Re: [WISPA] Mesh just for kicks

2009-02-19 Thread Scottie Arnett
009 18:49:14 + > > >> Some MME info >> >> http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/MME_wireless_routing_protocol >> >> John >> >> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: Scottie Arnett [mailto:sarn...@info-ed.com] >>> Sent: Tuesday, Februa

Re: [WISPA] Mesh just for kicks

2009-02-19 Thread Drew Lentz
reless_routing_protocol >>> >>> John >>> >>> >>>> -----Original Message- >>>> From: Scottie Arnett [mailto:sarn...@info-ed.com] >>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 09:34 PM >>>> To: e...@wisp

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2009-02-19 Thread Matt Hardy
>> Some MME info >> >> http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/MME_wireless_routing_protocol >> >> John >> >> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: Scottie Arnett [mailto:sarn...@info-ed.com] >>> Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 09:34 PM

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2009-02-18 Thread Scottie Arnett
] >>Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 09:34 PM >>To: e...@wisp-router.com, 'WISPA General List' >>Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mesh just for kicks >> >>Too give credit where credit is due...did not a university do this to begin >>with that worked really w

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2009-02-18 Thread John J. Thomas
Some MME info http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/MME_wireless_routing_protocol John >-Original Message- >From: Scottie Arnett [mailto:sarn...@info-ed.com] >Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 09:34 PM >To: e...@wisp-router.com, 'WISPA General List' >Subject: Re: [W

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2009-02-18 Thread Paul Kralovec
...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 8:54 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mesh just for kicks There are pluses & minuses to each platform (Mikrotik & StarOS), but if you want simple, StarOS is it. -RickG On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 5:20 PM, Matt Larsen - List

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2009-02-17 Thread Scottie Arnett
oe > >Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 10:52:39 >To: WISPA General List >Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mesh just for kicks > > >Well there is also the mesh part too. Is this what you guys are talking >about when you say MT mesh: http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Mesh_wds > >If so, I wo

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2009-02-17 Thread Scottie Arnett
e to end users. Seems like you'd get a ghetto mesh for >~130/node. > >Thanks, >`S > >-Original Message- >From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf >Of Jerry Richardson >Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 10:08 PM >To: WIS

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2009-02-17 Thread Scottie Arnett
-0800 >**sigh** So anyhow, about my chest hair.. > >`S > >-Original Message- >From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf >Of os10ru...@gmail.com >Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 7:49 AM >To: WISPA General List >Subject: Re

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2009-02-17 Thread Scottie Arnett
Well said David. I "learned" of Mikrotik about 3 years ago. There is so much, that I am still "learning." It is very useful for many things, more than I care to mention, for sure when it is many less than any other solution that can do what it does that it is available in the USA. Keep in m

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2009-02-17 Thread RickG
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2009-02-17 Thread RickG
nal Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Dennis Burgess > Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 9:26 AM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mesh just for kicks > > hmmm. ice cream > > * -

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2009-02-17 Thread Jerry Richardson
tions -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Scott Vander Dussen Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 7:58 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mesh just for kicks Jerry- Thanks - is the Engenius product no longer support

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2009-02-17 Thread os10rules
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2009-02-17 Thread Matt Larsen - Lists
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2009-02-17 Thread eje
tik every since I first started using it almost hmm 7 years ago. /Eje Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: "John J. Thomas" Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 18:36:31 To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mesh just for kicks You DO NOT have to use a CLI t

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2009-02-17 Thread John J. Thomas
t; >/Eje Gustafsson >CTO >WISP-Router, Inc >Bringing MikroTik to the masses since 2002. >Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile > >-Original Message- >From: os10ru...@gmail.com > >Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 10:38:04 >To: WISPA General List >Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mesh

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2009-02-17 Thread Scott Vander Dussen
d with Open-mesh (board, indoor, and >> outdoor selections). >> >> I guess what I'm saying is that not all products are created equal and >> there is certainly a place for each one. Just be sure you know what you >> are getting! >> >> -Hal >> &g

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2009-02-17 Thread Dennis Burgess
oaded with Open-mesh (board, indoor, and >> outdoor selections). >> >> I guess what I'm saying is that not all products are created equal and >> there is certainly a place for each one. Just be sure you know what you >> are getting! >> >> -Hal >>

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2009-02-17 Thread Dennis Burgess
with > the option to have them preloaded with Open-mesh (board, indoor, and > outdoor selections). > > I guess what I'm saying is that not all products are created equal and > there is certainly a place for each one. Just be sure you know what you > are getting! > > -Hal &

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2009-02-17 Thread Harold Bledsoe
Or ice cream. :) -Original Message- From: Jack Unger Reply-To: WISPA General List To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mesh just for kicks Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 08:27:59 -0800 I think you are making the point that "mesh" is a very broad term; it's like &quo

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2009-02-17 Thread Harold Bledsoe
red uplink). That's my take on it. -Hal -Original Message- From: os10ru...@gmail.com Reply-To: WISPA General List To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mesh just for kicks Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 11:40:46 -0430 Mr. Bledsoe, I've heard it said that WDS isn't

