, Verizon Wireless plans to work with rural companies to collaboratively build and operate a 4G network in those areas using the tower and backhaul assets of the rural company and Verizon Wireless’ core LTE equipment and 700MHz spectrum. Verizon Wireless provides a unique opportunity for selected participants to leverage the company’s technical and spectrum resources. We are seeking companies that can assist in bringing the benefits of 4G LTE service to rural areas that currently lack Verizon Wireless coverage. Verizon Wireless may work with rural companies that have towers and backhaul capabilities, even if those companies are not currently wireless operators. Together, we will plan and coordinate a local LTE deployment schedule that makes sense for both Verizon Wireless and the rural company that we are collaborating with. http://aboutus.vzw.com/rural/Overview.html Steve Barnes General Manager PCS-WIN RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Verizon LTE
I am curious as to what this brings to the table and how the relationship actually is. Does the rural company build their own network, but with VZ's spectrum and brand of gear, then allowing full roaming? or Is this just a glorified contractor setup where the rural company is building VZ's network, but already has the towers\backhaul in place? The latter looks more attractive than the former. LTE gear probably isn't cheap, so who's going to buy it? If we're just glorified installation crews, then maybe it isn't so bad. I'm not terribly concerned about 4G network in my territory as I can quite easily build a faster fixed network. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 10/21/2010 7:22 AM, Steve Barnes wrote: Just got this from Verizon as a link on a advertisement: Verizon's 4G network will be available in 38 markets and major airports, covering approximately 100+ million people by the end of the year. We plan to double that in 2012 and cover our entire existing 3G footprint with 4G LTE by the end of 2013. Verizon Wireless is aggressively building the nation’s first 4G LTE network across the same footprint that is currently covered by its nationwide 3G network, which covers more than 90% of the U.S. population. *In order to provide access to this 4G LTE network to more of the U.S. population living in rural areas, Verizon Wireless plans to work with rural companies to collaboratively build and operate a 4G network in those areas using the tower and backhaul assets of the rural company and Verizon Wireless’ core LTE equipment and 700MHz spectrum.*** Verizon Wireless provides a unique opportunity for selected participants to leverage the company’s technical and spectrum resources. We are seeking companies that can assist in bringing the benefits of 4G LTE service to rural areas that currently lack Verizon Wireless coverage. Verizon Wireless may work with rural companies that have towers and backhaul capabilities, even if those companies are not currently wireless operators. Together, we will plan and coordinate a local LTE deployment schedule that makes sense for both Verizon Wireless and the rural company that we are collaborating with. http://aboutus.vzw.com/rural/Overview.html Steve Barnes General Manager PCS-WIN RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Verizon LTE
Read that to be they are working with those folks who operate their own cellular systems and are current Verizon Roaming partners……. Brian From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Steve Barnes Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 8:23 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Verizon LTE Just got this from Verizon as a link on a advertisement: Verizon's 4G network will be available in 38 markets and major airports, covering approximately 100+ million people by the end of the year. We plan to double that in 2012 and cover our entire existing 3G footprint with 4G LTE by the end of 2013. Verizon Wireless is aggressively building the nation’s first 4G LTE network across the same footprint that is currently covered by its nationwide 3G network, which covers more than 90% of the U.S. population. In order to provide access to this 4G LTE network to more of the U.S. population living in rural areas, Verizon Wireless plans to work with rural companies to collaboratively build and operate a 4G network in those areas using the tower and backhaul assets of the rural company and Verizon Wireless’ core LTE equipment and 700MHz spectrum. Verizon Wireless provides a unique opportunity for selected participants to leverage the company’s technical and spectrum resources. We are seeking companies that can assist in bringing the benefits of 4G LTE service to rural areas that currently lack Verizon Wireless coverage. Verizon Wireless may work with rural companies that have towers and backhaul capabilities, even if those companies are not currently wireless operators. Together, we will plan and coordinate a local LTE deployment schedule that makes sense for both Verizon Wireless and the rural company that we are collaborating with. http://aboutus.vzw.com/rural/Overview.html Steve Barnes General Manager PCS-WIN RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Verizon LTE
The concern I have is in my coverage area Verizon already has 6 towers. I doubt they would be to worried about working with me. What I see is that I have 2 years to upgrade my equipment to be able to beat Verizon at all levels. TVWS could be a real game changer to us being so wooded. 700 Mhz LTE will already have the advantage. Steve Barnes General Manager PCS-WINhttp://www.pcswin.com/ RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Servicehttp://www.rcwifi.com/ From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Steve Barnes Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 8:23 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Verizon LTE Just got this from Verizon as a link on a advertisement: Verizon's 4G network will be available in 38 markets and major airports, covering approximately 100+ million people by the end of the year. We plan to double that in 2012 and cover our entire existing 3G footprint with 4G LTE by the end of 2013. Verizon Wireless is aggressively building the nation’s first 4G LTE network across the same footprint that is currently covered by its nationwide 3G network, which covers more than 90% of the U.S. population. In order to provide access to this 4G LTE network to more of the U.S. population living in rural areas, Verizon Wireless plans to work with rural companies to collaboratively build and operate a 4G network in those areas using the tower and backhaul assets of the rural company and Verizon Wireless’ core LTE equipment and 700MHz spectrum. Verizon Wireless provides a unique opportunity for selected participants to leverage the company’s technical and spectrum resources. We are seeking companies that can assist in bringing the benefits of 4G LTE service to rural areas that currently lack Verizon Wireless coverage. Verizon Wireless may work with rural companies that have towers and backhaul capabilities, even if those companies are not currently wireless operators. Together, we will plan and coordinate a local LTE deployment schedule that makes sense for both Verizon Wireless and the rural company that we are collaborating with. http://aboutus.vzw.com/rural/Overview.html Steve Barnes General Manager PCS-WIN RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Verizon LTE
At the risk of being corrected yet again, I would recomend contacting them. I believe you will find (over time) that they are a bit more open than you believe. It is a slow process however. The big thing they are looking for are towers and backhaul. Many of the middle mile companies that have recently gotten funding are going to do quite well with this. From their web page, To learn about participating in this program, companies should contactphilip.jun...@verizonwireless.com with the following information: a.. Name and address of company b.. Contact name and title c.. Contact phone number d.. Contact E-mail address e.. Please describe your business, including the counties and states in which you operate f.. Please identify the rural areas that your business serves that you believe are in need of a 4G wireless network g.. Please provide us any comments, questions, or concerns you have about our initiative Don't take your organs to heaven, heaven knows we need them down here! Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. - Original Message - From: Brian Webster bwebs...@wirelessmapping.com To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 7:50 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Verizon LTE Read that to be they are working with those folks who operate their own cellular systems and are current Verizon Roaming partners……. Brian From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Steve Barnes Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 8:23 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Verizon LTE Just got this from Verizon as a link on a advertisement: WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Verizon LTE
From my conversations with VzB, folks, they understand it to be closer to the latter, with VzW doing the actual build, on infrastructure such as backhaul and towers from partners. But I could be wrong. Don't take your organs to heaven, heaven knows we need them down here! Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 7:46 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Verizon LTE I am curious as to what this brings to the table and how the relationship actually is. Does the rural company build their own network, but with VZ's spectrum and brand of gear, then allowing full roaming? or Is this just a glorified contractor setup where the rural company is building VZ's network, but already has the towers\backhaul in place? The latter looks more attractive than the former. LTE gear probably isn't cheap, so who's going to buy it? If we're just glorified installation crews, then maybe it isn't so bad. I'm not terribly concerned about 4G network in my territory as I can quite easily build a faster fixed network. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Verizon LTE
I guess you could think - fibertower. Don't take your organs to heaven, heaven knows we need them down here! Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 7:46 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Verizon LTE I am curious as to what this brings to the table and how the relationship actually is. Does the rural company build their own network, but with VZ's spectrum and brand of gear, then allowing full roaming? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Verizon LTE
Blake this is an excellent post and you are correct in that they are slow to change. Some markets will be better than others depending on the personality of the Chief Engineer. Brian -Original Message- From: Blake Bowers [mailto:bbow...@mozarks.com] Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 8:58 AM To: bwebs...@wirelessmapping.com; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Verizon LTE At the risk of being corrected yet again, I would recomend contacting them. I believe you will find (over time) that they are a bit more open than you believe. It is a slow process however. The big thing they are looking for are towers and backhaul. Many of the middle mile companies that have recently gotten funding are going to do quite well with this. From their web page, To learn about participating in this program, companies should contactphilip.jun...@verizonwireless.com with the following information: a.. Name and address of company b.. Contact name and title c.. Contact phone number d.. Contact E-mail address e.. Please describe your business, including the counties and states in which you operate f.. Please identify the rural areas that your business serves that you believe are in need of a 4G wireless network g.. Please provide us any comments, questions, or concerns you have about our initiative Don't take your organs to heaven, heaven knows we need them down here! Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. - Original Message - From: Brian Webster bwebs...@wirelessmapping.com To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 7:50 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Verizon LTE Read that to be they are working with those folks who operate their own cellular systems and are current Verizon Roaming partners……. Brian From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Steve Barnes Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 8:23 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Verizon LTE Just got this from Verizon as a link on a advertisement: WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Amplifiers OFDM: Facts vs Fiction
RFLINX dumped streakwave and are doing it on their own again, in case anyone didn't know. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 _ From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Blair Davis Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 4:21 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Amplifiers OFDM: Facts vs Fiction Talk to RF Linx... now streakwave. On 10/20/2010 3:44 PM, Marlon K. Schafer wrote: Most of the time a amp will clip the signal on an OFDM radio. So you do get amping but not accurate amping. If they make an amp specifically for OFDM then there should be no technical issues here. Good luck finding one :) marlon - - Original Message - From: Nick Huanca mailto:n...@greataukwireless.com To: WISPA General List mailto:wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 12:07 PM Subject: [WISPA] Amplifiers OFDM: Facts vs Fiction Hi all, Hope this finds everyone well. I wanted to reach out to the community as I've had a few birdies in my ear telling me to throw bi-directional amplifiers on our 3650 gear to reach the FCC limit on omni-directional antennas. The gear we're thinking about here is a Redline AN100U which has 23dBm output. I have heard some people tell me that ODFM and amplification is a terrible thing due to the carriers on the wave and timing. I have also heard people tell me there should be no problem with this if it is a fast-switching bi-directional amplifier. None of these people can really provide me literature or references to site their knowledge or show me actively working systems. I know, based on what we've seen with a few acquisitions, that amps dirty pretty much everything but have gotten people through some difficult problems. We've got some amps on older DSSS equipment that doesn't work great but had enabled the previous owner of the company to house his radios in the hut at the base of the tower. Any wizards out there that can shed some light on this? -- Nick Huanca GAW High-Speed Internet 619 Silver St, Front Bldg Agawam, MA 01001 [office] (877) 5-GET-GAW (877.543.8429) x214 [direct] (413) 203-4910 [mobile] (413) 570-0120 www.gaw.com Tell us how we did: www.gaw.com/survey --- PRIVACY AND CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This communication and any files transmitted with it are for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential, proprietary and/or legally privileged or protected information. If you believe you have received this communication in error, please immediately reply to the sender and delete this message. Any use, disclosure, retransmission, distribution, copying, or taking of any action based on this information by any person or entity other than the intended recipient is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. Because e-mail can be altered electronically, the integrity of this communication cannot be guaranteed. _ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Every email and website to be stored
