Re: [WISPA] SonicWall Proxy-ARP
This will bring this OT, but I'd like to ask what is a good option for a gateway router for a SMB. I have been running ClearOS for a business with 3 branches, with VPN's between each branch. So far I've been using ClearOS for an All-in-one box, but I'm not sure if that is the best way to do it. Was considering to do a Sonicwall for the gateway and VPN and then keep using the ClearOS for everything else. Other options? Draytek? pfSense? Mikrotik? anything else? I want to have filtering at the gateway - fairly advanced filtering as some users have filtered access, some blanket block with only a white list of open sites and others would be behind a 'HotLAN' - free wifi. Mark On 04/14/2011 08:19 AM, Jeremy Parr wrote: Friends don't let friends use sonicwalls. On 4/13/11, Jerry Richardson jrichard...@aircloud.com wrote: Anyone know how to turn this off? We can't find the setting. Had an issue where the SonicWall answered ARP requests from our edge router for about 150 IP's apparently I'm not the first. Jerry WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Content Filter
ClearOS - CentOS based and very clean web interface. if you want updates to dansguardian rules you have to pay for a subscription. On 11/07/2010 06:41 PM, Stuart Pierce wrote: untangle.com ? -- Original Message -- From: Scott Vander Dussen sc...@velociter.net Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Sun, 7 Nov 2010 15:49:58 -0800 Recommendations on content filtering software? I'm aware of OpenDNS, thanks.. `S Sent via the WebMail system at avolve.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Content Filter
I've been using it for several businesses as an all in one server; gateway, file server, cache and content filter. For the content filter, I use the Block all feature and then add exempt sites and exempt users as I need - for a specific business that needed such a setup. Works very well. It used to be Clark Connect, so it's been used in production environments for years. On 11/08/2010 08:52 AM, Jason Hensley wrote: Wow, this is a great looking piece of software. Does it work as well as it looks? They're obviously not touting themselves for large organizations but for a small office that doesn't want to fork out $1500 for a Sonicwall or something similar this might be just want they need. Thanks for the info! -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mark Dueck Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 7:42 AM To: spie...@avolve.net; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Content Filter ClearOS - CentOS based and very clean web interface. if you want updates to dansguardian rules you have to pay for a subscription. On 11/07/2010 06:41 PM, Stuart Pierce wrote: untangle.com ? -- Original Message -- From: Scott Vander Dussen sc...@velociter.net Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Sun, 7 Nov 2010 15:49:58 -0800 Recommendations on content filtering software? I'm aware of OpenDNS, thanks.. `S Sent via the WebMail system at avolve.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Looking for Bandwidth Manager
I know of some guys that are using SoftPerfect for small networks. I'm not sure how it scales or how the interface works. eg. if you can import rules or if you have to manually create all of them. If you simply want to limit bandwidth for each customer to their speed, MasterShapper will work. www.mastershapper.org It uses a MySQL database so you can nicely import all the rules into the tables. jessdk has some very nice tutorials in the forums on how to build it with debian. On 10/14/2010 05:40 PM, Forbes Mercy wrote: Ya know I'd be a lot more patient for the smart a$$ comments if I didn't have to live through this, I've hired the best guys on this list to solve it and the only answer I get in the end is that shouldn't happen. I can be non-geek enough to know if I can't hire the fix it ain't gonna work. All the loyalists to a certain brand be it Mikrotik or Mac users can either say 'if he can't make that work here's our suggestion' or come sit in my chair for a while and wait for the hundreds of calls when a piece of gear just drops for no reason. I've avoided Windows like the plague and run a 100% linux back end, every ISP I bought I converted to my format, you don't have to tell me horror stories I've been in this business since the beginning. I'm inferring to a more GUI type interface, hell it could be redhat for all I know, I'm looking for solutions not preferences. On 10/14/2010 4:27 PM, Jeremy Parr wrote: Splendid idea there guy, replace Mikrotik with a Windows box. Gotta wonder I'd the problem is between the keyboard and the chair here. On 10/14/10, Forbes Mercyforbes.me...@wabroadband.com wrote: In my mission to rid our network of Mikrotik I need to shop for a new bandwidth manager since mine likes to randomly drop one of the ports or bridge, and reset the route gateway (twice already this week). I'm looking for a more friendly windows type based unit, any suggestions. Thanks, Forbes WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Rocket to Tranzeo (AirMax off)
I know that the NSM2 do not work with any older tranzeo AP's ( 6000, 6600). They do work with the newer EL500. This is all for 2.4. I have not tested anything it 5Ghz. On 09/29/2010 12:22 PM, Jerry Richardson wrote: I have a Tranzeo on a tower that will eventually be replaced with an AirMax sector. I need to do a site survey before we make the change to AirMax. Any reason a Rocket or NS5M will not connect to the Tranzeo with AirMax off (standard 802.11A) Jerry WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Carrier pigeons faster then rural wierless?
I have to agree Satellite internet sux!!.. I'm supporting a few companies that have Sat, and it's so unstable. 2:30pm till around 8:00pm you get about 1/4th the speed you're paying for. Pings too are terrible, but I can't quite believe people are complaining about 30ms pings. Here in Belize I'm happy if I get 40's. and 40's are basically instant -- at least for the stuff I do.. Never gamed on it, so maybe I would complain if I was a gamer. On 09/22/2010 08:56 PM, Jason Bailey wrote: satellite internet sux! Try and argue!discussion has ended --- On Wed, 9/22/10, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com Subject: Re: [WISPA] Carrier pigeons faster then rural wierless? To: fai...@snappydsl.net, "'WISPA General List'" wireless@wispa.org Date: Wednesday, September 22, 2010, 10:51 PM Yep, just checked the log.. 6 lost packets. DAMN YOU FAISAL!! Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Faisal Imtiaz Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 10:41 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Carrier pigeons faster then rural wierless? Ah. Feeling rather full after dinner.. Bob.. Count your pigeons to see if any of them are missing.. Oh Boy !... The Stuffed Pigeons we had for dinner were very delicious...! :) Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom On 9/22/2010 10:08 PM, Robert West wrote: That's about UK Pigeons. US pigeons are MUCH faster! My pigeons have a 13ms ping, verified by Speed Test .Net. I'm really getting tired of pigeon bashing by the media. It all depends on the flock. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of John Thomas Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 6:43 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Carrier pigeons faster then rural wierless? http://www.zdnet.com/blog/networking/it-8217s-official-carrier-pigeons -are-f aster-than-rural-internet/173?tag=nl.e539 -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Carrier pigeons faster then rural wierless?
That is so true, and it reminds me of my son's favorite quote from Ice Age 2 - copied from knol.google.com: The adults were in the big part of the water park, while their children were in the daycare center to have time by their selves. Not far from the pool, an animal and his wife were on a little ice cliff. The husband was sitting, fanning himself, while his wife just lay down. "Boy! This global warming is killing me!" he said. "This is too hot," the wife complained. "And the ice is too cold. The husband rolled his eyes and put his chin in his paw, clearly aggravated. "What will it take to make you happy?" Then the part of the ice his wife was laying on broke and she fell in the water with a scream. The husband then shifted so he was comfortable again. "This, I like!" he said, smiling, happily grinning. Mark On 09/22/2010 10:22 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: People are never happy. On Sep 23, 2010 12:20 AM, "Mark Dueck" m...@netking.bz wrote: WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Akamai / other caching servers
I'll repeat the same.. you're lucky if you can get it at 1000/ 6 meg. I pay 1000/ 1Mb here.. it's crazy. On 09/02/2010 10:16 PM, Scottie Arnett wrote: Consider yourself lucky...in theREAL rural areas we pay over $1000/mth for 6 meg connections. Scott - Original Message - From: Travis Johnson To: WISPA General List Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 8:05 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Akamai / other caching servers I have two OC-3 connections (155Mbps) and one OC-12 connection (620Mbps)... and even at those levels, I still average $50/meg as my hard cost. I am selling 10Mbps x 10Mbps dedicated connections to businesses and schools, etc. for $500/month. Travis Microserv On 9/1/2010 5:34 PM, Mike wrote: I too would love to know that formula. I doubt if it would work in rural Tama County Iowa. Most businesses are agribusiness (i.e. farmers) and I already have most of them in my footprint. My biggest obstacle right now is finding cheap bandwidth. So even a statement that bandwidth is cheap right now does not apply to me. Friendly Regards, Mike From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Chuck Hogg Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 6:26 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Akamai / other caching servers I wish I had $500/mth business customers to sign up everyday! Regards, Chuck On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 7:09 PM, Travis Johnson t...@ida.net wrote: Been there, done ALL of that. Not worth the headaches. Bandwidth is CHEAP now... time is still the most valuable thing in this business... I can spend hours messing, tweaking, fighting, adjusting, etc. a cache proxy, or in that same amount of time I can go install a business connection for $500/month and pay for ANY additional bandwidth it may save me. And I can do this every day. :) Travis Microserv On 9/1/2010 2:29 PM, Blake Covarrubias wrote: On Sep 1, 2010, at 5:14 AM, Travis Johnson wrote: Yes, but the bandwidth savings are not worth the headaches (another box or two to maintain, some sites don't like to be cached, customer support calls, web sites blocking a certain IP address because ALL the traffic from your network is coming from the cache server IP, etc.). Its possible to prevent Squid from caching certain sites. Just create an ACL to deny caching them. Still too much to maintain? Deny caching all content by default, then create an ACL which only allows caching of sites you choose. If you don't want your proxy requests sourced from a single IP then use TProxy (http://wiki.squid-cache.org/Features/Tproxy4). With this your proxy can be fully transparent appearing as if the requests were sourced directly from a client instead of your Squid box. Get a Cisco router and redirect traffic to Squid using WCCP. If your Squid box dies the router automatically stops redirecting the traffic, and your users continue to surf the web normally. -- Blake Covarrubias WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join
Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo lockups
That confirms my feeling. I've noticed that there was a much higher chance it would crash if there was a lot of traffic. Some of these radios are fairly new and not daisy chained. I'll work towards replacing all critical backhaul links to UBNT or MT. On 08/31/2010 06:51 AM, Phil Curnutt wrote: I have found that happening most often on radio's that are daisy chained, especially older ones. Luckily as most of our radio's are on the roof's of members there is someone there to power cycle them, or a call to some one on the other side of it to power cycle it through the on site power controller. It also depends on how much traffic is going through them. Phil On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 6:40 AM, Stuart Pierce spie...@avolve.net wrote: How old are they and what models may answer be the answer to why the lock up when you change them. I've got one TR-5a that I know I should go to be able to power cycle it if I make a change, and it's a few years old. -- Original Message -- From: Mark Dueck m...@netking.bz Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2010 22:05:15 -0600 I've been having quite a bit of problems with Tranzeo radios not coming back online if I make a change to them remotely. Usualy this is with AP's or backhaul links. I'd say about 30% of the time they will not come back after making a change. Is anyone else experiencing this? Does UBNT ever have that problem, or MT? Mark WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ Sent via the WebMail system at avolve.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo lockups
Thanks Patrick; I was thinking about doing that too. On 08/31/2010 08:25 PM, Patrick Leary wrote: Just as an FYI folks, After seeing this thread I sent it to the Tranzeo guys and they taking a look at it. Please do, when you encounter issues such as these, report them to your vendor (regardless of brand). Getting a record, finding trends, etc. is the only way a vendor can uncover issues, then do root cause analysis and create fixes as necessary. I appreciate the value of seeking out list advice, but please remember to give your vendor a head's up too. Matt, et al, thanks for offering your advice. I passed those along as well. Cheers, Patrick Patrick Leary Aperto Networks (A Tranzeo Company) 813.426.4230 mobile -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Matt Larsen - Lists Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 2:11 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo lockups If you are using Tranzeo TR5a, 49a or AP6000 series radios running in PtP mode on an all bridged network, they will lock up. Newer firmware helps, but does not completely resolve this problem. I ran in to this very problem recently while troubleshooting a client's network. It may not be the perfect solution, but one thing you could do that is quick an simple is install some of the Digital Loggers auto-ping/reboot devices at any site where you have a Tranzeo backhaul. Turn on the autoping to test for the opposite side of the link and you won't have to make any more drives. Matt Larsen vistabeam.com On 8/31/2010 9:50 AM, Steve Barnes wrote: I have 400+ Tranzeo CPQ's out and never have an issue with them not rebooting after a change. However I would never use a Tranzeo for an AP. Mikrotik AP to Tranzeo = stability and control. More info please: Models, Firmware, AP connecting to. (did you know there is a Tranzeo list on the WISPA list serve?) Steve Barnes General Manager PCS-WIN RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mark Dueck Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 12:05 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Tranzeo lockups I've been having quite a bit of problems with Tranzeo radios not coming back online if I make a change to them remotely. Usualy this is with AP's or backhaul links. I'd say about 30% of the time they will not come back after making a change. Is anyone else experiencing this? Does UBNT ever have that problem, or MT? Mark -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo lockups
I have to agree that I've never seen this with the client radios. All my radios are up-to-date firmware. Will look into the Tranzeo list for next time. On 08/31/2010 09:50 AM, Steve Barnes wrote: I have 400+ Tranzeo CPQ's out and never have an issue with them not rebooting after a change. However I would never use a Tranzeo for an AP. Mikrotik AP to Tranzeo = stability and control. More info please: Models, Firmware, AP connecting to. (did you know there is a Tranzeo list on the WISPA list serve?) Steve Barnes General Manager PCS-WIN RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mark Dueck Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 12:05 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Tranzeo lockups I've been having quite a bit of problems with Tranzeo radios not coming back online if I make a change to them remotely. Usualy this is with AP's or backhaul links. I'd say about 30% of the time they will not come back after making a change. Is anyone else experiencing this? Does UBNT ever have that problem, or MT? Mark WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Suggestions for high bandwidth @ 25 miles.
I can tell you not more than 14 miles because I did a 14mile link with these for 3 weeks. It was better than no link, but they were not stable. I was getting about 512k throughput. On 08/30/2010 09:24 PM, Jerry Richardson wrote: Distance? - Jerry From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 8:16 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Suggestions for high bandwidth @ 25 miles. I have NSM5 that do 150 megs aggregate right now. On Aug 30, 2010 11:09 PM, "MDK" rea...@muddyfrogwater.us wrote: I've already got UBNT stuff in production, and I know without a doubt it won't handle 100m full duplex - especially at 25 miles. Might be possible to do parallel links or something, but that would require some kind of load failover system at each end, since no way will it do 100 m one way, if there's any backward traffic. What Proxim stuff? ++ Neofast, Inc, Making internet easy 541-969-8200 509-386-4589 +... From: "Josh Luthman" j...@imaginenetworksllc.com Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 4:22 PM To: "WISPA General List" wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Suggestions for high bandwidth @ 25 miles. Proxim, Ubiquiti M... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne ... WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Tranzeo lockups
I've been having quite a bit of problems with Tranzeo radios not coming back online if I make a change to them remotely. Usualy this is with AP's or backhaul links. I'd say about 30% of the time they will not come back after making a change. Is anyone else experiencing this? Does UBNT ever have that problem, or MT? Mark WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Suggestions for high bandwidth @ 25 miles.
Ok, mine was with integrated 16dbi antenna. It was not my plan to use them, but the other radios did not come up, so had to resort to the NS5.. I know don't even remember if they were M's or not. On 08/30/2010 10:06 PM, Jason Bailey wrote: 14 mile link,bullet m5 w/pac 28db grids40+each way,for months. --- On Tue, 8/31/10, Mark Dueck m...@netking.bz wrote: From: Mark Dueck m...@netking.bz Subject: Re: [WISPA] Suggestions for high bandwidth @ 25 miles. To: wireless@wispa.org Date: Tuesday, August 31, 2010, 12:02 AM I can tell you not more than 14 miles because I did a 14mile link with these for 3 weeks. It was better than no link, but they were not stable. I was getting about 512k throughput. On 08/30/2010 09:24 PM, Jerry Richardson wrote: Distance? - Jerry From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 8:16 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Suggestions for high bandwidth @ 25 miles. I have NSM5 that do 150 megs aggregate right now. On Aug 30, 2010 11:09 PM, "MDK" rea...@muddyfrogwater.us wrote: I've already got UBNT stuff in production, and I know without a doubt it won't handle 100m full duplex - especially at 25 miles. Might be possible to do parallel links or something, but that would require some kind of load failover system at each end, since no way will it do 100 m one way, if there's any backward traffic. What Proxim stuff? ++ Neofast, Inc, Making internet easy 541-969-8200 509-386-4589 +... From: "Josh Luthman" j...@imaginenetworksllc.com Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 4:22 PM To: "WISPA General List" wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Suggestions for high bandwidth @ 25 miles. Proxim, Ubiquiti M... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne ... WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -Inline Attachment Follows- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Suggestions for high bandwidth @ 25 miles.
