Re: [WISPA] Some great photos
http://cryptome.org/0001/af-fun-news-02.htm Contained in this list are the photo and the story from the photographer's perspective, that the AP was heavily criticized for publishing, of a wounded soldier in Afghanistan that dies a few hours later. I think it's worth sharing to reflect on the sacrifices made by our young men in harms way in their effort to provide a safe future for our families and our children. It also tells the story of their days and provides a stark contrast with our lives and problems that we deal with daily. If so inclined, a daily prayer is recommended for our troop's safety and success in their endeavors to make this a safer world. Thanks for sharing Blake...Ron -Original Message- From: Blake Bowers [mailto:bbow...@mozarks.com] Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2009 2:34 AM To: tower-...@yahoogroups.com Cc: towerown...@yahoogroups.com; l...@yahoogroups.com; WISPA General List; towerwork...@yahoogroups.com Subject: [WISPA] Some great photos check out http://cryptome.org/ Scroll down a bit on the page. Don't take your organs to heaven, heaven knows we need them down here! Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] LNP Services
I think that Synchronoss Technologies, Inc. provides porting services Kathy. -Original Message- From: Kathy Tate [mailto:kt...@onlinenw.com] Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 1:26 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] LNP Services We are a WISP and a CLEC and have our own SS7 gateway that we have used for our dialup base. We are in the process of launching our own voice service utilizing our existing SS7 gateway. I would like to outsource the LNP process. I was hoping someone might have a vendor recommendation. Thank you. Kathy Tate Chief Executive Officer OnlineNW mailto:kt...@onlinenw.com kt...@onlinenw.com 503.883.9200 ext. 278 www.onlinenw.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Customer Support
Chris: I have talked with this guy several times and really like him -- very professional, not pushy. And they seem very capable. But I have not worked with him personally, so I cannot attest to anything. But if I read him correctly, he should be very good. You will of course have to ferret out whether the 'price is right'. Here is the background information that he sent me on the company as well as his contact information. I have already suggested to him that he should look at membership in the association. Be sure to work that angle as well, especially if you do anything with him. Ron Information below: From: Matthew Achak [matthew.ac...@1callres.com] Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 12:20 PM To: Ron Harden Subject: First Call Resolution - company information as promised Attachments: FCR - Overview.pdf; FCR presentation.ppt Ron, It was nice talking with you. Please find attached information about First Call Resolution and our outsourced domestically live agent help desk services for ILECs and CLECs. I have also included a slide deck about us as well. Headquartered out here in Oregon, First Call specializes in handling creative outsourced call center and back office work for companies in the communications (phone, cable, internet, wireless) arena such as Pervasip, basically helping wherever a need should present itself, inbound as well as outbound, short term as well as long term. The following are areas of our expertise: Customer Service Order Processing Technical Support Data Entry Outbound Calling (surveys, lead generation, welcome calls, retention calls, telesales) Email and web chat support After Hours coverage Short Term coverage Seasonal coverage Pilot programs Back office work Let me know if we can ever be of any assistance. Sincerely, Matthew Achak Executive VP and Founder First Call Resolution 206-932-2023 (o) matthew.ac...@1callres.com www.1callres.com -Original Message- From: Christopher Hair [mailto:sa...@ntinet.com] Sent: Saturday, May 30, 2009 4:23 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Outsourced Customer Support We provide Dial-up, DSL and Wireless Broadband services. Looking at outsourcing customer support for weekends and afterhours. Anyone got any company references, suggestions or experiences with outsourcing support? Thanks in Advance Christopher Hair NTInet Inc. Orangeburg, SC 29118 Web: http://www.ntinet.com www.ntinet.com Email: mailto:%20ch...@ntinet.com ch...@ntinet.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Cell phone with wifi?