URL worked here. Al -- At 11:44 PM 10/20/2010 -0700, Charles N Wyble wrote: --- URL is broken the irony is thick. Lol. Jack Unger jun...@ask-wi.com wrote: Every email, phone call and website visit is to be recorded and stored after http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/news/8075563/Every-email-and -website-to-be-stored.html -- END QUOTE - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Verizon LTE
Yeah but are the still going to have the 5GB/month cap? If so we could still be a viable option to consumers even if our speeds were slower. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 _ From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Steve Barnes Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 8:54 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Verizon LTE The concern I have is in my coverage area Verizon already has 6 towers. I doubt they would be to worried about working with me. What I see is that I have 2 years to upgrade my equipment to be able to beat Verizon at all levels. TVWS could be a real game changer to us being so wooded. 700 Mhz LTE will already have the advantage. Steve Barnes General Manager PCS-WIN http://www.pcswin.com/ RC-WiFi http://www.rcwifi.com/ Wireless Internet Service From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Steve Barnes Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 8:23 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Verizon LTE Just got this from Verizon as a link on a advertisement: Verizon's 4G network will be available in 38 markets and major airports, covering approximately 100+ million people by the end of the year. We plan to double that in 2012 and cover our entire existing 3G footprint with 4G LTE by the end of 2013. Verizon Wireless is aggressively building the nation's first 4G LTE network across the same footprint that is currently covered by its nationwide 3G network, which covers more than 90% of the U.S. population. In order to provide access to this 4G LTE network to more of the U.S. population living in rural areas, Verizon Wireless plans to work with rural companies to collaboratively build and operate a 4G network in those areas using the tower and backhaul assets of the rural company and Verizon Wireless' core LTE equipment and 700MHz spectrum. Verizon Wireless provides a unique opportunity for selected participants to leverage the company's technical and spectrum resources. We are seeking companies that can assist in bringing the benefits of 4G LTE service to rural areas that currently lack Verizon Wireless coverage. Verizon Wireless may work with rural companies that have towers and backhaul capabilities, even if those companies are not currently wireless operators. Together, we will plan and coordinate a local LTE deployment schedule that makes sense for both Verizon Wireless and the rural company that we are collaborating with. http://aboutus.vzw.com/rural/Overview.html Steve Barnes General Manager PCS-WIN RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Every email and website to be stored
Worked on my phone. On Oct 21, 2010 9:30 AM, Al Stewart stewa...@westcreston.ca wrote: URL worked here. Al -- At 11:44 PM 10/20/2010 -0700, Charles N Wyble wrote: --- URL is broken the irony is thick. Lol. Jack Unger jun...@ask-wi.com wrote: Every email, phone call and website visit is to be recorded and stored after http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/news/8075563/Every-email-and -website-to-be-stored.html -- END QUOTE - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] wlanparts.com (WAS: POE Injectors)
I would NOT recommend anyone ever buy from WLANparts.com. I used to purchase things there every six months. My last order I placed an order for a RB600 and an HPOL 5.8ghz omni. Total order was for like $350 or so. Got an email from them saying the omni was on backorder. Got the RB600 and waited for a month, didn't hear anything on the omni so I tried sending an email. They don't have any email address listed on their site, was just an online form. Tried that twice and never got a response, so I tried calling the phone number, never got through to anyone, left a couple messages and never got a return call. If I placed the order with a credit card I would have done a merchant charge back but my order was on my bank debit card so I couldn't. I've never placed an order with them again... that was over 6 months ago. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Faisal Imtiaz Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 11:50 PM To: sc...@brevardwireless.com; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] POE Injectors / Passive / Shielded ports Suggested alternates :- http://www.wlanparts.com/product/POE-INJ-S/Shielded-POE-Inserter-power-to-a- CAT5.html http://store.netgate.com/-P264.aspx http://www.mini-box.com/s.nl/it.A/id.309/.f http://www.l-com.com/item.aspx?id=24449 Regards Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom On 10/20/2010 11:29 PM, Scott Carullo wrote: POE Injectors I'm looking for some poe injectors, 2.1mm power feed, a power light would be preferred but not absolutely necessary, surge protection a bonus I do require shielded ethernet ports that are both connected (the shields) to each other or to power ground as well. I have used the little white triangle looking ones with the green lights but everybody shows them out of stock. Anyone have any idea who has them or a product you recommend. They are going into a box I am making to feed a bunch or radios 24v Thanks Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] wlanparts.com (WAS: POE Injectors)
Wow, I've ordered several things from there in the past 6 months and I have never experienced anything even remotely close to this issue. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 8:43 AM To: fai...@snappydsl.net; 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] wlanparts.com (WAS: POE Injectors) I would NOT recommend anyone ever buy from WLANparts.com. I used to purchase things there every six months. My last order I placed an order for a RB600 and an HPOL 5.8ghz omni. Total order was for like $350 or so. Got an email from them saying the omni was on backorder. Got the RB600 and waited for a month, didn't hear anything on the omni so I tried sending an email. They don't have any email address listed on their site, was just an online form. Tried that twice and never got a response, so I tried calling the phone number, never got through to anyone, left a couple messages and never got a return call. If I placed the order with a credit card I would have done a merchant charge back but my order was on my bank debit card so I couldn't. I've never placed an order with them again... that was over 6 months ago. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Faisal Imtiaz Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 11:50 PM To: sc...@brevardwireless.com; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] POE Injectors / Passive / Shielded ports Suggested alternates :- http://www.wlanparts.com/product/POE-INJ-S/Shielded-POE-Inserter-power-to-a- CAT5.html http://store.netgate.com/-P264.aspx http://www.mini-box.com/s.nl/it.A/id.309/.f http://www.l-com.com/item.aspx?id=24449 Regards Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom On 10/20/2010 11:29 PM, Scott Carullo wrote: POE Injectors I'm looking for some poe injectors, 2.1mm power feed, a power light would be preferred but not absolutely necessary, surge protection a bonus I do require shielded ethernet ports that are both connected (the shields) to each other or to power ground as well. I have used the little white triangle looking ones with the green lights but everybody shows them out of stock. Anyone have any idea who has them or a product you recommend. They are going into a box I am making to feed a bunch or radios 24v Thanks Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Verizon LTE
At 10/21/2010 09:36 AM, KurtF wrote: Yeah but are the still going to have the 5GB/month cap? If so we could still be a viable option to consumers even if our speeds were slower. It could be even worse than that, from a consumer perspective. They've talked about using LTE as a tool to moving all of their data plans onto measured or, more commonly, block-of-bits plans. The current new plans are an initial bid. LTE probably won't have flat rate anything. Hence it won't be a good substitute for a fixed wireless or wireline service, except for light users or those with very deep pockets... For nomadic and mobile applications, it should be really nice, but I wouldn't want to run Microsoft Update over it! Hence it is more complementary than competitive to most WISPs. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Steve Barnes The concern I have is in my coverage area Verizon already has 6 towers. I doubt they would be to worried about working with me. What I see is that I have 2 years to upgrade my equipment to be able to beat Verizon at all levels. TVWS could be a real game changer to us being so wooded. 700 Mhz LTE will already have the advantage. -- Fred Goldsteink1io fgoldstein at ionary.com ionary Consulting http://www.ionary.com/ +1 617 795 2701 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] wlanparts.com (WAS: POE Injectors)
I wish I could say the same thing. It appeared to me that they run things completely online and automated. If you have a problem forget about customer service, probably don't even have anyone answering phones, just leave a message and hope they call you back if they feel like it. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jason Hensley Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 9:53 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] wlanparts.com (WAS: POE Injectors) Wow, I've ordered several things from there in the past 6 months and I have never experienced anything even remotely close to this issue. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 8:43 AM To: fai...@snappydsl.net; 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] wlanparts.com (WAS: POE Injectors) I would NOT recommend anyone ever buy from WLANparts.com. I used to purchase things there every six months. My last order I placed an order for a RB600 and an HPOL 5.8ghz omni. Total order was for like $350 or so. Got an email from them saying the omni was on backorder. Got the RB600 and waited for a month, didn't hear anything on the omni so I tried sending an email. They don't have any email address listed on their site, was just an online form. Tried that twice and never got a response, so I tried calling the phone number, never got through to anyone, left a couple messages and never got a return call. If I placed the order with a credit card I would have done a merchant charge back but my order was on my bank debit card so I couldn't. I've never placed an order with them again... that was over 6 months ago. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Faisal Imtiaz Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 11:50 PM To: sc...@brevardwireless.com; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] POE Injectors / Passive / Shielded ports Suggested alternates :- http://www.wlanparts.com/product/POE-INJ-S/Shielded-POE-Inserter-power-to-a- CAT5.html http://store.netgate.com/-P264.aspx http://www.mini-box.com/s.nl/it.A/id.309/.f http://www.l-com.com/item.aspx?id=24449 Regards Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom On 10/20/2010 11:29 PM, Scott Carullo wrote: POE Injectors I'm looking for some poe injectors, 2.1mm power feed, a power light would be preferred but not absolutely necessary, surge protection a bonus I do require shielded ethernet ports that are both connected (the shields) to each other or to power ground as well. I have used the little white triangle looking ones with the green lights but everybody shows them out of stock. Anyone have any idea who has them or a product you recommend. They are going into a box I am making to feed a bunch or radios 24v Thanks Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
Re: [WISPA] Amplifiers OFDM: Facts vs Fiction
Hmmm... something happened. http://dockets.justia.com/docket/ohio/ohsdce/1:2010cv00054/135918/ http://dockets.justia.com/docket/ohio/ohsdce/1:2010cv00054/135918/ Regards, Chuck On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 9:28 AM, Kurt Fankhauser k...@wavelinc.com wrote: RFLINX dumped streakwave and are doing it on their own again, in case anyone didn’t know. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 -- *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Blair Davis *Sent:* Wednesday, October 20, 2010 4:21 PM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Amplifiers OFDM: Facts vs Fiction Talk to RF Linx... now streakwave. On 10/20/2010 3:44 PM, Marlon K. Schafer wrote: Most of the time a amp will clip the signal on an OFDM radio. So you do get amping but not accurate amping. If they make an amp specifically for OFDM then there should be no technical issues here. Good luck finding one :) marlon - - Original Message - *From:* Nick Huanca n...@greataukwireless.com *To:* WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org *Sent:* Wednesday, October 20, 2010 12:07 PM *Subject:* [WISPA] Amplifiers OFDM: Facts vs Fiction Hi all, Hope this finds everyone well. I wanted to reach out to the community as I've had a few birdies in my ear telling me to throw bi-directional amplifiers on our 3650 gear to reach the FCC limit on omni-directional antennas. The gear we're thinking about here is a Redline AN100U which has 23dBm output. I have heard some people tell me that ODFM and amplification is a terrible thing due to the carriers on the wave and timing. I have also heard people tell me there should be no problem with this if it is a fast-switching bi-directional amplifier. None of these people can really provide me literature or references to site their knowledge or show me actively working systems. I know, based on what we've seen with a few acquisitions, that amps dirty pretty much everything but have gotten people through some difficult problems. We've got some amps on older DSSS equipment that doesn't work great but had enabled the previous owner of the company to house his radios in the hut at the base of the tower. Any wizards out there that can shed some light on this? -- Nick Huanca GAW High-Speed Internet 619 Silver St, Front Bldg Agawam, MA 01001 [office] (877) 5-GET-GAW (877.543.8429) x214 [direct] (413) 203-4910 [mobile] (413) 570-0120 www.gaw.com Tell us how we did: www.gaw.com/survey --- PRIVACY AND CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This communication and any files transmitted with it are for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential, proprietary and/or legally privileged or protected information. If you believe you have received this communication in error, please immediately reply to the sender and delete this message. Any use, disclosure, retransmission, distribution, copying, or taking of any action based on this information by any person or entity other than the intended recipient is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. Because e-mail can be altered electronically, the integrity of this communication cannot be guaranteed. -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] wlanparts.com (WAS: POE Injectors)
