Re: [WISPA] Mesh just for kicks

2009-02-19 Thread Matt Hardy
/wiki/MME_wireless_routing_protocol John -Original Message- From: Scottie Arnett [mailto:sarn...@info-ed.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 09:34 PM To: e...@wisp-router.com, 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mesh just for kicks Too give credit where credit is due

Re: [WISPA] Mesh just for kicks

2009-02-19 Thread Drew Lentz
, 2009 09:34 PM To: e...@wisp-router.com, 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mesh just for kicks Too give credit where credit is due...did not a university do this to begin with that worked really well...and all other versions are built on it? Scottie -- Original Message

Re: [WISPA] Mesh just for kicks

2009-02-19 Thread Scottie Arnett
://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/MME_wireless_routing_protocol John -Original Message- From: Scottie Arnett [mailto:sarn...@info-ed.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 09:34 PM To: e...@wisp-router.com, 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mesh just for kicks Too give credit

Re: [WISPA] Mesh just for kicks

2009-02-18 Thread Paul Kralovec
...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 8:54 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mesh just for kicks There are pluses minuses to each platform (Mikrotik StarOS), but if you want simple, StarOS is it. -RickG On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 5:20 PM, Matt Larsen - Lists li

Re: [WISPA] Mesh just for kicks

2009-02-18 Thread John J. Thomas
Some MME info http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/MME_wireless_routing_protocol John -Original Message- From: Scottie Arnett [mailto:sarn...@info-ed.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 09:34 PM To: e...@wisp-router.com, 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mesh just for kicks Too give

Re: [WISPA] Mesh just for kicks

2009-02-18 Thread Scottie Arnett
, February 17, 2009 09:34 PM To: e...@wisp-router.com, 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mesh just for kicks Too give credit where credit is due...did not a university do this to begin with that worked really well...and all other versions are built on it? Scottie -- Original Message

Re: [WISPA] Mesh just for kicks

2009-02-17 Thread Charles Wu
info on Open Mesh http://www.open-mesh.com/store/ -Charles -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Scott Vander Dussen Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 11:13 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Mesh just for kicks Looking

Re: [WISPA] Mesh just for kicks

2009-02-17 Thread Dennis Burgess
-Mobile -Original Message- From: Scott Vander Dussen sc...@velociter.net Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 21:13:03 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Mesh just for kicks Looking to deploy a small mesh network downtown in a small city just for kicks. Low budget ($4k

Re: [WISPA] Mesh just for kicks

2009-02-17 Thread os10rules
: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 21:13:03 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Mesh just for kicks Looking to deploy a small mesh network downtown in a small city just for kicks. Low budget ($4k for ~10 nodes) - just want to get my feet wet and have some fun. I'd charge

Re: [WISPA] Mesh just for kicks

2009-02-17 Thread David E. Smith
os10ru...@gmail.com wrote: What frightens me about taking the leap into Mikrotik is it appears the web interface is of no use in the advanced configuration and it sounds like one must get heavily into the CLI and scripting. I don't see an online repository of scripts for

Re: [WISPA] Mesh just for kicks

2009-02-17 Thread eje
-Original Message- From: os10ru...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 10:38:04 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mesh just for kicks Mr. Burgess, What frightens me about taking the leap into Mikrotik is it appears the web interface is of no use

Re: [WISPA] Mesh just for kicks

2009-02-17 Thread Dennis Burgess
: MT and a consultant ;) /me laughing while running for cover Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: Scott Vander Dussen sc...@velociter.net Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 21:13:03 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Mesh just for kicks

Re: [WISPA] Mesh just for kicks

2009-02-17 Thread Dennis Burgess
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mesh just for kicks Mr. Burgess, What frightens me about taking the leap into Mikrotik is it appears the web interface is of no use in the advanced configuration and it sounds like one must get heavily into the CLI and scripting. I don't see an online repository

Re: [WISPA] Mesh just for kicks

2009-02-17 Thread os10rules
...@wisp-router.com wrote: MT and a consultant ;) /me laughing while running for cover Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: Scott Vander Dussen sc...@velociter.net Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 21:13:03 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Mesh

