Re: [WISPA] Nokia achieves 4.2 Gbps LTE speeds using TDD and FDD Carrier Aggregation #GettingCloserTo10G
Glad that someone asked - LTE Advanced using 8x8 MIMO can do 30 bits per Hertz. That is quite the improvement obviously! The limitations are important though as the "Shannon - Hartley" research shows. Daniel Gino Villarini wrote .. > Bit late on this, but the announcement is based on licensed spectrum and > the ability for carriers to aggregate various spectrum assets on the same > RAN. Its definetly does not apply for Unlicensed Spectrum. > > Cant get more efficient than this, show me a technology that could deliver > 21 bits per hz using the same 200 mhz on any geographic regionŠ > > > > Gino A. Villarini > President > Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. > www.aeronetpr.com > @aeronetpr > > > > > > > On 12/10/14, 12:14 PM, "daniel.mul...@metrocom.ca" > wrote: > > >I agreed with not setting specific interfaces on spectrum, which was a > >problem we had in Canada back in the 1990s, but the FCC has in the past > >allowed things - namely a certain 4G operator using satellite spectrum > >for terrestrial use - where existings users - anyone with GPS technology > >- were supposed to deal with their own 'lack of steel-toed boots' and > >instead it fell apart. Being in 'new' spectrum in this case should make > >things easier for you in the U.S.A. > > > >Canada has gone back to look at its use of 3.5 GHz and there may be > >developments here that change the landscape a bit so stay tuned to our > >developments! > > > >Daniel > > > > > >Patrick Leary wrote .. > >> re those comments in 2002, here's an example. During the Spectrum > >>Policy Task > >> Force, there were some elements of industry trying to insist the FCC > >>codify Wi-Fi > >> as the only standard accepted for use in future unlicensed bands. I > >>argued aggressively > >> against this, with this being my opening salvo Found on page 102 of the > >>transcript): > >> > >> 3 MR. LEARY: I'm sorry. Patrick Leary > >> 4 with Alvarion. If I walk into a crowded Egyptian > >> 5 bazaar without any shoes and I cut my feet, or I > >> 6 get my toes stepped on, is it the fault -- whose > >> 7 fault is it? It's my fault because I chose the > >> 8 wrong technology. > >> 9 The same person could back into that > >> 10 same bazaar with a pair of steel-toed boots and be > >> 11 just fine. If that same bazaar, if there's 3,000 > >> 12 people in there, and 2,000 of them don't wear > >> 13 shoes, and 2,000 of them get hurt, yes, there's a > >> 14 problem, but that still is not the problem of the > >> 15 band. It's the problem of the predominant choice, > >> 16 being chosen by most of those people, so I would > >> 17 caution, just as Professor Lessig was saying, you > >> 18 know. The myth of congestion is in large, a > >> 19 comment about the technology itself that's been > >> 20 deployed, not about the band itself so, you know, > >> 21 if you start protecting for this one prevailing > >> 22 standard, of which I also participate in to some > >> 23 degree then, you know, you stifle innovation and > >> 24 you're protecting the wrong things. > >> > >> Patrick Leary > >> M 727.501.3735 > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> -Original Message- > >> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > >>Behalf > >> Of Patrick Leary > >> Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 10:27 AM > >> To: paolo.difrance...@level7.it; WISPA General List > >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nokia achieves 4.2 Gbps LTE speeds using TDD and > >>FDD Carrier > >> Aggregation #GettingCloserTo10G > >> > >> Paolo, > >> > >> As Mike notes, WISPA has had a number of webinars on the topic. Here is > >>my understanding > >> of what's to be expected, in part, of the emerging rules. NOTE: THIS > >>MAY NOT BE > >> WHAT ACTUALLY EMERGES AS THE RULES, it comprises MY educated > >>expectation. None > >> have a better understanding though than Steve Coran and it is well > >>worth a consultation > >> fee for any U.S.-based operator to have a dedicated call with him. > >> > >> I will offer some international perspective here as well for your > >>benefit there > >> in Italy. > >> > >> - 100 MHz of spectrum, divided in 10 MHz channels per census blocks &
Re: [WISPA] Nokia achieves 4.2 Gbps LTE speeds using TDD and FDD Carrier Aggregation #GettingCloserTo10G
Bit late on this, but the announcement is based on licensed spectrum and the ability for carriers to aggregate various spectrum assets on the same RAN. Its definetly does not apply for Unlicensed Spectrum. Cant get more efficient than this, show me a technology that could deliver 21 bits per hz using the same 200 mhz on any geographic regionŠ Gino A. Villarini President Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. www.aeronetpr.com @aeronetpr On 12/10/14, 12:14 PM, "daniel.mul...