Kurt, The guy that runs it is easily findable on twitter. I bet he is easily findable in the white pages as well. I will contact him re your issue. I hope you haven't damaged his business too much with your post here. Kurt Fankhauser k...@wavelinc.com wrote: I wish I could say the same thing. It appeared to me that they run things completely online and automated. If you have a problem forget about customer service, probably don't even have anyone answering phones, just leave a message and hope they call you back if they feel like it. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jason Hensley Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 9:53 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] wlanparts.com (WAS: POE Injectors) Wow, I've ordered several things from there in the past 6 months and I have never experienced anything even remotely close to this issue. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 8:43 AM To: fai...@snappydsl.net; 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] wlanparts.com (WAS: POE Injectors) I would NOT recommend anyone ever buy from WLANparts.com. I used to purchase things there every six months. My last order I placed an order for a RB600 and an HPOL 5.8ghz omni. Total order was for like $350 or so. Got an email from them saying the omni was on backorder. Got the RB600 and waited for a month, didn't hear anything on the omni so I tried sending an email. They don't have any email address listed on their site, was just an online form. Tried that twice and never got a response, so I tried calling the phone number, never got through to anyone, left a couple messages and never got a return call. If I placed the order with a credit card I would have done a merchant charge back but my order was on my bank debit card so I couldn't. I've never placed an order with them again... that was over 6 months ago. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Faisal Imtiaz Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 11:50 PM To: sc...@brevardwireless.com; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] POE Injectors / Passive / Shielded ports Suggested alternates :- http://www.wlanparts.com/product/POE-INJ-S/Shielded-POE-Inserter-power-to-a- CAT5.html http://store.netgate.com/-P264.aspx http://www.mini-box.com/s.nl/it.A/id.309/.f http://www.l-com.com/item.aspx?id=24449 Regards Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom On 10/20/2010 11:29 PM, Scott Carullo wrote: POE Injectors I'm looking for some poe injectors, 2.1mm power feed, a power light would be preferred but not absolutely necessary, surge protection a bonus I do require shielded ethernet ports that are both connected (the shields) to each other or to power ground as well. I have used the little white triangle looking ones with the green lights but everybody shows them out of stock. Anyone have any idea who has them or a product you recommend. They are going into a box I am making to feed a bunch or radios 24v Thanks Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Every email and website to be stored
Yeah. I got to it via /. Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Worked on my phone. On Oct 21, 2010 9:30 AM, Al Stewart stewa...@westcreston.ca wrote: URL worked here. Al -- At 11:44 PM 10/20/2010 -0700, Charles N Wyble wrote: --- URL is broken the irony is thick. Lol. Jack Unger jun...@ask-wi.com wrote: Every email, phone call and website visit is to be recorded and stored after http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/news/8075563/Every-email-and -website-to-be-stored.html -- END QUOTE - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] wlanparts.com (WAS: POE Injectors)
It's posts like these that keep a company honest. I wouldn't think that he damaged their credibility maliciously if what he has stated is accurate. You shouldn't have to dig around to find information or contact info on a company like that. Regards, Chuck On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 10:55 AM, Charles N Wyble char...@knownelement.comwrote: Kurt, The guy that runs it is easily findable on twitter. I bet he is easily findable in the white pages as well. I will contact him re your issue. I hope you haven't damaged his business too much with your post here. Kurt Fankhauser k...@wavelinc.com wrote: I wish I could say the same thing. It appeared to me that they run things completely online and automated. If you have a problem forget about customer service, probably don't even have anyone answering phones, just leave a message and hope they call you back if they feel like it. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jason Hensley Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 9:53 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] wlanparts.com (WAS: POE Injectors) Wow, I've ordered several things from there in the past 6 months and I have never experienced anything even remotely close to this issue. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 8:43 AM To: fai...@snappydsl.net; 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] wlanparts.com (WAS: POE Injectors) I would NOT recommend anyone ever buy from WLANparts.com. I used to purchase things there every six months. My last order I placed an order for a RB600 and an HPOL 5.8ghz omni. Total order was for like $350 or so. Got an email from them saying the omni was on backorder. Got the RB600 and waited for a month, didn't hear anything on the omni so I tried sending an email. They don't have any email address listed on their site, was just an online form. Tried that twice and never got a response, so I tried calling the phone number, never got through to anyone, left a couple messages and never got a return call. If I placed the order with a credit card I would have done a merchant charge back but my order was on my bank debit card so I couldn't. I've never placed an order with them again... that was over 6 months ago. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Faisal Imtiaz Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 11:50 PM To: sc...@brevardwireless.com; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] POE Injectors / Passive / Shielded ports Suggested alternates :- http://www.wlanparts.com/product/POE-INJ-S/Shielded-POE-Inserter-power-to-a- CAT5.html http://store.netgate.com/-P264.aspx http://www.mini-box.com/s.nl/it.A/id.309/.f http://www.l-com.com/item.aspx?id=24449 Regards Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom On 10/20/2010 11:29 PM, Scott Carullo wrote: POE Injectors I'm looking for some poe injectors, 2.1mm power feed, a power light would be preferred but not absolutely necessary, surge protection a bonus I do require shielded ethernet ports that are both connected (the shields) to each other or to power ground as well. I have used the little white triangle looking ones with the green lights but everybody shows them out of stock. Anyone have any idea who has them or a product you recommend. They are going into a box I am making to feed a bunch or radios 24v Thanks Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
Re: [WISPA] wlanparts.com (WAS: POE Injectors)
Kurt, I'm on this list. I never received any emails from you and our phone number is clearly listed on your website. I don't recall having any voice mails about this issue. If we dropped the ball on shipping an item, I'm very sorry. Like anyone, we do make mistakes and I'll look into this and refund if we missed shipping anything to you. You should hear back from me today about this. Thank you Frank Keeney Pasadena Networks, LLC Antennas, Cables and Equipment: http://www.wlanparts.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 7:09 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] wlanparts.com (WAS: POE Injectors) I wish I could say the same thing. It appeared to me that they run things completely online and automated. If you have a problem forget about customer service, probably don't even have anyone answering phones, just leave a message and hope they call you back if they feel like it. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jason Hensley Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 9:53 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] wlanparts.com (WAS: POE Injectors) Wow, I've ordered several things from there in the past 6 months and I have never experienced anything even remotely close to this issue. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 8:43 AM To: fai...@snappydsl.net; 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] wlanparts.com (WAS: POE Injectors) I would NOT recommend anyone ever buy from WLANparts.com. I used to purchase things there every six months. My last order I placed an order for a RB600 and an HPOL 5.8ghz omni. Total order was for like $350 or so. Got an email from them saying the omni was on backorder. Got the RB600 and waited for a month, didn't hear anything on the omni so I tried sending an email. They don't have any email address listed on their site, was just an online form. Tried that twice and never got a response, so I tried calling the phone number, never got through to anyone, left a couple messages and never got a return call. If I placed the order with a credit card I would have done a merchant charge back but my order was on my bank debit card so I couldn't. I've never placed an order with them again... that was over 6 months ago. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Faisal Imtiaz Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 11:50 PM To: sc...@brevardwireless.com; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] POE Injectors / Passive / Shielded ports Suggested alternates :- http://www.wlanparts.com/product/POE-INJ-S/Shielded-POE-Inserter-power-to-a- CAT5.html http://store.netgate.com/-P264.aspx http://www.mini-box.com/s.nl/it.A/id.309/.f http://www.l-com.com/item.aspx?id=24449 Regards Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom On 10/20/2010 11:29 PM, Scott Carullo wrote: POE Injectors I'm looking for some poe injectors, 2.1mm power feed, a power light would be preferred but not absolutely necessary, surge protection a bonus I do require shielded ethernet ports that are both connected (the shields) to each other or to power ground as well. I have used the little white triangle looking ones with the green lights but everybody shows them out of stock. Anyone have any idea who has them or a product you recommend. They are going into a box I am making to feed a bunch or radios 24v Thanks Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] wlanparts.com (WAS: POE Injectors)
I order once to twice a week from Pasadena Networks and I've never had one problem with them. Frank is easy to reach when I need an answer and their online inventory works unlike numerous other ordering places who tout what they don't have. His auto notification of when stock comes in works flawlessly and he's competitive on pricing. I'm not interested in starting a 'my place is better' war here so I'll just say I like these guys a lot so that's my recommendation. Forbes On 10/21/2010 6:52 AM, Jason Hensley wrote: Wow, I've ordered several things from there in the past 6 months and I have never experienced anything even remotely close to this issue. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 8:43 AM To: fai...@snappydsl.net; 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] wlanparts.com (WAS: POE Injectors) I would NOT recommend anyone ever buy from WLANparts.com. I used to purchase things there every six months. My last order I placed an order for a RB600 and an HPOL 5.8ghz omni. Total order was for like $350 or so. Got an email from them saying the omni was on backorder. Got the RB600 and waited for a month, didn't hear anything on the omni so I tried sending an email. They don't have any email address listed on their site, was just an online form. Tried that twice and never got a response, so I tried calling the phone number, never got through to anyone, left a couple messages and never got a return call. If I placed the order with a credit card I would have done a merchant charge back but my order was on my bank debit card so I couldn't. I've never placed an order with them again... that was over 6 months ago. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Faisal Imtiaz Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 11:50 PM To: sc...@brevardwireless.com; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] POE Injectors / Passive / Shielded ports Suggested alternates :- http://www.wlanparts.com/product/POE-INJ-S/Shielded-POE-Inserter-power-to-a- CAT5.html http://store.netgate.com/-P264.aspx http://www.mini-box.com/s.nl/it.A/id.309/.f http://www.l-com.com/item.aspx?id=24449 Regards Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom On 10/20/2010 11:29 PM, Scott Carullo wrote: POE Injectors I'm looking for some poe injectors, 2.1mm power feed, a power light would be preferred but not absolutely necessary, surge protection a bonus I do require shielded ethernet ports that are both connected (the shields) to each other or to power ground as well. I have used the little white triangle looking ones with the green lights but everybody shows them out of stock. Anyone have any idea who has them or a product you recommend. They are going into a box I am making to feed a bunch or radios 24v Thanks Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
Re: [WISPA] wlanparts.com (WAS: POE Injectors)
