Re: [WISPA] Powercode BMU NX216

[Kevin Neal]

If you want to void your warranty you can get a DC power supply like
http://www.mini-box.com/M4-ATX-HV?sc=8&category=981 that will power the
BMU.  You'll have to find a way to keep the power supply protected as it
won't fit into the case.


On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 11:34 AM, Roger Howard  wrote:

> I know the official answer from powercode is that in order to have a DC
> powered BMU, then you need to shell out $1995 for the GX266. My question
> is, is anyone familiar with the internals of the NX216? Can I void my
> warranty, take it apart, take out a AC-DC power supply, and wire it in
> directly to my DC plant? Like I can with say a Ubiquiti toughswitch?
>
> I don't have that many subscribers, so the GX266 is way overkill for me at
> the moment.
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Re: [WISPA] A puzzle for your enjoyment...

[Kevin Neal]

That's entertaining. I wonder how many this happened to...


-Kevin

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> Whats wrong?
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Re: [WISPA] IPV6 again?!?

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ehind the Mikrotik router. This is the same
>>> PC that works if I plug directly in.
>>>
>>> IPV6 Things do not appear to work as advertised when it comes to static
>>> configs.
>>>
>>> Is it just me or is anyone else running into this?
>>> If you solved it care to share?
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Re: [WISPA] choice of upstreams

[Kevin Neal]

Choices choices choices.Qwest out here, everything else, you pay
Qwest 2x to get to them.  360 Networks is breaking out some fiber here
soon though.

-Kevin




On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 10:07 AM, Marco Coelho  wrote:
> I'm a GigE circuit to the mix, and I've got a choice of:
>
> Abovenet
> Cogent
> Global Crossing
> Level3
> Savvis
>
> I'm looking for recommendations of who the better upstream is.
>
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Re: [WISPA] OT: Low Voltage Disconnect

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You can use this as an LVD only.  If your load is under 10amps.

http://www.mrsolar.com/page/MSOS/PROD/morningstar/SS-10L-24V


-Kevin



On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 11:53 AM, Jerry Richardson
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> Also, anything else that is lower cost that is reliable?
>
> Any AGM chargers that have LVD built in?
>
> How about using a standard charger with an outboard charge controller/LVD?
>
> Thanks
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> Subject: [WISPA] OT: Low Voltage Disconnect
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> Any comments on this unit?
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> http://www.tessco.com/products/displayProductInfo.do?sku=58646&eventPage=1
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Re: [WISPA] Verizon fiber

[Kevin Neal]

I was recently quoted $300,000 to break into a long-haul fiber route
(not Verizon), that was to cover the bulk of the equipment costs to
break in and then they could give me a good rate per megabyte.

-Kevin


On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 8:50 PM, John Valenti  wrote:
> I'm assuming this is hopeless, but somebody here can probably confirm:
>
> Verizon has fiber running down the dirt road that passes by a grain
> leg I'm using. (I'm told it was put in for 911 service to Bath, MI)
> Is it possible to have them tap into it and sell bulk bandwidth to
> me?  For less than 10s of thousand$?
>
> If it helps, there is a small concrete vault nearby that the fiber
> runs thru. The farmer says the cover has been left open on that for
> years. You can look in and see a metal can (about 8" by 2') that the
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Re: [WISPA] Verizon fiber

[Kevin Neal]

Did I mention I'd have to run 30+ miles of fiber just to get to this
pop they'd put in?

-Kevin


On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 9:14 PM, Nick Olsen  wrote:
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> poll's or underground.
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> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Verizon fiber
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> (not Verizon), that was to cover the bulk of the equipment costs to
> break in and then they could give me a good rate per megabyte.
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>> I'm assuming this is hopeless, but somebody here can probably confirm:
>>
>> Verizon has fiber running down the dirt road that passes by a grain
>> leg I'm using. (I'm told it was put in for 911 service to Bath, MI)
>> Is it possible to have them tap into it and sell bulk bandwidth to
>> me?  For less than 10s of thousand$?
>>
>> If it helps, there is a small concrete vault nearby that the fiber
>> runs thru. The farmer says the cover has been left open on that for
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Re: [WISPA] OSPF maximums

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I'm pretty sure the limit is just CPU/Memory.  We currently 112
routing entries in one of our networks, this is on a network with 24
OSPF routers.

-Kevin


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> For all of you routing gurus out there,   On MikroTiks version,  or any other 
> brand,  of OSPF what is the maximum number of routes or routers in a single 
> OSPF Area?  Is this only limitied by CPU/Memory or is there something else 
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Re: [WISPA] OT Question....

[Kevin Neal]

Does the wireless link by chance have the rapid port shutdown feature?
 If so, you may have a wireless link issue.

-Kevin


On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 8:14 AM, Bob Moldashel  wrote:
> Sorry guys. I know its a little OT but I am the RF guy, not the network
> guy. But its kind of on topic because its connected to a wireless link.  :-)
>
> What does this tell everybody???   Its from a Cisco 2960 switch.
>
> Oct 27 08:12:18.407 EST: %LINEPROTO-5-UPDOWN: Line protocol on Interface
> GigabitEthernet0/21, changed state to down
> Oct 27 08:12:19.455 EST: %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface GigabitEthernet0/21,
> changed state to down
> Oct 27 13:52:16.606 EST: %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface GigabitEthernet0/21,
> changed state to up
> Oct 27 13:52:18.661 EST: %LINEPROTO-5-UPDOWN: Line protocol on Interface
> GigabitEthernet0/21, changed state to up
> Oct 27 14:15:10.273 EST: %LINEPROTO-5-UPDOWN: Line protocol on Interface
> GigabitEthernet0/21, changed state to down
> Oct 27 14:15:11.314 EST: %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface GigabitEthernet0/21,
> changed state to down
> Oct 27 16:26:29.667 EST: %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface GigabitEthernet0/21,
> changed state to up
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Re: [WISPA] Who makes this Dual-Pol 5.8GHz 18dBi Panel?

[Kevin Neal]

Trango began life as Sunstream, they changed names way back.

-Kevin


On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 10:57 AM, Josh Luthman
 wrote:
> The back looks a little different for a Trango but otherwise it looks
> identical.  I think Sunstream made the antennas for them a long time ago,
> but now Trango makes their own.  I took a few apart in the last couple of
> years.
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>> Right.  These aren't/weren't Trango.  We bought just the antenna itself,
>> and
>> put MikroTik inside it.
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 10:27 AM, Mike Goicoechea > >wrote:
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>> > Rick,
>> > I think he is asking on just the antennas themselves. I do not believe
>> > trango manufactured the antenna element and enclosure. A customer of ours
>> > has a closet full of damaged Trango radios that were well out of
>> warrantee
>> > (not at all bashing trango, static and surge happens.). We have wondered
>> if
>> > we can utilize the antennas/enclosures for MTK type cpe. Has anyone tried
>> > that with success?
>> >
>> > Mike Goicoechea
>> > m...@cielosystems.net
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>> > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>> > Behalf Of RickG
>> > Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 11:03 AM
>> > To: WISPA General List
>> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Who makes this Dual-Pol 5.8GHz 18dBi Panel?
>> >
>> > That would be a Trango 5800 series unit.
>> >
>> >
>> http://www.trangobroadband.com/wireless-products/multipoint-broadband-access
>> > /Access5830-System.aspx<
>> http://www.trangobroadband.com/wireless-products/multipoint-broadband-access%0A/Access5830-System.aspx
>> >
>> > The better question is it an AP or CPE? The only way to tell is to log
>> into
>> > it.
>> > -RickG
>> >
>> > On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 11:31 AM, Jayson Baker > > >wrote:
>> >
>> > > We have a couple of these, that I think we bought from Titan Wireless
>> > years
>> > > ago.  They don't work well for simualtaneous dual-pol operation, but
>> > having
>> > > the ability to switch back and forth is excellent.  They look kinda
>> like
>> > > what Trango was using, I think.  Anyone else use them, or know who
>> makes
>> > > them, or where we could buy a couple more?
>> > >
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Re: [WISPA] Cat3 instead of Cat5

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With the right equipment I've heard of gigabit over rusted old barbwire!

-Kevin


On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 7:32 PM, RickG  wrote:
> 100Mbps on cat 3? Really?
>
> On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 4:12 PM, Forbes Mercy
> wrote:
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>> We currently run a Cat5 into the wall then put a jack into the house.
>> My question is since you can get 100MB through a Cat3 which is the same
>> as a phone line why can't we run the connection into their phone line?
>> Most of our customers have cell phone only and their internal wiring is
>> virtually unused.
>>
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Re: [WISPA] RadWin 2000 5.8

[Kevin Neal]

I would rather see a web or command line instead of anything you have
to install.  OS independent then, as long as they don't write it
specifically for IE :(

-Kevin


On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 6:00 AM,   wrote:
> As a Mac OS X/Windows/Linux user (OS X natively and Windows, Linux under 
> Fusion) I'd like to see the configuration apps be universal (Java?) or 
> something cross platform. But I realize you can't fight city hall. So I'll 
> always have Fusion for a small handful of apps (Mapwel, Dude, WinBox).
>
> Greg
>
> On Nov 24, 2009, at 7:54 AM, Steve Barnes wrote:
>
>> Josh, you are correct we are not the same person.  I live in a world that 
>> windows is operated on 90% on all business computers.  I don't live in a 
>> world of nirvana that I can use just linux and life is good.  Besides if I 
>> was programming an app that I wanted to reach the majority of computers why 
>> would I program for just linux.  I would program for the standard.  More to 
>> the point, my review was not to hack the OS of the computer the software 
>> needed to be installed on it, it was for the equipment.  I don't feel your 
>> comments help anyone and put a shadow over a good product.
>>
>> The RadWin 2000 product is easy to configure but as Josh has pointed out you 
>> must use a windows computer to configure it.
>>
>> Steve Barnes
>> RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
>> Behalf Of Josh Luthman
>> Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 5:27 PM
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>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] RadWin 2000 5.8
>>
>>> Software easy to use
>>
>> Is this the Windows only RadWin stuff still?  Not sure how in the world you
>> could call that thing easy to use, but we are not the same person.
>>
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>>
>> On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 5:15 PM, Steve Barnes  wrote:
>>
>>> Since we are giving recommendations I just had a RadWin 2000 FDX Link put
>>> up and with 2- 2ft FDX PacWireless Dishes.  The Link is 18.2 miles. -62 both
>>> ends.  Can push 42 Mbps FDX using TCP Bandwidth test on Mtiks on both ends.
>>> Link extremely stable <$4000. Software easy to use. Radios so easy to setup
>>> I called Tech support and asked what I forgot.  Very happy.  Replaced
>>> frustrating StarOS FDX that gave me about 10 Mbps.
>>>
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>>> RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service
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Re: [WISPA] FreeBSD hackers.... Needed for WISP related product...