@metrocom.ca" wrote: >I agreed with not setting specific interfaces on spectrum, which was a >problem we had in Canada back in the 1990s, but the FCC has in the past >allowed things - namely a certain 4G operator using satellite spectrum >for terrestrial use - where existings users - anyone with GPS technology >- were supposed to deal with their own 'lack of steel-toed boots' and >instead it fell apart. Being in 'new' spectrum in this case should make >things easier for you in the U.S.A. > >Canada has gone back to look at its use of 3.5 GHz and there may be >developments here that change the landscape a bit so stay tuned to our >developments! > >Daniel > > >Patrick Leary wrote .. >> re those comments in 2002, here's an example. During the Spectrum >>Policy Task >> Force, there were some elements of industry trying to insist the FCC >>codify Wi-Fi >> as the only standard accepted for use in future unlicensed bands. I >>argued aggressively >> against this, with this being my opening salvo Found on page 102 of the >>transcript): >> >> 3 MR. LEARY: I'm sorry. Patrick Leary >> 4 with Alvarion. If I walk into a crowded Egyptian >> 5 bazaar without any shoes and I cut my feet, or I >> 6 get my toes stepped on, is it the fault -- whose >> 7 fault is it? It's my fault because I chose the >> 8 wrong technology. >> 9 The same person could back into that >> 10 same bazaar with a pair of steel-toed boots and be >> 11 just fine. If that same bazaar, if there's 3,000 >> 12 people in there, and 2,000 of them don't wear >> 13 shoes, and 2,000 of them get hurt, yes, there's a >> 14 problem, but that still is not the problem of the >> 15 band. It's the problem of the predominant choice, >> 16 being chosen by most of those people, so I would >> 17 caution, just as Professor Lessig was saying, you >> 18 know. The myth of congestion is in large, a >> 19 comment about the technology itself that's been >> 20 deployed, not about the band itself so, you know, >> 21 if you start protecting for this one prevailing >> 22 standard, of which I also participate in to some >> 23 degree then, you know, you stifle innovation and >> 24 you're protecting the wrong things. >> >> Patrick Leary >> M 727.501.3735 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On >>Behalf >> Of Patrick Leary >> Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 10:27 AM >> To: paolo.difrance...@level7.it; WISPA General List >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nokia achieves 4.2 Gbps LTE speeds using TDD and >>FDD Carrier >> Aggregation #GettingCloserTo10G >> >> Paolo, >> >> As Mike notes, WISPA has had a number of webinars on the topic. Here is >>my understanding >> of what's to be expected, in part, of the emerging rules. NOTE: THIS >>MAY NOT BE >> WHAT ACTUALLY EMERGES AS THE RULES, it comprises MY educated >>expectation. None >> have a better understanding though than Steve Coran and it is well >>worth a consultation >> fee for any U.S.-based operator to have a dedicated call with him. >> >> I will offer some international perspective here as well for your >>benefit there >> in Italy. >> >> - 100 MHz of spectrum, divided in 10 MHz channels per census blocks >>(tricky) >> - Of this, 30-50% MAY be auctioned off, though "auction" process is >>likely not >> to follow traditional cumbersome process, but some low burden >>streamlined method >> - remaining 70% (7 10 MHz channels) will be open for free, >>opportunistic use >> - Of this, it seems FCC may limit any individual operator from >>acquiring more that >> 30% (3 channels) >> - "ownership" likely to be purchased in yearly blocks, up to 3 years >>max perhaps >> - HOWEVER...even if one "owns" some of this spectrum, others can use it >>IF the >> owners have not built in the spectrum. And then, once and if the owners >>DO build, &
Re: [WISPA] Nokia achieves 4.2 Gbps LTE speeds using TDD and FDD Carrier Aggregation #GettingCloserTo10G
I agreed with not setting specific interfaces on spectrum, which was a problem we had in Canada back in the 1990s, but the FCC has in the past allowed things - namely a certain 4G operator using satellite spectrum for terrestrial use - where existings users - anyone with GPS technology - were supposed to deal with their own 'lack of steel-toed boots' and instead it fell apart. Being in 'new' spectrum in this case should make things easier for you in the U.S.A. Canada has gone back to look at its use of 3.5 GHz and there may be developments here that change the landscape a bit so stay tuned to our developments! Daniel Patrick Leary wrote .. > re those comments in 2002, here's an example. During the Spectrum Policy > Task > Force, there were some elements of industry trying to insist the FCC codify > Wi-Fi > as the only standard accepted for use in future unlicensed bands. I argued > aggressively > against this, with this being my opening salvo Found on page 102 of the > transcript): > > 3 MR. LEARY: I'm sorry. Patrick Leary > 4 with Alvarion. If I walk into a crowded Egyptian > 5 bazaar without any shoes and I cut my feet, or I > 6 get my toes stepped on, is it the fault -- whose > 7 fault is it? It's my fault because I chose the > 8 wrong technology. > 9 The same person could back into that > 10 same bazaar with a pair of steel-toed boots and be > 11 just fine. If that same bazaar, if there's 3,000 > 12 people in there, and 2,000 of them don't wear > 13 shoes, and 2,000 of them get hurt, yes, there's a > 14 problem, but that still is not the problem of the > 15 band. It's the problem of the predominant choice, > 16 being chosen by most of those people, so I would > 17 caution, just as Professor Lessig was saying, you > 18 know. The myth of congestion is in large, a > 19 comment about the technology itself that's been > 20 deployed, not about the band itself so, you know, > 21 if you start protecting for this one prevailing > 22 standard, of which I also participate in to some > 23 degree then, you know, you stifle innovation and > 24 you're protecting the wrong things. > > Patrick Leary > M 727.501.3735 > > > > > > > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf > Of Patrick Leary > Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 10:27 AM > To: paolo.difrance...