Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC

2009-05-13 Thread Randy Cosby
Let me muddy the waters a bit more with an interesting thread: http://ubnt.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=8556&highlight=fcc "WTH" seems to be pretty knowledgeable and quotes chapter and verse to back himself up.  His arguments are largely based on the "professional installation" rules in part-15.

Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC

2009-05-13 Thread Brian Webster
Behalf Of rea...@muddyfrogwater.us Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 2:30 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC Nonsense, Matt. Read the grant yourself. The grant is MODULAR certification, meaning you can use the module in any way you choose, so long as you lable the device as

Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC

2009-05-12 Thread reader
correspondence from the FCC on this. I know someone has, I've seen it and read it. - Original Message - From: "Matt Liotta" To: ; "WISPA General List" Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 1:57 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC > &

Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC

2009-05-12 Thread reader
with me, argue with the FCC who has done it with eyes wide open. - Original Message - From: "Tom DeReggi" To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 1:39 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC > Lets not forget

Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC

2009-05-12 Thread Matt Liotta
On May 12, 2009, at 4:21 PM, Scott Carullo wrote: > > Ok... so back to original dilemma... > > I take a XR5, the precise antenna they certified with this radio > card, a > RB411 and hook it all up and use it myself within FCC RF guidelines. > > Criminal or law abiding citizen... > Neither, but

Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC

2009-05-12 Thread Tom DeReggi
, considering intelectual property considerations? Tom DeReggi RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: "Dennis Burgess - LinkTechs" To: ; "WISPA General List" Sent: Monday, May 11, 2009 11:18 PM Subject: Re: [WIS

Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC

2009-05-12 Thread Mike Delp
: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 3:47 PM > > To: "e...@wisp-router.com" , "WISPA General List" > > > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC > > > > My view is that once certified with a specific antenna then a system is > > legal with any antenna of simila

Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC

2009-05-12 Thread Randy Cosby
t; Criminal or law abiding citizen... > > Scott Carullo > Brevard Wireless > 321-205-1100 x102 > > Original Message > >> From: "Jack Unger" >> Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 3:47 PM >> To: "e...@wisp-router.com" , "

Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC

2009-05-12 Thread Scott Carullo
> From: "Jack Unger" > Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 3:47 PM > To: "e...@wisp-router.com" , "WISPA General List" > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC > > My view is that once certified with a specific antenna then a system is > legal with

Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC

2009-05-12 Thread Jack Unger
boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Mike Hammett > Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 2:23 PM > To: sc...@brevardwireless.com; WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC > > That was some ruling passed a few years ago that really freed the

Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC

2009-05-12 Thread Jerry Richardson
: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC The Contains FCC ID: PPD-AR5BXB63 means that the laptop contains a certified module. EEEPC or whoever the manufacturer is, still had to get a Declaration of Conformity covering the laptop, module, likely peripherals, and AC adapter. What they didn't have to do is

Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC

2009-05-12 Thread Eje Gustafsson
ral List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC That was some ruling passed a few years ago that really freed the markets up. Certify with the largest panel, omni, parabolic dish, etc. you can get to pass and anything in those groups is fair game. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions h

Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC

2009-05-12 Thread Harold Bledsoe
> > Thoughts? Comments? > > __ > Jerry Richardson > airCloud Communications > > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Scott Carullo > Sent: Tuesday, May 12

Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC

2009-05-12 Thread Mike Hammett
2:08 PM To: "WISPA General List" Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC > Maybe this will clear things up (or muddy the waters) > > I am looking at the bottom of my EEEPC which has a FCC ID: PPD-AR5BXB63 > (Atheros 802.11B/G) which refers to: > https://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas

Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC

2009-05-12 Thread Mike Hammett
-- From: "Scott Carullo" Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 1:24 PM To: "Matt Liotta" ; Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC > > I've been told personally by an FCC testing lab that I can take a XR5 > which > has been tested with say a

Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC

2009-05-12 Thread Jerry Richardson
cott Carullo Brevard Wireless 321-205-1100 x102 Original Message > From: "Matt Liotta" > Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 1:52 PM > To: "sc...@brevardwireless.com" , "WISPA General List" > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC > > On May

Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC

2009-05-12 Thread Matt Liotta
On May 12, 2009, at 2:24 PM, Scott Carullo wrote: > > I've been told personally by an FCC testing lab that I can take a > XR5 which > has been tested with say a 23db panel antenna (with FCC) and use the > same > gain antenna or less for myself and would not have to have it > certified > aga

Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC

2009-05-12 Thread Scott Carullo
ss 321-205-1100 x102 Original Message > From: "Matt Liotta" > Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 1:52 PM > To: "sc...@brevardwireless.com" , "WISPA General List" > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC > > On May 12, 2009, at 1:25 PM, Scott

Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC

2009-05-12 Thread os10rules
odel 500 ptp radio bridge on the retail market without >> getting >> the whole system certified as a "kit" including all parts, >> documentation, >> power supplies etc... >> True or False >> >> 3) If #1 and #2 above are both true, I'm clear

Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC

2009-05-12 Thread Butch Evans
On Tue, 2009-05-12 at 13:02 -0400, Scott Carullo wrote: > Its been clearly stated that you can take the RB, a radio card and stick it > in an enclosure and use it to your hearts content legally per FCC / UL > rules. The trouble with that approach is that it isn't legal. In order to be legal,

Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC

2009-05-12 Thread Matt Liotta
On May 12, 2009, at 1:25 PM, Scott Carullo wrote: > > Eje Gustafsson says this is not the case or elsewhen I buy a minipci > wireless card for my laptop it would be illegal... > This has been discussed at length. No matter how many times someone makes the laptop argument it doesn't change the f

Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC

2009-05-12 Thread Scott Reed
rgess - Linktechs" >> Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 1:13 PM >> To: "sc...@brevardwireless.com" , "WISPA >> > General List" > >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC >> >> Scott, Thats not the case, yo

Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC

2009-05-12 Thread Scott Carullo
Burgess - Linktechs" > Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 1:13 PM > To: "sc...@brevardwireless.com" , "WISPA General List" > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC > > Scott, Thats not the case, you have to have the Mikrotik FCC Sticker etc.. &

Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC

2009-05-12 Thread Dennis Burgess - Linktechs
321-205-1100 x102 > > ---- Original Message > >> From: "Dennis Burgess - Linktechs" >> Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 12:08 PM >> To: "WISPA General List" >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC >> >> I belive you must

Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC

2009-05-12 Thread Randy Cosby
wer supplies etc... > True or False > > 3) If #1 and #2 above are both true, I'm clear thanks conversation over. > If either one is false we have a lot more to talk about... > > Scott Carullo > Brevard Wireless > 321-205-1100 x102 > > Original Message --

Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC

2009-05-12 Thread Scott Carullo
12, 2009 12:08 PM > To: "WISPA General List" > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC > > I belive you must purchase hardware directly from MT to be a distributor. > > * --- > Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mik

Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC

2009-05-12 Thread Mike Delp
t; >> > >> Scott Carullo > >> Brevard Wireless > >> 321-205-1100 x102 > >> > >> Original Message > >> > >>> From: "Dennis Burgess - Linktechs" > >>> Sent: Monday, May 11, 2009 3:4

Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC

2009-05-12 Thread Dennis Burgess - Linktechs
fferently? >>> >>> Scott Carullo >>> Brevard Wireless >>> 321-205-1100 x102 >>> >>> Original Message >>> >>> >>>> From: "Dennis Burgess - Linktechs" >>>&

Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC

2009-05-12 Thread Randy Cosby
ireless >> 321-205-1100 x102 >> >> Original Message ---- >> >>> From: "Dennis Burgess - Linktechs" >>> Sent: Monday, May 11, 2009 3:43 PM >>> To: "WISPA General List" >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC &

Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC

2009-05-12 Thread Mike Delp
ay 11, 2009 3:43 PM > > To: "WISPA General List" > > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC > > > > First, you have to be a distributor of MT to be able to certify. It has > > to be a certified system, as well has t

Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC

2009-05-11 Thread Scott Carullo
P-Router, Inc. > Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile > > -Original Message- > From: Butch Evans > > Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 23:32:09 > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC > > > On Mon, 2009-05-11 at 22:18 -0500, Dennis Burgess - LinkTechs

Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC

2009-05-11 Thread eje
Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 23:32:09 To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC On Mon, 2009-05-11 at 22:18 -0500, Dennis Burgess - LinkTechs wrote: > Yes, you can not certify the radios, MT wants the distributors to build > and certify them. If you build them, they won't

Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC

2009-05-11 Thread Butch Evans
On Mon, 2009-05-11 at 22:18 -0500, Dennis Burgess - LinkTechs wrote: > Yes, you can not certify the radios, MT wants the distributors to build > and certify them. If you build them, they won't be certified. If Mikrotik has done the Part B certification for the boards, then your statement is not

Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC

2009-05-11 Thread Dennis Burgess - LinkTechs
t; Scott Carullo > Brevard Wireless > 321-205-1100 x102 > > Original Message > >> From: "Dennis Burgess - Linktechs" >> Sent: Monday, May 11, 2009 3:43 PM >> To: "WISPA General List" >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC >&

Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC

2009-05-11 Thread Jonathan Schmidt
-Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Scott Carullo Sent: Monday, May 11, 2009 7:28 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC I'm pretty sure the FCC and the testing labs don't care who you are or where yo

Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC

2009-05-11 Thread Scott Carullo
ss 321-205-1100 x102 Original Message > From: "Dennis Burgess - Linktechs" > Sent: Monday, May 11, 2009 3:43 PM > To: "WISPA General List" > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC > > First, you have to be a distributor of MT to be able to cert

Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC

2009-05-11 Thread sa...@jeffcosoho.com
t;>> I >>> think Mikrotik developing their own certified CPE shut down everyone >>> else. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Mike Hammett >>> Intelligent Computing Solutions >>> http://www.ics-il.com >>> >>> >&

Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC

2009-05-11 Thread Tom DeReggi
-- From: "Eje Gustafsson" To: "'WISPA General List'" Sent: Monday, May 11, 2009 4:28 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC > This is not true. Or else every minipci card would have to be tested and > certified with every single laptop they are being installed int

Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC

2009-05-11 Thread Eje Gustafsson
2:52 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC There are multiple ways to certify equipment, which have different requirements. The new trend is to certify the card with the antenna, just like you were buying a certified wifi card off Best Buy's shelf, intending to insta

Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC

2009-05-11 Thread Eje Gustafsson
ay, May 11, 2009 3:06 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC Thanks for that answer. As usual, that brings up more questions for me. If I buy a Mikrotik RB411 card, it has an FCC logo on it, I assume because it passed some FCC radiation tests. However, I have no idea what

Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC

2009-05-11 Thread Randy Cosby
ly of the FCC, by anyone that has an analyzer. > > Tom DeReggi > RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc > IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband > > > - Original Message - > From: "Randy Cosby" > To: ; "WISPA General List" > Sent: Monday, May 11, 2009

Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC

2009-05-11 Thread Tom DeReggi
iginal Message - From: "Randy Cosby" To: ; "WISPA General List" Sent: Monday, May 11, 2009 3:13 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC > Can you explain what you mean by "certified" then? What does that > entail other than just putting together a board, an

Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC

2009-05-11 Thread Randy Cosby
cards in RB SBC's. >>> >>> There are other solutions as well. >>> >>> We offer some certified pre built solutions more to come. >>> >>> / Eje Gustafsson >>> CTO >>> WISP-Router, Inc. >>> >>> --

Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC

2009-05-11 Thread Dennis Burgess - Linktechs
erstand and should be readily >>> available in the near future. >>> >>> >>> Mac >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> -Original Message- >>>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireles

Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC

2009-05-11 Thread Randy Cosby
to come. > > / Eje Gustafsson > CTO > WISP-Router, Inc. > > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Randy Cosby > Sent: Monday, May 11, 2009 1:56 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mi

Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC

2009-05-11 Thread Eje Gustafsson
n CTO WISP-Router, Inc. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Randy Cosby Sent: Monday, May 11, 2009 1:56 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC Old thread, but just curious where this has progressed. I&#x

Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC

2009-05-11 Thread Randy Cosby
y > available in the near future. > > > Mac > > >> -Original Message- >> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On >> Behalf Of Mike Hammett >> Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 8:12 PM >> To: WISPA General Li

Re: [WISPA] MikroTik FCC

2008-02-07 Thread Jack Unger
4 > 28 dBi Grid GD5W-28 > 24 dBi Dish DC24HDPF1P-EZ > 32 dBi Dish DA5W-32P > > >> -Original Message- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On >> Behalf Of Travis Johnson >> Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 6:38 PM >> To: [EMAIL

Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC

2008-02-06 Thread Mac Dearman
adily available in the near future. Mac > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Mike Hammett > Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 8:12 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC > > Mikrotik has

Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC

2008-02-06 Thread Mike Hammett
t; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "WISPA General List" Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 6:37 PM Subject: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC > Hi, > > I thought a little while ago someone was talking about someone that was > working on making an FCC certified Mikroti

Re: [WISPA] MikroTik FCC

2008-02-06 Thread Mac Dearman
- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Travis Johnson > Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 6:38 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List > Subject: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC > > Hi, > > I thought a little while ago someone was talk

[WISPA] Mikrotik FCC

2008-02-06 Thread Travis Johnson
Hi, I thought a little while ago someone was talking about someone that was working on making an FCC certified Mikrotik solution (RB532, etc.). Does anyone know the status on this or if it was even real? Travis Microserv