Re: [WISPA] Interesting product - bond 4G dongles

[chris]

+1

Also, wouldnt it be better to bond your "unlimited" 3g data plan rather
than metered 4g ? :)
4x 3G would actually be decent speed and peace of mind not worrying about
overages is always nice


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> Been around for 10 years. You can also do that with 2 mikrotiks and save
> the "bonding" monthly/yearly fees
> On Jun 20, 2014 8:02 PM, "Josh Luthman" 
> wrote:
>
>>
>> http://www.amazon.com/Peplink-Pepwave-SpeedFusion-Bonding-MAX-OTG-U4-SF/dp/B00CCWRUIY/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1403282588&sr=1-1&keywords=peplink+max
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Re: [WISPA] Interesting product - bond 4G dongles

[TJ Trout]

Been around for 10 years. You can also do that with 2 mikrotiks and save
the "bonding" monthly/yearly fees
On Jun 20, 2014 8:02 PM, "Josh Luthman"  wrote:

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[WISPA] Interesting product - bond 4G dongles

[Josh Luthman]

http://www.amazon.com/Peplink-Pepwave-SpeedFusion-Bonding-MAX-OTG-U4-SF/dp/B00CCWRUIY/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1403282588&sr=1-1&keywords=peplink+max

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Re: [WISPA] Interesting...

[Robert West]

I see that you understand, young Padawan.

:)

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Sounds like Sprint and Clearwire are just putting the yard sign out-front
for hiring 30 pizza delivery drivers 

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Clearwire steals the show at CTIA

http://www.muniwireless.com/2010/03/24/how-sprint-and-clearwire-stole-the-sh
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Re: [WISPA] Interesting...

[Mike Hammett]

I will be in line at midnight the day they open for that Evo 4G (well, as 
early as they open).


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Re: [WISPA] Interesting...

[Kurt Fankhauser]

Sounds like Sprint and Clearwire are just putting the yard sign out-front
for hiring 30 pizza delivery drivers 

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Re: [WISPA] interesting results

[Robert West]

If the signal is too hot, I bet so.  You may be scattering the RF all over
and reflecting back at you.  Rf will bounce off a sponge if loud enough.

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Normally I'd agree with you and usually look for reflection. But, this
install is only a stone's throw away from the water tank. That said, I
suppose I could be getting reflection off the tank itself.
-RickG

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> Could be a bounce.  I've had that off the metal barn roofs in the area.
> Some have a magical ability to flip the polarization.
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> I dont know if this is a question as much as a statement of interest. I've
> had a few customer that wanted faster speeds and couldnt wait until my
5GHz
> sectors were up. So, I used a NS5 and connected right off my backhaul
grids
> and they worked great. I dont plan to leave them on the backhauls but it
> works for now. The interesting part is my installer set up a 3rd customer
> today but he didnt realize my backhauls are H-Pol. He actually got higher
> signal and faster speed tests then the other two! Now I'm confused!
> (Backhauls are WRAP/StarOS with 21DB grids.)
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Re: [WISPA] interesting results

[RickG]

Normally I'd agree with you and usually look for reflection. But, this
install is only a stone's throw away from the water tank. That said, I
suppose I could be getting reflection off the tank itself.
-RickG

On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 11:02 PM, Robert West wrote:

> Could be a bounce.  I've had that off the metal barn roofs in the area.
> Some have a magical ability to flip the polarization.
>
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> I dont know if this is a question as much as a statement of interest. I've
> had a few customer that wanted faster speeds and couldnt wait until my 5GHz
> sectors were up. So, I used a NS5 and connected right off my backhaul grids
> and they worked great. I dont plan to leave them on the backhauls but it
> works for now. The interesting part is my installer set up a 3rd customer
> today but he didnt realize my backhauls are H-Pol. He actually got higher
> signal and faster speed tests then the other two! Now I'm confused!
> (Backhauls are WRAP/StarOS with 21DB grids.)
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Re: [WISPA] interesting results

[Robert West]

Could be a bounce.  I've had that off the metal barn roofs in the area.
Some have a magical ability to flip the polarization.

Bob-



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I dont know if this is a question as much as a statement of interest. I've
had a few customer that wanted faster speeds and couldnt wait until my 5GHz
sectors were up. So, I used a NS5 and connected right off my backhaul grids
and they worked great. I dont plan to leave them on the backhauls but it
works for now. The interesting part is my installer set up a 3rd customer
today but he didnt realize my backhauls are H-Pol. He actually got higher
signal and faster speed tests then the other two! Now I'm confused!
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Re: [WISPA] interesting results

[Stuart Pierce]

Patches are in bassackwards


-- Original Message --
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Date:  Mon, 1 Feb 2010 20:43:24 -0500

>You got it except, the installer set it for v-pol because it worked better
>than h-pol! Go figure?
>
>On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 8:24 PM, Nick Olsen  wrote:
>
>> So if I follow, You hooked people to your backhaul radio, And the CPE was a
>> NS5?
>> If I'm not mistaken, The default antenna setting on the NS5's is Adaptive,
>> so it will pick. Let me know if I'm way off on the scenario...
>>
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>> (321) 205-1100 x106
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>> From: "RickG" 
>> Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 8:04 PM
>> To: "WISPA General List" 
>> Subject: [WISPA] interesting results
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>> I dont know if this is a question as much as a statement of interest. I've
>> had a few customer that wanted faster speeds and couldnt wait until my
>> 5GHz
>> sectors were up. So, I used a NS5 and connected right off my backhaul
>> grids
>> and they worked great. I dont plan to leave them on the backhauls but it
>> works for now. The interesting part is my installer set up a 3rd customer
>> today but he didnt realize my backhauls are H-Pol. He actually got higher
>> signal and faster speed tests then the other two! Now I'm confused!
>> (Backhauls are WRAP/StarOS with 21DB grids.)
>> -RickG
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Re: [WISPA] interesting results

[Stuart Pierce]

I believe it's set for Horizontal out of the box.

-- Original Message --
From: "Nick Olsen" 
Reply-To: n...@brevardwireless.com, WISPA General List 
Date:  Mon, 1 Feb 2010 20:24:19 -0500

>So if I follow, You hooked people to your backhaul radio, And the CPE was a 
>NS5?
>If I'm not mistaken, The default antenna setting on the NS5's is Adaptive, 
>so it will pick. Let me know if I'm way off on the scenario...
>
>Nick Olsen
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>From: "RickG" 
>Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 8:04 PM
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>Subject: [WISPA] interesting results
>
>I dont know if this is a question as much as a statement of interest. I've
>had a few customer that wanted faster speeds and couldnt wait until my 
>5GHz
>sectors were up. So, I used a NS5 and connected right off my backhaul 
>grids
>and they worked great. I dont plan to leave them on the backhauls but it
>works for now. The interesting part is my installer set up a 3rd customer
>today but he didnt realize my backhauls are H-Pol. He actually got higher
>signal and faster speed tests then the other two! Now I'm confused!
>(Backhauls are WRAP/StarOS with 21DB grids.)
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Re: [WISPA] interesting results

[RickG]

Ya, I already corrected it. It just doesnt feel right. I'll have PTMP
sectors up there soon. Thanks!

On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 8:51 PM, Chuck Hogg  wrote:

> I really think if left alone, this is going to cause RF issues in the
> future.  Additionally, the Grids are going to provide a much hotter
> signal than your sectors or omni's in the same place.  So much so, that
> the client may not reconnect to the omni or sector you plan on putting
> up there.
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> You got it except, the installer set it for v-pol because it worked
> better
> than h-pol! Go figure?
>
> On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 8:24 PM, Nick Olsen 
> wrote:
>
> > So if I follow, You hooked people to your backhaul radio, And the CPE
> was a
> > NS5?
> > If I'm not mistaken, The default antenna setting on the NS5's is
> Adaptive,
> > so it will pick. Let me know if I'm way off on the scenario...
> >
> > Nick Olsen
> > Network Engineer / Customer Support
> > (321) 205-1100 x106
> >
> > 
> >
> > From: "RickG" 
> > Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 8:04 PM
> > To: "WISPA General List" 
> > Subject: [WISPA] interesting results
> >
> > I dont know if this is a question as much as a statement of interest.
> I've
> > had a few customer that wanted faster speeds and couldnt wait until my
> > 5GHz
> > sectors were up. So, I used a NS5 and connected right off my backhaul
> > grids
> > and they worked great. I dont plan to leave them on the backhauls but
> it
> > works for now. The interesting part is my installer set up a 3rd
> customer
> > today but he didnt realize my backhauls are H-Pol. He actually got
> higher
> > signal and faster speed tests then the other two! Now I'm confused!
> > (Backhauls are WRAP/StarOS with 21DB grids.)
> > -RickG
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Re: [WISPA] interesting results

[Chuck Hogg]

I really think if left alone, this is going to cause RF issues in the
future.  Additionally, the Grids are going to provide a much hotter
signal than your sectors or omni's in the same place.  So much so, that
the client may not reconnect to the omni or sector you plan on putting
up there.

Regards,
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Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 8:43 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] interesting results

You got it except, the installer set it for v-pol because it worked
better
than h-pol! Go figure?

On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 8:24 PM, Nick Olsen 
wrote:

> So if I follow, You hooked people to your backhaul radio, And the CPE
was a
> NS5?
> If I'm not mistaken, The default antenna setting on the NS5's is
Adaptive,
> so it will pick. Let me know if I'm way off on the scenario...
>
> Nick Olsen
> Network Engineer / Customer Support
> (321) 205-1100 x106
>
> 
>
> From: "RickG" 
> Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 8:04 PM
> To: "WISPA General List" 
> Subject: [WISPA] interesting results
>
> I dont know if this is a question as much as a statement of interest.
I've
> had a few customer that wanted faster speeds and couldnt wait until my
> 5GHz
> sectors were up. So, I used a NS5 and connected right off my backhaul
> grids
> and they worked great. I dont plan to leave them on the backhauls but
it
> works for now. The interesting part is my installer set up a 3rd
customer
> today but he didnt realize my backhauls are H-Pol. He actually got
higher
> signal and faster speed tests then the other two! Now I'm confused!
> (Backhauls are WRAP/StarOS with 21DB grids.)
> -RickG
>
>
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Re: [WISPA] interesting results

[Nick Olsen]

o.0
strange

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From: "RickG" 
Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 8:43 PM
To: n...@brevardwireless.com, "WISPA General List" 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] interesting results

You got it except, the installer set it for v-pol because it worked better
than h-pol! Go figure?