Charles, Well I would love to post to this thread saying that the issue was taken care of, I do not like posting negative stuff to lists about any vendors ever but I didn't want the same thing to happen to someone else that happened to me. Back on 4/27/10 after this issue occurred I posted to the WISPA general list titled: wlanparts.com ??? and said Does anyone know what's going on over at Pasadena Networks? Have not been able to get through on the phone for a few days and emails aren't being responded too either. The only response I got back on the list post was from Josh Luthman and he said he tried calling their number too and couldn't get though. Not a single other response from anyone else, for all I knew they were going out of business and appeared nobody else was purchasing from them due to no other thread responses. Now if you say you have a way to contact the owner I would very much appreciate it and tell him it is in reference to order # 2010-04-44416 Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Charles N Wyble Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 10:55 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] wlanparts.com (WAS: POE Injectors) Kurt, The guy that runs it is easily findable on twitter. I bet he is easily findable in the white pages as well. I will contact him re your issue. I hope you haven't damaged his business too much with your post here. Kurt Fankhauser k...@wavelinc.com wrote: I wish I could say the same thing. It appeared to me that they run things completely online and automated. If you have a problem forget about customer service, probably don't even have anyone answering phones, just leave a message and hope they call you back if they feel like it. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jason Hensley Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 9:53 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] wlanparts.com (WAS: POE Injectors) Wow, I've ordered several things from there in the past 6 months and I have never experienced anything even remotely close to this issue. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 8:43 AM To: fai...@snappydsl.net; 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] wlanparts.com (WAS: POE Injectors) I would NOT recommend anyone ever buy from WLANparts.com. I used to purchase things there every six months. My last order I placed an order for a RB600 and an HPOL 5.8ghz omni. Total order was for like $350 or so. Got an email from them saying the omni was on backorder. Got the RB600 and waited for a month, didn't hear anything on the omni so I tried sending an email. They don't have any email address listed on their site, was just an online form. Tried that twice and never got a response, so I tried calling the phone number, never got through to anyone, left a couple messages and never got a return call. If I placed the order with a credit card I would have done a merchant charge back but my order was on my bank debit card so I couldn't. I've never placed an order with them again... that was over 6 months ago. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Faisal Imtiaz Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 11:50 PM To: sc...@brevardwireless.com; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] POE Injectors / Passive / Shielded ports Suggested alternates :- http://www.wlanparts.com/product/POE-INJ-S/Shielded-POE-Inserter-power-to-a - CAT5.html http://store.netgate.com/-P264.aspx http://www.mini-box.com/s.nl/it.A/id.309/.f http://www.l-com.com/item.aspx?id=24449 Regards Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom On 10/20/2010 11:29 PM, Scott Carullo wrote: POE Injectors I'm looking for some poe injectors, 2.1mm power feed, a power light would be preferred but not absolutely necessary, surge protection a bonus I do require shielded ethernet ports that are both connected (the shields) to each other or to power ground as well. I have used the little white triangle looking ones with the green lights but everybody shows them out of stock. Anyone have any idea who has them or a product you recommend. They are going into a box I am making to feed a bunch or radios 24v Thanks Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 --- - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- - WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
Re: [WISPA] wlanparts.com (WAS: POE Injectors)
Answered honestly and credibly. While I've never worked with them I never heard any issues about them when I ran QLW. Regards, Chuck On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 11:15 AM, Frank inetli...@gmail.com wrote: Kurt, I'm on this list. I never received any emails from you and our phone number is clearly listed on your website. I don't recall having any voice mails about this issue. If we dropped the ball on shipping an item, I'm very sorry. Like anyone, we do make mistakes and I'll look into this and refund if we missed shipping anything to you. You should hear back from me today about this. Thank you Frank Keeney Pasadena Networks, LLC Antennas, Cables and Equipment: http://www.wlanparts.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 7:09 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] wlanparts.com (WAS: POE Injectors) I wish I could say the same thing. It appeared to me that they run things completely online and automated. If you have a problem forget about customer service, probably don't even have anyone answering phones, just leave a message and hope they call you back if they feel like it. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jason Hensley Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 9:53 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] wlanparts.com (WAS: POE Injectors) Wow, I've ordered several things from there in the past 6 months and I have never experienced anything even remotely close to this issue. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 8:43 AM To: fai...@snappydsl.net; 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] wlanparts.com (WAS: POE Injectors) I would NOT recommend anyone ever buy from WLANparts.com. I used to purchase things there every six months. My last order I placed an order for a RB600 and an HPOL 5.8ghz omni. Total order was for like $350 or so. Got an email from them saying the omni was on backorder. Got the RB600 and waited for a month, didn't hear anything on the omni so I tried sending an email. They don't have any email address listed on their site, was just an online form. Tried that twice and never got a response, so I tried calling the phone number, never got through to anyone, left a couple messages and never got a return call. If I placed the order with a credit card I would have done a merchant charge back but my order was on my bank debit card so I couldn't. I've never placed an order with them again... that was over 6 months ago. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Faisal Imtiaz Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 11:50 PM To: sc...@brevardwireless.com; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] POE Injectors / Passive / Shielded ports Suggested alternates :- http://www.wlanparts.com/product/POE-INJ-S/Shielded-POE-Inserter-power-to-a- CAT5.html http://store.netgate.com/-P264.aspx http://www.mini-box.com/s.nl/it.A/id.309/.f http://www.l-com.com/item.aspx?id=24449 Regards Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom On 10/20/2010 11:29 PM, Scott Carullo wrote: POE Injectors I'm looking for some poe injectors, 2.1mm power feed, a power light would be preferred but not absolutely necessary, surge protection a bonus I do require shielded ethernet ports that are both connected (the shields) to each other or to power ground as well. I have used the little white triangle looking ones with the green lights but everybody shows them out of stock. Anyone have any idea who has them or a product you recommend. They are going into a box I am making to feed a bunch or radios 24v Thanks Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] wlanparts.com (WAS: POE Injectors)
Kurt, I searched through my emails and found a message from you back in May. I'm sorry we dropped the ball on this one. Please confirm the name and address that we should use in sending you a check today. Please do so in a private email to frank @ wlanparts.com Thank you Frank Keeney Pasadena Networks, LLC Antennas, Cables and Equipment: http://www.wlanparts.com From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Chuck Hogg Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 8:22 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] wlanparts.com (WAS: POE Injectors) Answered honestly and credibly. While I've never worked with them I never heard any issues about them when I ran QLW. Regards, Chuck On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 11:15 AM, Frank inetli...@gmail.com wrote: Kurt, I'm on this list. I never received any emails from you and our phone number is clearly listed on your website. I don't recall having any voice mails about this issue. If we dropped the ball on shipping an item, I'm very sorry. Like anyone, we do make mistakes and I'll look into this and refund if we missed shipping anything to you. You should hear back from me today about this. Thank you Frank Keeney Pasadena Networks, LLC Antennas, Cables and Equipment: http://www.wlanparts.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 7:09 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] wlanparts.com (WAS: POE Injectors) I wish I could say the same thing. It appeared to me that they run things completely online and automated. If you have a problem forget about customer service, probably don't even have anyone answering phones, just leave a message and hope they call you back if they feel like it. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jason Hensley Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 9:53 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] wlanparts.com (WAS: POE Injectors) Wow, I've ordered several things from there in the past 6 months and I have never experienced anything even remotely close to this issue. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 8:43 AM To: fai...@snappydsl.net; 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] wlanparts.com (WAS: POE Injectors) I would NOT recommend anyone ever buy from WLANparts.com. I used to purchase things there every six months. My last order I placed an order for a RB600 and an HPOL 5.8ghz omni. Total order was for like $350 or so. Got an email from them saying the omni was on backorder. Got the RB600 and waited for a month, didn't hear anything on the omni so I tried sending an email. They don't have any email address listed on their site, was just an online form. Tried that twice and never got a response, so I tried calling the phone number, never got through to anyone, left a couple messages and never got a return call. If I placed the order with a credit card I would have done a merchant charge back but my order was on my bank debit card so I couldn't. I've never placed an order with them again... that was over 6 months ago. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Faisal Imtiaz Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 11:50 PM To: sc...@brevardwireless.com; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] POE Injectors / Passive / Shielded ports Suggested alternates :- http://www.wlanparts.com/product/POE-INJ-S/Shielded-POE-Inserter-power-to-a- http://www.wlanparts.com/product/POE-INJ-S/Shielded-POE-Inserter-power-to-a -%0d%0aCAT5.html CAT5.html http://store.netgate.com/-P264.aspx http://www.mini-box.com/s.nl/it.A/id.309/.f http://www.l-com.com/item.aspx?id=24449 Regards Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom On 10/20/2010 11:29 PM, Scott Carullo wrote: POE Injectors I'm looking for some poe injectors, 2.1mm power feed, a power light would be preferred but not absolutely necessary, surge protection a bonus I do require shielded ethernet ports that are both connected (the shields) to each other or to power ground as well. I have used the little white triangle looking ones with the green lights but everybody shows them out of stock. Anyone have any idea who has them or a product you recommend. They are going into a box I am making to feed a bunch or radios 24v Thanks Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/
Re: [WISPA] wlanparts.com (WAS: POE Injectors)
Rick, Have them ship it. I am not going to make it to cincy as originally planned this week. Thanks Scott Sent from my HTC on the Now Network from Sprint! - Reply message - From: Forbes Mercy forbes.me...@wabroadband.com Date: Thu, Oct 21, 2010 11:16 am Subject: [WISPA] wlanparts.com (WAS: POE Injectors) To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org I order once to twice a week from Pasadena Networks and I've never had one problem with them. Frank is easy to reach when I need an answer and their online inventory works unlike numerous other ordering places who tout what they don't have. His auto notification of when stock comes in works flawlessly and he's competitive on pricing. I'm not interested in starting a 'my place is better' war here so I'll just say I like these guys a lot so that's my recommendation. Forbes On 10/21/2010 6:52 AM, Jason Hensley wrote: Wow, I've ordered several things from there in the past 6 months and I have never experienced anything even remotely close to this issue. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 8:43 AM To: fai...@snappydsl.net; 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] wlanparts.com (WAS: POE Injectors) I would NOT recommend anyone ever buy from WLANparts.com. I used to purchase things there every six months. My last order I placed an order for a RB600 and an HPOL 5.8ghz omni. Total order was for like $350 or so. Got an email from them saying the omni was on backorder. Got the RB600 and waited for a month, didn't hear anything on the omni so I tried sending an email. They don't have any email address listed on their site, was just an online form. Tried that twice and never got a response, so I tried calling the phone number, never got through to anyone, left a couple messages and never got a return call. If I placed the order with a credit card I would have done a merchant charge back but my order was on my bank debit card so I couldn't. I've never placed an order with them again... that was over 6 months ago. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Faisal Imtiaz Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 11:50 PM To: sc...@brevardwireless.com; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] POE Injectors / Passive / Shielded ports Suggested alternates :- http://www.wlanparts.com/product/POE-INJ-S/Shielded-POE-Inserter-power-to-a- CAT5.html http://store.netgate.com/-P264.aspx http://www.mini-box.com/s.nl/it.A/id.309/.f http://www.l-com.com/item.aspx?id=24449 Regards Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom On 10/20/2010 11:29 PM, Scott Carullo wrote: POE Injectors I'm looking for some poe injectors, 2.1mm power feed, a power light would be preferred but not absolutely necessary, surge protection a bonus I do require shielded ethernet ports that are both connected (the shields) to each other or to power ground as well. I have used the little white triangle looking ones with the green lights but everybody shows them out of stock. Anyone have any idea who has them or a product you recommend. They are going into a box I am making to feed a bunch or radios 24v Thanks Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] wlanparts.com (WAS: POE Injectors)