@level7.it; WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nokia achieves 4.2 Gbps LTE speeds using TDD and FDD > Carrier > Aggregation #GettingCloserTo10G > > Paolo, > > As Mike notes, WISPA has had a number of webinars on the topic. Here is my > understanding > of what's to be expected, in part, of the emerging rules. NOTE: THIS MAY NOT > BE > WHAT ACTUALLY EMERGES AS THE RULES, it comprises MY educated expectation. None > have a better understanding though than Steve Coran and it is well worth a > consultation > fee for any U.S.-based operator to have a dedicated call with him. > > I will offer some international perspective here as well for your benefit > there > in Italy. > > - 100 MHz of spectrum, divided in 10 MHz channels per census blocks (tricky) > - Of this, 30-50% MAY be auctioned off, though "auction" process is likely not > to follow traditional cumbersome process, but some low burden streamlined > method > - remaining 70% (7 10 MHz channels) will be open for free, opportunistic use > - Of this, it seems FCC may limit any individual operator from acquiring more > that > 30% (3 channels) > - "ownership" likely to be purchased in yearly blocks, up to 3 years max > perhaps > - HOWEVER...even if one "owns" some of this spectrum, others can use it IF the > owners have not built in the spectrum. And then, once and if the owners DO > build, > the borg (as I call it) like Google or Spectrum Bridge who'll be dynamically > managing > base station channels (all connected to the cloud) will relocate the > opportunistic > user to open spectrum, returning back the exclusive spectrum to the owner now > actively > using it > - this borg will have the government contract to manage the spectrum following > a methodology akin to how TVWS works currently, though management may be more > granular > (if Google has its way, and I think more granularity is better, as it would > open > use more broadly) > - potential power seems undetermined at this point, but may exceed current > 3.65 > for hyper rural areas, similar to the Canadian model (could be huge) > - there will likely be a prioritization scheme whereby certain defined sets of > users will granted use priority, meaning
Re: [WISPA] Nokia achieves 4.2 Gbps LTE speeds using TDD and FDD Carrier Aggregation #GettingCloserTo10G
Yes, this could be what happens. I prefer your version re the non-specific exclusivity; I think that'd be an excellent devolopment. I'll be happy when we all know definitively. Patrick Leary M 727.501.3735 [cid:image001.png@01D01467.FD546D20]<http://mkt2.us/TelrdNet> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 10:46 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nokia achieves 4.2 Gbps LTE speeds using TDD and FDD Carrier Aggregation #GettingCloserTo10G Also only my opinion, but I believe: The licenses are 10 MHz wide, but unlicensed operations can do whatever they want regarding channel size (well, and device certification). An operator can only have three licenses in a given area (block, tract, I forget what). 50 MHz will remain for unlicensed operations. All channels are dynamically allocated by the SAS database (even licensed). Your license isn't for a specific 10 Mhz (3550 - 3560), but just 10 MHz anywhere in the space. I think that's about all that i would add or redirect from your post. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com [Image removed by sender.]<https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>[Image removed by sender.]<https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>[Image removed by sender.]<https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>[Image removed by sender.]<https://twitter.com/ICSIL> From: "Patrick Leary" To: "paolo difrancesco" , "WISPA General List" Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 9:27:16 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nokia achieves 4.2 Gbps LTE speeds using TDDand FDDCarrier Aggregation #GettingCloserTo10G Paolo, As Mike notes, WISPA has had a number of webinars on the topic. Here is my understanding of what's to be expected, in part, of the emerging rules. NOTE: THIS MAY NOT BE WHAT ACTUALLY EMERGES AS THE RULES, it comprises MY educated expectation. None have a better understanding though than Steve Coran and it is well worth a consultation fee for any U.S.-based operator to have a dedicated call with him. I will offer some international perspective here as well for your benefit there in Italy. - 100 MHz of spectrum, divided in 10 MHz channels per census blocks (tricky) - Of this, 30-50% MAY be auctioned off, though "auction" process is likely not to follow traditional cumbersome process, but some low burden streamlined method - remaining 70% (7 10 MHz channels) will be open for free, opportunistic use - Of this, it seems FCC may limit any individual operator from acquiring more that 30% (3 channels) - "ownership" likely to be purchased in yearly blocks, up to 3 years max perhaps - HOWEVER...even if one "owns" some of this spectrum, others can use it IF the owners have not built in the spectrum. And then, once and if the owners DO build, the borg (as I call it) like Google or Spectrum Bridge who'll be dynamically managing base station channels (all connected to the cloud) will relocate the opportunistic user to open spectrum, returning back the exclusive spectrum to the owner now actively using it - this borg will have the government contract to manage the spectrum following a methodology akin to how TVWS works currently, though management may be more granular (if Google has its way, and I think more