On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 8:24 PM, Nick Olsen  
wrote:

> So if I follow, You hooked people to your backhaul radio, And the CPE was 
a
> NS5?
> If I'm not mistaken, The default antenna setting on the NS5's is 
Adaptive,
> so it will pick. Let me know if I'm way off on the scenario...
>
> Nick Olsen
> Network Engineer / Customer Support
> (321) 205-1100 x106
>
> 
>
> From: "RickG" 
> Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 8:04 PM
> To: "WISPA General List" 
> Subject: [WISPA] interesting results
>
> I dont know if this is a question as much as a statement of interest. 
I've
> had a few customer that wanted faster speeds and couldnt wait until my
> 5GHz
> sectors were up. So, I used a NS5 and connected right off my backhaul
> grids
> and they worked great. I dont plan to leave them on the backhauls but it
> works for now. The interesting part is my installer set up a 3rd 
customer
> today but he didnt realize my backhauls are H-Pol. He actually got 
higher
> signal and faster speed tests then the other two! Now I'm confused!
> (Backhauls are WRAP/StarOS with 21DB grids.)
> -RickG
>
>
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Re: [WISPA] interesting results

[RickG]

You got it except, the installer set it for v-pol because it worked better
than h-pol! Go figure?

On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 8:24 PM, Nick Olsen  wrote:

> So if I follow, You hooked people to your backhaul radio, And the CPE was a
> NS5?
> If I'm not mistaken, The default antenna setting on the NS5's is Adaptive,
> so it will pick. Let me know if I'm way off on the scenario...
>
> Nick Olsen
> Network Engineer / Customer Support
> (321) 205-1100 x106
>
> 
>
> From: "RickG" 
> Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 8:04 PM
> To: "WISPA General List" 
> Subject: [WISPA] interesting results
>
> I dont know if this is a question as much as a statement of interest. I've
> had a few customer that wanted faster speeds and couldnt wait until my
> 5GHz
> sectors were up. So, I used a NS5 and connected right off my backhaul
> grids
> and they worked great. I dont plan to leave them on the backhauls but it
> works for now. The interesting part is my installer set up a 3rd customer
> today but he didnt realize my backhauls are H-Pol. He actually got higher
> signal and faster speed tests then the other two! Now I'm confused!
> (Backhauls are WRAP/StarOS with 21DB grids.)
> -RickG
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Re: [WISPA] interesting results

[Robert West]

On my Nano5's I've had the default show up as Horizontal, of all things.  On
the 5M's I've had it different depending on firmware.  Go figure.

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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Nick Olsen
Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 8:24 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] interesting results

So if I follow, You hooked people to your backhaul radio, And the CPE was a 
NS5?
If I'm not mistaken, The default antenna setting on the NS5's is Adaptive, 
so it will pick. Let me know if I'm way off on the scenario...

Nick Olsen
Network Engineer / Customer Support
(321) 205-1100 x106



From: "RickG" 
Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 8:04 PM
To: "WISPA General List" 
Subject: [WISPA] interesting results

I dont know if this is a question as much as a statement of interest. I've
had a few customer that wanted faster speeds and couldnt wait until my 
5GHz
sectors were up. So, I used a NS5 and connected right off my backhaul 
grids
and they worked great. I dont plan to leave them on the backhauls but it
works for now. The interesting part is my installer set up a 3rd customer
today but he didnt realize my backhauls are H-Pol. He actually got higher
signal and faster speed tests then the other two! Now I'm confused!
(Backhauls are WRAP/StarOS with 21DB grids.)
-RickG



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Re: [WISPA] interesting results

[Nick Olsen]

So if I follow, You hooked people to your backhaul radio, And the CPE was a 
NS5?
If I'm not mistaken, The default antenna setting on the NS5's is Adaptive, 
so it will pick. Let me know if I'm way off on the scenario...

Nick Olsen
Network Engineer / Customer Support
(321) 205-1100 x106



From: "RickG" 
Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 8:04 PM
To: "WISPA General List" 
Subject: [WISPA] interesting results

I dont know if this is a question as much as a statement of interest. I've
had a few customer that wanted faster speeds and couldnt wait until my 
5GHz
sectors were up. So, I used a NS5 and connected right off my backhaul 
grids
and they worked great. I dont plan to leave them on the backhauls but it
works for now. The interesting part is my installer set up a 3rd customer
today but he didnt realize my backhauls are H-Pol. He actually got higher
signal and faster speed tests then the other two! Now I'm confused!
(Backhauls are WRAP/StarOS with 21DB grids.)
-RickG



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Re: [WISPA] interesting results

[Robert West]

I'm with ya, Rick.  I have 2 installed the same way.  Not in the rules
really, since my backhauls are pumping the power, too much for a PTMP as
that ends up turning it into but as a temporary solution, it's cool on this
side of things.  :)  One was for lack of a sector and the other was because,
due to trees, it was the best signal I could get until I get another AP
finished.  (signal is a -84, makes me nervous!)

Bob-





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Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 8:04 PM
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Subject: [WISPA] interesting results

I dont know if this is a question as much as a statement of interest. I've
had a few customer that wanted faster speeds and couldnt wait until my 5GHz
sectors were up. So, I used a NS5 and connected right off my backhaul grids
and they worked great. I dont plan to leave them on the backhauls but it
works for now. The interesting part is my installer set up a 3rd customer
today but he didnt realize my backhauls are H-Pol. He actually got higher
signal and faster speed tests then the other two! Now I'm confused!
(Backhauls are WRAP/StarOS with 21DB grids.)
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[WISPA] interesting results

[RickG]

I dont know if this is a question as much as a statement of interest. I've
had a few customer that wanted faster speeds and couldnt wait until my 5GHz
sectors were up. So, I used a NS5 and connected right off my backhaul grids
and they worked great. I dont plan to leave them on the backhauls but it
works for now. The interesting part is my installer set up a 3rd customer
today but he didnt realize my backhauls are H-Pol. He actually got higher
signal and faster speed tests then the other two! Now I'm confused!
(Backhauls are WRAP/StarOS with 21DB grids.)
-RickG



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[WISPA] interesting ad comparison of bull

[Marco Coelho]

http://gizmodo.com/5432332/basically-every-isp-is-trying-to-scare-you-into-paying-for-internet-you-dont-need

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Re: [WISPA] Interesting articles

[Mike Hammett]

I'll admit that I haven't been paying much attention to Twitter lately with 
a swarm of messages.  Hopefully someone else can filter the important ones 
through.


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From: "Tom DeReggi" 
Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 6:25 PM
To: "WISPA General List" 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Interesting articles

> Let me add that broadbandcensus has been following the legilsation and
> proceeding from day 1 (mid January) with daily updates. It has by far been
> the best coverage overall.
> Drew has done a wonderful job.
>
> Tom DeReggi
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> - Original Message - 
> From: "Mike Hammett" 
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> Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 11:13 AM
> Subject: [WISPA] Interesting articles
>
>
>> http://broadbandcensus.com/2009/05/21st-spectrum-policy-should-include-map-experts-say/
>>
>> http://broadbandcensus.com/2009/05/internet-providers-consumer-advocates-optimistic-on-internet-regulatory-outlook/
>>
>> http://broadbandcensus.com/2009/05/tps-notebook-lawmakers-tech-pioneers-discuss-broadbands-economic-value/
>>
>> http://broadbandcensus.com/2009/05/house-chairman-rick-boucher-private-companies-should-embrace-broadband-stimulus-funds/
>>
>> http://broadbandcensus.com/2009/05/better-data-more-home-computers-could-be-best-practices-on-demand-side-experts-say/
>>
>> http://broadbandcensus.com/2009/05/californias-lessons-could-be-model-for-broadband-stimulus-experts-say/
>>
>>
>>
>> -
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Re: [WISPA] Interesting articles

[Tom DeReggi]

Let me add that broadbandcensus has been following the legilsation and 
proceeding from day 1 (mid January) with daily updates. It has by far been 
the best coverage overall.
Drew has done a wonderful job.

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From: "Mike Hammett" 
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Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 11:13 AM
Subject: [WISPA] Interesting articles


> http://broadbandcensus.com/2009/05/21st-spectrum-policy-should-include-map-experts-say/
>
> http://broadbandcensus.com/2009/05/internet-providers-consumer-advocates-optimistic-on-internet-regulatory-outlook/
>
> http://broadbandcensus.com/2009/05/tps-notebook-lawmakers-tech-pioneers-discuss-broadbands-economic-value/
>
> http://broadbandcensus.com/2009/05/house-chairman-rick-boucher-private-companies-should-embrace-broadband-stimulus-funds/
>
> http://broadbandcensus.com/2009/05/better-data-more-home-computers-could-be-best-practices-on-demand-side-experts-say/
>
> http://broadbandcensus.com/2009/05/californias-lessons-could-be-model-for-broadband-stimulus-experts-say/
>
>
>
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[WISPA] Interesting articles

[Mike Hammett]

http://broadbandcensus.com/2009/05/21st-spectrum-policy-should-include-map-experts-say/

http://broadbandcensus.com/2009/05/internet-providers-consumer-advocates-optimistic-on-internet-regulatory-outlook/

http://broadbandcensus.com/2009/05/tps-notebook-lawmakers-tech-pioneers-discuss-broadbands-economic-value/

http://broadbandcensus.com/2009/05/house-chairman-rick-boucher-private-companies-should-embrace-broadband-stimulus-funds/

http://broadbandcensus.com/2009/05/better-data-more-home-computers-could-be-best-practices-on-demand-side-experts-say/
 

http://broadbandcensus.com/2009/05/californias-lessons-could-be-model-for-broadband-stimulus-experts-say/



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Re: [WISPA] Interesting BGP Redundancy Opton for FREE

[Tom DeReggi]

Scott,

Actually, I originally missed the part about "mikrotik router".
We don't use Mikrotik routers currently, as they can not accommodate us 
loading our custom management software code.
But all our servers are Linux based, so can likely do anything that Mikrotik 
can, (with a little bit of effort).

Butch was suggesting using PPTP. I need to double check that we have a PPTP 
package loaded on our routers, and if not, load one first.
(I could always get a MT box to do the tunnel, and just allocate an Ethernet 
port on my Linux router to it, but I'd need to procure a MT unit first. )
I agree, at minimum, it would be a fun experiment,with no disadvantage. We 
have plenty of free bandwidth.

We should probably take this offlist, at this point.
We can always share the results with the list, after the fact.