Paragon Wireless makes a great dual-mode phone that works flawlessly GSM/Wi-Fi VoIP (my boss has been using one for over a year). About $400 retail, and $250 bulk. We considered introducing the phone, but chose not to. It's a more complex sale and marketing challenge, coupled with additional customer service requirements. Also a significant inventory carrying cost if we were to wholesale the product. Ron -Original Message- From: Charles Wu [mailto:c...@cticonnect.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 8:40 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Cell phone with wifi? My iphone has a SIP client that can do this -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of George Rogato Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2009 5:12 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Cell phone with wifi? Is there a cell phone that can connect to someones wifi ap and still make phone calls or recieve data when not in range of the cell service? Thanks WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Cell phone with wifi alternative
This will be a much better option than cell phone and wi-fi, in my opinion. The stated launch date is 7.01.09. It will include unlimited voice and data for $70, including all taxes. No hot spots required. www.zer01mobile.com. International dialing will be at greatly reduced prices (for a cell phone). No roaming charges. We will provide the voice application on the data network. The pricing is no longer shown on this website, but they have sent out countless press releases on intended price points. FYI...Ron -Original Message- From: Pat O'Connor [mailto:p...@inlandnet.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 11:41 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Cell phone with wifi? Interesting article in regards to your topic. http://www.voipplanet.com/trends/article.php/3820346 I'm out here in the sticks with limited cell coverage in a lot of areas and this looks like a promising line of business. George Rogato wrote: Is there a cell phone that can connect to someones wifi ap and still make phone calls or recieve data when not in range of the cell service? Thanks WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] FW: FCC Rural Broadband report
FYI...Ron -Original Message- From: Karen Reidy [mailto:kre...@comptel.org] Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 1:36 PM To: Karen Reidy Subject: FCC Rural Broadband report Dear Members: Below is the link to the FCC's Rural Broadband Strategy Report that was released today. http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DOC-291012A1.pdf WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] weHAVEbroadband.com
That was really clever Matt! Way to think out of the box! Ron -Original Message- From: Matt Larsen - Lists [mailto:li...@manageisp.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 2:19 PM To: WISPA General List; w...@part-15.org; Motorola Canopy User Group Subject: [WISPA] weHAVEbroadband.com I got tired of seeing this weneedbroadband.com website coming up over and over on Twitter and in press releases, especially since so many of the places on their map already have access to WISPs. So I registered http://www.wehavebroadband.com/ and pointed it to the WISP Directory. Tell your friends. Haha. If you don't have your listings updated on the directory, please add the zip codes for all of your service areas. BTW - no census tract requirements here. :^) Matt Larsen vistabeam.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] VoIP.com
They have 359 reviews on this site: www.voipreview.org/review.all.aspx. For full disclosure, please note that Vox is a competitor (in that we both promote the same services). But whenever I want to see what users say about a VoIP provider, I go to this generic site. As always, do your due diligence carefully thru testing and careful scrutiny. Ron -Original Message- From: Bobby Burrow [mailto:bo...@burrow.com] Sent: Friday, April 24, 2009 1:31 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] VoIP.com Does anyone here have any experience or background information on these guys? Thanks, Bobby WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Time Warner Tests $150-Per-Month Unlimited Internet
The link is described as a non-working URL. Ron -Original Message- From: Eje Gustafsson [mailto:e...@wisp-router.com] Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 10:22 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] Time Warner Tests $150-Per-Month Unlimited Internet Not seen anyone post this article but think it is of interest to people on the list. http://www.informationweek.com/news/services/data/showArticle.jhtml?articleI D=216500302 http://www.informationweek.com/news/services/data/showArticle.jhtml?article ID=216500302subSection=News subSection=News / Eje WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] OT Number Porting Question
My porting guru tells me that we could port that number. But this is not a sales pitch -- if we can do it, others can do it. Someone must be giving you bad information, or the runaround on the port. Ron -Original Message- From: lakel...@gbcx.net [mailto:lakel...@gbcx.net] Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 2:25 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] OT Number Porting Question We had a landline number with Verizon ported to a cellphone with Verizon Wireless. Now we are trying to port the number to Cablevision that provides triple play. We are being told that they can't port a cell number because it belongs to the cell company. I told them the whole story how it came from a landline and they are still saying it can't be done Anyone shed light on this? Tnx Bob Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Mac Dearman Update