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2009-02-17 Thread eje
: [WISPA] Mesh just for kicks Well there is also the mesh part too. Is this what you guys are talking about when you say MT mesh: http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Mesh_wds If so, I would disagree that this is a "good" mesh implementation. There are many, many more factors to consider when b

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2009-02-17 Thread eje
l List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mesh just for kicks Mr. Bledsoe, I've heard it said that WDS isn't the best option for mesh because under WDS each AP is going to repeat every packet regardless of the physical location and whether or not the data needs to pass that AP in order

Re: [WISPA] Mesh just for kicks

2009-02-17 Thread Jack Unger
age- From: os10ru...@gmail.com Reply-To: WISPA General List To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mesh just for kicks Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 10:38:04 -0430 Mr. Burgess, What frightens me about taking the leap into Mikrotik is it appears the web interface is of no use in the advanc

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2009-02-17 Thread os10rules
is that not all products are created equal and > there is certainly a place for each one. Just be sure you know what > you > are getting! > > -Hal > > > -----Original Message----- > From: os10ru...@gmail.com > Reply-To: WISPA General List > To: WISPA Genera

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2009-02-17 Thread Scott Vander Dussen
un...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jerry Richardson Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 10:08 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mesh just for kicks I just went through this exercise - spent hours looking at various options. Deliberant and Engenius are the two options I ar

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2009-02-17 Thread Scott Vander Dussen
**sigh** So anyhow, about my chest hair.. `S -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of os10ru...@gmail.com Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 7:49 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mesh just for kicks Mr. Burgess

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2009-02-17 Thread Harold Bledsoe
reated equal and there is certainly a place for each one. Just be sure you know what you are getting! -Hal -Original Message- From: os10ru...@gmail.com Reply-To: WISPA General List To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mesh just for kicks Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 10:38:04 -0430 M

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2009-02-17 Thread os10rules
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2009-02-17 Thread Dennis Burgess
t; -Original Message- > From: os10ru...@gmail.com > > Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 10:38:04 > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mesh just for kicks > > > Mr. Burgess, > > What frightens me about taking the leap into Mikrotik is it appears > t

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2009-02-17 Thread Dennis Burgess
rial from any computer. >> >> >> >> >> >> e...@wisp-router.com wrote: >> >>> MT and a consultant ;) >>> >>> /me laughing while running for cover >>> >>> Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile >>> >>

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2009-02-17 Thread eje
obile -Original Message- From: os10ru...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 10:38:04 To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mesh just for kicks Mr. Burgess, What frightens me about taking the leap into Mikrotik is it appears the web interface is of no use in the advanced configur

Re: [WISPA] Mesh just for kicks

2009-02-17 Thread David E. Smith
os10ru...@gmail.com wrote: > What frightens me about taking the leap into Mikrotik is it appears > the web interface is of no use in the advanced configuration and it > sounds like one must get heavily into the CLI and scripting. I don't > see an online repository of scripts for progra

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2009-02-17 Thread os10rules
t;> MT and a consultant ;) >> >> /me laughing while running for cover >> >> Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Scott Vander Dussen >> >> Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 21:13:03 >> To: WISPA General List >> S

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2009-02-17 Thread Dennis Burgess
ng while running for cover > > Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile > > -Original Message- > From: Scott Vander Dussen > > Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 21:13:03 > To: WISPA General List > Subject: [WISPA] Mesh just for kicks > > > Looking to deploy a small mesh netwo

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2009-02-17 Thread Charles Wu
Off-92532 More info on Open Mesh http://www.open-mesh.com/store/ -Charles -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Scott Vander Dussen Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 11:13 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Mesh just for

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2009-02-16 Thread os10rules
One more thing I forgot, if you want to use something that is more experimental, more do-it-yourself and which supports a greater variety of hardware there is OpenWRT's firmware with mesh and also http://nightwing.lugro-mesh.org.ar/en/ . These are options using routing options such as BATMAN/

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2009-02-16 Thread os10rules
I haven't used this stuff but I've been researching it and have contacted the companies. One is some ready-made two radio (2.4ghz for clients, 5ghz for backhaul) mesh hardware from Wiligear http://www.wiligear.com/?q=products/mesh/wbd-212 which still requires to you package it up (enclosure

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2009-02-16 Thread eje
MT and a consultant ;) /me laughing while running for cover Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: Scott Vander Dussen Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 21:13:03 To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Mesh just for kicks Looking to deploy a small mesh network downtown in

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2009-02-16 Thread 3-dB Networks
tworks.com >-Original Message- >From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On >Behalf Of Scott Vander Dussen >Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 10:13 PM >To: WISPA General List >Subject: [WISPA] Mesh just for kicks > >Looking to deploy a small mesh network

[WISPA] Mesh just for kicks

2009-02-16 Thread Scott Vander Dussen
Looking to deploy a small mesh network downtown in a small city just for kicks. Low budget ($4k for ~10 nodes) - just want to get my feet wet and have some fun. I'd charge for the service if it was easy enough to do and it worked good enough to justify a cost, otherwise free. Was hoping there