Or its a smear campaign that doesn't hold water. I've seen that a lot on this list. Usually I stay out of it, but this time I had to speak up to defend a friend and locally (to me anyway) run company. As evidenced by the reply no real effort was made by the op to resolve the issue. Its easier to just write a nasty email to a professional association list. Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com wrote: It's posts like these that keep a company honest. I wouldn't think that he damaged their credibility maliciously if what he has stated is accurate. You shouldn't have to dig around to find information or contact info on a company like that. Regards, Chuck On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 10:55 AM, Charles N Wyble char...@knownelement.comwrote: Kurt, The guy that runs it is easily findable on twitter. I bet he is easily findable in the white pages as well. I will contact him re your issue. I hope you haven't damaged his business too much with your post here. Kurt Fankhauser k...@wavelinc.com wrote: I wish I could say the same thing. It appeared to me that they run things completely online and automated. If you have a problem forget about customer service, probably don't even have anyone answering phones, just leave a message and hope they call you back if they feel like it. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jason Hensley Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 9:53 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] wlanparts.com (WAS: POE Injectors) Wow, I've ordered several things from there in the past 6 months and I have never experienced anything even remotely close to this issue. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 8:43 AM To: fai...@snappydsl.net; 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] wlanparts.com (WAS: POE Injectors) I would NOT recommend anyone ever buy from WLANparts.com. I used to purchase things there every six months. My last order I placed an order for a RB600 and an HPOL 5.8ghz omni. Total order was for like $350 or so. Got an email from them saying the omni was on backorder. Got the RB600 and waited for a month, didn't hear anything on the omni so I tried sending an email. They don't have any email address listed on their site, was just an online form. Tried that twice and never got a response, so I tried calling the phone number, never got through to anyone, left a couple messages and never got a return call. If I placed the order with a credit card I would have done a merchant charge back but my order was on my bank debit card so I couldn't. I've never placed an order with them again... that was over 6 months ago. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Faisal Imtiaz Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 11:50 PM To: sc...@brevardwireless.com; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] POE Injectors / Passive / Shielded ports Suggested alternates :- http://www.wlanparts.com/product/POE-INJ-S/Shielded-POE-Inserter-power-to-a- CAT5.html http://store.netgate.com/-P264.aspx http://www.mini-box.com/s.nl/it.A/id.309/.f http://www.l-com.com/item.aspx?id=24449 Regards Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom On 10/20/2010 11:29 PM, Scott Carullo wrote: POE Injectors I'm looking for some poe injectors, 2.1mm power feed, a power light would be preferred but not absolutely necessary, surge protection a bonus I do require shielded ethernet ports that are both connected (the shields) to each other or to power ground as well. I have used the little white triangle looking ones with the green lights but everybody shows them out of stock. Anyone have any idea who has them or a product you recommend. They are going into a box I am making to feed a bunch or radios 24v Thanks Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
Re: [WISPA] wlanparts.com (WAS: POE Injectors)
Charles, The owner, Frank, has contacted me about this as of 10 minutes ago. I don't know what else I could have done here differently. First I sent an email to wlanparts, (which Frank acknowledged on the list that went un-noticed.) Second, I tried calling the phone number several times not getting through and also have Josh verifying as well by posting on list that he couldn't get through either on 4/27.) And 3rd I made the original thread on 4/27 asking for anyone if they know whats going on over at wlanparts.com where several people could have replied back and defended them including the owner Frank but Josh was the only one that replied. So after all that effort I described above tell me what was I supposed to do? It appears to me I exhausted all potential options. Anyways it doesn't matter as it appears the issue is being handled now and I am looking forward to posting on the list that it has been fully resolve as it appears Frank is now handling the issue himself. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Charles N Wyble Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 11:37 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] wlanparts.com (WAS: POE Injectors) Or its a smear campaign that doesn't hold water. I've seen that a lot on this list. Usually I stay out of it, but this time I had to speak up to defend a friend and locally (to me anyway) run company. As evidenced by the reply no real effort was made by the op to resolve the issue. Its easier to just write a nasty email to a professional association list. Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com wrote: It's posts like these that keep a company honest. I wouldn't think that he damaged their credibility maliciously if what he has stated is accurate. You shouldn't have to dig around to find information or contact info on a company like that. Regards, Chuck On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 10:55 AM, Charles N Wyble char...@knownelement.comwrote: Kurt, The guy that runs it is easily findable on twitter. I bet he is easily findable in the white pages as well. I will contact him re your issue. I hope you haven't damaged his business too much with your post here. Kurt Fankhauser k...@wavelinc.com wrote: I wish I could say the same thing. It appeared to me that they run things completely online and automated. If you have a problem forget about customer service, probably don't even have anyone answering phones, just leave a message and hope they call you back if they feel like it. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jason Hensley Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 9:53 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] wlanparts.com (WAS: POE Injectors) Wow, I've ordered several things from there in the past 6 months and I have never experienced anything even remotely close to this issue. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 8:43 AM To: fai...@snappydsl.net; 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] wlanparts.com (WAS: POE Injectors) I would NOT recommend anyone ever buy from WLANparts.com. I used to purchase things there every six months. My last order I placed an order for a RB600 and an HPOL 5.8ghz omni. Total order was for like $350 or so. Got an email from them saying the omni was on backorder. Got the RB600 and waited for a month, didn't hear anything on the omni so I tried sending an email. They don't have any email address listed on their site, was just an online form. Tried that twice and never got a response, so I tried calling the phone number, never got through to anyone, left a couple messages and never got a return call. If I placed the order with a credit card I would have done a merchant charge back but my order was on my bank debit card so I couldn't. I've never placed an order with them again... that was over 6 months ago. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Faisal Imtiaz Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 11:50 PM To: sc...@brevardwireless.com; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] POE Injectors / Passive / Shielded ports Suggested alternates :- http://www.wlanparts.com/product/POE-INJ-S/Shielded-POE-Inserter-power-to-a - CAT5.html http://store.netgate.com/-P264.aspx http://www.mini-box.com/s.nl/it.A/id.309/.f http://www.l-com.com/item.aspx?id=24449 Regards Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom On 10/20/2010 11:29 PM, Scott Carullo wrote: POE Injectors I'm looking for some poe injectors,
Re: [WISPA] wlanparts.com (WAS: POE Injectors)
I am happy to see that Frank has admitted his mistake. I believe that is the first step in proving a good vendor. We all know the quantity of emails and voicemails we receive on a daily basis and I bet each of you have procrastinated on answering emails or returning phone calls from time to time, only to have them buried by the next day's developments. WLANparts (Pasadena Networks). Frank has responded ethically to this complaint. We actually have a Code of Ethics in WISPA which says: Article http://www.wispa.org/?page_id=3 V g) Respond to any complaint or violations filed with the Association and participate in all processes and procedures of the Association with respect to that complaint. Although WLANParts is not a vendor member, I applaud Frank's follow up on this matter. I would like to invite ANYONE who has a complaint with a vendor, whether a WISPA member or not, to contact me personally before taking the complaint public on the list. I'll go to bat for you and hopefully will resolve the issue satisfactorily without damaging anyone's credentials on a public mailing list like this one. I promise you that every vendor has overlooked or has at least one frustrated client. It is the nature of the game, especially in today's rapid pace environment. There are probably also many vendors who have not received payment after extending terms to certain WISPs. It goes both ways. The vendors play a major part of WISPA and this industry. We need to all work together as a team to mediate successful outcomes. I worked with one vendor last spring who had not been paid by a certain WISP. The vendor asked me if the WISP was a WISPA member. He had applied but had not paid his dues. I called the vendor's client and emailed him, neither was returned. My proposal was that if the client would pay the bill or at least start making payments to the vendor, we could create a marketing press release which would focus on the clients use of the product and the vendor/manufacturer, giving both press that would hopefully increase their businesses. In this case, the vendor was very good to work with but this particular WISP was the one that was uncooperative. All this to say, there are positive outcomes to these issues that can be created with a little ingenuity. Although I often find myself in places I don't really wish to be, I believe that using the proper channels of communication is more beneficial to our industry, to WISPA and the success of our business endeavors. I don't want to become a bill collector full time, but I want to invite all to contact me once you think you have exhausted all of your resources before disparaging someone on a WISPA mailing list for all to see. Just remember, there are always two sides to each story. Respectfully, Rick Harnish Executive Director WISPA 260-307-4000 cell 866-317-2851 WISPA Office Skype: rick.harnish. rharn...@wispa.org From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Frank Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 11:30 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] wlanparts.com (WAS: POE Injectors) Kurt, I searched through my emails and found a message from you back in May. I'm sorry we dropped the ball on this one. Please confirm the name and address that we should use in sending you a check today. Please do so in a private email to frank @ wlanparts.com Thank you Frank Keeney Pasadena Networks, LLC Antennas, Cables and Equipment: http://www.wlanparts.com From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Chuck Hogg Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 8:22 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] wlanparts.com (WAS: POE Injectors) Answered honestly and credibly. While I've never worked with them I never heard any issues about them when I ran QLW. Regards, Chuck On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 11:15 AM, Frank inetli...@gmail.com wrote: Kurt, I'm on this list. I never received any emails from you and our phone number is clearly listed on your website. I don't recall having any voice mails about this issue. If we dropped the ball on shipping an item, I'm very sorry. Like anyone, we do make mistakes and I'll look into this and refund if we missed shipping anything to you. You should hear back from me today about this. Thank you Frank Keeney Pasadena Networks, LLC Antennas, Cables and Equipment: http://www.wlanparts.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 7:09 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] wlanparts.com (WAS: POE Injectors) I wish I could say the same thing. It appeared to me that they run things completely online and automated. If you have a problem forget about customer service, probably don't even have anyone answering phones, just leave a message and
Re: [WISPA] wlanparts.com (WAS: POE Injectors)