Mac: Call me when you feel like talking...I had 2 stents inserted 7 years ago and have the diet down pat -- OK it might be boring -- but in combination with the heart drugs, my bad cholesterol (LDL) is down to 62. When the LDL is below 70 they have found that the arteries start to flush themselves of plaque build-up. Call when better and we can compare stents! :) My heart doc says it might even improve your libido! Can I say that on the list serv? Best...Ron -Original Message- From: Jeremy Davis [mailto:jere...@maximumtech.biz] Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 11:08 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mac Dearman Update Did she say if he had a stint? He did. Sincerely, Jeremy Davis, CEO Maximum Technologies, LLC Office 318.303.4725 www.maximumtech.us WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Mac Dearman Update
Trying to cheer Mac up! Hospitals tend to get you down... -Original Message- From: Jeff Broadwick [mailto:jeffl...@comcast.net] Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 11:38 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mac Dearman Update LOL, I think you just did Ron! Jeff -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Ron Harden Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 11:21 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mac Dearman Update Mac: Call me when you feel like talking...I had 2 stents inserted 7 years ago and have the diet down pat -- OK it might be boring -- but in combination with the heart drugs, my bad cholesterol (LDL) is down to 62. When the LDL is below 70 they have found that the arteries start to flush themselves of plaque build-up. Call when better and we can compare stents! :) My heart doc says it might even improve your libido! Can I say that on the list serv? Best...Ron -Original Message- From: Jeremy Davis [mailto:jere...@maximumtech.biz] Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 11:08 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mac Dearman Update Did she say if he had a stint? He did. Sincerely, Jeremy Davis, CEO Maximum Technologies, LLC Office 318.303.4725 www.maximumtech.us WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Mac Dearman OT
Very true, except for the alcohol -- no problem there unless crème-based (forget the Baileys -- that's like injecting fat directly into your veins). I never cheat on the saturated fat. But occasionally I cheat to moderation on the cholesterol. I assume the statin drugs are doing their job! Another really bad one -- mayo. Take a look sometime at the fat content! -Original Message- From: Faisal Imtiaz [mailto:fai...@snappydsl.net] Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 1:19 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mac Dearman OT Ron, Aren't Shell Fish... (Shrimp, lobster crawfish) also off limits due to being high in cholesterol? Along with Alcohol ? Faisal Imtiaz Computer Office Solutions Inc. /SnappyDSL.net Ph: (305) 663-5518 x 232 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Ron Harden Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 12:56 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mac Dearman OT Diet: Low in saturated fat and low in cholesterol. No cheese, bacon, sausage, cookies, doughnuts, beef, butter. Look for healthy alternatives. Believe it or not, before long even the heart-healthy foods will taste good. Seafood, no-fat cheese, more salads and very lean ham or turkey are good. No beef. Just read the nutritional labels on anything you buy before it goes in your mouth. I don't eat anything with more than 2 grams of saturated fat per serving. Meds: The docs played with the meds for a while until we finally got the LDL down 70. I'm on 10 Mg Zetia, 80 Mg Pravastatin (generic equivalent for Pravachol), 10 Mg Lisinopril (blood drug) and a baby aspirin. The statin drugs are notorious for causing muscle pains, but I don't have any problem tolerating the Pravachol. Word of warning to all: If over 40 I suggest that you have a test done to determine if there is any plaque buildup in your arteries. Don't rely on a simple stress test in combination with an annual physical to determine if heart-healthy. I had a stress test in which nothing showed up, 6 months before the heart incident (80-90% blockage in main arteries). Since my experience, all of my friends over 40 have had a heart CT scan (or some equivalent) done. One of them owned his own telecom company, and after the test, went out and bought a $10 mil life policy because they found something. Hope this helps.Ron -Original Message- From: Chuck McCown - 3 [mailto:ch...@beehive.net] Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 11:48 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mac Dearman OT So, what is that diet like? Lipitor was killing me so I threw it away. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Ron Harden Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 11:21 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mac Dearman Update Mac: Call me when you feel like talking...I had 2 stents inserted 7 years ago and have the diet down pat -- OK it might be boring -- but in combination with the heart drugs, my bad cholesterol (LDL) is down to 62. When the LDL is below 70 they have found that the arteries start to flush themselves of plaque build-up. Call when better and we can compare stents! :) My heart doc says it might even improve your libido! Can I say that on the list serv? Best...Ron -Original Message- From: Jeremy Davis [mailto:jere...@maximumtech.biz] Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 11:08 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mac Dearman Update Did she say if he had a stint? He did. Sincerely, Jeremy Davis, CEO Maximum Technologies, LLC Office 318.303.4725 www.maximumtech.us WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] what should ARPU mean?