Tom DeReggi
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IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


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Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2009 6:58 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Interesting BGP Redundancy Opton for FREE


>
> Hello again...
>
> I didn't specify comcast but in the context of our discussion it doesn't
> matter much :)
>
> Tom...  Lets just do a test from your network to mine.  A learning
> experience if nothing else - can't go wrong there.
>
> I've never heard of CIPE but I assure you that MT has no problem 
> whatsoever
> passing traffic from anyone over a tunnel between us, I think you are hung
> up on something that is a non-issue and what Butch mentioned was not about
> over one's own network - he understood that it was from some end user
> provider to another with multiple possible ISPs in the middle...  its a
> mute point who's in the middle really with whats being proposed and how it
> works.
>
> I have a router ready to go, you?  Latency between us is good, less than
> 30ms.  I 60MB on any given day/time still available not doing anything,
> usually a little more.
>
> Scott Carullo
> Brevard Wireless
> 321-205-1100 x102
>
>  Original Message 
>> From: "Tom DeReggi" 
>> Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2009 6:49 PM
>> To: "WISPA General List" 
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Interesting BGP Redundancy Opton for FREE
>>
>> Butch,
>>
>> You completely missed my point, ot the background to the thread..
>> Of course "you" can build a tunnel of just about any MTU size on "your"
>> network.
>> The issue at hand is what max MTU size OTHER upstream ISPs allow on their
>
>> network.
>>
>> Scott was talkng about doing a tunnel accross an end user Comcast
> circuit.
>> With the open Internet, the two end point end users don't really have
>> control of what ISPs in between  gets traversed from End Point A to B.
> The
>> ISPs in the middle could chance at any time. This is not a new
> problem
>>
>> For example A number of years back Universities built a "private"
>> experimental transport network to support high MTU above 9600, so that
> their
>> GB and 10GB networks could pass full capacity.  As you know, max transfer
>
>> rate is directly proportional to latency times packet size. Most common
> ISPs
>> only passed 1500MTU, therefore the Universities had to make their own
> net.
>> This has been a challenge for years for even passing VLAN tags or MPLS
> data,
>> where layer2 fiber carriers would only pass a 1512 packet.  When you are
> the
>> end user, the answer is to shrink your MTU, so after the tunnel overhead
> it
>> fits into the ISP's max 1512 MTU.  But when one is an tranport ISP that
>> transports many customer's data, it is not appropriate for the ISP to
> shrink
>> his MTU below 1500, as all the other end users would not know that the
> MTU
>> was shrunk, and would not have their routers set to a smaller MTU to
> fit.
>>
>> Sure you can allow fragmentation, and TCP will automatically split the
>> packets to fit, but it has been common ISP management practice to
> disallow
>> fragmentation for various reasons that I don't want to get into in this
>> thread. And yes, there is MTU autolearning, but again, not supported by
>> everyone or all protocols.
>>
>> So sure, the ISP can make a tunnel setting a lower MTU, so after tunel
>> overhead, it will fit in the uipstream's 1512 MTU. But then full size
>> packets (because packets comming from end user customers will be 1512
> size)
>> inside the tunnel will get fragmented to fit into the tunnel.  For long
> haul
>> backhauls, there can be side effects of  just simply all

Re: [WISPA] Interesting BGP Redundancy Opton for FREE

[Butch Evans]

On Sun, 2009-04-26 at 18:57 -0400, Tom DeReggi wrote:
> > Of the tunnels I've done with MT, you just use PPtP and set the MRRU
> > (just like your tunnels).  I've done this with standard Linux, too.  It
> > is actually quite an elegant solution.
> 
> Actually I missed this part of your post, before making my last post
> 
> Am I understanding correctly Are you saying.
> When using PPTP and you set the MRRU to the same as your tunnels, both your 
> tunnel ethernet packet size can be 1512, while the ethernet packet size for 
> data inside the tunnel also can be 1512?  Meaning that PPTP does not 
> increase the Ethernet packet size, in order to be implemented?

You can set the MRRU to 65535 if you want.

> (PS, I don't recall the details of PPTP. We generally use IPSEC, OpenVPN, 
> VLANs, MPLS, all of which increase ethernet packetsize above 1512, unless IP 
> payload MTU is reduced..)

The tunnel itself will be whatever the transport MTU is.  You can even
do (if you desire) a PPtP over OpenVPN to get the added encryption.  For
what it's worth, it is documented:
http://www.mikrotik.com/testdocs/ros/3.0/vpn/pptp.php

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Re: [WISPA] Interesting BGP Redundancy Opton for FREE

[Butch Evans]

On Sun, 2009-04-26 at 18:48 -0400, Tom DeReggi wrote:
> You completely missed my point, ot the background to the thread..
> Of course "you" can build a tunnel of just about any MTU size on "your" 
> network.
> The issue at hand is what max MTU size OTHER upstream ISPs allow on their 
> network.

I built one tunnel from an AT&T T1 circuit in Tennessee to a site in
California that was terminated by Cox.  This particular tunnel is
currently carrying 10k byte packets. Is that clear enough?

> Again, we have a good solution for this... It is called CIPE. Its a 
> tunneling protocol that splits the packets appropriately for optimal 
> efficiency. I understand how CIPE works because it is what we use. I can't 
> say I understand the methods that Mikrotik may use.  So, what I asked is how 
> Mikrotik can deal with that problem, because Mikrotik does not support CIPE.

Mikrotik has a documented solution.  The above tunnel description is an
example using Mikrotik.  For what it's worth, this is a bridged segment.
And, there are 2 other endpoints (on the internet) that are part of this
network.  I didn't miss your point, I simply said it is possible to do
and it's not difficult at all.

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Re: [WISPA] Interesting BGP Redundancy Opton for FREE

[Scott Carullo]

Hello again...

I didn't specify comcast but in the context of our discussion it doesn't 
matter much :)

Tom...  Lets just do a test from your network to mine.  A learning 
experience if nothing else - can't go wrong there.

I've never heard of CIPE but I assure you that MT has no problem whatsoever 
passing traffic from anyone over a tunnel between us, I think you are hung 
up on something that is a non-issue and what Butch mentioned was not about 
over one's own network - he understood that it was from some end user 
provider to another with multiple possible ISPs in the middle...  its a 
mute point who's in the middle really with whats being proposed and how it 
works.

I have a router ready to go, you?  Latency between us is good, less than 
30ms.  I 60MB on any given day/time still available not doing anything, 
usually a little more.

Scott Carullo
Brevard Wireless
321-205-1100 x102

 Original Message 
> From: "Tom DeReggi" 
> Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2009 6:49 PM
> To: "WISPA General List" 
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Interesting BGP Redundancy Opton for FREE
> 
> Butch,
> 
> You completely missed my point, ot the background to the thread..
> Of course "you" can build a tunnel of just about any MTU size on "your" 
> network.
> The issue at hand is what max MTU size OTHER upstream ISPs allow on their 

> network.
> 
> Scott was talkng about doing a tunnel accross an end user Comcast 
circuit. 
> With the open Internet, the two end point end users don't really have 
> control of what ISPs in between  gets traversed from End Point A to B.  
The 
> ISPs in the middle could chance at any time. This is not a new 
problem
> 
> For example A number of years back Universities built a "private" 
> experimental transport network to support high MTU above 9600, so that 
their 
> GB and 10GB networks could pass full capacity.  As you know, max transfer 

> rate is directly proportional to latency times packet size. Most common 
ISPs 
> only passed 1500MTU, therefore the Universities had to make their own 
net. 
> This has been a challenge for years for even passing VLAN tags or MPLS 
data, 
> where layer2 fiber carriers would only pass a 1512 packet.  When you are 
the 
> end user, the answer is to shrink your MTU, so after the tunnel overhead 
it 
> fits into the ISP's max 1512 MTU.  But when one is an tranport ISP that 
> transports many customer's data, it is not appropriate for the ISP to 
shrink 
> his MTU below 1500, as all the other end users would not know that the 
MTU 
> was shrunk, and would not have their routers set to a smaller MTU to 
fit.
> 
> Sure you can allow fragmentation, and TCP will automatically split the 
> packets to fit, but it has been common ISP management practice to 
disallow 
> fragmentation for various reasons that I don't want to get into in this 
> thread. And yes, there is MTU autolearning, but again, not supported by 
> everyone or all protocols.
> 
> So sure, the ISP can make a tunnel setting a lower MTU, so after tunel 
> overhead, it will fit in the uipstream's 1512 MTU. But then full size 
> packets (because packets comming from end user customers will be 1512 
size) 
> inside the tunnel will get fragmented to fit into the tunnel.  For long 
haul 
> backhauls, there can be side effects of  just simply allowing 
fragmentation 
> on the routers without any further consideration.
> 
> Again, we have a good solution for this... It is called CIPE. Its a 
> tunneling protocol that splits the packets appropriately for optimal 
> efficiency. I understand how CIPE works because it is what we use. I 
can't 
> say I understand the methods that Mikrotik may use.  So, what I asked is 
how 
> Mikrotik can deal with that problem, because Mikrotik does not support 
CIPE.
> 
> 
> Tom DeReggi
> RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
> IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
> 
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Butch Evans" 
> To: "WISPA General List" 
> Sent: Friday, April 24, 2009 11:03 PM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Interesting BGP Redundancy Opton for FREE
> 
> 
> > On Fri, 2009-04-24 at 19:37 -0400, Tom DeReggi wrote:
> >> Over a Layer2 PTP its usually not an issue, but it is over a standard
> >> transit connection.
> >> (customer and Internet needs to see 1500 bytes, but an ISP's tunnel 
> >> causes
> >> packet size to exceed 1500 MTU.
> >
> > I have built tunnels that carry 12000 byte packets.  Not sure where 
this
> > idea comes from.  They can be built that will carry as much as 65k
> > bytes.
> >
> >> We u

Re: [WISPA] Interesting BGP Redundancy Opton for FREE

[Tom DeReggi]

Butch,

> Of the tunnels I've done with MT, you just use PPtP and set the MRRU
> (just like your tunnels).  I've done this with standard Linux, too.  It
> is actually quite an elegant solution.

Actually I missed this part of your post, before making my last post

Am I understanding correctly Are you saying.
When using PPTP and you set the MRRU to the same as your tunnels, both your 
tunnel ethernet packet size can be 1512, while the ethernet packet size for 
data inside the tunnel also can be 1512?  Meaning that PPTP does not 
increase the Ethernet packet size, in order to be implemented?

