RE: [WISPA] frame size and fps - was OT: about 70Mbps for under $ 6K
Charles, Usually I don't reply to 'opinions' like this. But, you have written things that you know nothing about and acted as if you are an authority on it. Concerning our Atheros wireless support. We were one of the first companies to ever support the Atheros for WISP systems in year 2000, we supported the AR5000 5GHz only card. Before that we supported the RadioLAN in 5GHz. We have written our drivers from the datasheet up. If you take a close look, you will see allot of wireless features that are unique -- such as dual Nstreme, wireless sniffer, WPA2 with local keys... It is up too the customers to decide how good they think the system is. John www.mikrotik.com At 01:16 AM 6/22/2006, you wrote: Hi Stephen, Regarding performance gains, it is worth defining what is meant by that term, as it can be vague and extremely misleading For example, if my solution required a router, the fact that Mikrotik had built in routing, while Alvarion did not, could be interpreted just as much as being a performance gain as Alvarion being (according to Tom D) more interference resistant than Mikrotik In our context, I was referring to specifically the wireless context from a wireless standpoint, Mikrotik hasn't done anything IMO extraordinary (at least they have HAL access though =) -- testing raw aggregate throughput on Mikrotik point-to-point systems yields generally similar throughput and packet per second numbers as stock 11a solutions -- now Nstream does offer some nifty features, but those are more upper MAC related (e.g., polling to solve contention-based MAC allocation) This isn't meant to say that Mikrotik has a bad wireless driver, rather, IMO, Mikrotik's value-add is more its integration of multiple features (that many other products don't support) On the other hand, others, like Alvarion, Trango and Star-OS (we haven't finished testing Star-OS yet) -- have spent more effort diving into the HAL and RF hardware portion (in the case more so for Alvarion Trango than Star-OS, which still utilizes cheap(er) off-the-shelf mini-PCIs) to optimize Rf throughput performance of their Atheros based systems On a 11a chipset, Trango gets ~40 Mb, Alvarion gets ~30 Mb (though this may be changing w/ their new v4.0) and StarOS *supposedly* gets ~30 Mb That said, then there's the question of user need -- am I willing to sacrifice an additional 20-30% bandwidth efficiency and save additional in exchange for having a lot of other built-in nifty and useful features? -Charles --- CWLab Technology Architects http://www.cwlab.com/ http://www.cwlab.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stephen Patrick Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 2:45 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] frame size and fps - was OT: about 70Mbps for under $ 6K Hi there, Not detracting from this great debate, but I'd have to make some Mikrotik comments at this point. We use their OS in our radios and the end product we have on the market does out-perform several well-known brands in terms of many parameters including throughput, stability and RX sensitivity. The extras (essentials for some customers) i.e. L3 features, wireless extensions, security add huge value and reduce total network cost as extra boxes suddenly vanish. Shameless plug, we not only offer completed products with warranty but training and full tech support (not the e-mail us variety: real people to speak to, on-site presence when it matters, etc). Of course Mikrotik performance gains might not apply if you were to take a DIY approach: performance can be terrible on the wrong hardware, tech support absent and you wouldn't have vital (legally required) certifications either. But as a vendor having built and shipped wireless products that use RouterOS and hearing the (cynical and wireless savvy) customer feedback saying consistently performance better than Brand X even comparing a simple L2 wireless bridge then I'd have to voice support for the OS. Sure do compare with Star-OS and others; or a real DIY: build it from bare hardware and FreeBSD/Linux with WiFi drivers or whatever... but as this thread came from vendor products I thought it worth chipping in - just my £0.01's worth. Regards Stephen CableFree Solutions www.cablefreesolutions.com -Original Message- From: Charles Wu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 20 June 2006 20:15 To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] frame size and fps - was OT: about 70Mbps for under $ 6K Hi Tom, Not to add another chink to your debate -- but it is worth noting that Mikrotik is more of a jack of all trades solution (they do routing, hotspot, etc) than a wireless solution While they do an ok job w/ wireless, IMO, their strength is more the convenience coming from the integration of multiple packages and its flexibility rather than the performance of any single feature If you're looking at
Re: [WISPA] MikroTik Dude 1.1