I just sent another option. :) Rick -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 11:52 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] wlanparts.com (WAS: POE Injectors) Charles, The owner, Frank, has contacted me about this as of 10 minutes ago. I don't know what else I could have done here differently. First I sent an email to wlanparts, (which Frank acknowledged on the list that went un-noticed.) Second, I tried calling the phone number several times not getting through and also have Josh verifying as well by posting on list that he couldn't get through either on 4/27.) And 3rd I made the original thread on 4/27 asking for anyone if they know whats going on over at wlanparts.com where several people could have replied back and defended them including the owner Frank but Josh was the only one that replied. So after all that effort I described above tell me what was I supposed to do? It appears to me I exhausted all potential options. Anyways it doesn't matter as it appears the issue is being handled now and I am looking forward to posting on the list that it has been fully resolve as it appears Frank is now handling the issue himself. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Charles N Wyble Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 11:37 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] wlanparts.com (WAS: POE Injectors) Or its a smear campaign that doesn't hold water. I've seen that a lot on this list. Usually I stay out of it, but this time I had to speak up to defend a friend and locally (to me anyway) run company. As evidenced by the reply no real effort was made by the op to resolve the issue. Its easier to just write a nasty email to a professional association list. Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com wrote: It's posts like these that keep a company honest. I wouldn't think that he damaged their credibility maliciously if what he has stated is accurate. You shouldn't have to dig around to find information or contact info on a company like that. Regards, Chuck On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 10:55 AM, Charles N Wyble char...@knownelement.comwrote: Kurt, The guy that runs it is easily findable on twitter. I bet he is easily findable in the white pages as well. I will contact him re your issue. I hope you haven't damaged his business too much with your post here. Kurt Fankhauser k...@wavelinc.com wrote: I wish I could say the same thing. It appeared to me that they run things completely online and automated. If you have a problem forget about customer service, probably don't even have anyone answering phones, just leave a message and hope they call you back if they feel like it. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless- boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jason Hensley Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 9:53 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] wlanparts.com (WAS: POE Injectors) Wow, I've ordered several things from there in the past 6 months and I have never experienced anything even remotely close to this issue. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless- boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 8:43 AM To: fai...@snappydsl.net; 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] wlanparts.com (WAS: POE Injectors) I would NOT recommend anyone ever buy from WLANparts.com. I used to purchase things there every six months. My last order I placed an order for a RB600 and an HPOL 5.8ghz omni. Total order was for like $350 or so. Got an email from them saying the omni was on backorder. Got the RB600 and waited for a month, didn't hear anything on the omni so I tried sending an email. They don't have any email address listed on their site, was just an online form. Tried that twice and never got a response, so I tried calling the phone number, never got through to anyone, left a couple messages and never got a return call. If I placed the order with a credit card I would have done a merchant charge back but my order was on my bank debit card so I couldn't. I've never placed an order with them again... that was over 6 months ago. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless- boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Faisal Imtiaz Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 11:50 PM To: sc...@brevardwireless.com; WISPA General List Subject: Re:
Re: [WISPA] wlanparts.com (WAS: POE Injectors)
I see that now Rick. I do say, you are the best Executive Director WISPA has ever had. :) Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Rick Harnish Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 12:01 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] wlanparts.com (WAS: POE Injectors) I just sent another option. :) Rick -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 11:52 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] wlanparts.com (WAS: POE Injectors) Charles, The owner, Frank, has contacted me about this as of 10 minutes ago. I don't know what else I could have done here differently. First I sent an email to wlanparts, (which Frank acknowledged on the list that went un-noticed.) Second, I tried calling the phone number several times not getting through and also have Josh verifying as well by posting on list that he couldn't get through either on 4/27.) And 3rd I made the original thread on 4/27 asking for anyone if they know whats going on over at wlanparts.com where several people could have replied back and defended them including the owner Frank but Josh was the only one that replied. So after all that effort I described above tell me what was I supposed to do? It appears to me I exhausted all potential options. Anyways it doesn't matter as it appears the issue is being handled now and I am looking forward to posting on the list that it has been fully resolve as it appears Frank is now handling the issue himself. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Charles N Wyble Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 11:37 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] wlanparts.com (WAS: POE Injectors) Or its a smear campaign that doesn't hold water. I've seen that a lot on this list. Usually I stay out of it, but this time I had to speak up to defend a friend and locally (to me anyway) run company. As evidenced by the reply no real effort was made by the op to resolve the issue. Its easier to just write a nasty email to a professional association list. Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com wrote: It's posts like these that keep a company honest. I wouldn't think that he damaged their credibility maliciously if what he has stated is accurate. You shouldn't have to dig around to find information or contact info on a company like that. Regards, Chuck On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 10:55 AM, Charles N Wyble char...@knownelement.comwrote: Kurt, The guy that runs it is easily findable on twitter. I bet he is easily findable in the white pages as well. I will contact him re your issue. I hope you haven't damaged his business too much with your post here. Kurt Fankhauser k...@wavelinc.com wrote: I wish I could say the same thing. It appeared to me that they run things completely online and automated. If you have a problem forget about customer service, probably don't even have anyone answering phones, just leave a message and hope they call you back if they feel like it. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless- boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jason Hensley Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 9:53 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] wlanparts.com (WAS: POE Injectors) Wow, I've ordered several things from there in the past 6 months and I have never experienced anything even remotely close to this issue. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless- boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 8:43 AM To: fai...@snappydsl.net; 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] wlanparts.com (WAS: POE Injectors) I would NOT recommend anyone ever buy from WLANparts.com. I used to purchase things there every six months. My last order I placed an order for a RB600 and an HPOL 5.8ghz omni. Total order was for like $350 or so. Got an email from them saying the omni was on backorder. Got the RB600 and waited for a month, didn't hear anything on the omni so I tried sending an email. They don't have any email address listed on their site, was just an online form. Tried that twice and never got a response, so I tried calling the phone number, never got through to anyone, left a couple messages and never got a return call. If I placed the order with a credit card I would have done a merchant charge back but my order was on my bank debit card so I couldn't. I've
Re: [WISPA] wlanparts.com (WAS: POE Injectors)
Hehe, the only one. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 12:03 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] wlanparts.com (WAS: POE Injectors) I see that now Rick. I do say, you are the best Executive Director WISPA has ever had. :) Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Rick Harnish Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 12:01 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] wlanparts.com (WAS: POE Injectors) I just sent another option. :) Rick -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 11:52 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] wlanparts.com (WAS: POE Injectors) Charles, The owner, Frank, has contacted me about this as of 10 minutes ago. I don't know what else I could have done here differently. First I sent an email to wlanparts, (which Frank acknowledged on the list that went un- noticed.) Second, I tried calling the phone number several times not getting through and also have Josh verifying as well by posting on list that he couldn't get through either on 4/27.) And 3rd I made the original thread on 4/27 asking for anyone if they know whats going on over at wlanparts.com where several people could have replied back and defended them including the owner Frank but Josh was the only one that replied. So after all that effort I described above tell me what was I supposed to do? It appears to me I exhausted all potential options. Anyways it doesn't matter as it appears the issue is being handled now and I am looking forward to posting on the list that it has been fully resolve as it appears Frank is now handling the issue himself. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Charles N Wyble Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 11:37 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] wlanparts.com (WAS: POE Injectors) Or its a smear campaign that doesn't hold water. I've seen that a lot on this list. Usually I stay out of it, but this time I had to speak up to defend a friend and locally (to me anyway) run company. As evidenced by the reply no real effort was made by the op to resolve the issue. Its easier to just write a nasty email to a professional association list. Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com wrote: It's posts like these that keep a company honest. I wouldn't think that he damaged their credibility maliciously if what he has stated is accurate. You shouldn't have to dig around to find information or contact info on a company like that. Regards, Chuck On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 10:55 AM, Charles N Wyble char...@knownelement.comwrote: Kurt, The guy that runs it is easily findable on twitter. I bet he is easily findable in the white pages as well. I will contact him re your issue. I hope you haven't damaged his business too much with your post here. Kurt Fankhauser k...@wavelinc.com wrote: I wish I could say the same thing. It appeared to me that they run things completely online and automated. If you have a problem forget about customer service, probably don't even have anyone answering phones, just leave a message and hope they call you back if they feel like it. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless- boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jason Hensley Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 9:53 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] wlanparts.com (WAS: POE Injectors) Wow, I've ordered several things from there in the past 6 months and I have never experienced anything even remotely close to this issue. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless- boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 8:43 AM To: fai...@snappydsl.net; 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] wlanparts.com (WAS: POE Injectors) I would NOT recommend anyone ever buy from WLANparts.com. I used to purchase things there every six months. My last order I placed an order for a RB600 and an HPOL 5.8ghz omni. Total order was for like $350 or so. Got an email from them saying the omni was on backorder. Got the RB600 and waited for a month, didn't hear anything on the
Re: [WISPA] wlanparts.com (WAS: POE Injectors)
Same experience here. Pasadena has always been on the ball From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Forbes Mercy [forbes.me...@wabroadband.com] Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 11:16 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] wlanparts.com (WAS: POE Injectors) I order once to twice a week from Pasadena Networks and I've never had one problem with them. Frank is easy to reach when I need an answer and their online inventory works unlike numerous other ordering places who tout what they don't have. His auto notification of when stock comes in works flawlessly and he's competitive on pricing. I'm not interested in starting a 'my place is better' war here so I'll just say I like these guys a lot so that's my recommendation. Forbes On 10/21/2010 6:52 AM, Jason Hensley wrote: Wow, I've ordered several things from there in the past 6 months and I have never experienced anything even remotely close to this issue. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 8:43 AM To: fai...@snappydsl.net; 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] wlanparts.com (WAS: POE Injectors) I would NOT recommend anyone ever buy from WLANparts.com. I used to purchase things there every six months. My last order I placed an order for a RB600 and an HPOL 5.8ghz omni. Total order was for like $350 or so. Got an email from them saying the omni was on backorder. Got the RB600 and waited for a month, didn't hear anything on the omni so I tried sending an email. They don't have any email address listed on their site, was just an online form. Tried that twice and never got a response, so I tried calling the phone number, never got through to anyone, left a couple messages and never got a return call. If I placed the order with a credit card I would have done a merchant charge back but my order was on my bank debit card so I couldn't. I've never placed an order with them again... that was over 6 months ago. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Faisal Imtiaz Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 11:50 PM To: sc...@brevardwireless.com; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] POE Injectors / Passive / Shielded ports Suggested alternates :- http://www.wlanparts.com/product/POE-INJ-S/Shielded-POE-Inserter-power-to-a- CAT5.html http://store.netgate.com/-P264.aspx http://www.mini-box.com/s.nl/it.A/id.309/.f http://www.l-com.com/item.aspx?id=24449 Regards Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom On 10/20/2010 11:29 PM, Scott Carullo wrote: POE Injectors I'm looking for some poe injectors, 2.1mm power feed, a power light would be preferred but not absolutely necessary, surge protection a bonus I do require shielded ethernet ports that are both connected (the shields) to each other or to power ground as well. I have used the little white triangle looking ones with the green lights but everybody shows them out of stock. Anyone have any idea who has them or a product you recommend. They are going into a box I am making to feed a bunch or radios 24v Thanks Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives:
[WISPA] P2P Traffic
I sure this has been asked before. How are you guys handling P2P traffic? We are using microtik on one of our networks. Thanks Bill WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] anyone know what this is about?
