Let me muddy the waters a bit more with an interesting thread:
http://ubnt.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=8556&highlight=fcc
"WTH" seems to be pretty knowledgeable and quotes chapter and verse to
back himself up. His arguments are largely based on the "professional
installation" rules in part-15.
Behalf Of rea...@muddyfrogwater.us
Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 2:30 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC
Nonsense, Matt.
Read the grant yourself. The grant is MODULAR certification, meaning you
can use the module in any way you choose, so long as you lable the device as
correspondence from the FCC on this.
I know someone has, I've seen it and read it.
- Original Message -
From: "Matt Liotta"
To: ; "WISPA General List"
Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 1:57 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC
>
&
with me, argue with the FCC who has done it with eyes
wide open.
- Original Message -
From: "Tom DeReggi"
To: "WISPA General List"
Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 1:39 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC
> Lets not forget
On May 12, 2009, at 4:21 PM, Scott Carullo wrote:
>
> Ok... so back to original dilemma...
>
> I take a XR5, the precise antenna they certified with this radio
> card, a
> RB411 and hook it all up and use it myself within FCC RF guidelines.
>
> Criminal or law abiding citizen...
>
Neither, but
, considering intelectual property
considerations?
Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
- Original Message -
From: "Dennis Burgess - LinkTechs"
To: ; "WISPA General List"
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2009 11:18 PM
Subject: Re: [WIS
: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 3:47 PM
> > To: "e...@wisp-router.com" , "WISPA General List"
>
> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC
> >
> > My view is that once certified with a specific antenna then a system is
> > legal with any antenna of simila
t; Criminal or law abiding citizen...
>
> Scott Carullo
> Brevard Wireless
> 321-205-1100 x102
>
> Original Message
>
>> From: "Jack Unger"
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 3:47 PM
>> To: "e...@wisp-router.com" , "
> From: "Jack Unger"
> Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 3:47 PM
> To: "e...@wisp-router.com" , "WISPA General List"
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC
>
> My view is that once certified with a specific antenna then a system is
> legal with
boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Mike Hammett
> Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 2:23 PM
> To: sc...@brevardwireless.com; WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC
>
> That was some ruling passed a few years ago that really freed the
: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC
The Contains FCC ID: PPD-AR5BXB63 means that the laptop contains a
certified module. EEEPC or whoever the manufacturer is, still had to
get a Declaration of Conformity covering the laptop, module, likely
peripherals, and AC adapter. What they didn't have to do is
ral List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC
That was some ruling passed a few years ago that really freed the markets
up. Certify with the largest panel, omni, parabolic dish, etc. you can get
to pass and anything in those groups is fair game.
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
h
>
> Thoughts? Comments?
>
> __
> Jerry Richardson
> airCloud Communications
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Scott Carullo
> Sent: Tuesday, May 12
2:08 PM
To: "WISPA General List"
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC
> Maybe this will clear things up (or muddy the waters)
>
> I am looking at the bottom of my EEEPC which has a FCC ID: PPD-AR5BXB63
> (Atheros 802.11B/G) which refers to:
> https://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas
--
From: "Scott Carullo"
Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 1:24 PM
To: "Matt Liotta" ;
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC
>
> I've been told personally by an FCC testing lab that I can take a XR5
> which
> has been tested with say a
cott Carullo
Brevard Wireless
321-205-1100 x102
Original Message
> From: "Matt Liotta"
> Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 1:52 PM
> To: "sc...@brevardwireless.com" , "WISPA
General List"
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC
>
> On May
On May 12, 2009, at 2:24 PM, Scott Carullo wrote:
>
> I've been told personally by an FCC testing lab that I can take a
> XR5 which
> has been tested with say a 23db panel antenna (with FCC) and use the
> same
> gain antenna or less for myself and would not have to have it
> certified
> aga
ss
321-205-1100 x102
Original Message
> From: "Matt Liotta"
> Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 1:52 PM
> To: "sc...@brevardwireless.com" , "WISPA
General List"
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC
>
> On May 12, 2009, at 1:25 PM, Scott
odel 500 ptp radio bridge on the retail market without
>> getting
>> the whole system certified as a "kit" including all parts,
>> documentation,
>> power supplies etc...
>> True or False
>>
>> 3) If #1 and #2 above are both true, I'm clear
On Tue, 2009-05-12 at 13:02 -0400, Scott Carullo wrote:
> Its been clearly stated that you can take the RB, a radio card and stick it
> in an enclosure and use it to your hearts content legally per FCC / UL
> rules.
The trouble with that approach is that it isn't legal. In order to be
legal,
On May 12, 2009, at 1:25 PM, Scott Carullo wrote:
>
> Eje Gustafsson says this is not the case or elsewhen I buy a minipci
> wireless card for my laptop it would be illegal...
>
This has been discussed at length. No matter how many times someone
makes the laptop argument it doesn't change the f
rgess - Linktechs"
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 1:13 PM
>> To: "sc...@brevardwireless.com" , "WISPA
>>
> General List"
>
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC
>>
>> Scott, Thats not the case, yo
Burgess - Linktechs"
> Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 1:13 PM
> To: "sc...@brevardwireless.com" , "WISPA
General List"
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC
>
> Scott, Thats not the case, you have to have the Mikrotik FCC Sticker
etc..
&
321-205-1100 x102
>
> ---- Original Message
>
>> From: "Dennis Burgess - Linktechs"
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 12:08 PM
>> To: "WISPA General List"
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC
>>
>> I belive you must
wer supplies etc...
> True or False
>
> 3) If #1 and #2 above are both true, I'm clear thanks conversation over.