(PS, I don't recall the details of PPTP. We generally use IPSEC, OpenVPN, 
VLANs, MPLS, all of which increase ethernet packetsize above 1512, unless IP 
payload MTU is reduced..)

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


- Original Message - 
From: "Butch Evans" 
To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Friday, April 24, 2009 11:03 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Interesting BGP Redundancy Opton for FREE


> On Fri, 2009-04-24 at 19:37 -0400, Tom DeReggi wrote:
>> Over a Layer2 PTP its usually not an issue, but it is over a standard
>> transit connection.
>> (customer and Internet needs to see 1500 bytes, but an ISP's tunnel 
>> causes
>> packet size to exceed 1500 MTU.
>
> I have built tunnels that carry 12000 byte packets.  Not sure where this
> idea comes from.  They can be built that will carry as much as 65k
> bytes.
>
>> We use Cipe tunnels to solve that. To split the full size packets before 
>> it
>> enters the tunnel, so tunnel stays at 1500MTU or less, required by the
>> transit provider..
>>
>> How do you do it with Mikrotik ?
>
> Of the tunnels I've done with MT, you just use PPtP and set the MRRU
> (just like your tunnels).  I've done this with standard Linux, too.  It
> is actually quite an elegant solution.
>
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Re: [WISPA] Interesting BGP Redundancy Opton for FREE

[Tom DeReggi]

Butch,

You completely missed my point, ot the background to the thread..
Of course "you" can build a tunnel of just about any MTU size on "your" 
network.
The issue at hand is what max MTU size OTHER upstream ISPs allow on their 
network.

Scott was talkng about doing a tunnel accross an end user Comcast circuit. 
With the open Internet, the two end point end users don't really have 
control of what ISPs in between  gets traversed from End Point A to B.  The 
ISPs in the middle could chance at any time. This is not a new problem

For example A number of years back Universities built a "private" 
experimental transport network to support high MTU above 9600, so that their 
GB and 10GB networks could pass full capacity.  As you know, max transfer 
rate is directly proportional to latency times packet size. Most common ISPs 
only passed 1500MTU, therefore the Universities had to make their own net. 
This has been a challenge for years for even passing VLAN tags or MPLS data, 
where layer2 fiber carriers would only pass a 1512 packet.  When you are the 
end user, the answer is to shrink your MTU, so after the tunnel overhead it 
fits into the ISP's max 1512 MTU.  But when one is an tranport ISP that 
transports many customer's data, it is not appropriate for the ISP to shrink 
his MTU below 1500, as all the other end users would not know that the MTU 
was shrunk, and would not have their routers set to a smaller MTU to fit.

Sure you can allow fragmentation, and TCP will automatically split the 
packets to fit, but it has been common ISP management practice to disallow 
fragmentation for various reasons that I don't want to get into in this 
thread. And yes, there is MTU autolearning, but again, not supported by 
everyone or all protocols.

So sure, the ISP can make a tunnel setting a lower MTU, so after tunel 
overhead, it will fit in the uipstream's 1512 MTU. But then full size 
packets (because packets comming from end user customers will be 1512 size) 
inside the tunnel will get fragmented to fit into the tunnel.  For long haul 
backhauls, there can be side effects of  just simply allowing fragmentation 
on the routers without any further consideration.

Again, we have a good solution for this... It is called CIPE. Its a 
tunneling protocol that splits the packets appropriately for optimal 
efficiency. I understand how CIPE works because it is what we use. I can't 
say I understand the methods that Mikrotik may use.  So, what I asked is how 
Mikrotik can deal with that problem, because Mikrotik does not support CIPE.


Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


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From: "Butch Evans" 
To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Friday, April 24, 2009 11:03 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Interesting BGP Redundancy Opton for FREE


> On Fri, 2009-04-24 at 19:37 -0400, Tom DeReggi wrote:
>> Over a Layer2 PTP its usually not an issue, but it is over a standard
>> transit connection.
>> (customer and Internet needs to see 1500 bytes, but an ISP's tunnel 
>> causes
>> packet size to exceed 1500 MTU.
>
> I have built tunnels that carry 12000 byte packets.  Not sure where this
> idea comes from.  They can be built that will carry as much as 65k
> bytes.
>
>> We use Cipe tunnels to solve that. To split the full size packets before 
>> it
>> enters the tunnel, so tunnel stays at 1500MTU or less, required by the
>> transit provider..
>>
>> How do you do it with Mikrotik ?
>
> Of the tunnels I've done with MT, you just use PPtP and set the MRRU
> (just like your tunnels).  I've done this with standard Linux, too.  It
> is actually quite an elegant solution.
>
> -- 
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Re: [WISPA] Interesting BGP Redundancy Opton for FREE

[Butch Evans]

On Fri, 2009-04-24 at 19:37 -0400, Tom DeReggi wrote:
> Over a Layer2 PTP its usually not an issue, but it is over a standard 
> transit connection.
> (customer and Internet needs to see 1500 bytes, but an ISP's tunnel causes 
> packet size to exceed 1500 MTU.

I have built tunnels that carry 12000 byte packets.  Not sure where this
idea comes from.  They can be built that will carry as much as 65k
bytes.

> We use Cipe tunnels to solve that. To split the full size packets before it 
> enters the tunnel, so tunnel stays at 1500MTU or less, required by the 
> transit provider..
> 
> How do you do it with Mikrotik ?

Of the tunnels I've done with MT, you just use PPtP and set the MRRU
(just like your tunnels).  I've done this with standard Linux, too.  It
is actually quite an elegant solution.

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Re: [WISPA] Interesting BGP Redundancy Opton for FREE

[Tom DeReggi]

Also remember the 1500 byte MTU issue.
Over a Layer2 PTP its usually not an issue, but it is over a standard 
transit connection.
(customer and Internet needs to see 1500 bytes, but an ISP's tunnel causes 
packet size to exceed 1500 MTU.
Customer end devices have the option of lowering their MTU to deal with it, 
but an ISP in the middle does not have that option, as the packets comming 
from end users are 1500 byte already. Fragmentation is not allowed on many 
network router hops.

We use Cipe tunnels to solve that. To split the full size packets before it 
enters the tunnel, so tunnel stays at 1500MTU or less, required by the 
transit provider..

How do you do it with Mikrotik ?

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


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To: ; "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Friday, April 24, 2009 7:06 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Interesting BGP Redundancy Opton for FREE


> We do this quite a bit with smaller wisps, place a PowerRouter at a NOC,
> and send IPs and data to them via cable/dsl whatever.  All of their
> publics work regardless of the connections and we also allow them to use
> multiple connections too.  we are rolling out a number of shared systems
> like that around the US.  I will have to see what I can do as far as
> costs to you.
>
> Scott Carullo wrote:
>> Ok...  I have multiple peers, bgp, etc...  Normal stuff.
>>
>> I am looking for someone who has MT, has bgp peers but maybe would like 
>> to
>> have a little more redundancy just in case.  For example our main router
>> with both peers is in the same facility so I still currently have some
>> single point of failure issues I'd like to resolve.  Bottom line - a 
>> plane
>> crashes into my facility and I'm off the air for a while.
>>
>> If you are in this same boat, I have a solution I believe, that won't 
>> cost
>> either of us hardly anything.  We get a cable connection (or whatever 
>> cheap
>> business class connection) that is say 20MB down and 2MB up (for example)
>> at a remote site in another city where our network spans.  We create a
>> tunnel between our routers and if either side main fiber or router goes
>> down traffic can be re-routed temporarily via this connection and the
>> down-speed would be pulling from the others main fiber feeds so it should
>> stil be fast enough to make a lot of the pain go away - better than being
>> down any way.  The BGP session between sites would also allow incoming
>> traffic for email / web etc to operate as well - which is the only thing
>> this solution adds to a non-BGP type backup circuit.
>>
>> Any way, this is not a replacement for having multiple bgp peers with 
>> real
>> connections, don't take it that way.  This is a low cost way to help each
>> other out in worst case scenario for whoever may be in this same 
>> position.
>> I'm willing to explore options any way if someone else is interested. 
>> Send
>> me an email, we can discuss further.
>>
>> Scott Carullo
>> Brevard Wireless
>> 321-205-1100 x102
>>
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Re: [WISPA] Interesting BGP Redundancy Opton for FREE

[Dennis Burgess]

We do this quite a bit with smaller wisps, place a PowerRouter at a NOC, 
and send IPs and data to them via cable/dsl whatever.  All of their 
publics work regardless of the connections and we also allow them to use 
multiple connections too.  we are rolling out a number of shared systems 
like that around the US.  I will have to see what I can do as far as 
costs to you. 

Scott Carullo wrote:
> Ok...  I have multiple peers, bgp, etc...  Normal stuff.
>
> I am looking for someone who has MT, has bgp peers but maybe would like to 
> have a little more redundancy just in case.  For example our main router 
> with both peers is in the same facility so I still currently have some 
> single point of failure issues I'd like to resolve.  Bottom line - a plane 
> crashes into my facility and I'm off the air for a while.
>
> If you are in this same boat, I have a solution I believe, that won't cost 
> either of us hardly anything.  We get a cable connection (or whatever cheap 
> business class connection) that is say 20MB down and 2MB up (for example) 
> at a remote site in another city where our network spans.  We create a 
> tunnel between our routers and if either side main fiber or router goes 
> down traffic can be re-routed temporarily via this connection and the 
> down-speed would be pulling from the others main fiber feeds so it should 
> stil be fast enough to make a lot of the pain go away - better than being 
> down any way.  The BGP session between sites would also allow incoming 
> traffic for email / web etc to operate as well - which is the only thing 
> this solution adds to a non-BGP type backup circuit.  
>
> Any way, this is not a replacement for having multiple bgp peers with real 
> connections, don't take it that way.  This is a low cost way to help each 
> other out in worst case scenario for whoever may be in this same position.  
> I'm willing to explore options any way if someone else is interested.  Send 
> me an email, we can discuss further.
>
> Scott Carullo
> Brevard Wireless
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[WISPA] Interesting BGP Redundancy Opton for FREE

[Scott Carullo]

Ok...  I have multiple peers, bgp, etc...  Normal stuff.

I am looking for someone who has MT, has bgp peers but maybe would like to 
have a little more redundancy just in case.  For example our main router 
with both peers is in the same facility so I still currently have some 
single point of failure issues I'd like to resolve.  Bottom line - a plane 
crashes into my facility and I'm off the air for a while.