[Kevin Neal]

But I also have a few scripts that will make all of the changes I
need, sans the SSID, Frequency, IP address.  There is still a little
bit of a learning curve, but for the basic setups you don't have to
teach them more than the variables.

-Kevin


On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 7:05 AM, Robert West  wrote:
> But that's the same complaints a lot of people have when comparing the
> legacy UBNT and MT.  UBNT is basically plug and play while MT is virtually
> limitless on your configuration options.  I can train even my wife to
> install a backhaul and could do it within an hour but the complexity of
> Mikrotik adds significantly to the learning curve.  If you want quick and
> easy, plug and play, Ubiquiti.  Complexity, MT.
>
> But I'm not meaning to discourage you whatsoever.  It's the little guy in
> the corner who comes up with real innovation.  The big guys tend to swoop
> down and claim it once it looks good.  :)
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of MDK
> Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 12:57 AM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] FreeBSD hackers Needed for WISP related product...
>
> Actually, it's far better than cost-effective.
>
> It's flexible, in both hardware and capabilities.    Firewall, routing,
> routing daemons, and other things.
>
> Frankly, I find the physical aspects of the Airmax stuff frustratingly
> limited.
>
> I've grown fond of my immense ability to do creative stuff with Star-OS and
> a wide array of physical forms - especially since much of my network relies
> on low power consumption.
>
> AirMax, deployed as an AP and clients...  seems ok.    But that's only a
> small part of a good network.
>
>
>
>
> --
> From: "Jayson Baker" 
> Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 8:51 PM
> To: "WISPA General List" 
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] FreeBSD hackers Needed for WISP related product...
>
>> Availability is supposedly resolved.  We'll see.
>>
>> Routing... there is a full SDK.  You can do anything you want on those
>> things.  The new ones have 400+MHz proc's, plenty to do some
>> routing/firewalling.
>>
>> I just can't see a home grown solution like you're proposing being
>> cost-effective.  We spent about 2 months on a project just like this, and
>> started to have some pretty awesome performance and results.
>>
>> Then UBNT stuff came out.
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 9:39 PM, MDK  wrote:
>>
>>> Given UBNT's  record of unavailability of product, and the inability to
>>> route via the interface, I vastly prefer this to UBNT's products.
>>>
>>> Now, mind you, I'm not really putting them down, but this is an excellent
>>> infrastructure tool...    Routing and other capabilities that vastly
>>> exceed
>>> some better known...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> From: "Jayson Baker" 
>>> Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 8:25 PM
>>> To: "WISPA General List" 
>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] FreeBSD hackers Needed for WISP related
>>> product...
>>>
>>> > Is there really much need for this, given the new AirMax product line?
>>> > I'm just saying...
>>> >
>>> > On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 9:19 PM, MDK  wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> What would you call a totally proprietary,  TDMA based protocol,
>>> >> without
>>> >> ACK
>>> >> or CSMA?
>>> >>
>>> >> Doesn't look a whole lot like 802.11x, but if you wish to say it is,
>>> >> then,
>>> >> for you it is :)
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> --
>>> >> From: "Travis Johnson" 
>>> >> Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 7:36 PM
>>> >> To: "WISPA General List" 
>>> >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] FreeBSD hackers Needed for WISP related
>>> >> product...
>>> >>
>>> >> > If you are using Atheros based hardware, it's still 802.11...
>>> >> > regardless
>>> >> > of what software you put on top of it.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Travis
>>> >> > Microserv
>>> >> >
>>> >> > MDK wrote:
>>> >> >> If you're a WISP and have interest in using commodity - off the
>>> >> >> shelf -
>>> >> >> Atheros based hardware to achieve higher than ethernet speeds over
>>> >> >> wireless...     This is not a tweak of 802.11, it is a completely
>>> >> >> different
>>> >> >> mode...
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> There is currently an opportunity to do so, where most of the work
>>> has
>>> >> >> been
>>> >> >> done by various others in the FreeBSd community, but it is not
>>> >> integrated
>>> >> >> or
>>> >> >> packaged as a useful WISP product, and that's what needs to be
>>> >> >> done.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> This does not need to result in an open source release, due to the
>>> >> >> relaxed
>>> >> >> BSD license.     Or, it can.   But I'm looking for some people who
>>> >> >> have
>>> >> >> experience with freebsd, and have an interest in integrating what
>>> >> >> could
>>> >> >> be
>>> >> >> an awesome performing product using inexpensive commodity hardware.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> email me at pda  at neofast dot n

Re: [WISPA] wireless mysteries

[Kevin Neal]

Hrm...disturbed the cable run(s) on the way up?  Orwireless card
in your laptop.

-Kevin

On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 10:02 AM, Randy Cosby  wrote:
> Here's a fun one I had the other day.
>
> I have several Trango AP's and 2 Mikrotik backhauls on a water tank.  I
> am making some upgrades to one of the backhaul links (better wireless
> card).  I head up to the top of the tank, take out my laptop, plug it in
> to the switch up there and boot up.  I head for the first backhaul and
> before I even open the enclosure, I start getting alerts (SMS messages)
> about BOTH of my backhaul links having problems.  I haven't touched
> anything on them yet.
>
> Figured out the problem and fixed it within about 20 minutes.  Any
> guesses what the problem was?  Interested to see what everyone would
> suspect first.
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Re: [WISPA] wireless mysteries

[Kevin Neal]

Were you in front of the backhauls?

-Kevin


On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 10:29 AM, Randy Cosby  wrote:
> One more clue.  The problem was RF related (links dropping) but was not
> due to the laptop wifi.
>
> Randy
>
>
> Josh Luthman wrote:
>> IP address conflict couldn't take both MTs down unless it way the gateway.
>>
>> Josh Luthman
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>> Direct: 937-552-2343
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>> --- Albert Einstein
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 12:10 PM, Kurt Fankhauser  wrote:
>>
>>
>>> I say something with your switch when you plugged your laptop into the
>>> network.
>>>
>>> Kurt Fankhauser
>>> WAVELINC
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>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>>> Behalf Of Randy Cosby
>>> Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 12:02 PM
>>> To: WISPA General List
>>> Subject: [WISPA] wireless mysteries
>>>
>>> Here's a fun one I had the other day.
>>>
>>> I have several Trango AP's and 2 Mikrotik backhauls on a water tank.  I
>>> am making some upgrades to one of the backhaul links (better wireless
>>> card).  I head up to the top of the tank, take out my laptop, plug it in
>>> to the switch up there and boot up.  I head for the first backhaul and
>>> before I even open the enclosure, I start getting alerts (SMS messages)
>>> about BOTH of my backhaul links having problems.  I haven't touched
>>> anything on them yet.
>>>
>>> Figured out the problem and fixed it within about 20 minutes.  Any
>>> guesses what the problem was?  Interested to see what everyone would
>>> suspect first.
>>>
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>>> Vice President
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Re: [WISPA] health insurance

[Kevin Neal]

Call me cheap I guess.  I have a $229/mo plan for my family of 4 (5 in
a week or so).  $7500 deductible.  Next year my rate will drop, after
the insurance company re-rates their HSA rates I'll be moving to the
$10,000 deductible plan, that will be an absolutely no benefits until
10k is paid.  I don't mind it, I'd rather not have to pay the extra
per month.

Just a quick comparison, if I pay $229/mo vs $650/mo, if I max my
deductible for the year I pay $1698 more than Marlon, but if I only
hit $750, I saved $5052.  I'd rather put money in the bank and have it
work for me than giving it to an insurance company.

-Kevin



On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 10:16 PM, Marlon K. Schafer  
wrote:
> Here in Wa. it's $650ish for me and the three kids.  $750 deductable per
> person.
>
> The wife's is covered by her work.
>
> No dental and a crappy vision plan.
>
> What we are missing is competition in the medical industry.  It's got TOO
> much government interference and no lawsuit protection.
>
> marlon
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Travis Johnson" 
> To: ; "WISPA General List" 
> Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 8:05 PM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] health insurance
>
>
>> A... now we know it's Florida that is causing everyone else's
>> insurance rates to go up... :)
>>
>> We pay about $700/month to cover an entire family (this is just health
>> insurance, the dental and vision is extra).
>>
>> Travis
>> Microserv
>>
>> Faisal Imtiaz wrote:
>>> As a business owner, in Florida, where the Health Insurance is one of the
>>> highest in the US, we have seeing 15-20% increses every year for the last
>>> few years.
>>>
>>> It is nice to see that you offer 100% health insurance coverage for all
>>> of
>>> your Employees, where the company is picking up the Tab for the Insurance
>>> Premiums.
>>>
>>> Simply for the sake of my understanding, why would you choose to
>>>
>>>  " force us to go to a subcontractor type work-force (at least for 5-10
>>> of
>>> our current employees) to get us under the 25 employee limit and . "
>>> offer less benefits for everyone in the company "
>>>
>>> At the end of the day, $412 / employee is not a whole lot of money,
>>> especially when you are talking about a benfit like Health
>>> Insurance...
>>> If you are looking to have some means of off-setting the additional $$$,
>>> would'nt it me easier and better for everyone if you reduced your Company
>>> provided 100% coverage to let's say 90%, and have the Employee pay the
>>> other
>>> 10% ?
>>>
>>>
>>> What are your current costs for Health Insurnace ?   We are seeing
>>> typically
>>> $300-$400 / month for a single male, and $1300-$1450 /month for a family
>>>
>>> >From what we have been seeing in the last few years, including our
>>> >present
>>> coverage increase (approx $8100/year for 3 families)... $412 /year
>>> increase
>>> would be a Blessing and a Christmas present...
>>>
>>> ---
>>>
>>> Just a thought.
>>>
>>>
>>> Faisal Imtiaz
>>> Computer Office Solutions Inc. /SnappyDSL.net
>>> Ph: (305) 663-5518 x 232
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>>> Behalf Of Travis Johnson
>>> Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 7:50 PM
>>> To: WISPA General List
>>> Subject: [WISPA] health insurance
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> What are everyone else's plans if this new health insurance plan gets
>>> passed
>>> in Congress? We fall in the 25-100 employee category, so they are
>>> estimating
>>> our health insurance costs would go up $412 per employee for us (we
>>> already
>>> cover 100% of the costs for our employees). So, basically this would
>>> force
>>> us to go to a subcontractor type work-force (at least for 5-10 of our
>>> current employees) to get us under the 25 employee limit and offer less
>>> benefits for everyone in the company.
>>>
>>> Once again, it seems our government is stepping in where it doesn't
>>> belong.
>>> Either take over the health care system 100% (including funding it), or
>>> leave it alone.
>>>
>>> Travis
>>> Microserv
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Re: [WISPA] Testing radios

[Kevin Neal]

We usually just test a few miles from a tower.  A laptop, canopy,
extension cord, spare parts and tools.  It's not soo much fun in
winter weather, but we make sure that signals are within 3-5 db of
each other.  We know what we should be getting from our test location,
we also run a 30 second bandwidth test as well.