I know. I had trazeo FDD radios that other guys had prepared and 'tested.' Their testing was putting them back to back. Like that, even with the wrong channel shields they connected. I was already suspicious about them not working, so I put up the NS5's as a backup plan, put their power all the way down, and set channel width to 5Mhz. When I got to the other side and I could not link with the FDD's, I logged in through someone else's connection to the Nano at the other side and changed both side's settings till they came up. It was awesome to at least link, but it was not stable enough to keep them up. I'd say the link was up about 90% of the time. This brings me to another question. Do radios get damage by not having an antenna connected when powering up? Say just to configure them. On 08/30/2010 10:28 PM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote: Please do not take this as a personal jab... If one does not do their homework on link calculation , and size the equipment properly... What makes one think that they should be successful with the Link ? And on top of that what give one the right to 'Dismiss' the whole Mfg's product line for such results... :) Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom On 8/31/2010 12:17 AM, Mark Dueck wrote: Ok, mine was with integrated 16dbi antenna. It was not my plan to use them, but the other radios did not come up, so had to resort to the NS5.. I know don't even remember if they were M's or not. On 08/30/2010 10:06 PM, Jason Bailey wrote: 14 mile link,bullet m5 w/pac 28db grids40+each way,for months. --- On *Tue, 8/31/10, Mark Dueck /m...@netking.bz/* wrote: From: Mark Dueck m...@netking.bz Subject: Re: [WISPA] Suggestions for high bandwidth @ 25 miles. To: wireless@wispa.org Date: Tuesday, August 31, 2010, 12:02 AM I can tell you not more than 14 miles because I did a 14mile link with these for 3 weeks. It was better than no link, but they were not stable. I was getting about 512k throughput. On 08/30/2010 09:24 PM, Jerry Richardson wrote: Distance? - Jerry *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org http://us.mc525.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org http://us.mc525.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman *Sent:* Monday, August 30, 2010 8:16 PM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Suggestions for high bandwidth @ 25 miles. I have NSM5 that do 150 megs aggregate right now. On Aug 30, 2010 11:09 PM, MDK rea...@muddyfrogwater.us http://us.mc525.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=rea...@muddyfrogwater.us wrote: I've already got UBNT stuff in production, and I know without a doubt it won't handle 100m full duplex - especially at 25 miles. Might be possible to do parallel links or something, but that would require some kind of load failover system at each end, since no way will it do 100 m one way, if there's any backward traffic. What Proxim stuff? ++ Neofast, Inc, Making internet easy 541-969-8200 509-386-4589 +... From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com http://us.mc525.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=j...@imaginenetworksllc.com Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 4:22 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org http://us.mc525.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=wirel...@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Suggestions for high bandwidth @ 25 miles. Proxim, Ubiquiti M... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne ... WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List:wireless@wispa.org http://us.mc525.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=wirel...@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives:http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -Inline Attachment Follows- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org http://us.mc525.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=wirel...@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http
Re: [WISPA] no net but ping works
I found the RTS settings in the NS2's ..I have never messed with the RTS settings. Should I change the NS2s to the 3000 that the SL2's have?? On 08/26/2010 07:56 AM, Ryan Spott wrote: Hey Mark, How many CPE are attached to your AP? Have you adjusted RTS/CTS Settings? Take a look here: http://www.tranzeofaq.com/RTS-CTS.html ryan On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 9:09 PM, Mark Dueck m...@netking.bz wrote: I don't think it's a DNS because most clients that are complaining are from one AP. Today I got one that's from a diff AP that said their net was intermittent. I myself am browsing on the same network and never experience that problem. I have the same settings. Mostly Tranzeo SL2's as clients, with 2 PowerStations as AP's. The rest of the AP's are all Tranzeo. All clients are routed internally, but after the client radio everything is bridged. I rebooted the gateway to clear the arp cache, but clients are still experiencing the same problem. Could it cause a problem with the fact that the gateway is multiwan and 2 of it's wan's are on the same network as the clients, but different subnet. I know I need to VLAN, but had some issues with VLAN not connecting. On 08/25/2010 05:51 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: What kind of radios? You sure it isn't a problem with the DNS servers? On Aug 25, 2010 7:44 PM, Mark Dueck m...@netking.bz wrote: Hi, I've got some issues on my network with clients complaining they have no internet. When I come around, as soon as I ping gateway and then google dns, the browsing is back up. I showed a client how to do this, and he says whenever his internet goes down, as soon as he pings it's right back up. Anyone have ideas why this could happen? Thanks, Mark WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] no net but ping works
I went to a client again, and did some nslookups. here's what I found: All radios are setup as dns relay. When I got to the client, he had no internet. I first did a nslookup to google.com, and the radio responded with unknown. I changed radio to dns relay off and added 8.8.8.8 as a secondary dns. I still got no response. When I then pinged 8.8.8.8, there was no response either, but pinging the gateway, I got immediate response. The pinging 8.8.8.8 and internet all started working.. This was an SL2 with the RTS at 3000.. I'm also getting this report from other clients that are not connected to that AP, so I don't think it's an RTS issue. Any other ideas? On 08/26/2010 09:23 AM, Mark Dueck wrote: I found the RTS settings in the NS2's ..I have never messed with the RTS settings. Should I change the NS2s to the 3000 that the SL2's have?? On 08/26/2010 07:56 AM, Ryan Spott wrote: Hey Mark, How many CPE are attached to your AP? Have you adjusted RTS/CTS Settings? Take a look here: http://www.tranzeofaq.com/RTS-CTS.html ryan On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 9:09 PM, Mark Dueck m...@netking.bz wrote: I don't think it's a DNS because most clients that are complaining are from one AP. Today I got one that's from a diff AP that said their net was intermittent. I myself am browsing on the same network and never experience that problem. I have the same settings. Mostly Tranzeo SL2's as clients, with 2 PowerStations as AP's. The rest of the AP's are all Tranzeo. All clients are routed internally, but after the client radio everything is bridged. I rebooted the gateway to clear the arp cache, but clients are still experiencing the same problem. Could it cause a problem with the fact that the gateway is multiwan and 2 of it's wan's are on the same network as the clients, but different subnet. I know I need to VLAN, but had some issues with VLAN not connecting. On 08/25/2010 05:51 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: What kind of radios? You sure it isn't a problem with the DNS servers? On Aug 25, 2010 7:44 PM, Mark Dueck m...@netking.bz wrote: Hi, I've got some issues on my network with clients complaining they have no internet. When I come around, as soon as I ping gateway and then google dns, the browsing is back up. I showed a client how to do this, and he says whenever his internet goes down, as soon as he pings it's right back up. Anyone have ideas why this could happen? Thanks, Mark WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] no net but ping works
I have about 25 clients on this AP. I think only 2 of them are NS2's, the rest are SL2's and they are all updated to 5.0.4 firmware, which has the fix for the limited connections that the 4.x firmware had. All the Tranzeo's have their RTS at 3000, their default. I checked the NS2's, but I can't find that setting in the webGUI. How do I check/change that? On 08/26/2010 07:56 AM, Ryan Spott wrote: Hey Mark, How many CPE are attached to your AP? Have you adjusted RTS/CTS Settings? Take a look here: http://www.tranzeofaq.com/RTS-CTS.html ryan On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 9:09 PM, Mark Dueck m...@netking.bz wrote: I don't think it's a DNS because most clients that are complaining are from one AP. Today I got one that's from a diff AP that said their net was intermittent. I myself am browsing on the same network and never experience that problem. I have the same settings. Mostly Tranzeo SL2's as clients, with 2 PowerStations as AP's. The rest of the AP's are all Tranzeo. All clients are routed internally, but after the client radio everything is bridged. I rebooted the gateway to clear the arp cache, but clients are still experiencing the same problem. Could it cause a problem with the fact that the gateway is multiwan and 2 of it's wan's are on the same network as the clients, but different subnet. I know I need to VLAN, but had some issues with VLAN not connecting. On 08/25/2010 05:51 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: What kind of radios? You sure it isn't a problem with the DNS servers? On Aug 25, 2010 7:44 PM, Mark Dueck m...@netking.bz wrote: Hi, I've got some issues on my network with clients complaining they have no internet. When I come around, as soon as I ping gateway and then google dns, the browsing is back up. I showed a client how to do this, and he says whenever his internet goes down, as soon as he pings it's right back up. Anyone have ideas why this could happen? Thanks, Mark WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] no net but ping works
Customer can get to CPE all the time. This customer had the CPE plugged into switch, then from switch to laptop. I was able to ping AP all the time, and I'm running nagios for monitoring, and I never see any issues. Network seeps to be quite stable, and whenever I ping any clients, even if I ping every .2 seconds, I don't see any problems either. Client can call and say they have no net, and when I ping them it makes no difference. I guess its quite clear now it's an ARP issue. How do I fix that? Most of my links are PtP. APs are all bridged. POPs are mostly bridged too, and the one POP that routed is not having any problems. I'm running ClearOS for my gateway. It has very nice multiwan and I'm using it at the same time for DNS caching. All clients use it for DNS. At what point should I consider putting up a dedicated DNS server? currently have about 60 clients. On 08/26/2010 10:46 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: What is the PC's gateway? Can the customer get to the CPE all the time? Can they get to the AP? Is it just customers behind this AP with the issue? Need to isolate where and what the issue is. Seems to be entirely Ethernet on some CPEs. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 12:38 PM, Mark Dueck m...@netking.bz wrote: I went to a client again, and did some nslookups. here's what I found: All radios are setup as dns relay. When I got to the client, he had no internet. I first did a nslookup to google.com, and the radio responded with unknown. I changed radio to dns relay off and added 8.8.8.8 as a secondary dns. I still got no response. When I then pinged 8.8.8.8, there was no response either, but pinging the gateway, I got immediate response. The pinging 8.8.8.8 and internet all started working.. This was an SL2 with the RTS at 3000.. I'm also getting this report from other clients that are not connected to that AP, so I don't think it's an RTS issue. Any other ideas? On 08/26/2010 09:23 AM, Mark Dueck wrote: I found the RTS settings in the NS2's ..I have never messed with the RTS settings. Should I change the NS2s to the 3000 that the SL2's have?? On 08/26/2010 07:56 AM, Ryan Spott wrote: Hey Mark, How many CPE are attached to your AP? Have you adjusted RTS/CTS Settings? Take a look here: http://www.tranzeofaq.com/RTS-CTS.html ryan On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 9:09 PM, Mark Dueck m...@netking.bz wrote: I don't think it's a DNS because most clients that are complaining are from one AP. Today I got one that's from a diff AP that said their net was intermittent. I myself am browsing on the same network and never experience that problem. I have the same settings. Mostly Tranzeo SL2's as clients, with 2 PowerStations as AP's. The rest of the AP's are all Tranzeo. All clients are routed internally, but after the client radio everything is bridged. I rebooted the gateway to clear the arp cache, but clients are still experiencing the same problem. Could it cause a problem with the fact that the gateway is multiwan and 2 of it's wan's are on the same network as the clients, but different subnet. I know I need to VLAN, but had some issues with VLAN not connecting. On 08/25/2010 05:51 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: What kind of radios? You sure it isn't a problem with the DNS servers? On Aug 25, 2010 7:44 PM, Mark Dueck m...@netking.bz wrote: Hi, I've got some issues on my network with clients complaining they have no internet. When I come around, as soon as I ping gateway and then google dns, the browsing is back up. I showed a client how to do this, and he says whenever his internet goes down, as soon as he pings it's right back up. Anyone have ideas why this could happen? Thanks, Mark WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman
[WISPA] no net but ping works
Hi, I've got some issues on my network with clients complaining they have no internet. When I come around, as soon as I ping gateway and then google dns, the browsing is back up. I showed a client how to do this, and he says whenever his internet goes down, as soon as he pings it's right back up. Anyone have ideas why this could happen? Thanks, Mark WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] no net but ping works
I don't think it's a DNS because most clients that are complaining are from one AP. Today I got one that's from a diff AP that said their net was intermittent. I myself am browsing on the same network and never experience that problem. I have the same settings. Mostly Tranzeo SL2's as clients, with 2 PowerStations as AP's. The rest of the AP's are all Tranzeo. All clients are routed internally, but after the client radio everything is bridged. I rebooted the gateway to clear the arp cache, but clients are still experiencing the same problem. Could it cause a problem with the fact that the gateway is multiwan and 2 of it's wan's are on the same network as the clients, but different subnet. I know I need to VLAN, but had some issues with VLAN not connecting. On 08/25/2010 05:51 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: What kind of radios? You sure it isn't a problem with the DNS servers? On Aug 25, 2010 7:44 PM, "Mark Dueck" m...@netking.bz wrote: Hi, I've got some issues on my network with clients complaining they have no internet. When I come around, as soon as I ping gateway and then google dns, the browsing is back up. I showed a client how to do this, and he says whenever his internet goes down, as soon as he pings it's right back up. Anyone have ideas why this could happen? Thanks, Mark WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Backend systems
I too have been working on putting up a billing system for over a year now. I have a working VM from Freeside, but it really seems like it's not a full install. I can't get anything to really work in it, or maybe it's just that there's no documentation and I don't know how to get it working. From what I've played with it, it does not have half the inventory tracking that I would like, and the whole table structure looks so darn complicated, it would take me a few full days studying all the tables to come up with a python script that would generate my nagios config file for my clients -- which are my full intentions for whichever system I put in unless it has it's own monitoring system. I found this page a few weeks ago: http://www.cio.com.au/article/324595/5_open_source_billing_systems_watch/ I've taken a quick look at each, and so far the CitrusDB seems to be the easiest one to work with and extent to what I would like to have. Unless we can put our heads together and document how to get freeside working because I've heard that you can without much effort extend it to do most anything. Mark On 08/22/2010 04:16 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: I'm looking to have something completely in place by the end of the year. Because of the issues Matt pointed out, I don't want to really add much more until it's automated. Well, after I rebuild a bunch of backhauls and turn a new network into a routed one, the backends are next on my list. There sure isn't much information out there on Azotel. If I didn't get the Solutions4ebiz emails, I'd think it was a secret. I remember deciding against Platypus years ago, but now I don't remember why. Maybe I should revisit. The thing I don't like about WISPMon is that it's outsourced. Well, unless I pay $10k, which would be inappropriate for my size. I don't outsource my email, my DNS, my hosting, my lawn cutting, etc. Everything is in-house . - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 8/22/2010 8:52 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: I've been setting up FreeSide... forever. 1) I'm too poor to hire it out properly. 2) I haven't had the time to dedicate to it to finishing it up. I remember seeing someone on here made a new backend system. I'm thinking it was WISPMon, but I'm not sure if there's another out there that a WISP made. It looks as though WISPMon certain does things that FreeSide doesn't and looks a hell of a lot better. However, does it do everything that FreeSide does? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Changign DHCP timeout XP/WIn7
LOL. if you have a Deliberant radio you might want to look into increasing it to 5 minutes because that's how long they take to boot up. I tried looking into it a while ago, but did not find anything that easily. Had to tell my customers to wait 5 minutes to startup the computer once they booted up the radio. Mark On 08/20/2010 09:42 AM, Justin Wilson wrote: Changign DHCP timeout XP/WIn7 I know a good majority of you deal with the annoyance of waiting on Windows to timeout when there is no DHCP server. Anyone found a fix for this? Registry setting? Very annoying waiting on windows to timeout DHCP when you know it will not get one. Sure a static IP shortens this time, but can be a pain in itself. Looking for a hack to shorten the windows DHCP timeout down to something sane. Ideas? -- Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net http://www.mtin.net/blog xISP News http://www.twitter.com/j2sw Follow me on Twitter Wisp Consulting Tower Climbing Network Support WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Changign DHCP timeout XP/WIn7
Title: Re: [WISPA] Changign DHCP timeout XP/WIn7 I've been running openSuse on my laptop for 2 years now. Very simple NIC config straight from command line. And if you have plugged and unplugged your cable a few times, the Network manager stops trying to get an IP address. All I do is: up arrow; Enter; and my nic is configured with the same IP every time. command: ifconfig eth0 192.168.2.5 netmask 255.255.255.0 You're supposed to be able to do that from windows too, but I never got it working. On 08/20/2010 10:50 AM, Justin Wilson wrote: I just get sick of configuring units, such as mikrotik, and switching devices and then having to wait until DHCP times out. Pretty annoying when you have 50 Mikrotik boards to configure. Takes longer for me to wait on DHCP than to drop the config file on it. -- Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net http://www.mtin.net/blog xISP News http://www.twitter.com/j2sw Follow me on Twitter Wisp Consulting Tower Climbing Network Support From: Mark Dueck m...@netking.bz Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2010 10:39:25 -0600 To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Changign DHCP timeout XP/WIn7 LOL. if you have a Deliberant radio you might want to look into increasing it to 5 minutes because that's how long they take to boot up. I tried looking into it a while ago, but did not find anything that easily. Had to tell my customers to wait 5 minutes to startup the computer once they booted up the radio. Mark On 08/20/2010 09:42 AM, Justin Wilson wrote: Changign DHCP timeout XP/WIn7 I know a good majority of you deal with the annoyance of waiting on Windows to timeout when there is no DHCP server. Anyone found a fix for this? Registry setting? Very annoying waiting on windows to timeout DHCP when you know it will not get one. Sure a static IP shortens this time, but can be a pain in itself. Looking for a hack to shorten the windows DHCP timeout down to something sane. Ideas? -- Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net http://www.mtin.net/blog xISP News http://www.twitter.com/j2sw Follow me on Twitter Wisp Consulting Tower Climbing Network Support WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Powerstation2 with very low throughput
Thank you all for your responses. I change the AP to B mode only, then set the ACK manually and now it's performance is on par with the Tr6600 we had before. I also changed 1 client to another AP. Mark On 08/12/2010 11:56 AM, Mark Dueck wrote: Hi Everyone, I had a bunch of my equipment burnt on a tower. Previously I had all Tranzeo. Now I put up a Powerstation2 for my main AP with a Tranzeo 17 dbi sector. I'm getting a max throughput of around 3 mbits. That's looking at the throughput graphs in the PS2. Once I'm reaching that throughput though, pings to certain clients go way up to over 2 seconds. I do my testing from linux, using ping IP -i .01 -s 1024 or even take the 1024 up to 2048. I can do this to 3 clients at 1024 packet size.. Once I start pushing it to a 4th client, pings get lost and replies come back 2 seconds later. Is this normal?? I'm looking into it because I have clients complaining they loose connection completely sometimes. When I ping to 3 clients, I can hardly ping any other clients. no response. I've pinged the AP during this whole time and it never flaps. Very solid at a few ms. The previous Tranzeo AP had no problems. Clients are mostly Tranzeo SL2s and their distances vary from 1/2 mile to about 3 miles Here's the station list with their signal strength: Station MAC Signal, dBm Noise, dBm Tx Rate Rx Rate Idle (sec) 00:15:6D:1A:0A:05 -54 -96 48M 36M 0 00:60:B3:E9:24:25 -69 -96 24M 18M 0 00:13:4F:10:09:0F -49 -96 48M 36M 0 00:15:6D:1A:0F:D7 -74 -96 11M 18M 0 00:13:4F:00:C5:DB -78 -96 18M 5M 15 00:1C:F0:EA:57:06 -75 -96 11M 11M 0 00:13:4F:00:C5:C2 -72 -96 36M 18M 15 00:60:B3:45:37:60 -75 -96 11M 12M 0 00:13:4F:00:97:96 -52 -96 54M 36M 0 00:13:4F:00:8E:E5 -64 -96 48M 11M 0 00:13:4F:00:A6:E6 -65 -96 36M 24M 0 00:13:4F:00:C3:91 -77 -96 5M 12M 15 00:13:4F:00:B7:FA -82 -96 36M 1M 15 00:60:B3:59:89:54 -72 -96 36M 18M 0 00:13:4F:00:C5:C4 -77 -96 18M 12M 0 00:13:4F:00:A7:00 -76 -96 11M 12M 15 00:0B:6B:37:E5:2B -67 -96 24M 36M 15 00:13:4F:10:01:D5 -54 -96 11M 36M 0 00:13:4F:00:8B:83 -68 -96 36M 18M 0 00:13:4F:00:D8:08 -81 -96 12M 1M 0 00:13:4F:10:02:3E -73 -96 48M 12M 30 00:60:B3:E9:22:A0 -84 -96 1M 12M 0 Anyone have any idea what it could be? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Powerstation2 with very low throughput
It's a brand new PS purchased about 2 months ago. I'll have to try B only then to see if that will have better performance. I've been checking all the clients, and I see some of them with very high retries. They are pushing through trees. Could be a likely cause right? On 08/12/2010 11:36 PM, RickG wrote: I'm assuming you have, but I've never had much luck with "G mode". With that said, I just fixed asimilarissue by using a a Bullet2HP (non "M"). -RickG On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 1:56 PM, Mark Dueck m...@netking.bz wrote: Hi Everyone, I had a bunch of my equipment burnt on a tower. Previously I had all Tranzeo. Now I put up a Powerstation2 for my main AP with a Tranzeo 17 dbi sector. I'm getting a max throughput of around 3 mbits. That's looking at the throughput graphs in the PS2. Once I'm reaching that throughput though, pings to certain clients go way up to over 2 seconds. I do my testing from linux, using ping IP -i .01 -s 1024 or even take the 1024 up to 2048. I can do this to 3 clients at 1024 packet size.. Once I start pushing it to a 4th client, pings get lost and replies come back 2 seconds later. Is this normal?? I'm looking into it because I have clients complaining they loose connection completely sometimes. When I ping to 3 clients, I can hardly ping any other clients. no response. I've pinged the AP during this whole time and it never flaps. Very solid at a few ms. The previous Tranzeo AP had no problems. Clients are mostly Tranzeo SL2s and their distances vary from 1/2 mile to about 3 miles Here's the station list with their signal strength: Station MAC Signal, dBm Noise, dBm Tx Rate Rx Rate Idle (sec) 00:15:6D:1A:0A:05 -54 -96 48M 36M 0 00:60:B3:E9:24:25 -69 -96 24M 18M 0 00:13:4F:10:09:0F -49 -96 48M 36M 0 00:15:6D:1A:0F:D7 -74 -96 11M 18M 0 00:13:4F:00:C5:DB -78 -96 18M 5M 15 00:1C:F0:EA:57:06 -75 -96 11M 11M 0 00:13:4F:00:C5:C2 -72 -96 36M 18M 15 00:60:B3:45:37:60 -75 -96 11M 12M 0 00:13:4F:00:97:96 -52 -96 54M 36M 0 00:13:4F:00:8E:E5 -64 -96 48M 11M 0 00:13:4F:00:A6:E6 -65 -96 36M 24M 0 00:13:4F:00:C3:91 -77 -96 5M 12M 15 00:13:4F:00:B7:FA -82 -96 36M 1M 15 00:60:B3:59:89:54 -72 -96 36M 18M 0 00:13:4F:00:C5:C4 -77 -96 18M 12M 0 00:13:4F:00:A7:00 -76 -96 11M 12M 15 00:0B:6B:37:E5:2B -67 -96 24M 36M 15 00:13:4F:10:01:D5 -54 -96 11M 36M 0 00:13:4F:00:8B:83 -68 -96 36M 18M 0 00:13:4F:00:D8:08 -81 -96 12M 1M 0 00:13:4F:10:02:3E -73 -96 48M 12M 30 00:60:B3:E9:22:A0 -84 -96 1M 12M 0 Anyone have any idea what it could be? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! htt
Re: [WISPA] Recommend a Product?