If you are in this same boat, I have a solution I believe, that won't cost 
either of us hardly anything.  We get a cable connection (or whatever cheap 
business class connection) that is say 20MB down and 2MB up (for example) 
at a remote site in another city where our network spans.  We create a 
tunnel between our routers and if either side main fiber or router goes 
down traffic can be re-routed temporarily via this connection and the 
down-speed would be pulling from the others main fiber feeds so it should 
stil be fast enough to make a lot of the pain go away - better than being 
down any way.  The BGP session between sites would also allow incoming 
traffic for email / web etc to operate as well - which is the only thing 
this solution adds to a non-BGP type backup circuit.  

Any way, this is not a replacement for having multiple bgp peers with real 
connections, don't take it that way.  This is a low cost way to help each 
other out in worst case scenario for whoever may be in this same position.  
I'm willing to explore options any way if someone else is interested.  Send 
me an email, we can discuss further.

Scott Carullo
Brevard Wireless
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Re: [WISPA] Interesting Link...

[Marlon K. Schafer]

This is the most important part of the article.

 "Sure, almost 20 percent of those who use dial-up apparently wouldn't 
choose broadband even if it was offered Sure, almost 20 percent of those who 
use dial-up apparently wouldn't choose broadband even if it was offered"

I'd say that that's probably a conservative estimate.
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[WISPA] Interesting Link...

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[WISPA] Interesting information about Gmail

[Cliff LeBoeuf]

This is an interesting article if you have a gmail account...

http://gmailblog.blogspot.com/2008/03/2-hidden-ways-to-get-more-from-your.ht
ml

Of course you all probably already knew about this trick as I am always the
last to know... :)

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[WISPA] Interesting FCC Testimony

[Dennis Burgess - LinkTechs.net]

http://lessig.org/blog/2008/04/testifying_fcc_stanford.html

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[WISPA] Interesting Broadband Study.

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http://telephonyonline.com/external.html?q=http://gigaom.com/2008/01/16/10-t
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Re: [WISPA] Interesting observation on the $199 Wal-Mart PC

[David E. Smith]

Graham McIntire wrote:

You can also buy just the motherboard used in that PC for $60.  It
also comes with a CD of gOS used on the $199 pc:

http://clubit.com/product_detail.cfm?itemno=A4842001


Then add RAM, a hard drive, a case, power supply, and someone's time to 
assemble the parts and install the OS, and you're pretty close to $199. 
Unless you're building tens of thousands of them like Wal-Mart is, of 
course. :)


In any event, I'm generally skeptical of recommending Linux systems for 
novice end-users. The first time one of your customers goes to Wal-Mart, 
buys "Deer Hunter 2008" (or MS Money, or basically anything else there), 
takes it home, and finds out it doesn't work, they'll be cranky, and 
since you suggested that computer, it's /de facto/ your fault.


If ALL they need is a Web browser and email reader, a cheap Linux box 
would be great for that. Most folks want more than that, though.


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Re: [WISPA] Interesting observation on the $199 Wal-Mart PC

[Graham McIntire]

You can also buy just the motherboard used in that PC for $60.  It
also comes with a CD of gOS used on the $199 pc:

http://clubit.com/product_detail.cfm?itemno=A4842001

Graham

On Dec 6, 2007 5:42 AM, Brian Webster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> There is the option to order it on line and have it shipped.
>
>
>
> Thank You,
> Brian Webster
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Sam Tetherow [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2007 2:06 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Interesting observation on the $199 Wal-Mart PC
>
>
> I have often thought of suggesting a linux box for people that have
> problems with rampant viruses and/or malware, but I've always shied away
> because I really don't want to have to do the support on it.  If it was
> done well, this could be a great suggestion for those people.  Now all I
> need is a Walmart closer than 120 miles away and it might be a real
> viable solution.
>
> Sam Tetherow
> Sandhills Wireless
>
> Brian Webster wrote:
> > I was just reading the on line reviews of the Wal-Mart $199 PC. It comes
> > with Linux and Open Office. While it does not come with a monitor, it
> seems
> > to be a nice value machine. If you go to the web site and read all of the
> > reviews, you will see that this might be a machine to recommend to
> customers
> > who do just basic computing and web browsing. The only reason that I
> mention
> > this, is that for may WISP operators who have a limited number of possible
> > customers, recommending a simple and easy to use computer on their network
> > might be of some use. I was particularly interested to see so many
> comments
> > by older users on how easy the system was to work with. Many had purchased
> > this machine for their older parents or clients and the response was very
> > positive.
> >
> > I don't want to start on OS war or anything like that, just thought this
> > could be an interesting way to increase the customer base and simplify
> > customer support issues and cost for entry level clients. Just another
> tool
> > for the toolbox...
> >
> >
> > Thank You,
> > Brian Webster
> >
> >
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RE: [WISPA] Interesting observation on the $199 Wal-Mart PC

[Brian Webster]

There is the option to order it on line and have it shipped.



Thank You,
Brian Webster

-Original Message-
From: Sam Tetherow [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I have often thought of suggesting a linux box for people that have
problems with rampant viruses and/or malware, but I've always shied away
because I really don't want to have to do the support on it.  If it was
done well, this could be a great suggestion for those people.  Now all I
need is a Walmart closer than 120 miles away and it might be a real
viable solution.

Sam Tetherow
Sandhills Wireless

Brian Webster wrote:
> I was just reading the on line reviews of the Wal-Mart $199 PC. It comes
> with Linux and Open Office. While it does not come with a monitor, it
seems
> to be a nice value machine. If you go to the web site and read all of the
> reviews, you will see that this might be a machine to recommend to
customers
> who do just basic computing and web browsing. The only reason that I
mention
> this, is that for may WISP operators who have a limited number of possible
> customers, recommending a simple and easy to use computer on their network
> might be of some use. I was particularly interested to see so many
comments
> by older users on how easy the system was to work with. Many had purchased
> this machine for their older parents or clients and the response was very
> positive.
>
> I don't want to start on OS war or anything like that, just thought this
> could be an interesting way to increase the customer base and simplify
> customer support issues and cost for entry level clients. Just another
tool
> for the toolbox...
>
>
> Thank You,
> Brian Webster
>
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Re: [WISPA] Interesting observation on the $199 Wal-Mart PC

[Sam Tetherow]

I have often thought of suggesting a linux box for people that have 
problems with rampant viruses and/or malware, but I've always shied away 
because I really don't want to have to do the support on it.  If it was 
done well, this could be a great suggestion for those people.  Now all I 
need is a Walmart closer than 120 miles away and it might be a real 
viable solution.


   Sam Tetherow
   Sandhills Wireless

Brian Webster wrote:

I was just reading the on line reviews of the Wal-Mart $199 PC. It comes
with Linux and Open Office. While it does not come with a monitor, it seems
to be a nice value machine. If you go to the web site and read all of the
reviews, you will see that this might be a machine to recommend to customers
who do just basic computing and web browsing. The only reason that I mention
this, is that for may WISP operators who have a limited number of possible
customers, recommending a simple and easy to use computer on their network
might be of some use. I was particularly interested to see so many comments
by older users on how easy the system was to work with. Many had purchased
this machine for their older parents or clients and the response was very
positive.

I don't want to start on OS war or anything like that, just thought this
could be an interesting way to increase the customer base and simplify
customer support issues and cost for entry level clients. Just another tool
for the toolbox...


Thank You,
Brian Webster




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[WISPA] Interesting observation on the $199 Wal-Mart PC

[Brian Webster]

I was just reading the on line reviews of the Wal-Mart $199 PC. It comes
with Linux and Open Office. While it does not come with a monitor, it seems
to be a nice value machine. If you go to the web site and read all of the
reviews, you will see that this might be a machine to recommend to customers
who do just basic computing and web browsing. The only reason that I mention
this, is that for may WISP operators who have a limited number of possible
customers, recommending a simple and easy to use computer on their network
might be of some use. I was particularly interested to see so many comments
by older users on how easy the system was to work with. Many had purchased
this machine for their older parents or clients and the response was very
positive.

I don't want to start on OS war or anything like that, just thought this
could be an interesting way to increase the customer base and simplify
customer support issues and cost for entry level clients. Just another tool
for the toolbox...


Thank You,
Brian Webster




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Re: [WISPA] Interesting tool.

[Butch Evans]

On Thu, 16 Aug 2007, George Rogato wrote:


http://www.greenlee.com/promotions/summer/cast_in_deal.pdf


having used those in a couple places, I can say they are VERY cool. 
They claim to be able to go 50', but you gotta have a LOT of room 
and GOOD aim to make that happen.


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RE: [WISPA] Interesting tool.

[Mac Dearman]

  We have had one just like that for over a year and it works great - -
sometimes too great! If you are shooting over the top of a drop ceiling and
it hits a metal hanger it will ricochet like a wild man and be 70' in the
wrong direction. It does great shooting under houses and trailers for my
installers as well. We have been very very pleased with these tools.

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[WISPA] Interesting tool.

[George Rogato]

http://www.greenlee.com/promotions/summer/cast_in_deal.pdf

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Re: [WISPA] Interesting RUS info

[Dawn DiPietro]

All,

I decided to dig deeper into the new RUS Proposed Rule changes and think 
this is something we should all read and comment on since this affects 
all of us.


Follow the link for more info on how to comment and read the document in 
question.

http://www.regulations.gov/fdmspublic/component/main?main=DocumentDetail&d=RUS-06-Agency-0052-0001

Regards,
Dawn DiPietro


Look and see who is moving into your community:

 


http://broadbandsearch.sc.egov.usda.gov/SearchTabs.aspx

 


The interesting text is located here:

http://www.usda.gov/rus/telecom/broadband-search.htm

 


"Special Note to Potential Loan Applicants: Potential applicants should note
that Rural Development cannot provide funding to another entity for
communities associated with approved applications and that communities
associated with pending applications are restricted until a lending decision
is reached on the pending application. In addition, Rural Development cannot
provide funding to an additional entity for towns where the Agency has an
active Telecom borrower providing broadband service. For active Telecom
borrowers see: http://www.usda.gov/rus/telecom
 ."

 


This locks me out of getting funding from RUS for towns that have already
been "claimed" by RUS loan applicants.. So much for competition?!

 


Does this lock you out of competition as well?

 


ryan
  


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Re: [WISPA] Interesting RUS info

[Peter R.]

D. Ryan Spott wrote:


The thing that gets me is that the group that has locked up funding in one
of the towns I am in.. and _I_ filled out my FCC form 477! 


ryan
 


Did they NOT fill out the 477?
You CAN petition the RUS administrator.
You can talk to your Congressional rep for help as well.