ARPU is also a widely used term and barometer of success within the cable industry. They continue to attempt to drive ARPU by bundling additional products in their service offering. Like voice services! :) But also by marketing premium services -- I just upgraded to Brighthouse's 15 MB 'turbo' service, for example. But that one won't help their ARPU for awhile -- I told them I would buy it if they gave it to me free for 1 year, which they agreed to do. Ron -Original Message- From: Jerry Richardson [mailto:jrichard...@aircloud.com] Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 2:11 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] what should ARPU mean? ARPU Finance Definition Average revenue per user is calculated by dividing revenues by the subscriber base. Non-service revenues, such as equipment or other sales, are included in the calculation. The definition often is used in the telecom industry. User refers to one customer, such as a cell phone user. More simply, ARPU = Total revenue / # customers. __ Jerry Richardson airCloud Communications -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Matt Liotta Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 11:03 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] what should ARPU mean? We (the WISP industry) like to talk about ARPU a lot, but different organizations define ARPU differently. So, my question is what do you think the definition of ARPU should be? -Matt WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] New Vendor Member - Bingham McCutchen LLP
Guys: I don't do this very often, but I would like to personally attest to Bingham's capabilities in the area of telecom law and MA experience, and that of Andy Lipman in particular. He is a consummate professional with tremendous reach and expertise within the industry. And he is supported by a large team of capable attorneys. When we needed help over the last 20 years, Andy and his firm are where the companies that I have been associated with have turned to. Welcome Andy...your contribution on some key issues you will find in the list serv could be invaluable. And hopefully you will find some new business opportunities along the way. Ron -Original Message- From: Rick Harnish [mailto:rharn...@greatamericanbroadband.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2008 5:35 PM To: 'WISPA General List'; memb...@wispa.org; 'Motorola Canopy User Group' Subject: [WISPA] New Vendor Member - Bingham McCutchen LLP I would like to introduce Andrew Lipman of Bingham McCutchen LLP as a new vendor member for WISPA. I have attached a link to a video series by Jay Zimmerman, the Chairman. http://www.bingham.com/FromTheChairman.aspx?PageID=2I would like to thank Bingham for their support. Here is some text from their website on Telecommunications Law: Like our clients, Bingham's Telecommunications, Media and Technology (TMT) Practice Group is on the cutting edge of the communications revolution. We understand the communications industry - both where it is today and where future opportunities lie. Our clients are established and emerging telecommunications carriers; VoIP and Internet application providers; wireless and satellite companies; cable operators, competitive video service providers, broadcasters and media companies; equipment manufacturers; large users of communications services; systems integrators; and investment banks, venture funds and hedge fund managers. They range from Fortune 500 companies to entrepreneurs with little more than an innovative concept. They come to us for our unrivalled legal talent and our ability to help them implement their strategic business goals and identify new business opportunities in the rapidly converging communications, media and technology fields. Bingham has one of the largest TMT practices in the world with 40 attorneys and professionals. Our lawyers have played a role in nearly every significant development in the communications industry in the past quarter century, in the United States and internationally. Our attorneys have served as in-house counsels in the communications industry and have held senior positions at the Federal Communications Commission (FCC); the Federal Trade Commission (FTC); the United States Congress; and other federal, state and foreign government agencies. Our diverse experiences give us an in-depth understanding of what matters to our clients and allows us to anticipate and advise them on the latest market developments, regulatory changes, legislative actions, and commercial and technical issues. Our practice combines regulatory, corporate and transactional, dispute resolution, land use, and legislative work. We are aggressive and creative advocates for our clients at the negotiating table and before government agencies in the U.S. and abroad. We also work closely with the firm's other practices to meet the full range of our clients' needs. Respectfully, Rick Harnish General Manager - Midwest Region Great American Broadband 260-827-2482 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] SkyWi Sues Qwest for Racketeering Monopolistic Practices
George: When I click on the link that you sent I get a Market Watch header, but a document not found message in the body of the narrative. FYI...Ron -Original Message- From: George Rogato [mailto:wi...@oregonfast.net] Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 11:42 AM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] SkyWi Sues Qwest for Racketeering Monopolistic Practices http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/SkyWi-Sues-Qwest-Racketeering-Monopoli stic/story.aspx?guid={4118C3E4-CBC0-4B7B-ABA0-9E041B08A68A} Think they will win? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] ISPCON
Vox is exhibiting and will be there...Ron -Original Message- From: Charles Wu (CTI) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 12:07 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] ISPCON Who's going? We are thinking of throwing a networking party / reception there on Wednesday night (right before ISP-CEO) Wanted to know who'd be there to see if there's any interest out there -Charles Charles Wu President [EMAIL PROTECTED] cell: 773-457-0718 * office: 847-346-0990 x2500 16W235 83rd Street, Suite A, Burr Ridge, IL 60527 * tel: 847.326.0990 fax: 847.346.0991 This message is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible for delivery of the message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by telephone at 630-344-1586. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Taxes