Tranzeo has FDD radios that allow 20, 10 and 5 Mhz channel widths. They come with a built in 24dbi antenna. You have to buy the channel shields though. On 08/12/2010 07:43 AM, Steven McGehee wrote: I have an unusual (for us, anyway) need for a point-to-point wireless product that is only needing to cover about 50 yards. This is a building to building setup, with one side (the masters side) needing to shoot through the exterior brick wall of one building (it will be mounted in the ceiling space) and then through a clear window on the other building. We currently serve this need with an old Tsunami 5.8Ghz, 8Mbps bridge, but it's old, and we want to go ahead and replace it. I only need something like 10-20Mbps full duplex, and I'd prefer it to have a small-ish beamwidth and use low power. I'm leaning on using a Trango Atlas or T-Link, but something less capable and with a smaller channel size (those use 20Mhz) would be great. Unfortunately just doing ethernet in this scenario is not possible. If you guys have any recommendations, please contact me offlist -- thanks! WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Recommend a Product?
Are the Nanostation or Loco M full duplex? On 08/12/2010 09:37 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: Nanostation or loco M would be my choice too. The antennas are 90* though. On Aug 12, 2010 10:36 AM, "Mark Dueck" m...@netking.bz wrote: Tranzeo has FDD radios that allow 20, 10 and 5 Mhz channel widths. They come with a built in 24dbi antenna. You have to buy the channel shields though. On 08/12/2010 07:43 AM, Steven McGehee wrote: I have an unusual (for us, anyway) need for a point... WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Powerstation2 with very low throughput
Hi Everyone, I had a bunch of my equipment burnt on a tower. Previously I had all Tranzeo. Now I put up a Powerstation2 for my main AP with a Tranzeo 17 dbi sector. I'm getting a max throughput of around 3 mbits. That's looking at the throughput graphs in the PS2. Once I'm reaching that throughput though, pings to certain clients go way up to over 2 seconds. I do my testing from linux, using ping IP -i .01 -s 1024 or even take the 1024 up to 2048. I can do this to 3 clients at 1024 packet size.. Once I start pushing it to a 4th client, pings get lost and replies come back 2 seconds later. Is this normal?? I'm looking into it because I have clients complaining they loose connection completely sometimes. When I ping to 3 clients, I can hardly ping any other clients. no response. I've pinged the AP during this whole time and it never flaps. Very solid at a few ms. The previous Tranzeo AP had no problems. Clients are mostly Tranzeo SL2s and their distances vary from 1/2 mile to about 3 miles Here's the station list with their signal strength: Station MAC Signal, dBm Noise, dBm Tx Rate Rx Rate Idle (sec) 00:15:6D:1A:0A:05 -54 -96 48M 36M 0 00:60:B3:E9:24:25 -69 -96 24M 18M 0 00:13:4F:10:09:0F -49 -96 48M 36M 0 00:15:6D:1A:0F:D7 -74 -96 11M 18M 0 00:13:4F:00:C5:DB -78 -96 18M 5M 15 00:1C:F0:EA:57:06 -75 -96 11M 11M 0 00:13:4F:00:C5:C2 -72 -96 36M 18M 15 00:60:B3:45:37:60 -75 -96 11M 12M 0 00:13:4F:00:97:96 -52 -96 54M 36M 0 00:13:4F:00:8E:E5 -64 -96 48M 11M 0 00:13:4F:00:A6:E6 -65 -96 36M 24M 0 00:13:4F:00:C3:91 -77 -96 5M 12M 15 00:13:4F:00:B7:FA -82 -96 36M 1M 15 00:60:B3:59:89:54 -72 -96 36M 18M 0 00:13:4F:00:C5:C4 -77 -96 18M 12M 0 00:13:4F:00:A7:00 -76 -96 11M 12M 15 00:0B:6B:37:E5:2B -67 -96 24M 36M 15 00:13:4F:10:01:D5 -54 -96 11M 36M 0 00:13:4F:00:8B:83 -68 -96 36M 18M 0 00:13:4F:00:D8:08 -81 -96 12M 1M 0 00:13:4F:10:02:3E -73 -96 48M 12M 30 00:60:B3:E9:22:A0 -84 -96 1M 12M 0 Anyone have any idea what it could be? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] URGENT recover deleted folders
Here's a list of programs you can try. http://lifehacker.com/393084/how-to-recover-deleted-files-with-free-software I have to second what Josh said. Don't write to that drive at all. If that drive is drive c on windows, don't use that computer at all. Put that drive into another computer to recover the files. Good Luck. On 08/03/2010 07:51 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: http://iam8up.com/iam8up/Restoration.exe Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 9:50 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Stop using that PC, do as little read/write as possible. I'll look for the the utility I used way back when. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 9:42 PM, Kurt Fankhauser k...@wavelinc.com wrote: I am in the most need right now, I have a separate partition that is dedicated solely to backup purposes. I had about 20GB of folders and files and I accidentally sent them to the Recycle Bin, but apparently the recycle bin can’t handle that many so it just deleted them all. What file recovery program works best to restore folders with the files to the way it was before this happened? Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Lightening protection
I've been wanting to ask this question for a few days. We got hit on one of our NOCs with about 6 radios on the tower. Every single radio was fried. Our problem I think is that it's a limestone (caliche or white marl) hill. How well can you ground in a situation like that? Or does it not matter? We had all our POE's properly grounded, but did not run separate ground from the radios as they were all Tranzeo with metal back plate, metal mount, mounted directly on the legs of the tower. The tower has a grounding rod at the bottom, but it goes directly into the limestone. Any suggestions? On 07/27/2010 08:29 AM, Kurt Fankhauser wrote: I had a problem customer than was always getting CPE Ethernet knocked out. Switched to shielded CAT5 with a pac wireless POE adapter that grounds the jacket through the 3rd prong ground of the house plug and problem went away. Also it helps if the pole the the CPE is mounted to is grounded as well. If its on a roof you may have to run a ground wire to the pole to dissipate static. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jeremie Chism Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 9:54 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Lightening protection I had two cpe's get struck by lightening yesterday that took out the cpe, the router behind it and the voip adapter behind that. Along with a few Ethernet cards also. What are you using on the customers end to try to stop this. The cpe is powered by poe. Sent from my iPhone WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] DD-WRT
I was in High School in 95 here in Belize, and back then we were paying $2.00/ hour for internet access. Usernames and passwords were passed around continuously. I heard of some businesses getting bills at $7,000 for the month, and a Government office getting a bill for over $10,000. Good old days. The whole country was learning so much back then via 'free' access. On 07/13/2010 11:37 AM, RickG wrote: LOL! I could have said Zoom Modem!!! On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 1:03 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: Honestly, did you HAVE to inject UMAX into my day? HA! Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 11:44 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] DD-WRT We have come a long way though. Remember these? http://www.cablemodeminfo.com/umaxreview.html-ssi On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 4:01 AM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: Yeah, but once the price of the good stuff came down it doesn't make any sense to invest much time into tricking out that junk. I can put less than a hundred bucks into a Routerboard or a Ubiquiti radio that will do 10x what the hacked retail router can do. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Glenn Kelley Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 2:30 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] DD-WRT Bob - have you ever tried the solder trick on the old linkys - amazing how much more ram you can get on those suckers On Jul 12, 2010, at 11:50 PM, Robert West wrote: Just the stripped down v24 that's been out forever. All of the Broadcom based WRT54G versions are stable as can be, as far I've seen, but the newer versions, (like the past 5 years!!!) suck. DD-WRT is cool on Broadcom but all the Atheros chips seem to throw it into crazy land. Love those older WRT54G routers with the big as hell flash. Still going strong. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Greg Ihnen Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 11:15 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] DD-WRT Which package were you running? There's a number of different variations which have more or less features. If one doesn't need the full blown packages it's better to run a minimalist version, and turn off what ever services you don't need. It's a lot of setup. If you need the just basic functionality try the Tomato firmware. It's basic and solid. The QOS is decent (works better for me than the dd-wrt). The versions that have everything including the kitchen sink scare me (the chances of problems and errors rise exponentially as the code bloats). Greg On Jul 12, 2010, at 9:47 PM, Robert West wrote: My problem with the latest DD-WRT is that the firmware seems to overheat or lockup. At least on the Linksys hardware. Not as good anymore. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Dennis Burgess Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 12:14 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] DD-WRT got me. We simply use MT. Guess sometimes its cheaper to use a consumer grade hardware and put some other software on them, but sounds like more work than it needs to be. --- Dennis Burgess, Mikrotik Certified Trainer Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik WISP Support Services Office: 314-735-0270 Website: http://www.linktechs.net LIVE On-Line Mikrotik Training - Author of Learn RouterOS -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Steve Barnes Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 11:16 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] DD-WRT Ok I have heard from lots of threads on this list that DD-WRT is the only way to go on a SOHO routers. Why? What's the benefits? What's the down falls? Steve Barnes RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service - - -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ - - -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ - - -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ - - -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Repeater