At 04:50 PM 6/15/2006, you wrote: Any plans to open source it, so others can contribute? We have a tool internally developed that seems very similar written in Java We are making it as extensible as can be by supporting: - importing MIBs (and MIB parser) - customized probe adding - custom tools (like Putty or others that can be executed from the Dude) - logic probes to group many probes together with logical elements - graphing customizations using 'regular expressions' - scripting for task But, it will not be open source. All suggestions for features are welcome! Especially ones that make it easier for you to add or develop additional features. John www.mikrotik.com -Matt John Tully wrote: I just wanted to announce that the full release of the Dude 1.1 network monitor is now on the web at: http://www.mikrotik.com/thedude.php This program is completely FREE of charge and is not proprietary to MikroTik equipment. The version in development -- the Dude 2beta -- can import SNMP MIBs for any device such as Canopy, Alvarion, and such. We will be adding MIBs from the most popular vendors so that you don't have to import them. We have had 11,000 downloads in the last two weeks now. And you will soon find it on more than 500 of the shareware/free download sites. John www.mikrotik.com -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik change channel center points
At 02:36 AM 6/8/2006, you wrote: MessageA few months ago, someone said this can be done, but for the life of me, I can't figure it out. Mikrotik channels are not aligned with Trango channels, and I want to slide/change my Mikrotik channel center points by 10 mhz so it matches my Trangos at the cell. I am not sure if we will have that in the 2.9 version -- but it is already in the 2.10 beta (not released yet). At the MUM meeting in Dallas, a number of people asked for that. For the powerchannel 5/10MHz channel size, I believe you can set the center channel in 5MHz increments. Here is a link to some pics from the MUM -- we had 140 participants! http://mum.mikrotik.com/?go=usa more pics http://mum.mikrotik.com/album2/ Also, we just released the Dude (full release) and the beta of the Dude2. http://www.mikrotik.com/thedude.php John www.mikrotik.com For example, now Mikrotik link is set at 5765. I'd like to have it set at 5755. (but 5755 not a choice in the channel selection box) Because I have Trango channel 1 (5736) and Channel 3 (5776) in use, and do not want 20 mhz channels to overlap with Mikrotik.. I do however see in the manual that wireless info command can report channels in 5 mhz increments. How do I set available channels to the 5 mhz increments, in MIkrotik? (I usually use Winbox for management) Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] The Mikrotik Advertisement Feature
Hello Paul, I will see if we can add better documentation for this these features. I think their web browser gets the ad page instead of where they wanted to go -- and then it goes on to where they wanted to go. John - WIRELESS ISP SYSTEMS AND ROUTERS MikroTikls SIA, Pernavas iela 46, LV-1009, Riga, LATVIA tel: +371 731 7700 fax: +371 731 7701 http://www.mikrotik.com US MikroTik User Meeting (MUM) May 4-5 Dallas, TX US MUM Training May 1-3 http://training.mikrotik.com/ - At 03:28 PM 4/18/2006, you wrote: I'll see what I can do but it's only in the lab at present. I'm not sure a public address would be any help as it relies on all your web traffic being transparently proxied through the MT. Once a pre-defined timer expires the MT would then send a pop-up to the end users when they next request (at least I think that's the theory). It should also block all traffic until the end user has seen the advert so I'm wondering if this would have problems with users running pop-up blockers. John? Cheers, P. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Scrivner Sent: 18 April 2006 13:18 To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] The Mikrotik Advertisement Feature I know this would be a bunch of work but can you either send us some screen shots of this in action or possibly give a public address to the hotspot side so we can see what this feature looks like in action? I would really like to see the ad feature running and I am having trouble visualizing exactly what it is doing. Many thanks, Scriv Paul Hendry wrote: Aha, now I see it. Never use Winbox so missed the option but now see it on the CLI too. Are there issues with this and pop-up blockers at all? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 18 April 2006 09:36 To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] The Mikrotik Advertisement Feature - Original Message - From: Paul Hendry [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2006 12:01 AM Subject: [WISPA] The Mikrotik Advertisement Feature I have recently been playing with the Hotspot side of Mikrotik which seems to work well. I had a look through the manual which suggests you should be able to re-direct people every now and again to advertisements but it doesn't actually explain how this is done. It looks to be done through the transparent proxy. Anyone tried this? Yes, it works with the transparent proxy. Just go to 'IP HotSpot User Profiles Profile Name Advertise' in Winbox. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.4.3/316 - Release Date: 17/04/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.4.3/316 - Release Date: 17/04/2006 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] The Mikrotik Advertisement Feature