Mike: You will be responsible for collecting and remitting USF charges to USAC. Your VoIP service provider may do it for you, but you will still have to register, obtain an ID number, and submit the differential of retail versus wholesale USF fees owed on voice services. FET tax does not apply because the FCC continues to define VoIP services as a data, not telephony, service. State taxes vary by state and still represent a grey area in our opinion. If you ask any state PUC they will of course tell you that you must pay them for any and all services, including VoIP. But as someone else pointed out, check with legal counsel on this one in the state(s) in which you intend to provide service. Ron -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2008 10:49 AM To: WISPA List Subject: [WISPA] Taxes Are wireless Internet or VoIP services taxable? -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Insurance
I have a high-level friend within Marsh McLennan, and eventually got to their director of assn. marketing; they should finally have a conference call with Rick Harnish and a few other members next week. I positioned it with Marsh as a large number of companies that could inevitably take advantage of a compelling offer from a large insurer. Let's see if Rick and the team can do any good in negotiating something of interest. Marsh is also going to put a proposal in front of FISPA as well. I don't know if that will help you (and others), but I'm sure that Rick will keep you posted on progress or an offer to members. Usually there is strength in numbers...Ron -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Friday, September 12, 2008 2:21 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Insurance My agent sent me a proposal after I explained to him exactly what it is that we do. I called up the Hartford because the proposal didn't seem to reference anything specifically to being an Internet provider, just what seems to be a regular business policy with a Super Stretch for Technology and Software Service Providers endorsement. The guy I talked to on the phone said that they don't insure Internet Service Providers. ?!?! That's the company everyone here recommends. Is there some secret code to mention to get covered? I want my insurance to be there when I need it, but maybe there's a backdoor to get covered. If not, whom else will insure us? -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 9:31 AM To: WISPA List wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Insurance What do you guys have for insurance policies? I am working with my Hartford agent and I want to make sure I get what I need, but don't buy unnecessary policies. -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] [Motorola II] Internet + VoIP + ...efax?
Here is what our experience with fax over VoIP tells us: * Everyone knows that it is never 100% reliable over any VoIP network, Vox or otherwise * If you set your fax speed to 14.4 that will optimize the send and receive quality (faxing is sensitive to speed more than protocol) * Our experience is that you should expect 80% of faxes to work properly on our network. * Fax quality and consistency correlates directly with voice quality, dependent on the VoIP network and how it's managed. You know that not every VoIP network is created equal; some are much better than others. I will leave you be the judge regarding our network and service quality. * Sending may be slightly more reliable than receiving (I send documents all the time and my experinece has been very good, 90% or better) * Hi-speed 33.6 fax will not work over VoIP * Newer fax machines provide better results than older units * We do offer T.38 fax * We have not integrated eFax capability with our services This has been our experience with VoIP fax to this point; we have great developers and will continue to look for a foolproof solution over time. Because I work mostly out of my home I use eFax for inbound fax service because of the nature of my business - contracts and other legal documents. I hope this helps. Ron -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John McDowell Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 9:38 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Motorola II] Internet + VoIP + ...efax? Hi Butch, They do offer T.38 fax, I believe. But we have tested it and it only worked one time out of 5. Whether they have E-fax capabilities I don't know. Would love for a good fax solution to come around. John On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 1:59 PM, Butch Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 26 Aug 2008, John McDowell wrote: We've got Internet, we've got VoIP...now all we need is a faxing solution that works to convert businesses. Is anyone using a white label efax solution? Does anyone have a box that will let you do efax? Port local fax numbers? John, Have you spoken to your current VoIP provider regarding Fax over IP? I don't know if they do that, but it seems to me I heard they do. If so, perhaps they have a solution available that does eFax, too. I'm just guessing wildly on that part, as I don't know for sure if they do either one, but remembering a conversation I had with one of their tech guys, it seems to me he said that fax works over their current service (I haven't tested this at all). -- *Butch Evans*Professional Network Consultation * *Network Engineering*MikroTik RouterOS * *573-276-2879 *ImageStream * *http://www.butchevans.com/ *StarOS and MORE * *http://blog.butchevans.com/*Wired or wireless Networks* *Mikrotik Certified Consultant *Professional Technical Trainer* WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- John M. McDowell Boonlink Communications 307 Grand Ave NW Fort Payne, AL 35967 256.844.9932 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.boonlink.com This message contains information which may be confidential and privileged. Unless you are the addressee (or authorized to receive for the addressee), you may not use, copy, re-transmit, or disclose to anyone the message or any information contained in the message. If you have received the message in error, please advise the sender by reply e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED], and delete the message. E-mail communication is highly susceptible to spoofing, spamming, and other tampering, some of which may be harmful to your computer. If you are concerned about the authenticity of the message or the source, please contact the sender directly. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] I want to port their numbers!!!!