Re: [WISPA] Mesh just for kicks

2009-02-17 Thread Harold Bledsoe
and there is certainly a place for each one. Just be sure you know what you are getting! -Hal -Original Message- From: os10ru...@gmail.com Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mesh just for kicks Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 10:38:04 -0430

Re: [WISPA] Mesh just for kicks

2009-02-17 Thread Scott Vander Dussen
**sigh** So anyhow, about my chest hair.. `S -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of os10ru...@gmail.com Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 7:49 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mesh just for kicks Mr. Burgess

Re: [WISPA] Mesh just for kicks

2009-02-17 Thread Scott Vander Dussen
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jerry Richardson Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 10:08 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mesh just for kicks I just went through this exercise - spent hours looking at various options. Deliberant and Engenius are the two options I arrived

Re: [WISPA] Mesh just for kicks

2009-02-17 Thread os10rules
are getting! -Hal -Original Message- From: os10ru...@gmail.com Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mesh just for kicks Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 10:38:04 -0430 Mr. Burgess, What frightens me about taking

Re: [WISPA] Mesh just for kicks

2009-02-17 Thread Jack Unger
u...@gmail.com Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mesh just for kicks Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 10:38:04 -0430 Mr. Burgess, What frightens me about taking the leap into Mikrotik is it appears the web interface is of no use

Re: [WISPA] Mesh just for kicks

2009-02-17 Thread eje
Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mesh just for kicks Mr. Bledsoe, I've heard it said that WDS isn't the best option for mesh because under WDS each AP is going to repeat every packet regardless of the physical location and whether or not the data needs to pass that AP in order

Re: [WISPA] Mesh just for kicks

2009-02-17 Thread eje
General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mesh just for kicks Well there is also the mesh part too. Is this what you guys are talking about when you say MT mesh: http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Mesh_wds If so, I would disagree that this is a good mesh implementation. There are many, many

Re: [WISPA] Mesh just for kicks

2009-02-17 Thread Harold Bledsoe
). That's my take on it. -Hal -Original Message- From: os10ru...@gmail.com Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mesh just for kicks Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 11:40:46 -0430 Mr. Bledsoe, I've heard it said

Re: [WISPA] Mesh just for kicks

2009-02-17 Thread Harold Bledsoe
Or ice cream. :) -Original Message- From: Jack Unger jun...@ask-wi.com Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mesh just for kicks Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 08:27:59 -0800 I think you are making the point that mesh

Re: [WISPA] Mesh just for kicks

2009-02-17 Thread Dennis Burgess
: [WISPA] Mesh just for kicks Well there is also the mesh part too. Is this what you guys are talking about when you say MT mesh: http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Mesh_wds If so, I would disagree that this is a good mesh implementation. There are many, many more factors to consider when building

Re: [WISPA] Mesh just for kicks

2009-02-17 Thread Dennis Burgess
@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mesh just for kicks Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 08:27:59 -0800 I think you are making the point that mesh is a very broad term; it's like happiness - there are many flavors... Harold Bledsoe wrote: Well there is also the mesh part too. Is this what you guys

Re: [WISPA] Mesh just for kicks

2009-02-17 Thread Scott Vander Dussen
@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mesh just for kicks Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 08:27:59 -0800 I think you are making the point that mesh is a very broad term; it's like happiness - there are many flavors... Harold Bledsoe wrote: Well there is also the mesh part too. Is this what you guys

Re: [WISPA] Mesh just for kicks

2009-02-17 Thread John J. Thomas
-Mobile -Original Message- From: os10ru...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 10:38:04 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mesh just for kicks Mr. Burgess, What frightens me about taking the leap into Mikrotik is it appears the web interface is of no use

Re: [WISPA] Mesh just for kicks

2009-02-17 Thread eje
I first started using it almost hmm 7 years ago. /Eje Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: John J. Thomas jtho...@quarnet.com Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 18:36:31 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mesh just for kicks You DO NOT have to use