Hello John, I know this would be a bunch of work but can you either send us some screen shots of this in action or possibly give a public address to the hotspot side so we can see what this feature looks like in action? I would really like to see the ad feature running and I am having trouble visualizing exactly what it is doing. Many thanks, Scriv There will be a demo of this at the MUM US meeting. John www.mikrotik.com Paul Hendry wrote: Aha, now I see it. Never use Winbox so missed the option but now see it on the CLI too. Are there issues with this and pop-up blockers at all? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 18 April 2006 09:36 To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] The Mikrotik Advertisement Feature - Original Message - From: Paul Hendry [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2006 12:01 AM Subject: [WISPA] The Mikrotik Advertisement Feature I have recently been playing with the Hotspot side of Mikrotik which seems to work well. I had a look through the manual which suggests you should be able to re-direct people every now and again to advertisements but it doesn't actually explain how this is done. It looks to be done through the transparent proxy. Anyone tried this? Yes, it works with the transparent proxy. Just go to 'IP HotSpot User Profiles Profile Name Advertise' in Winbox. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Update on the MUM meeting
For those interested... As we now have over 100 registered attendees for the MUM, we have upgraded our conference facility reservations to include room that can handle more than 175 people. THE SPECIAL PRE-REGISTRATION PRICE OF $50 HAS BEEN EXTENDED UNTIL ONE DAY AFTER EASTER (MONDAY THE 17TH)!!! DON'T MISS THE FIRST ANNUAL US MIKROTIK USER MEETING Come and: - learn and share your knowledge with other MikroTik users! - meet with support staff to help you plan your projects! - meet the sales staff and discuss projects! MUM (MikroTik User Meeting) details: REGISTER NOW FOR SPECIAL SAVINGS - $50 until April 17th! (price increases to $80 on April 18th) See MUM page for details: http://mum.mikrotik.com And the Training page for training info: http://training.mikrotik.com/course/view.php?id=34 No MikroTik account ID needed to register! Location: Dallas, TX, May 4-5th Registration Desk: May 3rd 4-6PM, May 4th 8-10AM Pre-meeting drinks: May 4th 6-8PM (free beer) Meeting Start: May 4th 9AM Meeting End:May 5th 5:30PM Other events included: RB112/500 raffles, 2nd night free beer, steak dinner (not included in price), demo lab tables, secure your router contest, and much more... John www.mikrotik.com -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Muni wireless
At 07:34 AM 3/24/2006, you wrote: John, When are we going to see some of the new CPE boards on the market? I forgot their number :-) Hello Mac, I can't tell you the details - I wish I could. There will be a new one announced and demonstrated at the MUM! John mum.mikrotik.com Mac Dearman Maximum Access, LLC. Authorized Barracuda Reseller MikroTik RouterOS Certified www.inetsouth.com www.mac-tel.us www.RadioResponse.org (Katrina Relief) Rayville, La. 318.728.8600 318.303.4228 318.303.4229 - Original Message - From: John Tully [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 10:57 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Muni wireless At 06:53 AM 3/24/2006, you wrote: John, When will we see something with a little more CPU power in an RB style configuration? 800mhz would be nice. ;) We have projects in design now, but we only announce details just before we are going into mass production -- and I don't have an estimate for that either! John www.mikrotik.com Travis Microserv John Tully wrote: What happened to the RB512's ?? Not enough demand, it seems that people are happy to pay the additional dollars for the full RB532. For those that used the RB512, the RB112 may be a suitable alternative. John mum.mikrotik.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Tully Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 8:16 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] Muni wireless At 01:39 PM 3/23/2006, you wrote: Have you released any pricing for a 2 and 3 radio system? Hello Chris, You can current buy the RB112 for $99 list price -- one Ethernet and two mpci. The RB532 with the RB502 has four mpci and three Eth -- I guess the price is something like $185 list together. They will both be software upgradable. The examples you will see at the MUM do not have the no config support. This is in development now. John www.mikrotik.com If I could add a word based on experience with more expensive systems- more control is better. An easy or auto install system needs to give the provider every option to inject control at every level. Lots of monitoring stats on both link and service side are great also. Thanks Chris Hello John, MikroTik is currently developing the biggest feature of mesh -- easy to install systems (no configuration required) that have a radio (or more) for local and a radio (or more) for backbone. This will enable WISP to compete better with the expensive Strix and other MESH systems. You will hear more about this at the MikroTik user meeting in Dallas - mum.mikrotik.com . John www.mikrotik.com -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Muni wireless