Yes, we source numbers from Level 3 and others. DID coverage is key to any successful digital voice program. There are some small mom-and-pop LECs that will not give up numbers because they a) don't want any competition, and b) don't have to. If we cannot get numbers in a particular rate center (RC), then we cannot port the number. But as a general rule, if we can get numbers, then the vast majority of the time, we can port that number. This is why we always ask our customers for targeted locations, based on rate center, or NPA/NXX, to determine if we can get numbers. In most cases, we can. Our current DID providers cover greater than 70% of the US. We also offer DID (and port) in Canada and Puerto Rico. Where we cannot get numbers, here are the options: 1.We search for a provider that has numbers, and we are always looking for more. But they have to be able to connect with us electronically, or we move on. Our process is fully automated from the time someone submits an order, it's untouched by human hands until the fedex label prints and we ship the ATA (if the service provider chooses to have us drop ship to their customers). Most WISPs chose to purchase ATAs in bulk to have the units on a truck and close to their market for immediate install. In that case they just activate the unit on line. Sometimes numbers are available, but without an automated process, we cannot make it work. 2.When DIDs are available to a particular RC, the provider has the option of providing a number from the nearest location. Many times we can get numbers from an alternative RC that still represents a local call for friends and neighbors. But if that fails, providing an alternative number from another rate center is more difficult to sell. Friends and family on the same service would of course call each other for free, but that's a more difficult marketing challenge. 3.The PRI route that John mentions has to be carefully considered. We have gone down this path for a few of our cable customers where they needed DIDs at a head end location and the numbers justified their investment. I'll share with you the facts (to the best of our knowledge) so you can make your own decision on this one. ATT has numbers in about 93-95% of the country. You could buy a PRI from ATT and likely pay $700-800 per month. We would order the PRI for you because we would need to be the administrative contact to order the DIDs. We would bill you the pass-through cost of the PRI. You can put about 200 customers on that PRI, oversubscribing by a factor of 10, knowing that only a portion of those customers will be on the phone at the same time. Thus you have to be able to recover that additional cost of about $4 per sub, once you reach the 200 level of customers (more until you get there). Then you need another PRI of course. But the inbound call from ATT will be TDM, which has to be converted to IP, so you will need to install a router at your location. We would recommend a specific CISCO router, which you would have to pay for and install, for about $10-12K. You would own the box, but send it to us to configure it for you. You would be responsible for the install, and of course the power back up, A/C, and Internet feed. You will likely be under water until you reach 100 customers on the PRI, still having to amortize the cost of the router. You are all subject-matter-experts and your expertise is better than mine on the technical nuances of what is required, and costs vary by market. If you wish to pursue option 3, we will work with you to make it painless (except for the cost side of the equation). So the PRI route is only undertaken in unique circumstances where you are comfortable that the market potential justifies the investment. In the past we have owned 3 CLECs and consider ourselves good at porting numbers. As I said, we can port the vast majority, but only where we can get numbers assigned. And not every LEC has to sell you their numbers. Sorry for the long treatise on the issue, but it's complicated as you can see. I'm not trying to sell you in this case; rather I'm just describing our experience, our process, and your exposure. For those of you that are Vox customers, be sure to work with us to determine where numbers are available before you invest in that market, assuming that digital voice is an important component for ARPU and payback criteria. I will share with you that one of our fastest growing customers is a WISP, and they are experiencing a 92% take rate on voice with their new broadband customers. I hope that helps. I trust you will tell me where you disagree with me. :-) Ron -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Liotta Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 4:15 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] I want to port their numbers Yes, but you probably require a
Re: [WISPA] I want to port their numbers!!!!