-Kevin


On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 2:43 PM, Kristian Hoffmann  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> We tend to get radios back from techs with notes that say something like
> "bad radio" or "low signal."  Things that aren't obviously broken tend
> to sit around and collect dust.
>
> Does anyone have a efficient way to test 802.11a/b/g radios?  Most of
> our equipment is MikroTik, so my plan was to do a conductive test
> between a known good radio and the radio in question with 80 dB or so of
> attenuator stacked between them, check the rx signal on both ends, and
> run a bw test for a set amount of time.  Is there anything else that I
> should take into consideration, or perhaps a completely different
> approach?
>
> I was looking at these attenuators...
>
> http://www.minicircuits.com/pdfs/UNAT-30+.pdf
>
> I don't think precision is really an issue as long as they're consistent
> from one test to another.
>
> Thanks,
>
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> System Administrator
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Re: [WISPA] Fwd: OT - Glad I Didn't Buy an iPhone

[Kevin Neal]

I'd like to just not have to reboot my phone every time I want to
check my visual voicemail or get online.AT&T sucks around here, so
far.  Voice is ok, datamuch to be desired.

-Kevin


On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 7:37 PM, Jeremie Chism  wrote:
> I think droid is definitely going to be the way to go considering
> apple has to approve everything before it is "allowed".  But at the
> time when the iPhone first came out it was a big leap forward.
> Especially being able to telnet into our routers and make changes or
> remotely reboot cpe units. Also logmein on iPhone is a great help. It
> has gotten to where I don't think I could be without. I start
> experiencing withdrawal after about an hour.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
>> From: Jack Unger 
>> Date: January 6, 2010 4:11:34 PM CST
>> To: WISPA General List 
>> Subject: [WISPA] OT - Glad I Didn't Buy an iPhone
>> Reply-To: WISPA General List 
>>
>
>> Thank God I'm not addicted to rushing out and buying the latest
>> consumer
>> gadget.
>>
>> If I HAD rushed out and bought an iPhone, I would not be able to rush
>> out now and buy one of these great new Sumsing Turbo 3000s !
>>
>> 
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Re: [WISPA] OT - Glad I Didn't Buy an iPhone

[Kevin Neal]

You would think so, but when I go to a bigger city, it performs flawlessly.

-Kevin


On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 10:49 PM, Josh Luthman
 wrote:
> Kevin - that's your phones fault, not AT&T.  As much as I hate admitting that.
>
> VVM works on the latest update of the Bold.
>
> On 1/7/10, Kevin Neal  wrote:
>> I'd like to just not have to reboot my phone every time I want to
>> check my visual voicemail or get online.AT&T sucks around here, so
>> far.  Voice is ok, datamuch to be desired.
>>
>> -Kevin
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 7:37 PM, Jeremie Chism  wrote:
>>> I think droid is definitely going to be the way to go considering
>>> apple has to approve everything before it is "allowed".  But at the
>>> time when the iPhone first came out it was a big leap forward.
>>> Especially being able to telnet into our routers and make changes or
>>> remotely reboot cpe units. Also logmein on iPhone is a great help. It
>>> has gotten to where I don't think I could be without. I start
>>> experiencing withdrawal after about an hour.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>>
>>>> From: Jack Unger 
>>>> Date: January 6, 2010 4:11:34 PM CST
>>>> To: WISPA General List 
>>>> Subject: [WISPA] OT - Glad I Didn't Buy an iPhone
>>>> Reply-To: WISPA General List 
>>>>
>>>
>>>> Thank God I'm not addicted to rushing out and buying the latest
>>>> consumer
>>>> gadget.
>>>>
>>>> If I HAD rushed out and bought an iPhone, I would not be able to rush
>>>> out now and buy one of these great new Sumsing Turbo 3000s !
>>>>
>>>> <http://www.flixxy.com/sumsing-turbo-3000-cellphone.htm>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>> Since 1993
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Re: [WISPA] anyone know this ROHN tower?

[Kevin Neal]

http://www.rohnnet.com/rohn-ssv-self-supporting-towers

On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 8:59 AM, Kurt Fankhauser  wrote:
> Does anyone know this ROHN SSV tower? I can't find the thing on ROHN's
> website anywhere. I can pick one up brand new still unbolted with base bolts
> and everything for $13,000. May even be able to get it a little cheaper.
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Re: [WISPA] Private fiber deployments

[Kevin Neal]

Depending on the speed they want, and if they own the phone lines,
what about a mini-dslam and DSL modems?

-Kevin


On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 11:27 AM, MDK  wrote:
> I have a situation where a rural housing development (very rural, up in the
> mountains, far far from town, heavily wooded) is wanting broadband, and it
> seems to me that the best way would be to wire these guys up.   I have 900
> gear onsite, but the fact that the area is steep, rugged, and heavily
> timbered, means I can't get even 900 to work well in it.
>
> When the original owner/developer started this thing, he put in underground
> power and phones to some of it, and some of it's in the air.
>
> The roads are not county property, they are owned by the HOA that runs the
> development.    Anyone familiar with what legal entanglements and
> requirements are involved in stringing fiber?   I would need to run about
> 1-2 miles, at absolute most, and it would pass 30 to 40 homes / yet
> undeveloped lots.
>
> Where do I look for best practices for build out, who's done this kind of
> stuff?
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> Any input or experiences with this appreciated.
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Re: [WISPA] How many switches can do RSTP?

[Kevin Neal]

We are using a routed backbone with Mikrotik's OSPF. We have Mikrotik
working without problems with product from ImageStream, Cisco, and Juniper.
I haven't tried anything MPLS yet, we've been too busy to experiment with
it.

The only troubles I've ran into with Mikrotik OSPF has been the occasional
reboot required when we have a backhaul link flapping constantly, as well as
some problems with some redundant customer routing.  We have several
customers that are paying extra for redundant links, we are giving them a
/30 and installing a Mikrotik router with OSPF running.  We've had a time or
two where our normal traffic would route through their connection instead of
our backbone(not sure why), but that was fixed when we started filtering the
advertised routes.

I don't remember who it was, but about two years ago I visited with a WISP
that was running several thousand customers on a bridged network (STP IIRC).
They were using the MAC dst-nat functionality to forward all broadcasts to
their PPPoE server at one end of the network, they said it was working very
well for them.

-Kevin Neal
Safelink Internet



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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Paolo Di Francesco
Sent: Friday, January 23, 2009 9:44 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] How many switches can do RSTP?

just coming back to the original topic:

is everybody using routed backbone or somebody is playing with the
switched/mpls thing? :)

Thank you
> Dear All
> 
> I am wondering how many switches can be put together in a bridged 
> environment (via radio-bridges) with the Rapid STP. Just curious 
> because I did not find anywhere the maximum number and wondering if 
> the backbone collapse after 10 or 100 or 1000 switches.
> Also wondering what do you advice, I know that not all the switches 
> are the same... (thinking about HP for this application)
> 
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Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle

[Kevin Neal]

Any faster than 80 mph and you get stopped, then you just lost way more time
than you would have gained from speeding.

Kevin
Safelink Internet


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 8:15 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle

I thought it should go faster too.  ;-)

I don't know what year Travis's truck is, but a variant of one of these
ought to help that 80 mph limitation.

http://bankspower.com/products/show/43/3


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From: "RickG" 
Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 11:16 PM
To: "WISPA General List" 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle

> I believe the 8mpg but 80mph?
> -RickG
>
> On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 9:33 PM, Travis Johnson  wrote:
>> If it makes you feel better, today we only got 8mpg while pulling our 
>> sno-cat (with a Duramax even) at 80mph down the freeway. ;)
>>
>> Travis
>> Microserv
>>
>> Mark Nash wrote:
>>
>> LOL I was just thinking about revitalizing this thread as I was 
>> speeding across our valley here because one of our techs called in 
>> sick.  Had 4 appointments to keep...about 120 miles to cover...
>>
>> ...and MY service truck is an F350/V10 - crew cab - full bed.
>>
>> ...I get 10 on a good day. :)
>>
>> Mark Nash
>> UnwiredWest
>> 78 Centennial Loop
>> Suite E
>> Eugene, OR 97401
>> 541-998-
>> 541-998-5599 fax
>> http://www.unwiredwest.com
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181" 
>> To: "WISPA General List" 
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 8:44 AM
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> fyi, it's not a van...
>>
>> http://www.leasetrader.com/photos/actual98286/640x480/GMC-Envoy-XL-Sp
>> ort-Utility.jpeg
>>
>> I wanted a red or blue one with a v8 (327 and those one's HAUL).  
>> Had to settle for a completely loaded white one though.  Leather, DVD 
>> for the kids, heated seats and seat backs, blinkers on the mirrors, 
>> air ride suspension (this rig rides better than any car I've ever 
>> had) etc.  It's also nearly a foot and a half longer than the 
>> standard version.  So when you get one make sure you look for the one 
>> with the 3rd seat.
>>
>> http://shop.ebay.com/items/_W0QQ_dmptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5f
>> Accessories?_nkw=gmc+envoy+xl&_sacat=0&_fromfsb=&_trksid=m270.l1313&_
>> odkw=gmc+envoy&_osacat=0
>>
>> These are the same thing as the Chevy Trailblazer.
>>
>> The XUV version looks pretty interesting too.  I ALMOST got one of 
>> them, didn't like the sales guy though so I walked out on the deal.
>>
>> http://www.familycar.com/RoadTests/GMC-XUV/Photos.htm
>>
>> They have some of those on ebay too:
>> http://shop.ebay.com/items/__xuv?_trkparms=72%253A317%257C66%253A2%25
>> 7C65%253A12%257C39%253A1&_dmpt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&_tr
>> ksid=p3286.c0.m14&_pgn=2
>>
>> laters,
>> Marlon
>> (509) 982-2181
>> (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services
>> 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since
>> 1999!
>> o...@odessaoffice.com
>> www.odessaoffice.com/wireless
>> www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam
>>
>>
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Josh Luthman" 
>> To: "WISPA General List" 
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 11:13 AM
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> If we could get a van like that financed I would be in heaven - my 
>> main benefit is just as you said, everything stays warm.  Steel and 
>> cold just do not mix.
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly.
>> --- Henry Spencer
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 1:18 PM, Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 < 
>> o...@odessaoffice.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> I just picked up an '04 GMC Envoy XL.  It's the one with the 3rd seat.
>> I'm
>> only getting 16 to 17 mpg with it but it's cheap to insure and is 
>> totally loaded.  It was just over $13k for a 50,000 mile rig with no 
>> real flaws.
>> I
>> did end up having to replace the radiator already, but that didn't 
>> show up at first.
>>
>> The ladder sits on top nicely and is easy to reach.  Everything else 
>> sits well inside.  As a bonus all of my tools etc. stay warm in the 
>> winter and cold in the summer.
>>
>> The 4 wheel drive has been really nice this winter too.
>>
>> Best of all?  No one else drives around with a ladder on top of one.
>> EVERYONE knows my rig.  That alone is a nice sales too.
>>
>> Marlon
>> (509) 982-2181
>> (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services
>> 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since
>> 1999!
>> o...@odessaoffice.com
>> www.odessaoffice.com/wireless
>> www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam
>>
>>
>>
>> - Original Message -