granularity is better, as it would open use more broadly) - potential power seems undetermined at this point, but may exceed current 3.65 for hyper rural areas, similar to the Canadian model (could be huge) - there will likely be a prioritization scheme whereby certain defined sets of users will granted use priority, meaning the borg moves other users away from their active channels, moving them to open channels I understand some of this sounds impossible, but that's because many of us don't yet understand what's meant by "dynamic" as it relates to machines talking to machines in real time. A reason I submit this all matters internationally is that U.S. adoption of this band for commercial use will help drive scale, further reducing cost globally and encouraging lots of device makers to build devices (what the LTE world calls "UEs" for the band -- a cell phone is a UE, as is a fixed wireless CPE). I fully expect things like IP cameras, traffic systems, parking meters, etc. to have embedded 3.5x LTE chipsets, not to mention gobs of traditional fixed wireless "UE" options. Over the years, I've been pretty spot on with my market predictions re fixed wireless -- which companies survive, which spectrum comes along, use uptake, etc. -- and in some cases I've played a literal direct role in enabling it (see my comments in this FCC transcript re advised rules for 3.
Re: [WISPA] Nokia achieves 4.2 Gbps LTE speeds using TDD and FDD Carrier Aggregation #GettingCloserTo10G
Also only my opinion, but I believe: The licenses are 10 MHz wide, but unlicensed operations can do whatever they want regarding channel size (well, and device certification). An operator can only have three licenses in a given area (block, tract, I forget what). 50 MHz will remain for unlicensed operations. All channels are dynamically allocated by the SAS database (even licensed). Your license isn't for a specific 10 Mhz (3550 - 3560), but just 10 MHz anywhere in the space. I think that's about all that i would add or redirect from your post. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: "Patrick Leary" To: "paolo difrancesco" , "WISPA General List" Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 9:27:16 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nokia achieves 4.2 Gbps LTE speeds using TDD and FDD Carrier Aggregation #GettingCloserTo10G Paolo, As Mike notes, WISPA has had a number of webinars on the topic. Here is my understanding of what's to be expected, in part, of the emerging rules. NOTE: THIS MAY NOT BE WHAT ACTUALLY EMERGES AS THE RULES, it comprises MY educated expectation. None have a better understanding though than Steve Coran and it is well worth a consultation fee for any U.S.-based operator to have a dedicated call with him. I will offer some international perspective here as well for your benefit there in Italy. - 100 MHz of spectrum, divided in 10 MHz channels per census blocks (tricky) - Of this, 30-50% MAY be auctioned off, though "auction" process is likely not to follow traditional cumbersome process, but some low burden streamlined method - remaining 70% (7 10 MHz channels) will be open for free, opportunistic use - Of this, it seems FCC may limit any individual operator from acquiring more that 30% (3 channels) - "ownership" likely to be purchased in yearly blocks, up to 3 years max perhaps - HOWEVER...even if one "owns" some of this spectrum, others can use it IF the owners have not built in the spectrum. And then, once and if the owners DO build, the borg (as I call it) like Google or Spectrum Bridge who'll be dynamically managing base station channels (all connected to the cloud) will relocate the opportunistic user to open spectrum, returning back the exclusive spectrum to the owner now actively using it - this borg will have the government contract to manage the spectrum following a methodology akin to how TVWS works currently, though management may be more granular (if Google has its way, and I think more granularity is better, as it would open use more broadly) - potential power seems undetermined at this point, but may exceed current 3.65 for hyper rural areas, similar to the Canadian model (could be huge) - there will likely be a prioritization scheme whereby certain defined sets of users will granted use priority, meaning the borg moves other users away from their active channels, moving them to open channels I understand some of this sounds impossible, but that's because many of us don't yet understand what's meant by "dynamic" as it relates to machines talking to machines in real time. A reason I submit this all matters internationally is that U.S. adoption of this band for commercial use will help drive scale, further reducing cost globally and encouraging lots of device makers to build devices (what the LTE world calls "UEs" for the band -- a cell phone is a UE, as is a fixed wireless CPE). I fully expect things like IP cameras, traffic systems, parking meters, etc. to have embedded 3.5x LTE chipsets, not to mention gobs of traditional fixed wireless "UE" options. Over the years, I've been pretty spot on with my market predictions re fixed wireless -- which companies survive, which spectrum comes along, use uptake, etc. -- and in some cases I've played a literal direct role in enabling it (see my comments in this FCC transcript re advised rules for 3.65 band way back in 2002, 3 years before it was released http://transition.fcc.gov/sptf/files/0801fcc.pdf). I am hoping my streak continues. Patrick Leary M 727.501.3735 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Paolo Di Francesco Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 9:18 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nokia achieves 4.2 Gbps LTE speeds using TDD and FDD Carrier Aggregation #GettingCloserTo10G will that spectrum be licensed? > Those are good points Mike, and it explains one reason I'm so excited > over 3.550-3.650 MHz. I think the coming spectrum is a game changer > for many reasons, this among them. > > *Patrick Leary* > > ***M*727.501.3735 > > <http://mkt2.us/TelrdNet> > > > *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org [