John: Let me know what our porting guru says tomorrow. She's good, but does not work as many hours as I do! Ron -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John McDowell Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 7:13 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] I want to port their numbers This was an email from a Rep at the Coop when one of my employees tried to port their home number to their new Vox/Boonlink ATA: Mr. Williamson, First, a Trading Partner Profile (TPP) is an agreement between two communications companies that allows the sharing of necessary information (Name, Company Codes, Addresses, and other required technical information) and sometimes serves as an unofficial agreement between the companies. You don't have to do anything for FTC and Voxcorp to exchange a TPP. However, Voxcorp must submit a bona fide request (BFR) to FTC requesting the ability to port numbers (which they've not done), and then the two companies would exchange the TPPs or exchange other industry standard agreements to allow port processing. Voxcorp has never requested the ability to port numbers with FTC. All they have to do is request, through normal FCC procedures, the ability to port, and then FTC will move forward with the porting process. They cannot, however, just send a request to port the number to them and expect us to process that request. They know that, as a communications company, they must follow FCC mandated processes before we can move forward. It is illegal for either company to do so otherwise. If their representative will contact me, send a BFR, and then we will move forward with the process. Otherwise, there is nothing FTC can do. Please be assured that the statement that your VoIP company .could not get Farmers to port my number is not an accurate or true statement. Your VoIP company hasn't used any of the industry standard procedures, to my knowledge, to attempt to port your number. FTC has no reason to stop this process. If you do successfully port your local number to your VoIP provider, then your local landline service will be disconnected. We will have to disconnect your DSL as well. If this happens, consider that you will have to have another high speed internet provider for your VoIP service to work. Also, there are safety considerations as to the effectiveness of emergency service calls (911, etc...) when using a VoIP service. Please be informed of all the details surrounding these issues. Your VoIP provider should be able to provide you with all of the related information. You may already be aware of all of this, but there are several items to consider before disconnecting your local service. I hope this information helps you. Let me know if I can be of more assistance. Feel free to contact us at anytime. Sincerely, Chris Townson On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 6:07 PM, Chuck McCown - 3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't think that exemption applied to LNP. It did for a while to keep CLECs out of the rural areas but that has now sunset. - Original Message - From: Anthony Will [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 3:17 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] I want to port their numbers If you take a look at the exemption they have to have less then 50,000 phone numbers or lines. I can't remember which. Do a bit of research on it and find the exact clause that enables them to do that. Most likely they are to large to qualify. Then send them a nice letter from a nice attorney. Also be ready for the long haul. They will fight it just to keep you and others from coming in if they are in the right or not. It would be a good idea to find some others in your area with a interest in this such as the local cable company or others that would want the same thing. Pool your resource and make it look like you and your partners are as big as they come. Anthony Will Broadband Corp. http://www.broadband-mn.com John McDowell wrote: Local Cooperative Telco will not let us port. What is my work around? Order PRI to our tower in their territory? We're working with VoxCorp, so they have to be able to grab those numbers even if we do something like this.. Verizon Wireless has local numbers with this company for their cellular, and it has to be because they have towers in their territory with PRIs??? Somebody have a solution? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] I want to port their numbers!!!!
Sorry...I meant to say that I will let you know... It must be time to pull the plug for the day! Ron -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ron Harden Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 7:45 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] I want to port their numbers John: Let me know what our porting guru says tomorrow. She's good, but does not work as many hours as I do! Ron -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John McDowell Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 7:13 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] I want to port their numbers This was an email from a Rep at the Coop when one of my employees tried to port their home number to their new Vox/Boonlink ATA: Mr. Williamson, First, a Trading Partner Profile (TPP) is an agreement between two communications companies that allows the sharing of necessary information (Name, Company Codes, Addresses, and other required technical information) and sometimes serves as an unofficial agreement between the companies. You don't have to do anything for FTC and Voxcorp to exchange a TPP. However, Voxcorp must submit a bona fide request (BFR) to FTC requesting the ability to port numbers (which they've not done), and then the two companies would exchange the TPPs or exchange other industry standard agreements to allow port processing. Voxcorp has never requested the ability to port numbers with FTC. All they have to do is request, through normal FCC procedures, the ability to port, and then FTC will move forward with the porting process. They cannot, however, just send a request to port the number to them and expect us to process that request. They know that, as a communications company, they must follow FCC mandated processes before we can move forward. It is illegal for either company to do so otherwise. If their representative will contact me, send a BFR, and then we will move forward with the process. Otherwise, there is nothing FTC can do. Please be assured that the statement that your VoIP company .could not get Farmers to port my number is not an accurate or true statement. Your VoIP company hasn't used any of the industry standard procedures, to my knowledge, to attempt to port your number. FTC has no reason to stop this process. If you do successfully port your local number to your VoIP provider, then your local landline service will be disconnected. We will have to disconnect your DSL as well. If this happens, consider that you will have to have another high speed internet provider for your VoIP service to work. Also, there are safety considerations as to the effectiveness of emergency service calls (911, etc...) when using a VoIP service. Please be informed of all the details surrounding these issues. Your VoIP provider should be able to provide you with all of the related information. You may already be aware of all of this, but there are several items to consider before disconnecting your local service. I hope this information helps you. Let me know if I can be of more assistance. Feel free to contact us at anytime. Sincerely, Chris Townson On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 6:07 PM, Chuck McCown - 3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't think that exemption applied to LNP. It did for a while to keep CLECs out of the rural areas but that has now sunset. - Original Message - From: Anthony Will [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 3:17 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] I want to port their numbers If you take a look at the exemption they have to have less then 50,000 phone numbers or lines. I can't remember which. Do a bit of research on it and find the exact clause that enables them to do that. Most likely they are to large to qualify. Then send them a nice letter from a nice attorney. Also be ready for the long haul. They will fight it just to keep you and others from coming in if they are in the right or not. It would be a good idea to find some others in your area with a interest in this such as the local cable company or others that would want the same thing. Pool your resource and make it look like you and your partners are as big as they come. Anthony Will Broadband Corp. http://www.broadband-mn.com John McDowell wrote: Local Cooperative Telco will not let us port. What is my work around? Order PRI to our tower in their territory? We're working with VoxCorp, so they have to be able to grab those numbers even if we do something like this.. Verizon Wireless has local numbers with this company for their cellular, and it has to be because they have towers in their territory with PRIs??? Somebody have a solution? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org
Re: [WISPA] I want to port their numbers!!!!