Re: [WISPA] Another online backup thread

[Kevin Neal]

We have RBS setup, the product as a whole is unrefined and cumbersome, but
they do have some nice features.  I haven't experimented with any other
software, so I don't know what else is out there.

Their BitBackup requires local storage of a database, so if you're backing
up 50G of data for a customer, they better have an extra 50G of hard drive
space for the local copy.  We've just gone to selling them an external USB
drive when they signup.  As well as doing the initial dump to an external
drive then copy it direct to the server when we get back to the office.

-Kevin Neal
 

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Dylan Bouterse
Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 1:59 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Another online backup thread

IMO stay as far away from remote-backup.com's product as possible. We bought
into their front and it turned out to be a very unrefined product that was
cumbersome to install on the customer side and their support was practically
non-existent. I've heard of other people having success with RBS but we
dropped it and wrote off our losses after much frustration.

Dylan

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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 3:40 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Another online backup thread

I'm looking at remote-backup.com.  It seems to be what I'm looking for, but
I'd like to know what other, similar options are out there.

It must not be cumbersome for either myself or the client.
It must have encryption at all levels (transport and storage).
It must have sold online backup in mind, not an enterprise backup program.
It must work on Windows clients, hopefully Linux clients too.


-
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Re: [WISPA] Custom Rackmount Enclosures?

[Kevin Neal]

You can try XCEL Outsourcing (http://xceloutsourcing.com/).  They are more
into doing appliance type setups but they do make custom enclosures for
customers.

-Kevin


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Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 9:04 AM
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Subject: [WISPA] Custom Rackmount Enclosures?

Anyone know of a metal fab to make some custom 1u enclosures for Mikrotik
Routerboards?
 

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Re: [WISPA] is this router overloaded?

[Kevin Neal]

Is this doing any NAT?  Is connection tracking enabled?  Do you have all
unneeded packages disabled?  We have a few RB600's out there and they do
fine for the most part, we don't do any wireless on the 600's and all of
them have the 564 daughterboard in them.

-Kevin Neal



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Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 12:50 PM
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Subject: [WISPA] is this router overloaded?

I have a RB600 here that I've taken a screenshot of. No interfaces are
bridged, everything is routed and I'm noticing some lag in the traffic that
passes though this device during peak use. I suspect that the 41 RIP routes
might have something to do with it as actual throughput isn't that much
sometimes topping out around 8Mbps. Just want to hear from others and if
there is any suggestions on how I might speed this up let me know. CPU usage
on it is around 40-50%.

 

 

 

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WAVELINC
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Re: [WISPA] 802.11 a, b, g "booster"

[Kevin Neal]

The WRE54G is out of stock at Newegg, also, don't count on saving much on
larger orders.  We order WRT54GL's, the biggest discount we got was 5% when
we ordered 150 of them, and they won't do that anymore.

-Kevin
 

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Behalf Of 3-dB Networks
Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 11:09 AM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 802.11 a, b, g "booster"

Here is the Linksys solution:
http://www.linksysbycisco.com/US/en/products/WRE54G

Looks like its $100 MSRP... I bet you could purchase them in larger orders
for cheaper to resell though.  But it plugs straight into the outlet...
small form factor.  Not 802.11a though.

Daniel White
3-dB Networks
http://www.3dbnetworks.com


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>From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
>Behalf Of Dennis Burgess - LTI
>Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 11:02 AM
>To: aosg...@streamline-solutions.net; WISPA General List
>Subject: Re: [WISPA] 802.11 a, b, g "booster"
>
>RouterOS.  We can ship it configured to connect to your AP and 
>rebroadcast :)  This is the simplest way.  We can do this with MESH 
>setups, routed or bridged :)
>
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>(preferably) self
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>A, B,
>> and G)
>>
>>
>>
>> Suggestions?
>>
>>
>>
>> Aaron D. Osgood
>>
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Re: [WISPA] 802.11 a, b, g "booster"

[Kevin Neal]

I have found Ingram Micro to be more expensive than Newegg every time, with
the exception of that 5% off we got.  This is only on Linksys gear, we have
had too many problems with D-Link, Netgear, Belkin etc  We standardized
on only selling the WRT54GL anymore.  Charge the customer $90 installed,
we'll replace it and handle the RMA during the first year.  Once we explain
that we've found these to be the best bang for the buck most customers will
purchase them.

-Kevin.

 

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Behalf Of 3-dB Networks
Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 1:36 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 802.11 a, b, g "booster"

I wouldn't count on a discount from a reseller like Newegg... go to one of
the distributors like Ingram Micro...  there are four options:
http://www.linksysbycisco.com/US/en/wheretobuy

When I had my own company as a side job thing I had an account with a disty
(I can't recall who) so I could get better pricing on D-link gear... made it
so I could sell it much cheaper to my end users (granted Best Buy et. Al.
also got those mail in rebates which I didn't... so they could work out in
the long run being cheaper on a one/two scale) 

Daniel White
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>-Original Message-
>From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
>Behalf Of Kevin Neal
>Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 1:31 PM
>To: 'WISPA General List'
>Subject: Re: [WISPA] 802.11 a, b, g "booster"
>
>The WRE54G is out of stock at Newegg, also, don't count on saving much 
>on larger orders.  We order WRT54GL's, the biggest discount we got was 
>5% when we ordered 150 of them, and they won't do that anymore.
>
>-Kevin
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
>Behalf Of 3-dB Networks
>Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 11:09 AM
>To: 'WISPA General List'
>Subject: Re: [WISPA] 802.11 a, b, g "booster"
>
>Here is the Linksys solution:
>http://www.linksysbycisco.com/US/en/products/WRE54G
>
>Looks like its $100 MSRP... I bet you could purchase them in larger 
>orders for cheaper to resell though.  But it plugs straight into the 
>outlet...
>small form factor.  Not 802.11a though.
>
>Daniel White
>3-dB Networks
>http://www.3dbnetworks.com
>
>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] 
>>On Behalf Of Dennis Burgess - LTI
>>Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 11:02 AM
>>To: aosg...@streamline-solutions.net; WISPA General List
>>Subject: Re: [WISPA] 802.11 a, b, g "booster"
>>
>>RouterOS.  We can ship it configured to connect to your AP and 
>>rebroadcast :)  This is the simplest way.  We can do this with MESH 
>>setups, routed or bridged :)
>>
>>* ---
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>>Member
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>>& WISP Support Services WISPA Vendor Member*
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>>>
>>>
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>>>
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Re: [WISPA] Realtime Geographic Visualization of Network

[Kevin Neal]

For backbone links we do this already with PHP Weathermap.  Monitor your
backhaul signal/throughput/ping time etc with an snmp package that stores it
in rrd files, then make your map in weathermap and point to the right rrd
files for that node/links information.

http://www.network-weathermap.com/

-Kevin
 

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Jayson Baker
Sent: Sunday, May 03, 2009 4:00 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Realtime Geographic Visualization of Network

How much would you pay for something like this?

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Re: [WISPA] Fiber/Copper Combo Wire

[Kevin Neal]

So..what about this...get an adjustable voltage power supply.  Install the
RG6 or whatever coax/wire would handle the load/distance.  Adjust the
voltage with a meter up top so that you have ~24-28v at your equipment?

-Kevin
 

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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of David Hulsebus
Sent: Friday, May 08, 2009 2:59 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Fiber/Copper Combo Wire

Ive used RG8 coax in the past to deliver 24V DC to about 600ft, but not at
1500ft. RG6 has significantly less loss over distance than 24AWG wire.

Dave Hulsebus

Scott Reed wrote:
> Belden makes this, but I don't have a number for it.
>
> I would be really cautious if they are running 1500' single run for 
> POE.  Need to do the voltage loss calculation to be sure to use the 
> correct power supply.
>
> Jeff Broadwick wrote:
>   
>>  
>> Hi All,
>>
>> One of my customers is looking for these critters for a 1500 foot tower.
>> Gig fiber for the data, copper for POE.
>>
>> Any ideas?
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Jeff
>> ImageStream
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Re: [WISPA] OSPF question

[Kevin Neal]

Yes you can.

-Kevin
 

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Gino Villarini
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2009 1:41 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] OSPF question

Can I have several neighboors under the same interface?
 
I have a OSPF neighboor in ether1, can I have another neighboor with the
same area on the same interface?
 

Gino A. Villarini
g...@aeronetpr.com
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 
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Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik OSPF question

[Kevin Neal]

Subject changed to help with filters. :)

Do you have both /30's in the networks tab?  Look at the Neighbors tab, do
you see the second router listed there?  If so add the Adjacency and State
columns to your view, what state does it say it's in?  