Most everyone with dsl already has a wireless access point thanks to Qwest, ATT and a few others. Nice 400mw units to boot! I am 'more afraid' of the 1099 stuff then I am of the FCC wanting licenses for all RF devices, but some days I can imagine all new stuff having a GPS chip and needing to phone into a database to ask permission to operate. On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 8:34 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: The day they try that I'm buying a bunch and giving them out to everyone I know as long as they promise to light it up! On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 12:28 PM, Stuart Pierce spie...@avolve.net wrote: No doubt, we have politicians that live in a fantasy world while we live in reality. I'm still waiting for mandatory licensing of wireless routers. -- Original Message -- From: Tom DeReggi wirelessn...@rapiddsl.net Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2010 10:55:34 -0400 What a racket. All I can say is Big Brother. Add another Bill to the list to fight and burn. I do find it ironic though, how classic Sci-Fi literature finds a way to evolve into current day reality politics. Sometimes I think these law makers either did not read enough as kids, or then again maybe they read to much. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Gary Garrett ggarr...@nidaho.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 2:19 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] anyone know what this is about? I'm thinking the Gov'mnt will not know for sure if there is a backdoor or not without trying it, and with just a few more clicks they are monitoring some guy at random and so we WILL be checked at random for our Protection. There goes the whole warrant thing right there. I am sure it works for them, Not Us. On 10/19/2010 12:13 PM, Greg Ihnen wrote: I heard about this on the Tech News Today podcast. Folks are not happy about it. It sounds like the end of encryption without back doors, without the govt having the keys. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ Sent via the WebMail system at avolve.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] P2P Traffic
Blocking it J --- Dennis Burgess, Mikrotik Certified Trainer Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik WISP Support Services Office: 314-735-0270 Website: http://www.linktechs.net http://www.linktechs.net/ LIVE On-Line Mikrotik Training http://www.onlinemikrotiktraining.com/ - Author of Learn RouterOS http://routerosbook.com/ From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Bill Price Sent: October 21, 2010 11:15 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] P2P Traffic I sure this has been asked before. How are you guys handling P2P traffic? We are using microtik on one of our networks. Thanks Bill WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] PtP Dish Alignment
1 person on each end with a small hand-held mirror. Flash the person on the other tower. When it's sunny out, you'd be surprised how far away you can see that. On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 12:39 PM, Chuck Profito cprof...@cv-access.comwrote: Well in my area if its e-w about a turn, n-s 2 or 3. But what do I know, Tim's doing the turning, I'm calling the signal levels to him. I'm the tower bender! :-) *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman *Sent:* Wednesday, October 20, 2010 11:05 AM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] PtP Dish Alignment So it's 50 foot higher and 10 miles away...what angle is that? On Oct 20, 2010 1:38 PM, Chuck Profito cprof...@cv-access.com wrote: Come on Josh, get a couple of land marks from Google Earth, that takes care of left and right, and Google Earth tells you altitude at the base of each plus your height, now it's just up or down from level, a few turns. Google is your friend! From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 10:02 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] PtP Dish Alignment I just filled a printer page with trig figuring out hoe I'm going to place my projector. There are more uses then people think. On Oct 20, 2010 12:55 PM, Mark Nash markl...@uwol.net wrote: YES LOL ;) Only once did I know of a a practical use for trig. A friend of mine was trying to make a cut pattern in sheet metal to make a cone. The cone had to fit a certain size at the top and a certain size at the bottom. The cone was a pivotal part of his home brewing system. He is the kind of guy who can buy this stuff pre-made but preferred to do it himself. I don't have that kind of time on my hands, I just buy the stuff. Though he is a bit prouder of HIS homebrew system than I am, and that's the difference. Nobody else who opens my fridge knows, though. - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman To: WISPA General List Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 9:16 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] PtP Dish Alignment Am I the only one that uses Trigonometry for vertical alignment? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 permail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] P2P Traffic
We are using NetEnforcer. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Bill Price Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 11:15 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] P2P Traffic I sure this has been asked before. How are you guys handling P2P traffic? We are using microtik on one of our networks. Thanks Bill WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] POE Injectors / Passive / Shielded ports
This probably fits the bill. http://www.wlanparts.com/product/POE-INJ-LED-S/Shielded-POE-Inserter-With-Po wer-Current-LEDS.html Shielded and has a power on led and a current indicator led (to show when something is drawing current at the end of the cat5 cable run). Works to 24VDC. Regards, Scott From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Scott Carullo Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 9:30 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] POE Injectors / Passive / Shielded ports POE Injectors I'm looking for some poe injectors, 2.1mm power feed, a power light would be preferred but not absolutely necessary, surge protection a bonus I do require shielded ethernet ports that are both connected (the shields) to each other or to power ground as well. I have used the little white triangle looking ones with the green lights but everybody shows them out of stock. Anyone have any idea who has them or a product you recommend. They are going into a box I am making to feed a bunch or radios 24v Thanks Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 http://www.flhsi.com/files/emaillogo.jpg WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Verizon LTE
Yes this says. BTOP/BIP recipients You know that open access policy. Guess what, we are going to use your assets to compete against you for last mile customers, and we wont have any restrictions. We (Verizon) have the spectrum and you dont, so we are protected. You know what... we want you as our tower company/bandwdith company, because all the other pre-existing landlords are a pain to deal with, and they charge us way to much. We'll let you be our vendor, IF you give us a better price. You should be able to since your network was built with subsidized money. You wont make millions on last mile Internet, but we'll let you make a few dollars on transport and towers. And you know... this deal will really help us (Verizon). The reason is that we use Fiber tower ALOT. And Fiber tower has very little competition. We'd love Fiber tower to have competitions, so the price of licensed wireless transport will go down, when we (verizon) isn't the one providing it. I'm not saying that it is good or bad, just saying it is what it is. Sure its smart for Verizon to look at all their options to partner that can save them money and reduce their investment. What I will say is that all the big telcos look toward moving their models from reoccuring lease costs to ownerous costs. The yare smart enough to know the value of owning their resources when it is possible. So I believe Verizon will have very tough contracts, to guarantee that they get a good deal on the partnerships. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Steve Barnes To: WISPA General List Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 8:22 AM Subject: [WISPA] Verizon LTE Just got this from Verizon as a link on a advertisement: Verizon's 4G network will be available in 38 markets and major airports, covering approximately 100+ million people by the end of the year. We plan to double that in 2012 and cover our entire existing 3G footprint with 4G LTE by the end of 2013. Verizon Wireless is aggressively building the nation’s first 4G LTE network across the same footprint that is currently covered by its nationwide 3G network, which covers more than 90% of the U.S. population. In order to provide access to this 4G LTE network to more of the U.S. population living in rural areas, Verizon Wireless plans to work with rural companies to collaboratively build and operate a 4G network in those areas using the tower and backhaul assets of the rural company and Verizon Wireless’ core LTE equipment and 700MHz spectrum. Verizon Wireless provides a unique opportunity for selected participants to leverage the company’s technical and spectrum resources. We are seeking companies that can assist in bringing the benefits of 4G LTE service to rural areas that currently lack Verizon Wireless coverage. Verizon Wireless may work with rural companies that have towers and backhaul capabilities, even if those companies are not currently wireless operators. Together, we will plan and coordinate a local LTE deployment schedule that makes sense for both Verizon Wireless and the rural company that we are collaborating with. http://aboutus.vzw.com/rural/Overview.html Steve Barnes General Manager PCS-WIN RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] P2P Traffic
Limit it. Lots of legit p2p traffic (WOW, download Cent OS, etc.) -- Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net http://www.mtin.net/blog xISP News http://www.twitter.com/j2sw Follow me on Twitter Wisp Consulting Tower Climbing Network Support From: Dennis Burgess dmburg...@linktechs.net Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2010 11:23:54 -0500 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] P2P Traffic Blocking it J --- Dennis Burgess, Mikrotik Certified Trainer Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik WISP Support Services Office: 314-735-0270 Website: http://www.linktechs.net http://www.linktechs.net/ LIVE On-Line Mikrotik Training http://www.onlinemikrotiktraining.com/ - Author of Learn RouterOS http://routerosbook.com/ From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Bill Price Sent: October 21, 2010 11:15 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] P2P Traffic I sure this has been asked before. How are you guys handling P2P traffic? We are using microtik on one of our networks. Thanks Bill WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] P2P Traffic
Allowing it, queuing the customer's that download for large periods of time to slower speeds. Games are starting to use it more and more...We allow 25GB/mth of usage before they are cut back to 128k. That only accounts for like 10 customers of over 1500. Regards, Chuck On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 1:17 PM, Justin Wilson li...@mtin.net wrote: Limit it. Lots of legit p2p traffic (WOW, download Cent OS, etc.) -- Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net http://www.mtin.net/blog – xISP News http://www.twitter.com/j2sw – Follow me on Twitter Wisp Consulting – Tower Climbing – Network Support -- *From: *Dennis Burgess dmburg...@linktechs.net *Reply-To: *WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org *Date: *Thu, 21 Oct 2010 11:23:54 -0500 *To: *WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] P2P Traffic Blocking it J *--- ** Dennis Burgess, Mikrotik Certified Trainer Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik WISP Support Services Office*: 314-735-0270 *Website*: http://www.linktechs.net http://www.linktechs.net/ *LIVE On-Line Mikrotik Training http://www.onlinemikrotiktraining.com/ - Author of Learn RouterOS http://routerosbook.com/ * *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgwireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Bill Price *Sent:* October 21, 2010 11:15 AM *To:* 'WISPA General List' *Subject:* [WISPA] P2P Traffic I sure this has been asked before. How are you guys handling P2P traffic? We are using microtik on one of our networks. Thanks Bill -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] P2P Traffic
We just limit torrent to 1M and all other p2p to 2M in our Powerouters. We also limit client connections to 50 per IP. I got tired of telling subs to set WOW to use http. Jim Patient Cell: 314-565-6863 Desk: 636-692-4200 YIM: jeffcosoho www.wlan1.com www.linktechs.net www.wifimidwest.com On 10/21/2010 12:33 PM, Chuck Hogg wrote: Allowing it, queuing the customer's that download for large periods of time to slower speeds. Games are starting to use it more and more...We allow 25GB/mth of usage before they are cut back to 128k. That only accounts for like 10 customers of over 1500. Regards, Chuck On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 1:17 PM, Justin Wilson li...@mtin.net mailto:li...@mtin.net wrote: Limit it. Lots of legit p2p traffic (WOW, download Cent OS, etc.) -- Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net http://j...@mtin.net http://www.mtin.net/blog – xISP News http://www.twitter.com/j2sw – Follow me on Twitter Wisp Consulting – Tower Climbing – Network Support *From: *Dennis Burgess dmburg...@linktechs.net http://dmburg...@linktechs.net *Reply-To: *WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org http://wireless@wispa.org *Date: *Thu, 21 Oct 2010 11:23:54 -0500 *To: *WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org http://wireless@wispa.org *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] P2P Traffic Blocking it J *--- ** _Dennis Burgess, Mikrotik Certified Trainer_ Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik WISP Support Services Office*: 314-735-0270 *Website*: http://www.linktechs.net http://www.linktechs.net/ */LIVE On-Line Mikrotik Training http://www.onlinemikrotiktraining.com/ - Author of Learn RouterOS http://routerosbook.com/ /* *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org http://wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Bill Price *Sent:* October 21, 2010 11:15 AM *To:* 'WISPA General List' *Subject:* [WISPA] P2P Traffic I sure this has been asked before. How are you guys handling P2P traffic? We are using microtik on one of our networks. Thanks Bill WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org http://wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] wlanparts.com (WAS: POE Injectors)
Kurt's check should arrive on or before October 25th. A few people mentioned not being able to get through our phones in late April. If I'm remembering correctly, that was the time our PBX went south. I was fixed shortly thereafter. I appreciate all the supporting comments on this list. We'll reexamin how we monitor inquiries. Thank you Frank Keeney Pasadena Networks, LLC Antennas, Cables and Equipment: http://www.wlanparts.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Amplifiers OFDM: Facts vs Fiction
I did not know that On 10/21/2010 9:28 AM, Kurt Fankhauser wrote: RFLINX dumped streakwave and are doing it on their own again, in case anyone didnt know. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Blair Davis Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 4:21 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Amplifiers OFDM: Facts vs Fiction Talk to RF Linx... now streakwave. On 10/20/2010 3:44 PM, Marlon K. Schafer wrote: Most of the time a amp will "clip" the signal on an OFDM radio. So you do get amping but not accurate amping. If they make an amp specifically for OFDM then there should be no technical issues here. Good luck finding one :) marlon - - Original Message - From: Nick Huanca To: WISPA General List Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 12:07 PM Subject: [WISPA] Amplifiers OFDM: Facts vs Fiction Hi all, Hope this finds everyone well. I wanted to reach out to the community as I've had a few birdies in my ear telling me to throw bi-directional amplifiers on our 3650 gear to reach the FCC limit on omni-directional antennas. The gear we're thinking about here is a Redline AN100U which has 23dBm output. I have heard some peopletell me that ODFM and amplification is a terrible thing due to the carriers on the wave and timing. I have also heard people tell me there should be no problem with this if it is a "fast-switching" bi-directional amplifier. None of these people can really provide meliteratureor references to site their knowledge or show me actively working systems. I know, based on what we've seen with a few acquisitions,
Re: [WISPA] Remote Controlled Drone
Shaver yes: http://www.tomsoft.co.uk/iphone/shaver.htm On 10/20/2010 09:01 PM, RickG wrote: Does an iphone include a shaver swiss knife yet? :) On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 8:21 PM, John Thomas jtho...@quarnet.com wrote: I have no idea if this would be on any use to anyone, but it seems like it might save a tower climb somewhere. http://www.brookstone.com/ar-drone-quadricopter.html?bkiid=hmpg|hdr|652479p You can remote control it with an iPhone and it has a camera. John WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] anyone know what this is about?