- Peter

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RE: [WISPA] Interesting RUS info

[D. Ryan Spott]

The thing that gets me is that the group that has locked up funding in one
of the towns I am in.. and _I_ filled out my FCC form 477! 

ryan

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Blake Bowers
Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2007 3:26 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Interesting RUS info

The map is a farce.

There should be some way of dealing with people who
CLAIM to be providing service in an area where they
are not, or who are planning on using a RUS loans to
provide service where there are already providers
with service.

I know during the application process that public notice
was required, but that has been years ago, other services have started up in

areas that still are not being
serviced by RUS loan awardees.


- Original Message - 
From: "D. Ryan Spott" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'WISPA General List'" 
Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2007 12:07 AM
Subject: [WISPA] Interesting RUS info


> Look and see who is moving into your community:
>
>
>
> http://broadbandsearch.sc.egov.usda.gov/SearchTabs.aspx
>
>
>
> The interesting text is located here:
>
> http://www.usda.gov/rus/telecom/broadband-search.htm
>
>
>
> "Special Note to Potential Loan Applicants: Potential applicants should 
> note
> that Rural Development cannot provide funding to another entity for
> communities associated with approved applications and that communities
> associated with pending applications are restricted until a lending 
> decision
> is reached on the pending application. In addition, Rural Development 
> cannot
> provide funding to an additional entity for towns where the Agency has an
> active Telecom borrower providing broadband service. For active Telecom
> borrowers see: http://www.usda.gov/rus/telecom
> <http://www.usda.gov/rus/telecom/index.htm> ."
>
>
>
> This locks me out of getting funding from RUS for towns that have already
> been "claimed" by RUS loan applicants.. So much for competition?!
>
>
>
> Does this lock you out of competition as well?
>
>
>
> ryan
>
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Re: [WISPA] Interesting RUS info

[Blake Bowers]

The map is a farce.

There should be some way of dealing with people who
CLAIM to be providing service in an area where they
are not, or who are planning on using a RUS loans to
provide service where there are already providers
with service.

I know during the application process that public notice
was required, but that has been years ago, other services have started up in 
areas that still are not being

serviced by RUS loan awardees.


- Original Message - 
From: "D. Ryan Spott" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "'WISPA General List'" 
Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2007 12:07 AM
Subject: [WISPA] Interesting RUS info



Look and see who is moving into your community:



http://broadbandsearch.sc.egov.usda.gov/SearchTabs.aspx



The interesting text is located here:

http://www.usda.gov/rus/telecom/broadband-search.htm



"Special Note to Potential Loan Applicants: Potential applicants should 
note

that Rural Development cannot provide funding to another entity for
communities associated with approved applications and that communities
associated with pending applications are restricted until a lending 
decision
is reached on the pending application. In addition, Rural Development 
cannot

provide funding to an additional entity for towns where the Agency has an
active Telecom borrower providing broadband service. For active Telecom
borrowers see: http://www.usda.gov/rus/telecom
<http://www.usda.gov/rus/telecom/index.htm> ."



This locks me out of getting funding from RUS for towns that have already
been "claimed" by RUS loan applicants.. So much for competition?!



Does this lock you out of competition as well?



ryan



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[WISPA] Interesting RUS info

[D. Ryan Spott]

Look and see who is moving into your community:

 

http://broadbandsearch.sc.egov.usda.gov/SearchTabs.aspx

 

The interesting text is located here:

http://www.usda.gov/rus/telecom/broadband-search.htm

 

"Special Note to Potential Loan Applicants: Potential applicants should note
that Rural Development cannot provide funding to another entity for
communities associated with approved applications and that communities
associated with pending applications are restricted until a lending decision
is reached on the pending application. In addition, Rural Development cannot
provide funding to an additional entity for towns where the Agency has an
active Telecom borrower providing broadband service. For active Telecom
borrowers see: http://www.usda.gov/rus/telecom
 ."

 

This locks me out of getting funding from RUS for towns that have already
been "claimed" by RUS loan applicants.. So much for competition?!

 

Does this lock you out of competition as well?

 

ryan

 

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Re: [WISPA] Interesting Call Today

[Alan Cain]

Travis Johnson wrote:
Wow... I got a call today from a lady in "Washington, DC" wanting 
70-80 wireless connections "in our area" for a 3 month project. It was 
just a voicemail that she left, and I don't plan to call her back...




The AT&T rep told our saleperson that he was looking for temporary (2 
day
service) to various locations that do not have access to cable/DSL or 
fiber.
They need these connections for conference call meetings and will 
need our
company to set up a wireless router at the location as well.  He 
needs these
connections done in as short as a 3-4 day window. 
 

Has anyone else had similar calls?  Not sure if they are just fishing 
for
information or what. 
 
 

Yes, I did. they emailed me. I quote:
"
We are interested in high speed internet on temporary basis like 1-2 
days for approx 70-100 users in the areas you are already established 
and serving.  The services would be used by government folks.   We will 
be ready to use the services later in 2007 and most of 2008.
Please let me know a contact name and number with email address so we 
can discuss this further.

Thank you

" or end quote.

They responded to my reply as well.
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Re: [WISPA] Interesting Call Today

[RickG]

I dont know about AT&T but UPS is seeking "Broadband Backup" at all
their locations. I've already received their official packet from
their headquarters and mailed it back. This is my third "national"
company wanting backup to their T1's. A trend that I hope continues ;)

-RickG

On 4/18/07, Smith, Rick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


I've gotten calls from both UPS and AT&T, and it seems like they might
be in bed together for some logistics ratchet-up coming soon to the
supply chain industry.

AT&T wasn't looking for providers for temporary service... they were
looking for permanent contracted links for redundancy - and they stated
that they were intentionally side-stepping the local ilecs.  Their
service would be the primary and they prefer a WISP connection as the
backup.

I'll get my sales guy to try to get more details...

Seems legit tho - unless they're just mapping out our coverage areas for
their "own use"  :)

R


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There's been quite a bit of talk about AT&T wireless links on the p-15
list.
Looks legit.

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From: "Travis Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 11:14 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Interesting Call Today


> Wow... I got a call today from a lady in "Washington, DC" wanting
70-80
> wireless connections "in our area" for a 3 month project. It was just
a
> voicemail that she left, and I don't plan to call her back...
>
> Travis
> Microserv
>
> Rick Harnish wrote:
>> One of our salespeople got a call today from AT&T that I feel I must
>> share
>> and see if others are getting similar calls.
>>
>>
>> The AT&T rep told our saleperson that he was looking for temporary (2
day
>> service) to various locations that do not have access to cable/DSL or

>> fiber.
>> They need these connections for conference call meetings and will
need
>> our
>> company to set up a wireless router at the location as well.  He
needs
>> these
>> connections done in as short as a 3-4 day window.
>>
>> Has anyone else had similar calls?  Not sure if they are just fishing
for
>> information or what.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>>
>> Rick Harnish
>>
>> President
>>
>> OnlyInternet Broadband & Wireless, Inc.
>>
>> 260-827-2482
>>
>> Founding Member of WISPA
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [WISPA] Interesting Call Today

[ralphlists]

The interval on the last 50 T1s I ordered was 45 days each. And this was
regardless of where in the country it was!

Ralph

> Why is AT&T ordering wireless links? They can put a T1 anywhere they
> want. I don't get it. I would certainly be suspect of that also.
> Scriv
>
>
> Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote:
>
>> There's been quite a bit of talk about AT&T wireless links on the p-15
>> list. Looks legit.
>>
>> Marlon
>> (509) 982-2181
>> (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services
>> 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since
>> 1999!
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam
>>
>>
>>
>> - Original Message - From: "Travis Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "WISPA General List" 
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 11:14 AM
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Interesting Call Today
>>
>>
>>> Wow... I got a call today from a lady in "Washington, DC" wanting
>>> 70-80 wireless connections "in our area" for a 3 month project. It
>>> was just a voicemail that she left, and I don't plan to call her
>>> back...
>>>
>>> Travis
>>> Microserv
>>>
>>> Rick Harnish wrote:
>>>
>>>> One of our salespeople got a call today from AT&T that I feel I must
>>>> share
>>>> and see if others are getting similar calls.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The AT&T rep told our saleperson that he was looking for temporary
>>>> (2 day
>>>> service) to various locations that do not have access to cable/DSL
>>>> or fiber.
>>>> They need these connections for conference call meetings and will
>>>> need our
>>>> company to set up a wireless router at the location as well.  He
>>>> needs these
>>>> connections done in as short as a 3-4 day window.
>>>>
>>>> Has anyone else had similar calls?  Not sure if they are just
>>>> fishing for
>>>> information or what.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Rick Harnish
>>>>
>>>> President
>>>>
>>>> OnlyInternet Broadband & Wireless, Inc.
>>>>
>>>> 260-827-2482
>>>>
>>>> Founding Member of WISPA
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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Re: [WISPA] Interesting Call Today

[JohnnyO]

They are fishing for info - I've had 3 calls at different periods during
the past 6 months of exactly the same you've experienced.

JohnnyO
ps - they were also very interested in what area we had coverage in


On Wed, 2007-04-18 at 14:06 -0400, Rick Harnish wrote:
> One of our salespeople got a call today from AT&T that I feel I must share
> and see if others are getting similar calls.
> 
>  
> 
> The AT&T rep told our saleperson that he was looking for temporary (2 day
> service) to various locations that do not have access to cable/DSL or fiber.
> They need these connections for conference call meetings and will need our
> company to set up a wireless router at the location as well.  He needs these
> connections done in as short as a 3-4 day window.  
> 
>  
> 
> Has anyone else had similar calls?  Not sure if they are just fishing for
> information or what.  
> 
>  
> 
> Thanks,
> 
>  
> 
> Rick Harnish
> 
> President
> 
> OnlyInternet Broadband & Wireless, Inc.
> 
> 260-827-2482
> 
> Founding Member of WISPA
> 
>  
> 

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RE: [WISPA] Interesting Call Today

[Rick Harnish]

Maybe the "Race of 2008" is beginning to hit full steam ahead.

Rick Harnish
President
OnlyInternet Broadband & Wireless, Inc.
260-827-2482
Founding Member of WISPA

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Matt Liotta
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 4:01 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Interesting Call Today

We have provided these services to AT&T before. Generally, they are 
either for Whitehouse or some other political events in the area. Our 
installers enjoyed having the Secret Service at their hip the whole time.