-Kevin
 

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Gino Villarini
Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 4:58 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] OSPF question

 
Well I have 1 "Main Router" with 2 peers on the same Eth port, I receive
routes from 1, but not from the 2nd.  Im using the same area for both,
different networks (2 /30)

All are Mt 3.23 with routing test, the only difference is that the 2
exchanging routes are rb1000, the other one is a x86 machine

Gino A. Villarini
g...@aeronetpr.com
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
tel  787.273.4143   fax   787.273.4145

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Behalf Of Butch Evans
Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 12:35 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] OSPF question

On Mon, 2009-05-11 at 15:40 -0400, Gino Villarini wrote:
> Can I have several neighboors under the same interface?

Yes.
 
> I have a OSPF neighboor in ether1, can I have another neighboor with 
> the same area on the same interface?

This is common for a broadcast network, actually.  What is it that makes you
ask?  Are you seeing problems and wanting to clarify if this is a symptom of
the problem?

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Re: [WISPA] [WISP] 900 PtP

[Kevin Neal]

A Supersoaker full of gasoline and a match would make quick work of
trees..still haven't tried it yet.
-Kevin


On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 11:01 AM, Blair Davis  wrote:

>  I like my 30 year old Johnsred...
>
>
> Marlon K. Schafer wrote:
>
> LOL
>
> I don't have a Stihl.  I have a Pulan and an Echo though!  hehehehe
>
> It would sure be nice to be able to do that!
> marlon
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Rick Harnish"  
> To: "'WISPA General List'"  
> Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 9:09 AM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] [WISP] 900 PtP
>
>
>
>
>  Have you tried the MS 880 STIHL MagnumT Chain Saw.  It will do wonders for
> link integrity! :)
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
> ] On
> Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
> Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 11:28 AM
> To: w...@part-15.org
> Cc: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] [WISP] 900 PtP
>
>
>
>
>
>
>  Have you tried going H rather than V or vicea-versa ?
>
>
>  Yes.
>
>
>
>  Try a ptp 900mhz at that range or to much noise for it ?
>
>
>  Not detecting any.  Could be a phone or something though.  Something that
> comes and goes.  This really seemed to start with a change in the weather
> though.
>
>
>
>  Try something other than Trango ?
>
>
>  Haven't tried that yet.
>
> I no have an option of building a two hope ptp link via a third location.
> This would allow me to go around the trees all together, but it would also
> introduce another point of failure.  The best part?  There are only 15
> subs
> off of this system, I'm not sure how much I'm willing to spend here just
> yet.  Especially since we end up with so much lightning damage every year
> (no way around it, we already have all the protection we can get).  This
> is
> in a huge storm corridor.
>
> marlon
>
>
>
>  -- Original Message --
> From: "Marlon K. Schafer"  
> Reply-To: w...@part-15.org
> Date:  Tue, 2 Jun 2009 22:09:33 -0700
>
>
>
>  I have a trango link that's only giving me 2 megs.  Sometimes much less.
> The link is 2.3 or so miles.  There are TWO pine trees in the way.
>
> What would you guys use?  I need to get more speed to the remote tower.
>
> thanks,
> marlon
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "RickG"  
> To:  
> Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 8:47 PM
> Subject: Re: [WISP] 900 PtP
>
>
> I just did this set up for a customer. Unfortunately they have ltos of
> pine trees. The panels didnt cut it and neither did yagis. Big grids
> did the trick.
> -RickG
>
> On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 8:08 PM, Justin Wilson  
>  wrote:
>
>
>  Mikrotik xr9's with arc wireless panels If the link budget supports
> them.
> Throw in 411a boards and you have a sweet setup.
>
> Justin
>
>
> --
> Justin Wilson  
>
> 
> From: Jeremy Grip  
> Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 7:06 PM
> To: w...@part-15.org
> Subject: [WISP] 900 PtP
>
> Anyone have any suggestions for a 900 PtP link? 2.5 miles, 25% trees at
> the
> far end. Should give me as much BW as possible, support most flavors of
> QOS
> for VoIP, and price matters.
>
> TIA,
>
> Jeremy Grip
> North Branch Networks, LLC
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Re: [WISPA] OT: Cisco 7200 Gigabit Ethernet Cards?

[Kevin Neal]

I've found Cisco ports are more expensive than a Mikrotik distribution
router.  We currently have a Cisco handling BGP and upstream connections,
then we distribute it using a switch to multiple Mikrotik boxes that
distribute and route(OSPF) to our various backhauls.  I'd cringe to think
what it would cost for us to run all of our radios at our NOC into a cisco.
-Kevin


On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 12:05 PM, Matt Jenkins wrote:

> Even if I go to a NPE-G1 or G2 I still need a total of 5 ports.
>
> 1 for inbound connection.
> 2 for outbound to radios that serve different towers
> 1 for local network of servers etc.
> 1 for colo customer.
>
> How do I add those other two ports?
>
>
> Randy Cosby wrote:
> > Which NPE are you using?
> >
> > Randy
> >
> > Matt Jenkins wrote:
> >> I have a 7204VXR router as my core. I am looking at upgrading from a
> >> 100mb ethernet to a gigE. I am having a really hard time find out how I
> >> can add gigabit ethernet (via RJ-45 connectors) to this router. I have
> >> two spare slots of expansion cards but I cannot find a card that does
> >> gig. Can anyone point me in the right direction?
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> - Matt
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Re: [WISPA] Latest Tranzeo Firmware = Broken NAT ???

[Kevin Neal]

I'm seeding just about every version from 2.9.51 to 3.24 on our
servers.  Let me know if you need any version in between.

-Kevin

On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 10:26 AM, Kevin Neal wrote:
> I'm seeding just about every version from 2.9.51 to 3.24 on our
> servers.  Let me know if you need any version in between.
>
> -Kevin
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 9:53 AM, Steve Barnes wrote:
>> Yes I have at least 75 clients with Tranzeo's (Router) connecting to StarOS. 
>>  However, the StarOS AP's that I have are OLD WRAP boards with StarOS 
>> version 2.11.0.  I had nothing but problems with the WAR boards as AP's due 
>> to the crappy HOTSPOT Valemont went to on v3 and lots of problems with VPN 
>> clients.  that and Lonnie told me that I was clueless and to go 
>> out of business so that someone else that had a clue could take my customers 
>> G 
>>
>> We are going to Mikrotik for all AP's due to the above rant.  We still use 
>> lots of StarOS for Backhauls.
>>
>> Steve Barnes
>> RCWiFi Wireless Internet Service
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
>> Behalf Of Steve Smith
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 10:37 AM
>> To: WISPA General List
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Latest Tranzeo Firmware = Broken NAT ???
>>
>> While I am not certain that it is a Tranzeo issue, I do know that it is
>> something we are able to cause 100% of the time only on Tranzeo units.
>> It is possible that it is something in our configuration but so far we
>> not found anything.
>>
>> Steve Barnes - Do you have any setups where you are have staros for the
>> AP and a Tranzeo unit in router mode at the client?
>>
>> Kurt - we have no evidence that it is related to P2P being installed on
>> the client machine.  We see the problem on any type of download
>> regardless of how it is done.
>>
>> Steve
>>
>>
>> Steve Barnes wrote:
>>> I have looked into what you are all having issue with.  I use a combo of 
>>> StarOS and Mikrotik.  I have one tower that has 49 Connections currently.  
>>> The AP is a RB411a with a XR2 on V3.17.  ALL and I mean ALL clients are 
>>> Tranzeo CPQ/SL2 with 3.6.7 or 3.5.2 all in router mode only.  I have not 
>>> had any of the issues that this thread started out talking about. If 
>>> someone is really in need and wants to contact me off-list I would be 
>>> willing to give them Read-Only access to the AP to look at it.  Also if you 
>>> need various firmware versions for Mikrotik, I have a link to a certain 
>>> WISPA board members web site that has ALL the versions archived.
>>>
>>> Steve Barnes
>>> RCWiFi Wireless Internet Service
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
>>> Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser
>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 9:19 AM
>>> To: 'WISPA General List'
>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Latest Tranzeo Firmware = Broken NAT ???
>>>
>>> Well, this definetly has something to do with having P2P installed on any
>>> machine behind the CPQ router because I can trigger this 100% of the time by
>>> launching limewire.
>>>
>>> Kurt Fankhauser
>>> WAVELINC
>>> P.O. Box 126
>>> Bucyrus, OH 44820
>>> 419-562-6405
>>> www.wavelinc.com
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>>> Behalf Of Steve Barnes
>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 9:16 AM
>>> To: WISPA General List
>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Latest Tranzeo Firmware = Broken NAT ???
>>>
>>> So we now have WISPs with both StarOS and Mtik AP's that are having issues
>>> with the Router mode of CPQ/SL2.  Wonder what Tranzeo would say about this?
>>>
>>> Steve Barnes
>>> RCWiFi Wireless Internet Service
>>>
>>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>>> Behalf Of Steve Smith
>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2009 6:01 PM
>>> To: WISPA General List
>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Latest Tranzeo Firmware = Broken NAT ???
>>>
>>> I do.  I will drop it to you offlist.
>>>
>>>
>>> D. Ryan Spott wrote:
>>>
>>> Do you have any ethreal data you can share?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ryan
>>>
>>>
&

Re: [WISPA] Need some quick trango help

[Kevin Neal]

Delete both radios out of the sudb and enter them in again.  We've had
some problems with the 2400 product where their radios don't get the
speed that they're supposed to, removing them and adding them back in,
with the same CIR/MIR fixes the problem.  Out of hundreds of these
radios we only have to do this on one every few months.