http://www.networkworld.com/columnists/2010/100610antonopoulos.html covers it with reasonable skill. Basically if this happens, illegal activity will be safely secure with illegal encryption (The cat is out of the bag with regard to quality encryption), and legal activity will be of unknown security because of the backdoors. Add software developers to the list of people who should be irate. That's where the back doors will be. I predict, if it is allowed to happen, all software industry will leave the USA (except perhaps those making stuff soley for the government) for greener pastures where they can make software that people can trust. On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 02:43:31PM -0430, Greg Ihnen wrote: I heard about this on the Tech News Today podcast. Folks are not happy about it. It sounds like the end of encryption without back doors, without the govt having the keys. Greg On Oct 19, 2010, at 2:25 PM, MDK wrote: LOL... Seriously, I've not seen any mention of this anywhere on any of the wireless sites, nor any other news site... So, my question... Does anyone know anything about this? I'm thinking that just about every telecom/internet/isp/voip/etc engaged entity should be on high alert to head this off at the pass, so to speak. ++ Neofast, Inc, Making internet easy 541-969-8200 509-386-4589 ++ From: RickG Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 8:39 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] anyone know what this is about? They'll call it the obama-air bill. On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 11:35 AM, MDK rea...@muddyfrogwater.us wrote: http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/19/us/19wiretap.html?_r=1 Quote: An Obama administration task force that includes officials from the Justice and Commerce Departments, the F.B.I.and other agencies recently began working on draft legislation to strengthen and expand the Communications Assistance to Law Enforcement Act, a 1994 law that says telephone and broadband companies must design their services so that they can begin conducting surveillance of a target immediately after being presented with a court order. There is not yet agreement over the details, according to officials familiar with the deliberations, but they said the administration intends to submit a package to Congress next year. Another quote: Another proposal would create an incentive for companies to show new systems to the F.B.I. before deployment. Under the plan, an agreement with the bureau certifying that the system is acceptable would be an alternative ?safe harbor,? ensuring the firm could not be fined. I am obviously not being... anything other that correct to say People, this is serious... You can't deploy anything new until the government approves of it, or face massive liability for fines and fees? ++ Neofast, Inc, Making internet easy 541-969-8200 509-386-4589 ++ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- /* Jason Philbrook | Midcoast Internet Solutions - Wireless and DSL KB1IOJ| Broadband Internet Access, Dialup, and Hosting http://f64.nu/ | for Midcoast Mainehttp://www.midcoast.com/ */
Re: [WISPA] wlanparts.com (WAS: POE Injectors)
I second that! :) -RickG On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 12:03 PM, Kurt Fankhauser k...@wavelinc.com wrote: I see that now Rick. I do say, you are the best Executive Director WISPA has ever had. :) Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Rick Harnish Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 12:01 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] wlanparts.com (WAS: POE Injectors) I just sent another option. :) Rick -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 11:52 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] wlanparts.com (WAS: POE Injectors) Charles, The owner, Frank, has contacted me about this as of 10 minutes ago. I don't know what else I could have done here differently. First I sent an email to wlanparts, (which Frank acknowledged on the list that went un-noticed.) Second, I tried calling the phone number several times not getting through and also have Josh verifying as well by posting on list that he couldn't get through either on 4/27.) And 3rd I made the original thread on 4/27 asking for anyone if they know whats going on over at wlanparts.com where several people could have replied back and defended them including the owner Frank but Josh was the only one that replied. So after all that effort I described above tell me what was I supposed to do? It appears to me I exhausted all potential options. Anyways it doesn't matter as it appears the issue is being handled now and I am looking forward to posting on the list that it has been fully resolve as it appears Frank is now handling the issue himself. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Charles N Wyble Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 11:37 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] wlanparts.com (WAS: POE Injectors) Or its a smear campaign that doesn't hold water. I've seen that a lot on this list. Usually I stay out of it, but this time I had to speak up to defend a friend and locally (to me anyway) run company. As evidenced by the reply no real effort was made by the op to resolve the issue. Its easier to just write a nasty email to a professional association list. Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com wrote: It's posts like these that keep a company honest. I wouldn't think that he damaged their credibility maliciously if what he has stated is accurate. You shouldn't have to dig around to find information or contact info on a company like that. Regards, Chuck On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 10:55 AM, Charles N Wyble char...@knownelement.comwrote: Kurt, The guy that runs it is easily findable on twitter. I bet he is easily findable in the white pages as well. I will contact him re your issue. I hope you haven't damaged his business too much with your post here. Kurt Fankhauser k...@wavelinc.com wrote: I wish I could say the same thing. It appeared to me that they run things completely online and automated. If you have a problem forget about customer service, probably don't even have anyone answering phones, just leave a message and hope they call you back if they feel like it. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless- boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jason Hensley Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 9:53 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] wlanparts.com (WAS: POE Injectors) Wow, I've ordered several things from there in the past 6 months and I have never experienced anything even remotely close to this issue. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless- boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 8:43 AM To: fai...@snappydsl.net; 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] wlanparts.com (WAS: POE Injectors) I would NOT recommend anyone ever buy from WLANparts.com. I used to purchase things there every six months. My last order I placed an order for a RB600 and an HPOL 5.8ghz omni. Total order was for like $350 or so. Got an email from them saying the omni was on backorder. Got the RB600 and waited for a month, didn't hear anything on the omni so I tried sending an email. They don't have any email address listed on their site, was just an online form. Tried that twice and never got a response, so I tried
Re: [WISPA] Remote Controlled Drone
I agree with you there. On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 7:48 AM, Blake Bowers bbow...@mozarks.com wrote: Let us all know how that works out for you. Key things I noticed when I read the FAQ, 1. the range will be greater if the AR drone is used in wide-open space with few Wi-Fi waves. Now, I am not a great technical wizard, but won't the majority of users from the WISPA mailing list have some of those pesky Wi-Fi waves kicking around? 2. the AR.Drone can maintain STABLE FLIGHT (emphasis added by me) at a height of up to 6 meters / 20 feet. Now, Stable flight would be kind of important when doing anything other than using it as a fun toy I would imagine. I don't see many water tanks under 20 feet - and if I did I carry a ladder. All I was trying to do was get a bit more info out there on the thing, it looks like a GREAT toy, and I am thinking about ordering one just to play around with, but to expect it to be a dependable tool in your toolbox? Buyer beware. They put plenty of warnings in the information on the manufacturers web page, (which is what I posted) so don't expect STABLE FLIGHT more than that 20 feet up, and be pleasently surprised if you get more than the 20 feet. What is the range of the AR.Drone? The range of the AR.Drone depends on the environment in which it is being used: the range will be greater if the AR.Drone is used in a wide-open space with few Wi-Fi waves. For information, the average range is 50 meters / 160 feet. How high can the AR.Drone fly? Thanks to its many sensors, the AR.Drone can maintain stable flight at a height of up to 6 meters / 20 feet. Since the altitude at which the AR.Drone can fly depends exclusively on the Wi-Fi range, it can fly up to a height of 50 meters / 160 feet. The Altitude limited option in the AR.Drone's settings can be adjusted to restrict the height to 3 meters / 10 feet. Don't take your organs to heaven, heaven knows we need them down here! Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. - Original Message - From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 11:03 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Remote Controlled Drone Most water tanks are less than 160', so it would work fine for that. On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 10:23 PM, Blake Bowers bbow...@mozarks.com wrote: http://ardrone.parrot.com/parrot-ar-drone/uk/support/questions-answers Going to have to be a short tower. Don't take your organs to heaven, heaven knows we need them down here! Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. - Original Message - From: John Thomas jtho...@quarnet.com To: wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 7:21 PM Subject: [WISPA] Remote Controlled Drone I have no idea if this would be on any use to anyone, but it seems like it might save a tower climb somewhere. http://www.brookstone.com/ar-drone-quadricopter.html?bkiid=hmpg|hdr|652479p You can remote control it with an iPhone and it has a camera. John WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/
Re: [WISPA] anyone know what this is about?
Ya, but I'm talking about EVERYONE. I'd plug them in just for the sake of it, even if they're not connected to anything. OK, enough of that cause it probably wont happen anyway. With that said, I agree, the 1099 thing is ridiculous. On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 12:21 PM, Jeromie Reeves jree...@18-30chat.netwrote: Most everyone with dsl already has a wireless access point thanks to Qwest, ATT and a few others. Nice 400mw units to boot! I am 'more afraid' of the 1099 stuff then I am of the FCC wanting licenses for all RF devices, but some days I can imagine all new stuff having a GPS chip and needing to phone into a database to ask permission to operate. On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 8:34 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: The day they try that I'm buying a bunch and giving them out to everyone I know as long as they promise to light it up! On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 12:28 PM, Stuart Pierce spie...@avolve.net wrote: No doubt, we have politicians that live in a fantasy world while we live in reality. I'm still waiting for mandatory licensing of wireless routers. -- Original Message -- From: Tom DeReggi wirelessn...@rapiddsl.net Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2010 10:55:34 -0400 What a racket. All I can say is Big Brother. Add another Bill to the list to fight and burn. I do find it ironic though, how classic Sci-Fi literature finds a way to evolve into current day reality politics. Sometimes I think these law makers either did not read enough as kids, or then again maybe they read to much. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Gary Garrett ggarr...@nidaho.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 2:19 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] anyone know what this is about? I'm thinking the Gov'mnt will not know for sure if there is a backdoor or not without trying it, and with just a few more clicks they are monitoring some guy at random and so we WILL be checked at random for our Protection. There goes the whole warrant thing right there. I am sure it works for them, Not Us. On 10/19/2010 12:13 PM, Greg Ihnen wrote: I heard about this on the Tech News Today podcast. Folks are not happy about it. It sounds like the end of encryption without back doors, without the govt having the keys. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ Sent via the WebMail system at avolve.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org