-Matt

Rick Harnish wrote:
> One of our salespeople got a call today from AT&T that I feel I must share
> and see if others are getting similar calls.
>
>  
>
> The AT&T rep told our saleperson that he was looking for temporary (2 day
> service) to various locations that do not have access to cable/DSL or
fiber.
> They need these connections for conference call meetings and will need our
> company to set up a wireless router at the location as well.  He needs
these
> connections done in as short as a 3-4 day window.  
>
>  
>
> Has anyone else had similar calls?  Not sure if they are just fishing for
> information or what.  
>
>  
>
> Thanks,
>
>  
>
> Rick Harnish
>
> President
>
> OnlyInternet Broadband & Wireless, Inc.
>
> 260-827-2482
>
> Founding Member of WISPA
>
>  
>
>   

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Re: [WISPA] Interesting Call Today

[Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181]

My understanding is that they are usually backups for a t-1 link.

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- Original Message - 
From: "John Scrivner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 11:36 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Interesting Call Today


Why is AT&T ordering wireless links? They can put a T1 anywhere they want. 
I don't get it. I would certainly be suspect of that also.

Scriv


Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote:

There's been quite a bit of talk about AT&T wireless links on the p-15 
list. Looks legit.


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- Original Message - From: "Travis Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 11:14 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Interesting Call Today


Wow... I got a call today from a lady in "Washington, DC" wanting 70-80 
wireless connections "in our area" for a 3 month project. It was just a 
voicemail that she left, and I don't plan to call her back...


Travis
Microserv

Rick Harnish wrote:

One of our salespeople got a call today from AT&T that I feel I must 
share

and see if others are getting similar calls.


The AT&T rep told our saleperson that he was looking for temporary (2 
day
service) to various locations that do not have access to cable/DSL or 
fiber.
They need these connections for conference call meetings and will need 
our
company to set up a wireless router at the location as well.  He needs 
these

connections done in as short as a 3-4 day window.

Has anyone else had similar calls?  Not sure if they are just fishing 
for

information or what.

Thanks,


Rick Harnish

President

OnlyInternet Broadband & Wireless, Inc.

260-827-2482

Founding Member of WISPA




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Re: [WISPA] Interesting Call Today

[Doug Ratcliffe]

Add me to the list also.

Interesting.

- Original Message - 
From: "Rick Harnish" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'WISPA General List'" 
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 2:06 PM
Subject: [WISPA] Interesting Call Today


> One of our salespeople got a call today from AT&T that I feel I must share
> and see if others are getting similar calls.
>
>
>
> The AT&T rep told our saleperson that he was looking for temporary (2 day
> service) to various locations that do not have access to cable/DSL or
fiber.
> They need these connections for conference call meetings and will need our
> company to set up a wireless router at the location as well.  He needs
these
> connections done in as short as a 3-4 day window.
>
>
>
> Has anyone else had similar calls?  Not sure if they are just fishing for
> information or what.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Rick Harnish
>
> President
>
> OnlyInternet Broadband & Wireless, Inc.
>
> 260-827-2482
>
> Founding Member of WISPA
>
>
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Re: [WISPA] Interesting Call Today

[Matt Liotta]

We have provided these services to AT&T before. Generally, they are 
either for Whitehouse or some other political events in the area. Our 
installers enjoyed having the Secret Service at their hip the whole time.


-Matt

Rick Harnish wrote:

One of our salespeople got a call today from AT&T that I feel I must share
and see if others are getting similar calls.

 


The AT&T rep told our saleperson that he was looking for temporary (2 day
service) to various locations that do not have access to cable/DSL or fiber.
They need these connections for conference call meetings and will need our
company to set up a wireless router at the location as well.  He needs these
connections done in as short as a 3-4 day window.  

 


Has anyone else had similar calls?  Not sure if they are just fishing for
information or what.  

 


Thanks,

 


Rick Harnish

President

OnlyInternet Broadband & Wireless, Inc.

260-827-2482

Founding Member of WISPA

 

  


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RE: [WISPA] Interesting Call Today

[Smith, Rick]

Not to mention cost... most people balking these days at paying $350
just for a pair of copper to run a T-1 on, when AT&T charges another
$150 / month for the bandwidth... 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Mike Bushard, Jr
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 2:52 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Interesting Call Today

T-1's take time to provision, wireless is much faster in most cases.

Mike Bushard, Jr
Wisper Wireless Solutions, LLC
320-256-WISP (9477)
320-256-9478 Fax
 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of John Scrivner
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 1:36 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Interesting Call Today

Why is AT&T ordering wireless links? They can put a T1 anywhere they
want. I don't get it. I would certainly be suspect of that also.
Scriv


Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote:

> There's been quite a bit of talk about AT&T wireless links on the p-15

> list. Looks legit.
>
> Marlon
> (509) 982-2181
> (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services
> 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 
> 1999!
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> www.odessaoffice.com/wireless
> www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam
>
>
>
> - Original Message - From: "Travis Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "WISPA General List" 
> Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 11:14 AM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Interesting Call Today
>
>
>> Wow... I got a call today from a lady in "Washington, DC" wanting 
>> 70-80 wireless connections "in our area" for a 3 month project. It 
>> was just a voicemail that she left, and I don't plan to call her
back...
>>
>> Travis
>> Microserv
>>
>> Rick Harnish wrote:
>>
>>> One of our salespeople got a call today from AT&T that I feel I must

>>> share
>>> and see if others are getting similar calls.
>>>
>>>
>>> The AT&T rep told our saleperson that he was looking for temporary 
>>> (2 day
>>> service) to various locations that do not have access to cable/DSL 
>>> or fiber.
>>> They need these connections for conference call meetings and will 
>>> need our
>>> company to set up a wireless router at the location as well.  He 
>>> needs these
>>> connections done in as short as a 3-4 day window.
>>>
>>> Has anyone else had similar calls?  Not sure if they are just 
>>> fishing for
>>> information or what.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>>
>>> Rick Harnish
>>>
>>> President
>>>
>>> OnlyInternet Broadband & Wireless, Inc.
>>>
>>> 260-827-2482
>>>
>>> Founding Member of WISPA
>>>
>>>
>>>
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RE: [WISPA] Interesting Call Today

[Smith, Rick]

I've gotten calls from both UPS and AT&T, and it seems like they might
be in bed together for some logistics ratchet-up coming soon to the
supply chain industry.

AT&T wasn't looking for providers for temporary service... they were
looking for permanent contracted links for redundancy - and they stated
that they were intentionally side-stepping the local ilecs.  Their
service would be the primary and they prefer a WISP connection as the
backup.

I'll get my sales guy to try to get more details...

Seems legit tho - unless they're just mapping out our coverage areas for
their "own use"  :)

R


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 2:35 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Interesting Call Today

There's been quite a bit of talk about AT&T wireless links on the p-15
list. 
Looks legit.

Marlon
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- Original Message -
From: "Travis Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 11:14 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Interesting Call Today


> Wow... I got a call today from a lady in "Washington, DC" wanting
70-80 
> wireless connections "in our area" for a 3 month project. It was just
a 
> voicemail that she left, and I don't plan to call her back...
>
> Travis
> Microserv
>
> Rick Harnish wrote:
>> One of our salespeople got a call today from AT&T that I feel I must 
>> share
>> and see if others are getting similar calls.
>>
>>
>> The AT&T rep told our saleperson that he was looking for temporary (2
day
>> service) to various locations that do not have access to cable/DSL or

>> fiber.
>> They need these connections for conference call meetings and will
need 
>> our
>> company to set up a wireless router at the location as well.  He
needs 
>> these
>> connections done in as short as a 3-4 day window.
>>
>> Has anyone else had similar calls?  Not sure if they are just fishing
for
>> information or what.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>>
>> Rick Harnish
>>
>> President
>>
>> OnlyInternet Broadband & Wireless, Inc.
>>
>> 260-827-2482
>>
>> Founding Member of WISPA
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [WISPA] Interesting Call Today

[Peter R.]

Sounds like BS.
AT&T has those other wireless thingies... um, oh, yeah, cellular phones 
and HSPIA cards.


Rick Harnish wrote:


One of our salespeople got a call today from AT&T that I feel I must share
and see if others are getting similar calls.



The AT&T rep told our saleperson that he was looking for temporary (2 day
service) to various locations that do not have access to cable/DSL or fiber.
They need these connections for conference call meetings and will need our
company to set up a wireless router at the location as well.  He needs these
connections done in as short as a 3-4 day window.  




Has anyone else had similar calls?  Not sure if they are just fishing for
information or what.  




Thanks,



Rick Harnish

President

OnlyInternet Broadband & Wireless, Inc.

260-827-2482

Founding Member of WISPA
 



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Re: [WISPA] Interesting Call Today

[Ryan Langseth]

Probably because they don't want to have to deal with their own
connection/disconnection departments. ;) (just kidding, sort of)

Ryan
On Wed, 2007-04-18 at 13:36 -0500, John Scrivner wrote:
> Why is AT&T ordering wireless links? They can put a T1 anywhere they 
> want. I don't get it. I would certainly be suspect of that also.
> Scriv
> 
> 
> Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote:
> 
> > There's been quite a bit of talk about AT&T wireless links on the p-15 
> > list. Looks legit.
> >
> > Marlon
> > (509) 982-2181
> > (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services
> > 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 
> > 1999!
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > www.odessaoffice.com/wireless
> > www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam
> >
> >
> >
> > - Original Message - From: "Travis Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "WISPA General List" 
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 11:14 AM
> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Interesting Call Today
> >
> >
> >> Wow... I got a call today from a lady in "Washington, DC" wanting 
> >> 70-80 wireless connections "in our area" for a 3 month project. It 
> >> was just a voicemail that she left, and I don't plan to call her back...
> >>
> >> Travis
> >> Microserv
> >>
> >> Rick Harnish wrote:
> >>
> >>> One of our salespeople got a call today from AT&T that I feel I must 
> >>> share
> >>> and see if others are getting similar calls.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> The AT&T rep told our saleperson that he was looking for temporary 
> >>> (2 day
> >>> service) to various locations that do not have access to cable/DSL 
> >>> or fiber.
> >>> They need these connections for conference call meetings and will 
> >>> need our
> >>> company to set up a wireless router at the location as well.  He 
> >>> needs these
> >>> connections done in as short as a 3-4 day window.
> >>>
> >>> Has anyone else had similar calls?  Not sure if they are just 
> >>> fishing for
> >>> information or what.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Rick Harnish
> >>>
> >>> President
> >>>
> >>> OnlyInternet Broadband & Wireless, Inc.
> >>>
> >>> 260-827-2482
> >>>
> >>> Founding Member of WISPA
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
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Re: [WISPA] Interesting Call Today

[Dylan Oliver]

I was surprised to get the same call yesterday.