I think something like this would help: http://www.csgnetwork.com/freqwavelengthcalc.html On 06/08/2010 06:32 AM, Steve Barnes wrote: So with two 2.4 24 dbi Grid with 30 pig tail, what distance of cable would you need in between them for the best match? Same with 5.8. Reason I ask is I have 2 locations that have no chance of electrical power but need to get around a woods to. Both are very short distances to tower but heavy woods for straight line of site. I actually have some Grids lying around not being used that I could play with. Secondly I am a computer and network expert and I know what a wave is and can measure one on an oscilloscope but have no idea how to convert that to meter/feet/inch. Steve Barnes RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2010 12:03 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Repeater You are absolutely right. A quarter wave feed line is an impedance inverter. If my 1/4 wave multiples were even numbered the same effect would be found. (2 x 1/4 wave = half wave) A half wave feed is an impedance repeater. I DO find the idea intriguing, but not so that I will be the one to acid test it. :-) Friendly Regards, Mike -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Greg Ihnen Sent: Monday, June 07, 2010 10:17 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Repeater My understanding is that a half wavelength long feed line presents zero impedance transformation. See the Smith chart - http://www.scott-inc.com/img/smith.gif The idea being that if you have an impedance of anything other than feed line's impedance (a perfect match represented by the point marked 1.0 in the center of the chart) and you plot that impedance it will be a certain distance and direction from 1.0. Then using a compass you measure from 1.0 on the chart out to the plotted input impedance point and swing an arc and draw a circle centered on 1.0 that intersects the plotted input impedance. To calculate the impedance seen at any point along the feed line as you move down the feed line's electrical length (fraction of a wavelength) you move around the Smith chart (actually around the circle you drew) and that will be the impedance seen at that point on the feed line. The scale around the outer diameter of the Smith chart reads in decimal fractions of a wavelength. If you go 1/4 wave down the feed line that represents going .25 wavelength around the Smith chart's outer scale which corresponds to going 180 degrees around the chart (the point opposite of the input impedance on the circle you drew). If you go a half wave down the feed line then you go 360 degrees around the circle that intersects the feed point impedance, in other words you return to where you started. Greg On Jun 7, 2010, at 9:59 PM, Mike wrote: The whole idea of a passive repeater intrigues me. Two times in many years I have done just that with limited success. The first was a metal building I built for Daystar Communications in SW Florida. It was our NOC and housed our customer support team as well as the techs. Cell phone coverage was the pits. What I did was point a Yagi at a known cell tower a few miles away. The feed line penetrated the building and fed a half wave dipole. One of the benefits of that particular time in my life is I had access to a very nice network analyzer. The dipole was cut very precisely, and the feedline, LMR 600 if I remember correctly, was cut to a multiple of ¼ wave and acted as an impedance repeater. In that way any matching errors to the feedline were negated. It gave cell phones in the building a couple bars and made usage possible. The second one was for a customer here in Iowa. They live down in a bowl and couldn't see my tower 2 miles away. They have a campground. Cell phones don't work well at all in the bowl. There is a pasture which has a hill that rises up from the bowl. From that hill you can see my tower. They planted a telephone pole and ran electricity to it. We put a panel pointed at my tower and a second one lower as a repeater which termed the entire property into a hot spot. It works well. We took 2 long commercial 800 MHz Yagis and connected them together with a short feedline measured, with the velocity factor to be a multiple of ¼ wave again. One Yagi points at a cell tower, the other points at the campground. It gives cell phones a couple bars where they didn't work most of the time before. If you used a couple high gain, efficient dishes and separated them with minimum feedline or hardline, it should work in a similar way. I would be
Re: [WISPA] Netequilizer
If you want almost the same features for free, you can still install the Bandwidth Arbitrator from where NetEQ comes from. www.bandwidtharbitrator.com I've tried it once, but never got it fully working. On 05/06/2010 08:09 PM, tim wolfe wrote: I've had a NetEq box running for over 3 years. It is a plug and play setup and does a great job if you like the hands off sorta thing. The bad side is the licensing and the upgrading policy. IT STINKS!. If you buy a unit that is only 3 months old off of Ebay, you can forget support. There was a thread awhile back on the DSL Reports wireless forum. I remember reading it and not liking the policies. You also have to purchase upgrades and some other little quirks that just didn't make me smile. - Original Message - From: Jeremie Chism jchi...@gmail.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 9:31 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Netequilizer And I'm sure it can probably prioritize voip traffic. Sent from my iPhone On May 6, 2010, at 7:58 PM, Mike m...@aweiowa.com wrote: For some networks, NetEq is a good solution. I've had one on my network for a few years. It was before Butch came up with his solution. It was a real lifesaver for us; it kept any users from monopolizing the pipe at the peril of others. One major caveat, unless they've changed it, it only plays traffic cop for one subnet. It will look for long duration, multiple thread, connections and put 50 ms delays in the packets if the network gets busy and leave headroom for the bursty users. Another good thing it can do is limit the number of concurrent connections any one IP can have open. This effectively throttles torrents in an agnostic way. Friendly Regards, Mike -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jeremie Chism Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 7:47 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Netequilizer Cisco router handles all of my routing so I was looking for something to go between. Sent from my iPhone On May 6, 2010, at 7:18 PM, Jerry Richardson jrichard...@aircloud.com wrote: Pretty expensive version of Linux iptables. MT is a pretty solid low cost solution with lotsa support. A Pentium 4 with 2GB RAM will handle a butt load of traffic. Jerry -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jeremie Chism Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 4:51 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Netequilizer Anybody using this product? We have a pretty good set of qos in our wimax platform but was considering a netequilizer to help with a few HD video streamers we have. Sent from my iPhone --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- --- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today!
Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo - Again.....
Which CPE do you have? the SL2? You need to be on firmware 5.0.4. If you are not, you will get this same issue, at least if your hardware revision is v2. In v3 they upgraded the memory on the units. The memory is too low and cannot accommodate the routing table - or something like that. On 05/03/2010 03:14 PM, Kosinet Wireless wrote: Well, kinda' It's ME - UBNT 5.8 Bridge - Switch - Tranzeo AP -Tranzeo CPE Client @ POP connected to switch with Router Works perfectly - Clent @ Tranzeo CPE with Router has problems. -Gary- - Original Message - From: Ryan Spott rsp...@cspott.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 5:09 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo - Again. This smells of a layer 2.5 issue. Let me guess, the path looks like this: You - AP - CPE acting like uplink - AP - client. yeah.. Very well explained here: http://support.tranzeo.com/knowledgebase/users/kb.php?id=10038category_id=0sid2= I am looking through the 802.11-2007 spec from IEEE as this is a WLAN issue, not a Tranzeo Issue. (my wife calls it the G**-D*-ryan-these-customers-are-calling-because-you-used-the-poor-mans-repeater-again-go-put-a-freakin'-router-out-there-quit-being-so-cheap!) ryan On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 1:49 PM, Kosinet Wireless wirel...@kosinet.comwrote: Hey all, I've got what appears to me to be a dumb question, but I'm all out of good answers right now. We've got mostly all Alvarion stuff on our WISP Network - All bridged, including the backhauls. The entire network is addressed @ 10.0.100.x for management / monitoring purposes, and has been running fine. (Our Public IP address space is 98.100.x.x) We recently added a Tranzeo AP, and (1) client at a new POP - Addressed them into our 10.0.100.x Network and set the client up. Signal is great, but we've had nothing but problems at this location. It will run for a short while, then drop off, then come back, etc. (And on, and on..) While testing we discovered we can ping the 10.0.100.x address, and / or stay logged onto the radio consistently, but the Router on the Public IP drops off. We've swapped Radios / Routers / Switches / Etc. - The only constant is the Tranzeo link. (The Client at the POP that we're broadcasting from work flawlessly - It's a Ubiquity Bridge Link.) There's the scenario, here's the question. Is there a problem with me addressing the Tranzeo Radios in the 10.0.100.x? Arp Table problems? -Gary- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo - Again.....