-Kevin


On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 9:44 AM, Kevin Neal wrote:
> Delete both radios out of the sudb and enter them in again.  We've had
> some problems with the 2400 product where their radios don't get the
> speed that they're supposed to, removing them and adding them back in,
> with the same CIR/MIR fixes the problem.  Out of hundreds of these
> radios we only have to do this on one every few months.
>
> -Kevin
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 9:38 AM, Josh
> Luthman wrote:
>> Oh sorry - I reread it and see there was a second customer/radio - not a
>> second radio in the same spot.  Confused with these A and B variables I am.
>>
>> Do you have forwarding groups on for these customers?  If you don't need
>> them then definitely leave them all out of any SU to SU groups.
>>
>> Did you try the power leveling yet?
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> "When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
>> improbable, must be the truth."
>> --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 11:28 AM, Marlon K. Schafer 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I thought about that too.  But if that were the case turning off the other
>>> customer's radio should have no effect right?
>>> marlon
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Josh Luthman" 
>>> To: "WISPA General List" 
>>> Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 8:20 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Need some quick trango help
>>>
>>>
>>> > If they're fox units I've got $50 that says the ethernet port on it is
>>> > bad.
>>> > The last 10 times this happened to me it was always a junk ethernet card.
>>> >
>>> > Josh Luthman
>>> > Office: 937-552-2340
>>> > Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> > 1100 Wayne St
>>> > Suite 1337
>>> > Troy, OH 45373
>>> >
>>> > "When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
>>> > improbable, must be the truth."
>>> > --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 11:23 AM, Cameron Kilton 
>>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> Good call.
>>> >>
>>> >> -Original Message-
>>> >> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>>> >> Behalf Of Kelly Shaw
>>> >> Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 11:12 AM
>>> >> To: 'WISPA General List'
>>> >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Need some quick trango help
>>> >>
>>> >> Hi,
>>> >>
>>> >> Just curious.  Have you done  the "SU POWERLEVELING" command on the AP?
>>> >>
>>> >> Kelly Shaw
>>> >> Kinex Telecom
>>> >> PO Box 976
>>> >> Halifax, VA 24558
>>> >> Desk: 434-476-8800 x2400
>>> >> Toll Free:  1.888.392.4804
>>> >> Mobile: 434-579-2113
>>> >> http://www.kinex.net
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> -Original Message-
>>> >> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>>> >> Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
>>> >> Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 11:02 AM
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>>> >> Subject: [WISPA] Need some quick trango help
>>> >>
>>> >> Hi All,
>>> >>
>>> >> Got a strange one here.
>>> >>
>>> >> I have a 5830 AP with 4 customers on it.  3 have no complaints, 1 gets
>>> >> 300
>>> >> to 400k downloads and 1000 to 3000 uploads.
>>> >>
>>> >> All links are less than one mile and are within 1/4 mile of each other.
>>> >>
>>> >> Two are right across the street from each other.
>>> >>
>>> >> Yesterday we had a few strange things happen so I went hunting for the
>>> >> cause.  While lo

Re: [WISPA] UPS RFP

[Kevin Neal]

Have the charging unit connected to deep cycle batteries, install one
of Forrests SiteMonitors, or a Mikrotik that can sense input voltage,
then monitor that via SNMP.  You can get the PoE injectors and control
them with the SiteMonitor as well.  I'm just writing a web interface
to talk SNMP to Forrests SiteMonitors so that I don't have to teach
everyone how to do an snmpset from the command line.

-Kevin





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> Need Advise Where to find:
>
> 12V output 120V input
> IP/SNMP control
> Outdoor Style (NEMA)
>
> Anyone make such a beast.  I hate the idea of having to use a AC UPS to 
> convert its battery back to AC just to switch it back to DC at the POE. What 
> a waste of electricity and it lowers Tower uptime in a power outage.  I know 
> you could just use a charging unit connected to deep cycle batteries but what 
> happens when the power goes out and you had no idea and the battery get down 
> to 8v.
>
> Surly there is someone out there with one that's <$1k.  Shouldn't be more 
> than a couple hundred bucks.
>
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Re: [WISPA] UPS RFP

[Kevin Neal]

http://packetflux.com/  I don't think he has a lot of info about the
PoE units on the website, they're fairly new.

-Kevin

On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 3:34 PM, NGL wrote:
> Where can I get information on the Forrests SiteMonitors or similar
> products?
> Thanx
> NGL
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> From: "Kevin Neal" 
> Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 2:16 PM
> To: "WISPA General List" 
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] UPS RFP
>
>> Have the charging unit connected to deep cycle batteries, install one
>> of Forrests SiteMonitors, or a Mikrotik that can sense input voltage,
>> then monitor that via SNMP.  You can get the PoE injectors and control
>> them with the SiteMonitor as well.  I'm just writing a web interface
>> to talk SNMP to Forrests SiteMonitors so that I don't have to teach
>> everyone how to do an snmpset from the command line.
>>
>> -Kevin
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 3:02 PM, Steve Barnes wrote:
>>> Need Advise Where to find:
>>>
>>> 12V output 120V input
>>> IP/SNMP control
>>> Outdoor Style (NEMA)
>>>
>>> Anyone make such a beast.  I hate the idea of having to use a AC UPS to
>>> convert its battery back to AC just to switch it back to DC at the POE.
>>> What a waste of electricity and it lowers Tower uptime in a power outage.
>>> I know you could just use a charging unit connected to deep cycle
>>> batteries but what happens when the power goes out and you had no idea
>>> and the battery get down to 8v.
>>>
>>> Surly there is someone out there with one that's <$1k.  Shouldn't be more
>>> than a couple hundred bucks.
>>>
>>> Steve
>>> RC-WiFi
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: [WISPA] Routerboard 333 vs 433

[Kevin Neal]

We have the 333 deployed in a bunch of situations, they work pretty
well for us, but, for the price go for the 433.  532's were ok,
they're old style now and don't have the near the performance of the
3xx or 4xx boards.


-Kevin



On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 8:05 PM, Scott Reed wrote:
> No hard data, but I have replaced 532 and 532A with 333 and seen better
> link performance.  I have replaced 333 with 433 and seen no real
> difference.  Replacing 333 with 433AH probably does, but I really don't
> have any evidence.
>
> Blair Davis wrote:
>> anybody got any real world experience of the performance difference
>> between the RB 333 vs the RB 433?
>>
>> The 333 has a 333MHz PowerPC and the 433 has a Atheros AR7130
>> 300MHz...But which is faster in the real world?
>>
>> How about the RB 532A with the MIPS 32 4kc at 266MHz?
>>
>> Hard to compare different CPU's by clock speed.
>>
>> Blair
>>
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Re: [WISPA] Routerboard 333 vs 433

[Kevin Neal]

Here's one with the 532 incuded.

http://www.routerboard.com/pdf/tests_jan_2008mbps.pdf

On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 9:12 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
> But does boot time correlate with PPS?
>
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>
> On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 11:11 PM, Kevin Neal  wrote:
>
>> http://www.mikrotik.com/pdf/RouterBOARD_Price_Performance_Comparison.pdf
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 8:55 PM, Josh Luthman
>> wrote:
>> > Well the boot times of the 532 are superior to any other routerboard I've
>> > used.  Don't know how that reflects on it's performance in PPS as it
>> could
>> > simply be a faster storage device.
>> >
>> > Josh Luthman
>> > Office: 937-552-2340
>> > Direct: 937-552-2343
>> > 1100 Wayne St
>> > Suite 1337
>> > Troy, OH 45373
>> >
>> > "When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
>> > improbable, must be the truth."
>> > --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle
>> >
>> >
>> > On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 10:43 PM, Kevin Neal  wrote:
>> >
>> >> We have the 333 deployed in a bunch of situations, they work pretty
>> >> well for us, but, for the price go for the 433.  532's were ok,
>> >> they're old style now and don't have the near the performance of the
>> >> 3xx or 4xx boards.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> -Kevin
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 8:05 PM, Scott Reed
>> >> wrote:
>> >> > No hard data, but I have replaced 532 and 532A with 333 and seen
>> better
>> >> > link performance.  I have replaced 333 with 433 and seen no real
>> >> > difference.  Replacing 333 with 433AH probably does, but I really
>> don't
>> >> > have any evidence.
>> >> >
>> >> > Blair Davis wrote:
>> >> >> anybody got any real world experience of the performance difference
>> >> >> between the RB 333 vs the RB 433?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> The 333 has a 333MHz PowerPC and the 433 has a Atheros AR7130
>> >> >> 300MHz...But which is faster in the real world?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> How about the RB 532A with the MIPS 32 4kc at 266MHz?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Hard to compare different CPU's by clock speed.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Blair
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> 
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
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Re: [WISPA] Routerboard 333 vs 433

[Kevin Neal]

http://www.mikrotik.com/pdf/RouterBOARD_Price_Performance_Comparison.pdf

On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 8:55 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
> Well the boot times of the 532 are superior to any other routerboard I've
> used.  Don't know how that reflects on it's performance in PPS as it could
> simply be a faster storage device.
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> "When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
> improbable, must be the truth."
> --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 10:43 PM, Kevin Neal  wrote:
>
>> We have the 333 deployed in a bunch of situations, they work pretty
>> well for us, but, for the price go for the 433.  532's were ok,
>> they're old style now and don't have the near the performance of the
>> 3xx or 4xx boards.
>>
>>
>> -Kevin
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 8:05 PM, Scott Reed
>> wrote:
>> > No hard data, but I have replaced 532 and 532A with 333 and seen better
>> > link performance.  I have replaced 333 with 433 and seen no real
>> > difference.  Replacing 333 with 433AH probably does, but I really don't
>> > have any evidence.
>> >
>> > Blair Davis wrote:
>> >> anybody got any real world experience of the performance difference
>> >> between the RB 333 vs the RB 433?
>> >>
>> >> The 333 has a 333MHz PowerPC and the 433 has a Atheros AR7130
>> >> 300MHz...But which is faster in the real world?
>> >>
>> >> How about the RB 532A with the MIPS 32 4kc at 266MHz?
>> >>
>> >> Hard to compare different CPU's by clock speed.
>> >>
>> >> Blair
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> 
>> >>
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>> >
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>> > Sr. Systems Engineer
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Re: [WISPA] Routerboard 333 vs 433

[Kevin Neal]

http://www.routerboard.com/pdf/tests_jan_2008pps.pdf

Well, pps wise, it looks like the 433 is around 80kpps and the 433 ah
is around 140kpps.  Best performance pps that the 333 can do is
80kpps.