Re: [WISPA] Nokia achieves 4.2 Gbps LTE speeds using TDD and FDD Carrier Aggregation #GettingCloserTo10G
re those comments in 2002, here's an example. During the Spectrum Policy Task Force, there were some elements of industry trying to insist the FCC codify Wi-Fi as the only standard accepted for use in future unlicensed bands. I argued aggressively against this, with this being my opening salvo Found on page 102 of the transcript): 3 MR. LEARY: I'm sorry. Patrick Leary 4 with Alvarion. If I walk into a crowded Egyptian 5 bazaar without any shoes and I cut my feet, or I 6 get my toes stepped on, is it the fault -- whose 7 fault is it? It's my fault because I chose the 8 wrong technology. 9 The same person could back into that 10 same bazaar with a pair of steel-toed boots and be 11 just fine. If that same bazaar, if there's 3,000 12 people in there, and 2,000 of them don't wear 13 shoes, and 2,000 of them get hurt, yes, there's a 14 problem, but that still is not the problem of the 15 band. It's the problem of the predominant choice, 16 being chosen by most of those people, so I would 17 caution, just as Professor Lessig was saying, you 18 know. The myth of congestion is in large, a 19 comment about the technology itself that's been 20 deployed, not about the band itself so, you know, 21 if you start protecting for this one prevailing 22 standard, of which I also participate in to some 23 degree then, you know, you stifle innovation and 24 you're protecting the wrong things. Patrick Leary M 727.501.3735 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Patrick Leary Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 10:27 AM To: paolo.difrance...@level7.it; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nokia achieves 4.2 Gbps LTE speeds using TDD and FDD Carrier Aggregation #GettingCloserTo10G Paolo, As Mike notes, WISPA has had a number of webinars on the topic. Here is my understanding of what's to be expected, in part, of the emerging rules. NOTE: THIS MAY NOT BE WHAT ACTUALLY EMERGES AS THE RULES, it comprises MY educated expectation. None have a better understanding though than Steve Coran and it is well worth a consultation fee for any U.S.-based operator to have a dedicated call with him. I will offer some international perspective here as well for your benefit there in Italy. - 100 MHz of spectrum, divided in 10 MHz channels per census blocks (tricky) - Of this, 30-50% MAY be auctioned off, though "auction" process is likely not to follow traditional cumbersome process, but some low burden streamlined method - remaining 70% (7 10 MHz channels) will be open for free, opportunistic use - Of this, it seems FCC may limit any individual operator from acquiring more that 30% (3 channels) - "ownership" likely to be purchased in yearly blocks, up to 3 years max perhaps - HOWEVER...even if one "owns" some of this spectrum, others can use it IF the owners have not built in the spectrum. And then, once and if the owners DO build, the borg (as I call it) like Google or Spectrum Bridge who'll be dynamically managing base station channels (all connected to the cloud) will relocate the opportunistic user to open spectrum, returning back the exclusive spectrum to the owner now actively using it - this borg will have the government contract to manage the spectrum following a methodology akin to how TVWS works currently, though management may be more granular (if Google has its way, and I think more granularity is better, as it would open use more broadly) - potential power seems undetermined at this point, but may exceed current 3.65 for hyper rural areas, similar to the Canadian model (could be huge) - there will likely be a prioritization scheme whereby certain defined sets of users will granted use priority, meaning the borg moves other users away from their active channels, moving them to open channels I understand some of this sounds impossible, but that's because many of us don't yet understand what's meant by "dynamic" as it relates to machines talking to machines in real time. A reason I submit this all matters internationally is that U.S. adoption of this band for commercial use will help drive scale, further reducing cost globally and encouraging lots of device makers to build devices (what the LTE world calls "UEs" for the band -- a cell phone is a UE, as is a fixed wireless CPE). I fully expect things like IP cameras, traffic systems, parking meters, etc. to have embedded 3.5x LTE chipsets, not to mention gobs of traditional fixed wireless "UE" options. Over the years, I've been pretty spot on with my market predictions re fixed wireless -- which companies survive, which spectrum comes along, use uptake, etc. -- and in some cases I've played a literal direct role in enabling it (see my comments in this FCC transcript re advised rules for 3.65 band way back in 2002, 3 years
Re: [WISPA] Nokia achieves 4.2 Gbps LTE speeds using TDD and FDD Carrier Aggregation #GettingCloserTo10G