At 02:43 AM 3/23/2006, you wrote: I am glad to hear this. I am coming to the MUM in Dallas. I have already registered actually. I think Mac, Rick and Matt are all coming also. I look forward to seeing you guys again. Thanks for the update on mesh for Mikrotik coming soon. Thanks John, also I hear that Allen Marsalis is coming! Here are the detailed descriptions of the Mesh Hotspot System (MHS) presentations: --- Large Hotspot Systems, MESH, and Solar Powered RouterBOARDs, by Brian Vargyas (Concourse Communication) About the speaker: Brian has been in the wireless Internet business for more than seven years and has a degree in electrical engineering. He manages hotspot systems for Concourse Communications at major airports in the US and Canada (including Chicago O'Hare, Detroit, JFK, and a number of others). Wireless roaming with WDS and MESH, by Uldis Cernevskis (MikroTik) About the speaker: Uldis has been working as a wireless support specialist at MikroTik for six years. He supports a number of customers that are installing wireless MESH systems. --- Just in today, I have an update on the MUM!!! Butch Evans will give a presenation on VPNs and selling VPN services to customers. --- Application of VPN Technology with Mikrotik by Butch Evans * PPtP vs IPSEC * Selling VPN to business customers * Using VPN to simplify network security About the speaker: Butch Evans (formerly of BPS Networks) has been an ISP since 1995. Butch used the Mikrotik RouterOS to build out a network that served several hundred high speed users. Mikrotik RouterOS was an essential part of the network design, serving as firewall, QOS, VPN concentrator, APs and backbone routers. Currently, Butch is working full time as a network consultant. Butch has developed a training seminar for Mikrotik's RouterOS, which is taught 3-4 times per year across the US. --- and details of another on bonding: --- Bonding, Load Balancing, and Failover with MikroTik Practical examples and configurations for: - multiple DSL lines - multiple Wireless interfaces - multiple VLANs and EoIP tunnels May 5th, 11AM - by MikroTik staff --- John www.mikrotik.com Cheers, Scriv John Tully wrote: Hello John, MikroTik is currently developing the biggest feature of mesh -- easy to install systems (no configuration required) that have a radio (or more) for local and a radio (or more) for backbone. This will enable WISP to compete better with the expensive Strix and other MESH systems. You will hear more about this at the MikroTik user meeting in Dallas - mum.mikrotik.com . John www.mikrotik.com At 06:16 PM 3/22/2006, you wrote: Munis are just your hometown wanting service just like residents, business and education. As soon as we learn this we will all benefit from it greatly. Public safety specifically is the killer application of muni broadband in my opinion. If we all learn how to sell this to our towns and service it correctly we will inevitably win in the end. Backhaul to munis who decide to go it alone is also an option. I would bet most if not all of them would pay for a service agreement on their networks also. Maybe they will pay you to build their network for them? Scriv Matt Liotta wrote: I personally don't much care for Muni wireless as I would rather the government stay out of the ISP business. With that being said, Rome, GA announced that GTS had won the the contract to install a wireless system for the city. See http://muniwireless.com/municipal/bids/1102/ for details on the announcement. What I thought the list might find interesting is that we (AirInfinite, now One Ring Networks) were included in GTS's bid and will now be providing backhaul for the wireless network. I believe this is an interesting approach for WISPs to take when dealing with munis that have an interest in wireless. -Matt -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Muni wireless
At 01:39 PM 3/23/2006, you wrote: Have you released any pricing for a 2 and 3 radio system? Hello Chris, You can current buy the RB112 for $99 list price -- one Ethernet and two mpci. The RB532 with the RB502 has four mpci and three Eth -- I guess the price is something like $185 list together. They will both be software upgradable. The examples you will see at the MUM do not have the no config support. This is in development now. John www.mikrotik.com If I could add a word based on experience with more expensive systems- more control is better. An easy or auto install system needs to give the provider every option to inject control at every level. Lots of monitoring stats on both link and service side are great also. Thanks Chris Hello John, MikroTik is currently developing the biggest feature of mesh -- easy to install systems (no configuration required) that have a radio (or more) for local and a radio (or more) for backbone. This will enable WISP to compete better with the expensive Strix and other MESH systems. You will hear more about this at the MikroTik user meeting in Dallas - mum.mikrotik.com . John www.mikrotik.com -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Muni wireless