-Kevin


On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 11:37 PM, Josh
Luthman wrote:
> Kevin's link
> http://www.routerboard.com/pdf/tests_jan_2008mbps.pdf
>
> says the 333 dominates over the 532 (per MikroTik's testing)
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> "When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
> improbable, must be the truth."
> --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 1:34 AM, Blair Davis  wrote:
>
>>  Thanks for all the comments...
>>
>> I have RB 112,133,230,333,411,433,532 in service.
>>
>> I've lost two 532's to on board power supply failure, one 532 to a direct
>> lighting strike.
>>
>> I've lost one 112 to Ethernet port failure, and a 133 to unknown causes
>>
>> My 333's, 411's and 433's have been flawless.
>>
>> I'm mainly looking for pps differences between the 333 and 433.
>>
>>
>>  Josh Luthman wrote:
>>
>> Well the boot times of the 532 are superior to any other routerboard I've
>> used.  Don't know how that reflects on it's performance in PPS as it could
>> simply be a faster storage device.
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> "When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
>> improbable, must be the truth."
>> --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 10:43 PM, Kevin Neal  
>>  wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>  We have the 333 deployed in a bunch of situations, they work pretty
>> well for us, but, for the price go for the 433.  532's were ok,
>> they're old style now and don't have the near the performance of the
>> 3xx or 4xx boards.
>>
>>
>> -Kevin
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 8:05 PM, Scott Reed 
>> 
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>  No hard data, but I have replaced 532 and 532A with 333 and seen better
>> link performance.  I have replaced 333 with 433 and seen no real
>> difference.  Replacing 333 with 433AH probably does, but I really don't
>> have any evidence.
>>
>> Blair Davis wrote:
>>
>>
>>  anybody got any real world experience of the performance difference
>> between the RB 333 vs the RB 433?
>>
>> The 333 has a 333MHz PowerPC and the 433 has a Atheros AR7130
>> 300MHz...But which is faster in the real world?
>>
>> How about the RB 532A with the MIPS 32 4kc at 266MHz?
>>
>> Hard to compare different CPU's by clock speed.
>>
>> Blair
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [WISPA] OT Hotmail email black hole

[Kevin Neal]

I think they confuse the "delete" button with the "spam" button over
there at AOL.

-Kevin


On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 8:29 AM, David E. Smith wrote:
> Marlon K. Schafer wrote:
>
>
>> Contacting Hotmail has been nearly useless.  They've simply told me to go
>> join a special program that they have and that'll get my system ok'd again.
>
> Which one? They probably want you to sign up for Smart Network Data
> Services, which is free and has decent automated tools if you're into
> that sort of thing.
>
> If you're running all your email stuff in-house, it's a good idea to
> sign up for that, and AOL's Feedback Loop. The latter is prone to
> false-positives (basically any time an AOL user hits the "spam" button,
> you get notified, and it turns out many AOL users hit that button for
> literally every email they receive) but it can be a valuable tool.
>
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Re: [WISPA] Anyone serve Elco Nevada?

[Kevin Neal]

I think Beehive does.

-Kevin


On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 1:45 PM, Ryan Ghering wrote:
> Does anyone on the list serve Elco Nevada? if so what equipment do you use?
> Looking for a provider for a customer who is moving.
>
> Thanks
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Re: [WISPA] T1 bandwidth pricing

[Kevin Neal]

I haven't asked about T1 prices around here, but I know an in-state
Qwest to Qwest DS3 was quoted to me at over $10,000/mo.

-Kevin


On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 1:32 PM, Robert West wrote:
> T1 pricing here in this area, Central Ohio, is just under $800.00 for one
> point of the route with AT&T including internet access.  The VPN and
> equipment is your own doing once it gets to their demarc, at least that's my
> take on dealing with them.  The thing with being between cities, however
> I was a network install manager for Qwest in a former life..  The cost
> to the provider varies depending on the path they are forced to take due to
> the available facilities you route through.  That's cost, not the price
> charged to the customer.  A route that is entirely upper east coast will
> drive you nuts in cost and facilities because it's saturated but if you
> route to the Midwest it's cheap.  You can easily have one end that is crazy
> expensive and another end that is dirt cheap, the price the salesperson will
> charge will be depending on the estimated total cost of the 2 points.  AND,
> more time than not, the provider has to lease facilities from another
> company to make the path.  Lots and lots and lots of variables.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Femi Adalemo
> Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2009 2:55 PM
> To: wireless@wispa.org
> Subject: [WISPA] T1 bandwidth pricing
>
> Hi friends,
> I'm conducting some market research and would like to know what T1 pricing
> between different cities for corporate VPNs has been in your area over the
> past few months / years, I would also like to know what the breakdown of the
> pricing is (capacity lease, support, equipment, etc.) any information you
> have on this would be greatly appreciated.
>
> PS this is not limited to US markets
>
> Thanks
>
> Femi
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Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Processor Load

[Kevin Neal]

Connection tracking?  Do you have all of the extra packages you don't
use disabled?  I've seen this once with web proxy enabled and someone
using it to send spam.

-Kevin


On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 5:24 PM, Scott Reed wrote:
> Anyone know an easy way to figure out what a 532 with 2 PtP links on it
> would be running at 80+%?  No queues, no filters.  Moving about 2Mbps
> from the 2 backhauls down the wire.
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Re: [WISPA] Customer to Bandwidth Ratio

[Kevin Neal]

We monitor our bandwidth usage and when we are consistently hitting about
80% we look to upgrade bandwidth.
-Kevin



On Sat, Sep 12, 2009 at 8:03 AM, Robert West wrote:

> I'm sure this has been asked before but what ratio are some of you using
> for
> customer vs. available bandwidth?  We aren't experiencing any problems at
> the moment but I want to know when we should start looking to add capacity.
> Our competitor is running 20 up and 20 down but has 500+ customers on it
> and
> if I do a speed test the pings are fast, 32 or so, but it's really "jerky"
> on the download and uploads.  So..  What is a good REAL WORLD ratio
> that
> you use that is smooth?
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> Thanks!
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> Just Micro Digital Services Inc.
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Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions

[Kevin Neal]

WRT54G post Cisco buyout, yes, major major problems.
One of the things I tell our customers when we sell them the WRT54GL is:
 We've been in this business and been through a lot of different routers and
these WRT54GL's have the best proven track record in our experience.  There
may be other products from all kinds of vendors that may work just as well,
but we have experience with these and KNOW they work well.

These are routers we purchase and keep in stock on all of our trucks and at
our office to sell, we don't load any custom firmware on them, and rarely do
we have to walk someone through upgrading the firmware.  I have had a few
problems with customers having FTP issues though, the quick fix is to update
the firmware in the router, if that fails we always have DD-WRT or Tomato.


-Kevin


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> Something like 80% of the time I've been to a network had Linksys, it's
> been
> broken.
>
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> To: "'WISPA General List'" 
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions
>
> > Not with multiple lan and at 50 bucks.
> >
> > Why not Linksys?  You can always put third party firmware on it if you
> > want.
> > I use DD-WRT on them when I have use one.  I've even taken a few of them
> > out
> > of the factory case and put them in other boxes with the CPE.  At 55
> > bucks,
> > they are certainly cheap and with the DD-WRT, they are much more
> > configurable.
> >
> > Robert West
> > Just Micro digital Services Inc.
> >
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> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> > Behalf Of Gino Villarini
> > Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 5:58 PM
> > To: WISPA General List
> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions
> >
> > Mikrotik?
> >
> > Gino A. Villarini
> > g...@aeronetpr.com
> > Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
> > tel  787.273.4143   fax   787.273.4145
> > -Original Message-
> > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> > Behalf Of Mike Hammett
> > Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 5:36 PM
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> > Subject: [WISPA] Router suggestions
> >
> > I'm looking for suggestions on an 802.11 router with multiple LAN ports
> > where I can disable the NAT capability...  making it a bridge.  I used
> > to use the TrendNet TEW-452BRP, but it's EOL and the TEW-633GR is too
> > expensive ($100).  I'm looking for something in the $30 - $45 area.
> >
> > No Linksys, I don't want to tarnish my name.  :-p
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Re: [WISPA] Crown Castle Tower Space Leasing

[Kevin Neal]

Last I looked, 3 sectors and 2 2' backhauls would be $1800/mo+.  For a
single sector and one backhaul it was still over $1000/mo.
-Kevin


On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 8:46 AM, Robert West wrote:

> Does anyone here lease space from Crown Castle?  I have a cell tower in an
> area I've been trying to find access in and this tower is in a good spot
> for
> us and our tier 1 provider has fiber running right across the road from it.
>
>
> Any idea what they charge and issues with them?  Looks to be a big company
> so I doubt they will lease cheaply.
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> Thanks!
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Re: [WISPA] Firmware needed...

[Kevin Neal]

On it's way offlist.

-Kevin


On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 6:14 PM, Eje Gustafsson  wrote:
> Could someone please send me Motorola Canopy v7.3.6 DES firmware?
>
> I got a site down only thing I got around is a older P9 non-advantage AP but
> it is running 7.2.9 so can not set in the web interface to hardware
> scheduling so I can upgrade to v8->  since it requires 7.3.6.
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Re: [WISPA] Searchable Map of Stimulus projects

[Kevin Neal]

Gotta love the entire country being colored from the
satellite/research grant applications.

-Kevin



On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 4:00 PM, Mike Hammett  wrote:
> http://broadbandsearch.sc.egov.usda.gov/silvermap/broadbandmap.aspx?program=ARRA
>
> Works now.  Very few parts of the country don't have any projects covering
> them.  Any way to tell who they are?
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
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> --
> From: "Matt Larsen - Lists" 
> Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 7:41 PM
> To: "WISPA General List" ; "motorola Canopy User Group"
> 
> Subject: [WISPA] Searchable Map of Stimulus projects
>
>> Here is a link to maps of the projects:
>>
>> http://bit.ly/3p2be3
>>
>> I count four cell phone companies in my areas looking for stimulus money
>> to expand their existing phone networks.   What a crock!
>>
>> Also, a big chunk of the country is covered by the Satellite providers
>> wanting money to upgrade their satellite network.   Since when does that
>> actually improve broadband availability?   I guess it is sort of like
>> broadband-lite.
>>
>> Ack!
>>
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>> vistabeam.com
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Re: [WISPA] Fast DNS cache

[Kevin Neal]

Centos + Unbound is what I'm using at one location.

-Kevin

On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 10:57 AM, Travis Johnson  wrote:

> Not faster than having your own servers on your own network... ;)
>
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> Microserv
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> >
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> Behalf Of David E. Smith
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 9:48 AM
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> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Fast DNS cache
> >
> > On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 11:40, Mike Hammett 
> wrote:
> >
> >> I am setting up some new DNS servers and I'd like to figure out what the
> >> quickest caching DNS server is.  Google keeps telling me to go to Open
> >> DNS.  I'm not opposed to them and may use them as either primary or
> >> secondary, but I want at least one server within my own network.
> >>
> >
> > If you're looking for off-site service, I'm surprised Google isn't
> > plugging their own public caching-only DNS servers (8.8.8.8 and
> > 8.8.4.4, I think).
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> > If you want to install your own, just use BIND.
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Re: [WISPA] Black Paint on Omni Antenna

[Kevin Neal]

Is there any metallic components to that paint?  You can purchase
Omni's that are black from the factory.