Paolo, As Mike notes, WISPA has had a number of webinars on the topic. Here is my understanding of what's to be expected, in part, of the emerging rules. NOTE: THIS MAY NOT BE WHAT ACTUALLY EMERGES AS THE RULES, it comprises MY educated expectation. None have a better understanding though than Steve Coran and it is well worth a consultation fee for any U.S.-based operator to have a dedicated call with him. I will offer some international perspective here as well for your benefit there in Italy. - 100 MHz of spectrum, divided in 10 MHz channels per census blocks (tricky) - Of this, 30-50% MAY be auctioned off, though "auction" process is likely not to follow traditional cumbersome process, but some low burden streamlined method - remaining 70% (7 10 MHz channels) will be open for free, opportunistic use - Of this, it seems FCC may limit any individual operator from acquiring more that 30% (3 channels) - "ownership" likely to be purchased in yearly blocks, up to 3 years max perhaps - HOWEVER...even if one "owns" some of this spectrum, others can use it IF the owners have not built in the spectrum. And then, once and if the owners DO build, the borg (as I call it) like Google or Spectrum Bridge who'll be dynamically managing base station channels (all connected to the cloud) will relocate the opportunistic user to open spectrum, returning back the exclusive spectrum to the owner now actively using it - this borg will have the government contract to manage the spectrum following a methodology akin to how TVWS works currently, though management may be more granular (if Google has its way, and I think more granularity is better, as it would open use more broadly) - potential power seems undetermined at this point, but may exceed current 3.65 for hyper rural areas, similar to the Canadian model (could be huge) - there will likely be a prioritization scheme whereby certain defined sets of users will granted use priority, meaning the borg moves other users away from their active channels, moving them to open channels I understand some of this sounds impossible, but that's because many of us don't yet understand what's meant by "dynamic" as it relates to machines talking to machines in real time. A reason I submit this all matters internationally is that U.S. adoption of this band for commercial use will help drive scale, further reducing cost globally and encouraging lots of device makers to build devices (what the LTE world calls "UEs" for the band -- a cell phone is a UE, as is a fixed wireless CPE). I fully expect things like IP cameras, traffic systems, parking meters, etc. to have embedded 3.5x LTE chipsets, not to mention gobs of traditional fixed wireless "UE" options. Over the years, I've been pretty spot on with my market predictions re fixed wireless -- which companies survive, which spectrum comes along, use uptake, etc. -- and in some cases I've played a literal direct role in enabling it (see my comments in this FCC transcript re advised rules for 3.65 band way back in 2002, 3 years before it was released http://transition.fcc.gov/sptf/files/0801fcc.pdf). I am hoping my streak continues. Patrick Leary M 727.501.3735 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Paolo Di Francesco Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 9:18 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nokia achieves 4.2 Gbps LTE speeds using TDD and FDD Carrier Aggregation #GettingCloserTo10G will that spectrum be licensed? > Those are good points Mike, and it explains one reason I'm so excited > over 3.550-3.650 MHz. I think the coming spectrum is a game changer > for many reasons, this among them. > > *Patrick Leary* > > ***M*727.501.3735 > > <http://mkt2.us/TelrdNet> > > > *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] > *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett > *Sent:* Wednesday, December 10, 2014 8:26 AM > *To:* WISPA General List > *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Nokia achieves 4.2 Gbps LTE speeds using TDD > and FDD Carrier Aggregation #GettingCloserTo10G > > I know of eICIC. It's still increasing efficiency as you're now doing > this all in one channel everywhere vs. one channel per radio or a > couple channels per tower. > > That said, in unlicensed spectrum that is busy like 5 GHz or 2.4, > you're not going to use the same channel everywhere as it would be > impossible to do so due to external interferers. > > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > Image removed by sender. <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>Image removed > by sender. > <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>Image > removed by sen
Re: [WISPA] Nokia achieves 4.2 Gbps LTE speeds using TDD and FDD Carrier Aggregation #GettingCloserTo10G