What happened to the RB512's ?? Not enough demand, it seems that people are happy to pay the additional dollars for the full RB532. For those that used the RB512, the RB112 may be a suitable alternative. John mum.mikrotik.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Tully Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 8:16 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] Muni wireless At 01:39 PM 3/23/2006, you wrote: Have you released any pricing for a 2 and 3 radio system? Hello Chris, You can current buy the RB112 for $99 list price -- one Ethernet and two mpci. The RB532 with the RB502 has four mpci and three Eth -- I guess the price is something like $185 list together. They will both be software upgradable. The examples you will see at the MUM do not have the no config support. This is in development now. John www.mikrotik.com If I could add a word based on experience with more expensive systems- more control is better. An easy or auto install system needs to give the provider every option to inject control at every level. Lots of monitoring stats on both link and service side are great also. Thanks Chris Hello John, MikroTik is currently developing the biggest feature of mesh -- easy to install systems (no configuration required) that have a radio (or more) for local and a radio (or more) for backbone. This will enable WISP to compete better with the expensive Strix and other MESH systems. You will hear more about this at the MikroTik user meeting in Dallas - mum.mikrotik.com . John www.mikrotik.com -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Muni wireless
At 06:53 AM 3/24/2006, you wrote: John, When will we see something with a little more CPU power in an RB style configuration? 800mhz would be nice. ;) We have projects in design now, but we only announce details just before we are going into mass production -- and I don't have an estimate for that either! John www.mikrotik.com Travis Microserv John Tully wrote: What happened to the RB512's ?? Not enough demand, it seems that people are happy to pay the additional dollars for the full RB532. For those that used the RB512, the RB112 may be a suitable alternative. John mum.mikrotik.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Tully Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 8:16 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] Muni wireless At 01:39 PM 3/23/2006, you wrote: Have you released any pricing for a 2 and 3 radio system? Hello Chris, You can current buy the RB112 for $99 list price -- one Ethernet and two mpci. The RB532 with the RB502 has four mpci and three Eth -- I guess the price is something like $185 list together. They will both be software upgradable. The examples you will see at the MUM do not have the no config support. This is in development now. John www.mikrotik.com If I could add a word based on experience with more expensive systems- more control is better. An easy or auto install system needs to give the provider every option to inject control at every level. Lots of monitoring stats on both link and service side are great also. Thanks Chris Hello John, MikroTik is currently developing the biggest feature of mesh -- easy to install systems (no configuration required) that have a radio (or more) for local and a radio (or more) for backbone. This will enable WISP to compete better with the expensive Strix and other MESH systems. You will hear more about this at the MikroTik user meeting in Dallas - mum.mikrotik.com . John www.mikrotik.com -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Muni wireless
Hello John, MikroTik is currently developing the biggest feature of mesh -- easy to install systems (no configuration required) that have a radio (or more) for local and a radio (or more) for backbone. This will enable WISP to compete better with the expensive Strix and other MESH systems. You will hear more about this at the MikroTik user meeting in Dallas - mum.mikrotik.com . John www.mikrotik.com At 06:16 PM 3/22/2006, you wrote: Munis are just your hometown wanting service just like residents, business and education. As soon as we learn this we will all benefit from it greatly. Public safety specifically is the killer application of muni broadband in my opinion. If we all learn how to sell this to our towns and service it correctly we will inevitably win in the end. Backhaul to munis who decide to go it alone is also an option. I would bet most if not all of them would pay for a service agreement on their networks also. Maybe they will pay you to build their network for them? Scriv Matt Liotta wrote: I personally don't much care for Muni wireless as I would rather the government stay out of the ISP business. With that being said, Rome, GA announced that GTS had won the the contract to install a wireless system for the city. See http://muniwireless.com/municipal/bids/1102/ for details on the announcement. What I thought the list might find interesting is that we (AirInfinite, now One Ring Networks) were included in GTS's bid and will now be providing backhaul for the wireless network. I believe this is an interesting approach for WISPs to take when dealing with munis that have an interest in wireless. -Matt -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