-Kevin


On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 9:16 AM, Matt  wrote:
> I took some cheap black enamel spray paint and sprayed down an omni
> antenna.  Thought was to perhaps keep ice off it in winter etc.
> Clients all seem to drop by about 5db.  Is that normal?
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Re: [WISPA] Black Paint on Omni Antenna

[Kevin Neal]

"black pigment is commonly made from carbon black"

>From the web, is it possible that the carbon black is causing this?
(I'm not an RF expert especially when it comes to paints

-Kevin


On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 9:25 AM, Matt  wrote:
>> Is there any metallic components to that paint?  You can purchase
>
> Not on label.  Said lead free but all paint is lead free now days.  It
> was dollar store spray paint for a dollar.
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Re: [WISPA] Breezecom PRO.11 Configuration Utility

[Kevin Neal]

Sent offlist..

-Kevin


On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 8:17 PM, Bob Moldashel  wrote:

> If you do Jerry that would be great.
>
> tnx
>
>
> Jerry Richardson wrote:
> > Ah,
> > I might (very slight chance) have the floppy somewhere in the shop.
> > I'll look.
> >
> > Jerry Richardson
> > Sent Mobile
> >
> > On Sep 15, 2010, at 6:56 PM, "Bob Moldashel"  wrote:
> >
> >
> >> But the customer wants the utility. He doesn't want the easy way.  he
> >> does it that way now.  AUGH!
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Jerry Richardson wrote:
> >>
> >>> You need to console inwith the special cable and set the IP. Once it
> >>> has an IP you can telnet to it.
> >>>
> >>> Jerry Richardson
> >>> Sent Mobile
> >>>
> >>> On Sep 15, 2010, at 5:23 PM, "Mark Nash - Lists" 
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
>  Didn't know they had a utility.  Just connected serially through a
>  terminal
>  emulator like HyperTerminal with one of those special cables...
> 
>  If it's BreezeNET then you may not have telnet access to them.  But
>  you
>  should be able to serial into them...
> 
>  - Original Message -
>  From: "Bob Moldashel" 
>  To: "WISPA General List" 
>  Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 5:15 PM
>  Subject: [WISPA] Breezecom PRO.11 Configuration Utility
> 
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> > Any of the old timers have a copy of this old hag laying around?
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Re: [WISPA] WWL Cruise

[Kevin Neal]

Cheapest plan (250 minutes) was $0.40 per minute.otherwise you had
100 minute packages at $0.55 per minute or pay as you go $0.75 per
minute...

-Kevin

On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 7:00 AM, Rick Harnish  wrote:
> Billy,
>
>
>
> I was on it last year.  Internet access was almost cost prohibitive, so I
> doubt if there are many online.
>
>
>
> Rick
>
>
>
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Billy Williams
> Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2010 8:23 AM
> To: wireless@wispa.org
> Subject: [WISPA] WWL Cruise
>
>
>
> Anyone from the list on the WWL Cruise now?
>
>
>
> Billy Williams
>
> CTI Wireless
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Re: [WISPA] Backend systems

[Kevin Neal]

Forgive me if it's changed in newer versions, on version 8 you would
go to Reports | Financial | Query-based Accounting Reports, then fill
in the start and end dates, select Payments and hit run.  It's in
there, it's a very common report that we run and it would be nice to
have it be one button for the daily entries.

-Kevin


On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 3:48 PM, Tony C. Loosle  wrote:
> the reports don't exisit.
>
> how does she get a list of paid checks out of the system to match up for a
> deposit?   I would love to know that one!
>
>
>> LOL that reminds me of Beavis & Butthead, where all things in the
>> world are lumped into two categories: "This RULES" and "THIS SUCKS".
>>
>> Tony, your network may be much bigger than mine so billing problems
>> show up more frequently, but, IMHO, billing is alright, not great,
>> not perfect, just good.  It's not an accounting package, and our
>> bookkeeper seems to get what she needs out of it to do the books
>> every month.
>>
>> About half of my customers pay with a check, and we put it in
>> through Powercode, so I think your comment about "forget it in
>> powercode" is a little extreme.
>>
>> On 12/2/2010 1:00 PM, Tony C. Loosle wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Powercode may be great with
>>> the BMU, but as for a billing system is really sucks!
>>>
>> Forget about basic accounting
>>> reports and simply things like a check deposit.  Yes, customers
>>> still pay with a check.   Forget about it in powercode!
>>
>>
>>> I agree.  Do
>>> NOT even consider paying for Powercode unless you
>>> intend to
>>> integrate with the BMU (bandwidth) management.  That's where the
>>> real power is, though we're having problems still, with about 5
>>> percent of our customers (those who have remote subnets, like a
>>> /30 or /29 or /24).  Also some little things.
>>>
>>> Don't get me
>>> wrong, the product is usable and valuable.  It's just that with
>>> what they want to charge for it these days, I expect for
>>> EVERYTHING to work, in MY environment, and for there to be
>>> excellent
>>> support.  We're talking over $1200/mo for the number of subs that
>>> I
>>> have.  For that cost, I should have .15 of a programmer dedicated
>>> to fixing my problems, all day, every day.
>>>
>>> On 12/2/2010
>>> 12:28 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
>>>

 I
>>> believe that a major turn will be the Maxx.  I don't
>>>
>>> understand how so much could be done via shell to begin with
>>>
>>> (Imagestream).
>>>

 The
>>> bmu is what makes the product work for your business.  If you
>>>
 just
>>> do tickets, bills and such you're wasting your money.
>>>

 I care
>>> most about getting it done.  Phone, email, morse code I
>>>
 don't
>>> care.
 On Dec
>>> 2, 2010 3:12 PM, "Mark Nash"  wrote:
>>>
 Dude,
>>> talk with Josh more before you decide that you don't go with
>>>
 them.
>>> There's GOT to be something he's doing that I'm not. I've
>>>
 got
 alot
>>> invested in PowerCode, and I wish it would "turn the corner"
>>>
 for me
>>> but it hasn't.
>>>
 On
>>> 12/2/2010 12:03 PM, Jeremie Chism wrote:
>>>
>>> That is hilarious. I just tried it and you weren't
>>>
>>> joking. I was going to inquire about pricing but guess I won't.


>>> Sent from my iPhone4
>>>
> On
>>> Dec 2, 2010, at 1:55 PM, Mark Nash
>>>
 wrote:

>>
>>> Man... Don't get me started on PowerCode today. I
 just
>>> tried calling
>>>
>>> their sales line. 920-351-1010.
>>>
>>
>>> Go ahead, call it. I dare you.
>>>
>>
>>> If I had a phone system like theirs I would have
 been
>>> out of business
>>>
>>> long ago...
>>>
>>
>>> Their MAIN greeting sounds like it was recorded A)
>>>
 on a
>>> speakerphone and
>>>
>>> B) in a room with about 50 servers running with 10
>>>
 fans
>>> each. Then you
>>>
>>> press 1 for Sales and go immediately to voicemail.
>>>
 Try to
>>> hit "0" for
>>>
>>> the operator and you get "mailbox not set up".
>>>
>>
>>> I've been using them for a few years now and have
 been
>>> pretty vocal on
>>>
>>> this list about them.
>>
>>
>>> On 12/2/2010 10:36 AM, Shane MacDonald wrote:
>>>
>>> Has any of you ever tired Powercode as a
>>>
>>> backend systems?
>>>
>>> Does anyone have experience with it compared to
>>>
>>> Platypus?
>>>
>>>
>>> We have a number of customers ranging between
 the
>>> 300 to 700 clients.
>>>
>>> I am trying to find a solution I maybe able to
>>>
>>> recommend them.
>>>
>>> Billing is an important piece but it also needs
 to
>>> have a ticketing
>>>
>>> system, be able to monitor clients, record
>>>
>>> history, etc.
>>>
>>> The two above I have received the most
>>>
>>> endorsements for and just
>>>
>>> wonder which maybe better.
>>>
>>>
>>> Shane
>>>
>>> KP Performance
>>
>>
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Re: [WISPA] Email Accounts

[Kevin Neal]

Icewarp here.  There are some that don't like it, personally, I
haven't had to "adjust" any server settings for several years.

-Kevin


On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 8:38 AM, Matt  wrote:
> Our current email server is getting a bit over loaded.  Disk I/O is
> getting to be an issue on it.  Hosting about 2000 accounts.  Likely
> just going to move current solution to a bigger and newer RAID array.
> Before I do that thought I would ask what other solutions are out
> there?  Prefer to keep it in house and keep costs down.  Current
> solution actually works ok just such a pain whenever it needs
> upgraded.
>
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Re: [WISPA] What is this?

[Kevin Neal]

It's a 16 Port KVM IP Switch, you have to buy "SIPods" that are of the
USB or PS/2 variety to hook to your server, then you connect this
device with the SIPods and you are able to manage multiple servers
from one keyboard/monitor, where this also does KVM over IP you can
also install the software on your computer to be able to remotely
access the servers.  One nice thing about a KVMoIP Switch is you have
Bios level access to any of your servers.

-Kevin


On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 11:16 PM, Blake Bowers  wrote:
> DELL POWEREDGE 2161DS 16-PORT KVM IP SWITCH 2161-DS
>
> I just found one of these literally laying here.  Can anyone tell a
> technology impaired person what it is?   Is it still something of value?
>
>
> Don't take your organs to heaven,
> heaven knows we need them down here!
> Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today.
>
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Re: [WISPA] Time Warner fiber OHIO price per meg

[Kevin Neal]

This isn't in Ohio but when we were upgrading our TW fiber in Idaho,
the saleswoman said she can't do any "special" pricing on circuits
less than 100M, we are around $20/M now.

-Kevin



On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 6:25 PM, Kurt Fankhauser  wrote:
> Really? Guess I shouldn’t complain when they sold me the 30/30 for $1600
> then, I was trying to get the 50/50 and so far they are only coming down to
> about $2300 for it.
>
>
>
> 
>
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Robert West
> Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 7:10 PM
> To: 'WISPA General List'
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Time Warner fiber OHIO price per meg
>
>
>
> They seem to have an across the board 800 bucks or so for 10/10 and 1600 for
> 20/20    Negotiable but not much.  All the statics you need included.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser
> Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 6:01 PM
> To: 'WISPA General List'
> Subject: [WISPA] Time Warner fiber OHIO price per meg
>
>
>
> Whats everyone paying price per meg for Time Warner dedicated internet
> access here in Ohio?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -Kurt Fankhauser
>
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