Yes and no. WISPA has had several webinars and e-mails about the 3550 - 3700 band. Perhaps one of hte admins can direct you to one of them. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: "Paolo Di Francesco" To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 8:17:50 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nokia achieves 4.2 Gbps LTE speeds using TDD and FDD Carrier Aggregation #GettingCloserTo10G will that spectrum be licensed? > Those are good points Mike, and it explains one reason I'm so excited > over 3.550-3.650 MHz. I think the coming spectrum is a game changer > for many reasons, this among them. > > *Patrick Leary* > > ***M*727.501.3735 > > <http://mkt2.us/TelrdNet> > > > *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] > *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett > *Sent:* Wednesday, December 10, 2014 8:26 AM > *To:* WISPA General List > *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Nokia achieves 4.2 Gbps LTE speeds using TDD > and FDD Carrier Aggregation #GettingCloserTo10G > > I know of eICIC. It's still increasing efficiency as you're now doing > this all in one channel everywhere vs. one channel per radio or a > couple channels per tower. > > That said, in unlicensed spectrum that is busy like 5 GHz or 2.4, > you're not going to use the same channel everywhere as it would be > impossible to do so due to external interferers. > > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > Image removed by sender. <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>Image removed > by sender. > <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>Image > removed by sender. > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>Image > removed > by sender. <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> > > -------------------------------- > > *From: *"Patrick Leary" > *To: *"WISPA General List" > *Sent: *Wednesday, December 10, 2014 7:22:36 AM > *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] Nokia achieves 4.2 Gbps LTE speeds using TDD > and FDD Carrier Aggregation #GettingCloserTo10G > > It is beyond basic concepts like increased efficiency. LTE goes much > further. See my last post. > > *Patrick Leary* > > *M*727.501.3735 > > <http://mkt2.us/TelrdNet> > > > *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] > *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett > *Sent:* Wednesday, December 10, 2014 7:41 AM > *To:* WISPA General List > *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Nokia achieves 4.2 Gbps LTE speeds using TDD > and FDD Carrier Aggregation #GettingCloserTo10G > > Why not allow both? > > I think every vendor is releasing equipment with better spectral > efficiency. > > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > Image removed by sender. <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>Image removed > by sender. > <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>Image > removed by sender. > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>Image > removed > by sender. <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> > > > > *From: *"daniel mullen" > *To: *"WISPA General List" > *Sent: *Wednesday, December 10, 2014 6:36:58 AM > *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] Nokia achieves 4.2 Gbps LTE speeds using TDD > and FDD Carrier Aggregation #GettingCloserTo10G > > It is a better idea we get higher throughput with better modulations > instead of simply grabbing larger pieces of spectrum. We cannot make > ever larger channel sizes without running into problems! > > > Daniel > > > Gino Villarini wrote .. > > How is that going to make a difference? > > > > > > > > Gino A. Villarini > > President > > Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. > > www.aeronetpr.com > > @aeronetpr > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 12/9/14, 11:11 PM, "daniel.mul...@metrocom.ca" > > wrote: > > > > >Using 200 MHz of bandwidth - just wait until Ubiquiti decides to do 10x > > >channel sizes! > > > > > >Daniel > > > > > >Gino Villarini wrote .. > > >> > > >> ow.ly/FBFcX > > >> > > >> > > >> Gino A. Villarini > >
Re: [WISPA] Nokia achieves 4.2 Gbps LTE speeds using TDD and FDD Carrier Aggregation #GettingCloserTo10G
will that spectrum be licensed? > Those are good points Mike, and it explains one reason I'm so excited > over 3.550-3.650 MHz. I think the coming spectrum is a game changer > for many reasons, this among them. > > *Patrick Leary* > > ***M*727.501.3735 > > <http://mkt2.us/TelrdNet> > > > *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] > *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett > *Sent:* Wednesday, December 10, 2014 8:26 AM > *To:* WISPA General List > *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Nokia achieves 4.2 Gbps LTE speeds using TDD > and FDD Carrier Aggregation #GettingCloserTo10G > > I know of eICIC. It's still increasing efficiency as you're now doing > this all in one channel everywhere vs. one channel per radio or a > couple channels per tower. > > That said, in unlicensed spectrum that is busy like 5 GHz or 2.4, > you're not going to use the same channel everywhere as it would be > impossible to do so due to external interferers. > > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > Image removed by sender. <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>Image removed > by sender. > <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>Image > removed by sender. > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>Image > removed > by sender. <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> > > -------------------- > > *From: *"Patrick Leary" > *To: *"WISPA General List" > *Sent: *Wednesday, December 10, 2014 7:22:36 AM > *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] Nokia achieves 4.2 Gbps LTE speeds using TDD > andFDDCarrier Aggregation #GettingCloserTo10G > > It is beyond basic concepts like increased efficiency. LTE goes much > further. See my last post. > > *Patrick Leary* > > *M*727.501.3735 > > <http://mkt2.us/TelrdNet> > > > *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] > *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett > *Sent:* Wednesday, December 10, 2014 7:41 AM > *To:* WISPA General List > *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Nokia achieves 4.2 Gbps LTE