> If either one is false we have a lot more to talk about...
>
> Scott Carullo
> Brevard Wireless
> 321-205-1100 x102
>
> Original Message --
12, 2009 12:08 PM
> To: "WISPA General List"
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC
>
> I belive you must purchase hardware directly from MT to be a
distributor.
>
> * ---
> Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mik
t; >>
> >> Scott Carullo
> >> Brevard Wireless
> >> 321-205-1100 x102
> >>
> >> Original Message
> >>
> >>> From: "Dennis Burgess - Linktechs"
> >>> Sent: Monday, May 11, 2009 3:4
fferently?
>>>
>>> Scott Carullo
>>> Brevard Wireless
>>> 321-205-1100 x102
>>>
>>> Original Message
>>>
>>>
>>>> From: "Dennis Burgess - Linktechs"
>>>&
ireless
>> 321-205-1100 x102
>>
>> Original Message ----
>>
>>> From: "Dennis Burgess - Linktechs"
>>> Sent: Monday, May 11, 2009 3:43 PM
>>> To: "WISPA General List"
>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC
&
ay 11, 2009 3:43 PM
> > To: "WISPA General List"
> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC
> >
> > First, you have to be a distributor of MT to be able to certify. It has
> > to be a certified system, as well has t
P-Router, Inc.
> Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Butch Evans
>
> Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 23:32:09
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC
>
>
> On Mon, 2009-05-11 at 22:18 -0500, Dennis Burgess - LinkTechs
Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 23:32:09
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC
On Mon, 2009-05-11 at 22:18 -0500, Dennis Burgess - LinkTechs wrote:
> Yes, you can not certify the radios, MT wants the distributors to build
> and certify them. If you build them, they won't
On Mon, 2009-05-11 at 22:18 -0500, Dennis Burgess - LinkTechs wrote:
> Yes, you can not certify the radios, MT wants the distributors to build
> and certify them. If you build them, they won't be certified.
If Mikrotik has done the Part B certification for the boards, then your
statement is not
t; Scott Carullo
> Brevard Wireless
> 321-205-1100 x102
>
> Original Message
>
>> From: "Dennis Burgess - Linktechs"
>> Sent: Monday, May 11, 2009 3:43 PM
>> To: "WISPA General List"
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC
>&
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Scott Carullo
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2009 7:28 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC
I'm pretty sure the FCC and the testing labs don't care who you are or
where yo
ss
321-205-1100 x102
Original Message
> From: "Dennis Burgess - Linktechs"
> Sent: Monday, May 11, 2009 3:43 PM
> To: "WISPA General List"
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC
>
> First, you have to be a distributor of MT to be able to cert
t;>> I
>>> think Mikrotik developing their own certified CPE shut down everyone
>>> else.
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Mike Hammett
>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>>
>>>
>&
--
From: "Eje Gustafsson"
To: "'WISPA General List'"
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2009 4:28 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC
> This is not true. Or else every minipci card would have to be tested and
> certified with every single laptop they are being installed int
2:52 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC
There are multiple ways to certify equipment, which have different
requirements.
The new trend is to certify the card with the antenna, just like you were
buying a certified wifi card off Best Buy's shelf, intending to insta
ay, May 11, 2009 3:06 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC
Thanks for that answer. As usual, that brings up more questions for me.
If I buy a Mikrotik RB411 card, it has an FCC logo on it, I assume
because it passed some FCC radiation tests. However, I have no idea
what
ly of the FCC, by anyone that has an analyzer.
>
> Tom DeReggi
> RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
> IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Randy Cosby"
> To: ; "WISPA General List"
> Sent: Monday, May 11, 2009
iginal Message -
From: "Randy Cosby"
To: ; "WISPA General List"
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2009 3:13 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC
> Can you explain what you mean by "certified" then? What does that
> entail other than just putting together a board, an
cards in RB SBC's.
>>>
>>> There are other solutions as well.
>>>
>>> We offer some certified pre built solutions more to come.
>>>
>>> / Eje Gustafsson
>>> CTO
>>> WISP-Router, Inc.
>>>
>>> --
erstand and should be readily
>>> available in the near future.
>>>
>>>
>>> Mac
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireles
to come.
>
> / Eje Gustafsson
> CTO
> WISP-Router, Inc.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Randy Cosby
> Sent: Monday, May 11, 2009 1:56 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mi
n
CTO
WISP-Router, Inc.
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Randy Cosby
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2009 1:56 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC
Old thread, but just curious where this has progressed. I
y
> available in the near future.
>
>
> Mac
>
>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>> Behalf Of Mike Hammett
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 8:12 PM
>> To: WISPA General Li
4
> 28 dBi Grid GD5W-28
> 24 dBi Dish DC24HDPF1P-EZ
> 32 dBi Dish DA5W-32P
>
>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
>> Behalf Of Travis Johnson
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 6:38 PM
>> To: [EMAIL
adily
available in the near future.
Mac
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Mike Hammett
> Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 8:12 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC
>
> Mikrotik has
t; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "WISPA General List"
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 6:37 PM
Subject: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC
> Hi,
>
> I thought a little while ago someone was talking about someone that was
> working on making an FCC certified Mikroti
-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Travis Johnson
> Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 6:38 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List
> Subject: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC
>
> Hi,
>
> I thought a little while ago someone was talk
Hi,
I thought a little while ago someone was talking about someone that was
working on making an FCC certified Mikrotik solution (RB532, etc.). Does
anyone know the status on this or if it was even real?
Travis
Microserv
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