Ah, I see you have a separate router - you're not routing at the CPE.. then this is not your problem. On 05/03/2010 03:38 PM, Mark Dueck wrote: Which CPE do you have? the SL2? You need to be on firmware 5.0.4. If you are not, you will get this same issue, at least if your hardware revision is v2. In v3 they upgraded the memory on the units. The memory is too low and cannot accommodate the routing table - or something like that. On 05/03/2010 03:14 PM, Kosinet Wireless wrote: Well, kinda' It's ME - UBNT 5.8 Bridge - Switch - Tranzeo AP -Tranzeo CPE Client @ POP connected to switch with Router Works perfectly - Clent @ Tranzeo CPE with Router has problems. -Gary- - Original Message - From: Ryan Spott rsp...@cspott.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 5:09 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo - Again. This smells of a layer 2.5 issue. Let me guess, the path looks like this: You - AP - CPE acting like uplink - AP - client. yeah.. Very well explained here: http://support.tranzeo.com/knowledgebase/users/kb.php?id=10038category_id=0sid2= I am looking through the 802.11-2007 spec from IEEE as this is a WLAN issue, not a Tranzeo Issue. (my wife calls it the G**-D*-ryan-these-customers-are-calling-because-you-used-the-poor-mans-repeater-again-go-put-a-freakin'-router-out-there-quit-being-so-cheap!) ryan On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 1:49 PM, Kosinet Wireless wirel...@kosinet.comwrote: Hey all, I've got what appears to me to be a dumb question, but I'm all out of good answers right now. We've got mostly all Alvarion stuff on our WISP Network - All bridged, including the backhauls. The entire network is addressed @ 10.0.100.x for management / monitoring purposes, and has been running fine. (Our Public IP address space is 98.100.x.x) We recently added a Tranzeo AP, and (1) client at a new POP - Addressed them into our 10.0.100.x Network and set the client up. Signal is great, but we've had nothing but problems at this location. It will run for a short while, then drop off, then come back, etc. (And on, and on..) While testing we discovered we can ping the 10.0.100.x address, and / or stay logged onto the radio consistently, but the Router on the Public IP drops off. We've swapped Radios / Routers / Switches / Etc. - The only constant is the Tranzeo link. (The Client at the POP that we're broadcasting from work flawlessly - It's a Ubiquity Bridge Link.) There's the scenario, here's the question. Is there a problem with me addressing the Tranzeo Radios in the 10.0.100.x? Arp Table problems? -Gary- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Overage thresholds and penalties
How is your experience with Powercode? I once considered putting in Powercode, but it looked to be a little used product, so decided against it. On 04/30/2010 10:24 AM, Mark Nash - Lists wrote: We use Powercode to shape bandwidth and to track bandwidth usage, and when the customer goes over the limit, they are throttled down very hard, like 64k. Powercode has a Customer Portal feature that lets them login and check their usage any time they want. Also, they can set up daily emails from their Portal so that they can get an email each day about their monthly usage. We have about 20 customers that do this. Took us a while to get the Powercode system to work, and it's still not 100%, but I would say that putting in these usage thresholds and tracking has helped us identify who our heavy users are and to deal with them appropriately. Doing this has generated about $500/mo in additional revenue as customers move up to higher speed packages with higher monthly limits. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] QOS tc filter examples
I started my linux experience with Mastershaper - www.mastershaper.org If you can play with a system, set an IP address, have it generate all the rules for you, you'd be able to generate all other rules per IP off of that. The project looked to be dead for a while, but it's getting a little life again. I'd trust the .44 release more than the .6. hope that helps. Mark On 04/28/2010 03:27 PM, Jason Wallace wrote: Rick, I had considered that. Then I read Butch's blog about when he developed it, and there were a few things that I think would prevent it from working correctly in my network: 1. His script seems to be tailored for RouterOS; he mentions that the script uses the PCQ qdisc (which is RouterOS only) and my router is linux based. 2. It sounds like it was built to control the flows in a macroscopic network-wide way, I will need the filters to be applied to every IP individually. I could start with his script, but I'd have to do a lot of rewriting, I think. The router I have is just loafing and I really don't want another box to do this if I don't have to. Jason RickG wrote: Contact Butch Evans, pay small amount for his script, problem solved! -RickG On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 1:28 PM, Jason Wallace supp...@azii.net wrote: I am finding that I need to improve the QOS of my network (I picked up a few customers with lots of teens, etc). Right now I use tc rules to limit everyone to the contracted speeds, but would like to use tc filter rules to give KNOWN GOOD traffic a good priority and UNKNOWN traffic a lesser priority. This will probably be done for each individual ip address (this is how it's set up right now). Does anyone know where I can find some examples of tc filters that will "catch" good traffic like html, dns, interactive, VOIP, maybe video/flash/streaming? Also, can anyone direct me to a info on using tc/iptables to limit the number of connections per ip address? Jason WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] what to use with Mikrotik as AP
On 04/19/2010 01:41 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: On the subject of strictly MT backhauls what kind of throughput are you looking for? My throughput requirements are minimal at this point. I'm in Belize, and clients here generally get 128 to 512kbps connections. If I get a 36Mbit backhaul link, I'm good for a while. I always use this enclosure http://quicklinkwireless.com/Itemdesc.asp?ic=DCE-H-LG-2eq=Tp= For a backhaul with 1 card a 411ah is fine. 433ah for two cards. Ubnt for xr2/xr5 cards. So you'd rather go with ubnt cards than Mikrotik? I've used Arc antenna/enclosure for 5ghz small backhauls and they work as expected. I've used Pac dishes for extra punch. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 2:35 PM, Dennis Burgess dmburg...@linktechs.netwrote: your MT vendor or hardware vendor can help you with this. --- Dennis Burgess, CCNA, Mikrotik Certified Trainer, MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE, MTCTCE, MTCUME Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik WISP Support Services Office: 314-735-0270 Website: http://www.linktechs.net LIVE On-Line Mikrotik Training - Author of Learn RouterOS -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mark Dueck Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 1:20 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] what to use with Mikrotik as AP Hi, I'm running a small WISP and I've been using only Tranzeo till now. I would like to start using something that support MIMO. What should I consider? Been reading a lot on this list about UBNT and Mikrotik. What boards do you use if you go with Mikrotik? Will I get any benefit if I put some MIMO clients, but still mostly use Tranzeo clients? Also for Mikrotik backhauls, can someone give details of the boards, cards and enclosures you use for them? many thanks, Mark WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] what to use with Mikrotik as AP
That brings me to another question. So far I've just been putting manaul IP, no DHCP. I've been looking at putting up a radius server, but don't quite see how I can setup the clients. How is this done? the Tranzeo clients have no radius client configuration. Or is there not a need to configure each client? What's better, or is there a difference between radius or radius with PPPoE? -- I think I read that it's possible to setup the latter. Tranzeo supports PPPoE on the clients. On 04/19/2010 02:50 PM, Forbes Mercy wrote: I have lots of MT AP's, in fact most of them are, I do use a couple of UBNT AP (and I'm talking about 2.4, almost all of my 5GHZ AP's are UBNT). The thing I hate is the ACL list which I can't put in the customer name and IP so I can easily diagnosis it. I guess it's forcing me to put up a radius server and control them all from the billing system. Lots of work but we need easy access to see who's causing what in the towers, MT provides for that Ubiquiti doesn't. On 4/19/2010 1:28 PM, Jayson Baker wrote: If you have to use MT as the AP, yes go with the UBNT cards. MT cards are ok for CPE stuff. Certainly not tower stuff. But I was moreso saying don't use MT as the AP. Use the UBNT Rockets or Nano's as APs. On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 2:04 PM, Mark Dueckm...@netking.bz wrote: On 04/19/2010 01:41 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: On the subject of strictly MT backhauls what kind of throughput are you looking for? My throughput requirements are minimal at this point. I'm in Belize, and clients here generally get 128 to 512kbps connections. If I get a 36Mbit backhaul link, I'm good for a while. I always use this enclosure http://quicklinkwireless.com/Itemdesc.asp?ic=DCE-H-LG-2eq=Tp= For a backhaul with 1 card a 411ah is fine. 433ah for two cards. Ubnt for xr2/xr5 cards. So you'd rather go with ubnt cards than Mikrotik? I've used Arc antenna/enclosure for 5ghz small backhauls and they work as expected. I've used Pac dishes for extra punch. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 2:35 PM, Dennis Burgessdmburg...@linktechs.net wrote: your MT vendor or hardware vendor can help you with this. --- Dennis Burgess, CCNA, Mikrotik Certified Trainer, MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE, MTCTCE, MTCUME Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik WISP Support Services Office: 314-735-0270 Website: http://www.linktechs.net LIVE On-Line Mikrotik Training - Author of Learn RouterOS -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mark Dueck Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 1:20 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] what to use with Mikrotik as AP Hi, I'm running a small WISP and I've been using only Tranzeo till now. I would like to start using something that support MIMO. What should I consider? Been reading a lot on this list about UBNT and Mikrotik. What boards do you use if you go with Mikrotik? Will I get any benefit if I put some MIMO clients, but still mostly use Tranzeo clients? Also for Mikrotik backhauls, can someone give details of the boards, cards and enclosures you use for them? many thanks, Mark WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless
Re: [WISPA] what to use with Mikrotik as AP
So are you saying that if I do PPPoE, and have routing at the CPE device, I don't really need to do routing between towers? Is there any point in having IP ranges per location if using PPPoE, or is it not even possible then? On 04/19/2010 04:29 PM, Chuck Hogg wrote: In hindsight, I think we would have tried to do PPPoE on our network instead of routing. The primary reason is Management and Billing, and then we'd also not have to setup special firewall rules on our routed clients for their public ip address. Then for our in-town hotspots our customers could also login there and use the internet at full speed, instead of the limited speed we have for the public. Regards, Chuck Hogg Shelby Broadband 502-722-9292 ch...@shelbybb.com http://www.shelbybb.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Stuart Pierce Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 7:23 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] what to use with Mikrotik as AP If you are going to use a Tik box as the AP or the backend, set up a hotspot service. -- Original Message -- From: Mark Dueck m...@netking.bz Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2010 15:27:15 -0600 That brings me to another question. So far I've just been putting manaul IP, no DHCP. I've been looking at putting up a radius server, but don't quite see how I can setup the clients. How is this done? the Tranzeo clients have no radius client configuration. Or is there not a need to configure each client? What's better, or is there a difference between radius or radius with PPPoE? -- I think I read that it's possible to setup the latter. Tranzeo supports PPPoE on the clients. On 04/19/2010 02:50 PM, Forbes Mercy wrote: I have lots of MT AP's, in fact most of them are, I do use a couple of UBNT AP (and I'm talking about 2.4, almost all of my 5GHZ AP's are UBNT). The thing I hate is the ACL list which I can't put in the customer name and IP so I can easily diagnosis it. I guess it's forcing me to put up a radius server and control them all from the billing system. Lots of work but we need easy access to see who's causing what in the towers, MT provides for that Ubiquiti doesn't. On 4/19/2010 1:28 PM, Jayson Baker wrote: If you have to use MT as the AP, yes go with the UBNT cards. MT cards are ok for CPE stuff. Certainly not tower stuff. But I was moreso saying don't use MT as the AP. Use the UBNT Rockets or Nano's as APs. On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 2:04 PM, Mark Dueckm...@netking.bz wrote: On 04/19/2010 01:41 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: On the subject of strictly MT backhauls what kind of throughput are you looking for? My throughput requirements are minimal at this point. I'm in Belize, and clients here generally get 128 to 512kbps connections. If I get a 36Mbit backhaul link, I'm good for a while. I always use this enclosure http://quicklinkwireless.com/Itemdesc.asp?ic=DCE-H-LG-2eq=Tp= For a backhaul with 1 card a 411ah is fine. 433ah for two cards. Ubnt for xr2/xr5 cards. So you'd rather go with ubnt cards than Mikrotik? I've used Arc antenna/enclosure for 5ghz small backhauls and they work as expected. I've used Pac dishes for extra punch. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts. --- Winston Churchill On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 2:35 PM, Dennis Burgessdmburg...@linktechs.net wrote: your MT vendor or hardware vendor can help you with this. --- Dennis Burgess, CCNA, Mikrotik Certified Trainer, MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE, MTCTCE, MTCUME Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik WISP Support Services Office: 314-735-0270 Website: http://www.linktechs.net LIVE On-Line Mikrotik Training - Author of Learn RouterOS -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mark Dueck Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 1:20 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] what to use with Mikrotik as AP Hi, I'm running a small WISP and I've been using only Tranzeo till now. I would like to start using something that support MIMO. What should I consider? Been reading a lot on this list about UBNT and Mikrotik. What boards do you use if you go with Mikrotik? Will I get any benefit if I put some MIMO clients, but still mostly use Tranzeo clients? Also for Mikrotik
Re: [WISPA] Imagestream (was Vyatta?)