Re: [WISPA] Mesh just for kicks

2009-02-17 Thread Matt Larsen - Lists
Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Mesh just for kicks Looking to deploy a small mesh network downtown in a small city just for kicks. Low budget ($4k for ~10 nodes) - just want to get my feet wet and have some fun. I'd charge for the service if it was easy enough to do and it worked good

Re: [WISPA] Mesh just for kicks

2009-02-17 Thread os10rules
] Mesh just for kicks Looking to deploy a small mesh network downtown in a small city just for kicks. Low budget ($4k for ~10 nodes) - just want to get my feet wet and have some fun. I'd charge for the service if it was easy enough to do and it worked good enough to justify a cost, otherwise

Re: [WISPA] Mesh just for kicks

2009-02-17 Thread Jerry Richardson
Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Scott Vander Dussen Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 7:58 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mesh just for kicks Jerry- Thanks - is the Engenius product no longer supported? I couldn't find

Re: [WISPA] Mesh just for kicks

2009-02-17 Thread RickG
-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Dennis Burgess Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 9:26 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mesh just for kicks hmmm. ice cream * --- Dennis Burgess, CCNA

Re: [WISPA] Mesh just for kicks

2009-02-17 Thread RickG
-Mobile -Original Message- From: Scott Vander Dussen sc...@velociter.net Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 21:13:03 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Mesh just for kicks Looking to deploy a small mesh network downtown in a small city just for kicks. Low budget ($4k

Re: [WISPA] Mesh just for kicks

2009-02-17 Thread Scottie Arnett
Well said David. I learned of Mikrotik about 3 years ago. There is so much, that I am still learning. It is very useful for many things, more than I care to mention, for sure when it is many less than any other solution that can do what it does that it is available in the USA. Keep in mind

Re: [WISPA] Mesh just for kicks

2009-02-17 Thread Scottie Arnett
] Mesh just for kicks Mr. Burgess and the others who responded - thanks! I just downloaded Winbox and I'll be trying it with the x86 version on an old PC first. Mikrotik seems inevitable if one's network progresses beyond the something very small and simple. Thanks for the push! Greg On Feb 17

Re: [WISPA] Mesh just for kicks

2009-02-17 Thread Scottie Arnett
users. Seems like you'd get a ghetto mesh for ~130/node. Thanks, `S -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jerry Richardson Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 10:08 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mesh just

Re: [WISPA] Mesh just for kicks

2009-02-17 Thread Scottie Arnett
...@deliberant.net Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 10:52:39 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mesh just for kicks Well there is also the mesh part too. Is this what you guys are talking about when you say MT mesh: http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Mesh_wds If so, I would disagree

[WISPA] Mesh just for kicks

2009-02-16 Thread Scott Vander Dussen
Looking to deploy a small mesh network downtown in a small city just for kicks. Low budget ($4k for ~10 nodes) - just want to get my feet wet and have some fun. I'd charge for the service if it was easy enough to do and it worked good enough to justify a cost, otherwise free. Was hoping

Re: [WISPA] Mesh just for kicks

2009-02-16 Thread 3-dB Networks
-Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Scott Vander Dussen Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 10:13 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Mesh just for kicks Looking to deploy a small mesh network downtown in a small city just for kicks

Re: [WISPA] Mesh just for kicks

2009-02-16 Thread eje
MT and a consultant ;) /me laughing while running for cover Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: Scott Vander Dussen sc...@velociter.net Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 21:13:03 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Mesh just for kicks Looking

Re: [WISPA] Mesh just for kicks

2009-02-16 Thread os10rules
I haven't used this stuff but I've been researching it and have contacted the companies. One is some ready-made two radio (2.4ghz for clients, 5ghz for backhaul) mesh hardware from Wiligear http://www.wiligear.com/?q=products/mesh/wbd-212 which still requires to you package it up

Re: [WISPA] Mesh just for kicks

2009-02-16 Thread os10rules
One more thing I forgot, if you want to use something that is more experimental, more do-it-yourself and which supports a greater variety of hardware there is OpenWRT's firmware with mesh and also http://nightwing.lugro-mesh.org.ar/en/ . These are options using routing options such as