No doubt I should have picked this up before Chuck, but what is the animal farm event? Yes if I can contibute and work it out with my schedule, what ever it is. Ron -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown - 3 Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 7:12 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] I want to port their numbers Ron, Do you want to present at AnimalFarm this winter? I think this topic would be very interesting for all. - Original Message - From: Ron Harden [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 4:56 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] I want to port their numbers Yes, we source numbers from Level 3 and others. DID coverage is key to any successful digital voice program. There are some small mom-and-pop LECs that will not give up numbers because they a) don't want any competition, and b) don't have to. If we cannot get numbers in a particular rate center (RC), then we cannot port the number. But as a general rule, if we can get numbers, then the vast majority of the time, we can port that number. This is why we always ask our customers for targeted locations, based on rate center, or NPA/NXX, to determine if we can get numbers. In most cases, we can. Our current DID providers cover greater than 70% of the US. We also offer DID (and port) in Canada and Puerto Rico. Where we cannot get numbers, here are the options: 1.We search for a provider that has numbers, and we are always looking for more. But they have to be able to connect with us electronically, or we move on. Our process is fully automated from the time someone submits an order, it's untouched by human hands until the fedex label prints and we ship the ATA (if the service provider chooses to have us drop ship to their customers). Most WISPs chose to purchase ATAs in bulk to have the units on a truck and close to their market for immediate install. In that case they just activate the unit on line. Sometimes numbers are available, but without an automated process, we cannot make it work. 2.When DIDs are available to a particular RC, the provider has the option of providing a number from the nearest location. Many times we can get numbers from an alternative RC that still represents a local call for friends and neighbors. But if that fails, providing an alternative number from another rate center is more difficult to sell. Friends and family on the same service would of course call each other for free, but that's a more difficult marketing challenge. 3.The PRI route that John mentions has to be carefully considered. We have gone down this path for a few of our cable customers where they needed DIDs at a head end location and the numbers justified their investment. I'll share with you the facts (to the best of our knowledge) so you can make your own decision on this one. ATT has numbers in about 93-95% of the country. You could buy a PRI from ATT and likely pay $700-800 per month. We would order the PRI for you because we would need to be the administrative contact to order the DIDs. We would bill you the pass-through cost of the PRI. You can put about 200 customers on that PRI, oversubscribing by a factor of 10, knowing that only a portion of those customers will be on the phone at the same time. Thus you have to be able to recover that additional cost of about $4 per sub, once you reach the 200 level of customers (more until you get there). Then you need another PRI of course. But the inbound call from ATT will be TDM, which has to be converted to IP, so you will need to install a router at your location. We would recommend a specific CISCO router, which you would have to pay for and install, for about $10-12K. You would own the box, but send it to us to configure it for you. You would be responsible for the install, and of course the power back up, A/C, and Internet feed. You will likely be under water until you reach 100 customers on the PRI, still having to amortize the cost of the router. You are all subject-matter-experts and your expertise is better than mine on the technical nuances of what is required, and costs vary by market. If you wish to pursue option 3, we will work with you to make it painless (except for the cost side of the equation). So the PRI route is only undertaken in unique circumstances where you are comfortable that the market potential justifies the investment. In the past we have owned 3 CLECs and consider ourselves good at porting numbers. As I said, we can port the vast majority, but only where we can get numbers assigned. And not every LEC has to sell you their numbers. Sorry for the long treatise on the issue, but it's complicated as you can see. I'm not trying to sell you in this case; rather I'm just describing our