On 04/16/2010 10:00 AM, Scott Vander Dussen wrote: Gotta disagree Brad- show me the price point differences between any Cisco and IS that are comporable - don't forget TCO for OS upgrades etc. Are you suggesting Cisco provides a cheaper HW upgrade solution? This is like pulling your car into the oil change station, handing the guy 5 qt of your own oil that you purchased for a few bucks cheaper and a new air filter.. Doesn't work that way- everyone needs a You need an OIL filter with the oil, not an air filter -- just had too. business model that's profitable. Thanks, ‘S --- Sent mobile (and probably one handed while driving!) On Apr 16, 2010, at 8:50 AM, Brad Belton b...@belwave.com wrote: I may be wrong on this, but I doubt Cisco will void your warranty if you buy an expansion card (exact same as you could buy from Cisco directly) and install it in your Cisco router. I'm not suggesting Imagestream should be onboard with a user installing something other than what Imagestream sells directly, but if the card the end user installs is exactly the samewhat's the problem? Imagestream doesn't keep record of how a product was configured before it was sold? So, if there is an expansion card added Imagestream can simply say you need to remove that card before we can help you...not just flat out void the warranty on the entire product. Anyway...just an opinion. Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jeff Broadwick Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 8:23 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Imagestream (was Vyatta?) How so Brad? We sell a complete, warranted, supported product. If you want to buy the pieces/parts and build your own, that's great (and I believe that you do). How can we warrant a product when we did not put sell all the gear that went in to it? If there is a product defect, how are we supposed to know if it is our gear or 3rd party gear that caused it? Believe me, there are enough variables in the process already. ImageStream provides a year warranty and a year of support (including 24/7 emergency support) with all of our routers above the little Envoy. We offer free lifetime software upgrades. We give a 31 Day Performance Guarantee with all of our routers. Is it too much to ask that all gear in the box come from us during that period? It's not like we charge Cisco prices for RAM, NICs, power supplies, etc. Regards, Jeff Jeff Broadwick ImageStream 800-813-5123 x106 (US/Can) +1 574-935-8484 x106 (Int'l) -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Brad Belton Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 8:23 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Imagestream (was Vyatta?) Void the Imagestream warranty for putting the exact same card Imagestream installs is pretty chickenshit IMO. Sorry, you caught me at a bad time this morning... Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jeff Broadwick Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 7:01 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Imagestream (was Vyatta?) Hi All, I do not recommend this if your router is still under warranty/ support. Adding 3rd party hardware to the box will void whatever is left. Regards, Jeff Jeff Broadwick ImageStream 800-813-5123 x106 (US/Can) +1 574-935-8484 x106 (Int'l) -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2010 11:24 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Imagestream (was Vyatta?) You just saved many people hundreds or thousands :) On 4/15/10, Travis Johnson t...@ida.net wrote: Yup... that's the one. Travis Josh Luthman wrote: Maybe this one? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833106036 Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts. --- Winston Churchill On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 11:02 PM, Tom Sharples tsharp...@qorvus.com wrote: Thanks guys! - Original Message - From: Travis Johnson To: Tom Sharples ; WISPA General List Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2010 7:57 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Imagestream (was Vyatta?) We installed several Intel Gigabit cards in our old Imagestream and they worked great. They were the $40 Intel desktop cards. Travis Microserv Tom Sharples wrote: Just received the imagestream gateway router (vintage 2006 or so) , unfortunately it's equipped with 4-port T1/E1 cards, not ethernet cards (sigh). Does anyone know if these will work with standard (e.g. 3com, intel, whatever) 10/100 ethernet adaptors, or do we
Re: [WISPA] When to route?
Question: If you have all client computers behind a router, then you are mostly protected from broadcasting and the need for routing is not that high, right? I have a small network and I'm starting to do some routing between longer backhaul links, and between cities. So far, I don't know if I've seen a difference yet. On 04/13/2010 10:08 PM, Marlon K. Schafer wrote: We're up to about 400 subs on one half of the network. We're about to start routing. We'll know in a few months if it helps or not. marlon - Original Message - From: Greg Ihnen os10ru...@gmail.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2010 9:02 AM Subject: [WISPA] When to route? OK, I know: friends don't let friends bridge networks. But at what if the networks are small? The reason I ask is I'm wondering if I'd have anything to gain by setting up static routing (now that the new UBNT beta added this to the gui). What I have is a satellite internet modem going to an MT box. The MT box is wired to an 802.11g AP/wired switch (which has wireless clients). Also wired to that switch are two backhauls with clients at the far ends. One backhaul is a pair of PS2's (the one closest to the switch is WDS Station and the far end is WDS AP with clients). The other backhaul is a pair of NS5M's running Airmax (obviously no clients) and wired to the far NS5M is a Bullet 2M running as 802.11b/g/n AP with clients. All the hardware is in the 192.168.7.x/24 range as are most of the clients, though I give some clients addresses in the 192.168.0.x/24 range to keep them isolated from the hardware and other clients. The MT box doesn't allow traffic between the 192.168.7.x and the 192.168.0.x net. ---PS2~~~PS2 with clients (192.168.0.x) / Sat modem---MT box---switch/ap with clients 192.168.7.x \ NS5M~NS5MBullet2M with clients 192.168.7.x I'm assuming now traffic for all clients transit all segments of the network i.e. traffic for a client wirelessly connected to the Bullet2M is also transiting the segment of the network comprised of the PS2's. Is that right or does the gear (in this case the switch joining the different segments of the network learn who's where and route the traffic accordingly? I'm assuming not. So if I made it so the clients on each AP were in a different subnet and static routed then traffic would only travel the pertinent network segment? Greg WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] What Dual Lan Router
I've used ClearOS for a few years and I'm very happy with it. You can add Nics on the fly to add as many as you want. Weights can be assigned per WAN, and fail over happens automatically. Even if you have a client routed over a certain WAN, the client will automatically fail-over to other available WANs. ClearOS used to be ClarkConnect. It recently changed to ClearOS, and they made the Multi-WAN available now for the free version. On 03/31/2010 12:47 PM, Nick Olsen wrote: Depends on what you want to do with it. In terms of what to use both connections for. Failover, Load Balancing...etc... I've had good luck with the mikrotik PCC stuff when it comes to 2 upstreams that are being nat'ed. Its in the wiki somewhere. Nick Olsen Network Engineer / Customer Support (321) 205-1100 x106 From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 2:36 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] What Dual Lan Router I liked the Hotbrick and how it works but it became flaky after awhile. Switched to a Linksys and got more reliablity. I'm thinking MT woudl be best but never tried it. -RickG On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 1:33 PM, ~NGL~ n...@ngl.net wrote: What Dual Wan Routers do you recommend. I now use the Hotbrick LB2, but I is now requiring rebooting too often. Thanx NGL WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Speaking of Tranzeo......
I do believe that it's the same as the older CPQ's. I could send it to you if you need it. On 04/01/2010 10:01 AM, ~NGL~ wrote: Is it the same as the TR 902 Series? NGL -- From: Kosinet Wireless wirel...@kosinet.com Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2010 8:23 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Speaking of Tranzeo.. Tried the Hotfix firmware 4.0.5 - No improvement. Does anyone have the older 3.x firmware they can send me? The Radio is a TR-SL2-15. I can't find anywhere to download the real old firmware. Thanks, Gary. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