I must say that I was not impressed by the phone skills of the person they
had call me. I

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RE: [WISPA] Interesting Call Today

[Mike Bushard, Jr]

T-1's take time to provision, wireless is much faster in most cases.

Mike Bushard, Jr
Wisper Wireless Solutions, LLC
320-256-WISP (9477)
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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of John Scrivner
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 1:36 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Interesting Call Today

Why is AT&T ordering wireless links? They can put a T1 anywhere they 
want. I don't get it. I would certainly be suspect of that also.
Scriv


Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote:

> There's been quite a bit of talk about AT&T wireless links on the p-15 
> list. Looks legit.
>
> Marlon
> (509) 982-2181
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> - Original Message - From: "Travis Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "WISPA General List" 
> Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 11:14 AM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Interesting Call Today
>
>
>> Wow... I got a call today from a lady in "Washington, DC" wanting 
>> 70-80 wireless connections "in our area" for a 3 month project. It 
>> was just a voicemail that she left, and I don't plan to call her back...
>>
>> Travis
>> Microserv
>>
>> Rick Harnish wrote:
>>
>>> One of our salespeople got a call today from AT&T that I feel I must 
>>> share
>>> and see if others are getting similar calls.
>>>
>>>
>>> The AT&T rep told our saleperson that he was looking for temporary 
>>> (2 day
>>> service) to various locations that do not have access to cable/DSL 
>>> or fiber.
>>> They need these connections for conference call meetings and will 
>>> need our
>>> company to set up a wireless router at the location as well.  He 
>>> needs these
>>> connections done in as short as a 3-4 day window.
>>>
>>> Has anyone else had similar calls?  Not sure if they are just 
>>> fishing for
>>> information or what.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>>
>>> Rick Harnish
>>>
>>> President
>>>
>>> OnlyInternet Broadband & Wireless, Inc.
>>>
>>> 260-827-2482
>>>
>>> Founding Member of WISPA
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: [WISPA] Interesting Call Today

[John Scrivner]

Why is AT&T ordering wireless links? They can put a T1 anywhere they 
want. I don't get it. I would certainly be suspect of that also.

Scriv


Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote:

There's been quite a bit of talk about AT&T wireless links on the p-15 
list. Looks legit.


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- Original Message - From: "Travis Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 11:14 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Interesting Call Today


Wow... I got a call today from a lady in "Washington, DC" wanting 
70-80 wireless connections "in our area" for a 3 month project. It 
was just a voicemail that she left, and I don't plan to call her back...


Travis
Microserv

Rick Harnish wrote:

One of our salespeople got a call today from AT&T that I feel I must 
share

and see if others are getting similar calls.


The AT&T rep told our saleperson that he was looking for temporary 
(2 day
service) to various locations that do not have access to cable/DSL 
or fiber.
They need these connections for conference call meetings and will 
need our
company to set up a wireless router at the location as well.  He 
needs these

connections done in as short as a 3-4 day window.

Has anyone else had similar calls?  Not sure if they are just 
fishing for

information or what.

Thanks,


Rick Harnish

President

OnlyInternet Broadband & Wireless, Inc.

260-827-2482

Founding Member of WISPA




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Re: [WISPA] Interesting Call Today

[Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181]

Bullit is servicing one of their offices.  A couple others were too as I 
recall the conversations on the p15 list.


My impression is that this is legit.  They are accepting this as a viable 
alternative to leased lines or cable/dsl.  And those services all take a 
long time to set up and require contracts.  Most wisps will do short term 
"event" type connections that the others won't.


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- Original Message - 
From: "Mark Koskenmaki" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 11:17 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Interesting Call Today



I read about a couple of other people getting similar...errr..all but
identical calls on an online forum somewhere, I think it was 
dslreports

maybe?

This makes like the 5th time I've seen this kind of posting, but as of 
yet,

nobody has stated they provided any services, it was always just a request
that appeared to be evaluating the viability of a  conference site.

Mark


- Original Message - 
From: "Rick Harnish" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "'WISPA General List'" 
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 11:06 AM
Subject: [WISPA] Interesting Call Today


One of our salespeople got a call today from AT&T that I feel I must 
share

and see if others are getting similar calls.



The AT&T rep told our saleperson that he was looking for temporary (2 day
service) to various locations that do not have access to cable/DSL or

fiber.
They need these connections for conference call meetings and will need 
our

company to set up a wireless router at the location as well.  He needs

these

connections done in as short as a 3-4 day window.



Has anyone else had similar calls?  Not sure if they are just fishing for
information or what.



Thanks,



Rick Harnish

President

OnlyInternet Broadband & Wireless, Inc.

260-827-2482

Founding Member of WISPA



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Re: [WISPA] Interesting Call Today

[Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181]

There's been quite a bit of talk about AT&T wireless links on the p-15 list. 
Looks legit.


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- Original Message - 
From: "Travis Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 11:14 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Interesting Call Today


Wow... I got a call today from a lady in "Washington, DC" wanting 70-80 
wireless connections "in our area" for a 3 month project. It was just a 
voicemail that she left, and I don't plan to call her back...


Travis
Microserv

Rick Harnish wrote:
One of our salespeople got a call today from AT&T that I feel I must 
share

and see if others are getting similar calls.


The AT&T rep told our saleperson that he was looking for temporary (2 day
service) to various locations that do not have access to cable/DSL or 
fiber.
They need these connections for conference call meetings and will need 
our
company to set up a wireless router at the location as well.  He needs 
these

connections done in as short as a 3-4 day window.

Has anyone else had similar calls?  Not sure if they are just fishing for
information or what.

Thanks,


Rick Harnish

President

OnlyInternet Broadband & Wireless, Inc.

260-827-2482

Founding Member of WISPA




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Re: [WISPA] Interesting Call Today

[Mark Koskenmaki]

I read about a couple of other people getting similar...errr..all but
identical calls on an online forum somewhere, I think it was dslreports
maybe?

This makes like the 5th time I've seen this kind of posting, but as of yet,
nobody has stated they provided any services, it was always just a request
that appeared to be evaluating the viability of a  conference site.

Mark


- Original Message - 
From: "Rick Harnish" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'WISPA General List'" 
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 11:06 AM
Subject: [WISPA] Interesting Call Today


> One of our salespeople got a call today from AT&T that I feel I must share
> and see if others are getting similar calls.
>
>
>
> The AT&T rep told our saleperson that he was looking for temporary (2 day
> service) to various locations that do not have access to cable/DSL or
fiber.
> They need these connections for conference call meetings and will need our
> company to set up a wireless router at the location as well.  He needs
these
> connections done in as short as a 3-4 day window.
>
>
>
> Has anyone else had similar calls?  Not sure if they are just fishing for
> information or what.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Rick Harnish
>
> President
>
> OnlyInternet Broadband & Wireless, Inc.
>
> 260-827-2482
>
> Founding Member of WISPA
>
>
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Re: [WISPA] Interesting Call Today

[Joe Laura]

Ill give you a call. I think I know what thats for. 3-4 day window.
Superior Wireless
New Orleans,La.
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- Original Message -
From: "Rick Harnish" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'WISPA General List'" 
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 1:06 PM
Subject: [WISPA] Interesting Call Today


> One of our salespeople got a call today from AT&T that I feel I must share
> and see if others are getting similar calls.
>
>
>
> The AT&T rep told our saleperson that he was looking for temporary (2 day
> service) to various locations that do not have access to cable/DSL or
fiber.
> They need these connections for conference call meetings and will need our
> company to set up a wireless router at the location as well.  He needs
these
> connections done in as short as a 3-4 day window.
>
>
>
> Has anyone else had similar calls?  Not sure if they are just fishing for
> information or what.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Rick Harnish
>
> President
>
> OnlyInternet Broadband & Wireless, Inc.
>
> 260-827-2482
>
> Founding Member of WISPA
>
>
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Re: [WISPA] Interesting Call Today

[Travis Johnson]

Wow... I got a call today from a lady in "Washington, DC" wanting 70-80 
wireless connections "in our area" for a 3 month project. It was just a 
voicemail that she left, and I don't plan to call her back...


Travis
Microserv

Rick Harnish wrote:

One of our salespeople got a call today from AT&T that I feel I must share
and see if others are getting similar calls.

 


The AT&T rep told our saleperson that he was looking for temporary (2 day
service) to various locations that do not have access to cable/DSL or fiber.
They need these connections for conference call meetings and will need our
company to set up a wireless router at the location as well.  He needs these
connections done in as short as a 3-4 day window.  

 


Has anyone else had similar calls?  Not sure if they are just fishing for
information or what.  

 


Thanks,

 


Rick Harnish

President

OnlyInternet Broadband & Wireless, Inc.

260-827-2482

Founding Member of WISPA

 

  

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[WISPA] Interesting Call Today

[Rick Harnish]

One of our salespeople got a call today from AT&T that I feel I must share
and see if others are getting similar calls.

 

The AT&T rep told our saleperson that he was looking for temporary (2 day
service) to various locations that do not have access to cable/DSL or fiber.
They need these connections for conference call meetings and will need our
company to set up a wireless router at the location as well.  He needs these
connections done in as short as a 3-4 day window.  

 

Has anyone else had similar calls?  Not sure if they are just fishing for
information or what.  

 

Thanks,

 

Rick Harnish

President

OnlyInternet Broadband & Wireless, Inc.

260-827-2482

Founding Member of WISPA

 

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[WISPA] Interesting Port Lister I found by chance...

[Rick Smith]

In searching for what could be using GIGs of traffic on port 1212-1215, 
(prolly kazaa), I found

this link, which I'm bookmarking...

http://www.bekkoame.ne.jp/~s_ita/port/port1-99.html

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[WISPA] Interesting Map!

[Cliff]

I hope that this sight on the net can give you an idea of how bad things
were and are in New Orleans.

http://mapper.cctechnol.com/floodmap.php

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Re: [WISPA] Interesting reading for all.

[Brian Rohrbacher]

More like boring.. :)  But good stuff to be aware of.

George wrote:


http://www.oregonfast.net/gofast/Telecom/072705_telecom_bill.pdf


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[WISPA] Interesting reading for all.

[George]

http://www.oregonfast.net/gofast/Telecom/072705_telecom_bill.pdf
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