speeds using TDD > and FDD Carrier Aggregation #GettingCloserTo10G > > Why not allow both? > > I think every vendor is releasing equipment with better spectral > efficiency. > > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > Image removed by sender. <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>Image removed > by sender. > <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>Image > removed by sender. > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>Image > removed > by sender. <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> > > > > *From: *"daniel mullen" > *To: *"WISPA General List" > *Sent: *Wednesday, December 10, 2014 6:36:58 AM > *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] Nokia achieves 4.2 Gbps LTE speeds using TDD > and FDDCarrier Aggregation #GettingCloserTo10G > > It is a better idea we get higher throughput with better modulations > instead of simply grabbing larger pieces of spectrum. We cannot make > ever larger channel sizes without running into problems! > > > Daniel > > > Gino Villarini wrote .. > > How is that going to make a difference? > > > > > > > > Gino A. Villarini > > President > > Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. > > www.aeronetpr.com > > @aeronetpr > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 12/9/14, 11:11 PM, "daniel.mul...@metrocom.ca" > > wrote: > > > > >Using 200 MHz of bandwidth - just wait until Ubiquiti decides to do 10x > > >channel sizes! > > > > > >Daniel > > > > > >Gino Villarini wrote .. > > >> > > >> ow.ly/FBFcX > > >> > > >> > > >> Gino A. Villarini > > >> President > > >> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. > > >> www.aeronetpr.com > > >> @aeronetpr > > >> > > > > ___ > > Wireless mailing list > > Wireless@wispa.org > > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > ___ > Wireless mailing list > Wireless@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > > > > > *
Re: [WISPA] Nokia achieves 4.2 Gbps LTE speeds using TDD and FDD Carrier Aggregation #GettingCloserTo10G
Those are good points Mike, and it explains one reason I'm so excited over 3.550-3.650 MHz. I think the coming spectrum is a game changer for many reasons, this among them. Patrick Leary M 727.501.3735 [cid:image002.png@01D01459.A4C42FF0]<http://mkt2.us/TelrdNet> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 8:26 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nokia achieves 4.2 Gbps LTE speeds using TDD and FDD Carrier Aggregation #GettingCloserTo10G I know of eICIC. It's still increasing efficiency as you're now doing this all in one channel everywhere vs. one channel per radio or a couple channels per tower. That said, in unlicensed spectrum that is busy like 5 GHz or 2.4, you're not going to use the same channel everywhere as it would be impossible to do so due to external interferers. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com [Image removed by sender.]<https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>[Image removed by sender.]<https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>[Image removed by sender.]<https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>[Image removed by sender.]<https://twitter.com/ICSIL> From: "Patrick Leary" To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 7:22:36 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nokia achieves 4.2 Gbps LTE speeds using TDD and FDDCarrier Aggregation #GettingCloserTo10G It is beyond basic concepts like increased efficiency. LTE goes much further. See my last post. Patrick Leary M 727.501.3735 [cid:image004.png@01D01459.A4C42FF0]<http://mkt2.us/TelrdNet> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 7:41 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nokia achieves 4.2 Gbps LTE speeds using TDD and FDD Carrier Aggregation #GettingCloserTo10G Why not allow both? I think every vendor is releasing equipment with better spectral efficiency. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com [Image removed by sender.]<https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>[Image removed by sender.]<https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>[Image removed by sender.]<https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>[Image removed by sender.]<https://twitter.com/ICSIL> From: "daniel mullen" To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 6:36:58 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nokia achieves 4.2 Gbps LTE speeds using TDD and FDD Carrier Aggregation #GettingCloserTo10G It is a better idea we get higher throughput with better modulations instead of simply grabbing larger pieces of spectrum. We cannot make ever larger channel sizes without running into problems! Daniel Gino Villarini wrote .. > How is that going to make a difference? > > > > Gino A. Villarini > President > Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. > www.aeronetpr.com > @aeronetpr > > > > > > > On 12/9/14, 11:11 PM, "daniel.mul...@metrocom.ca" > wrote: > > >Using 200 MHz of bandwidth - just wait until Ubiquiti decides to do 10x > >channel sizes! > > > >Daniel > > > >Gino Villarini wrote .. > >> > >> ow.ly/FBFcX > >> > >> > >> Gino A. Villarini > >> President > >> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. > >> www.aeronetpr.com > >> @aeronetpr > >> > > ___ > Wireless mailing list > Wireless@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals & computer viruses. This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals & computer viruses. ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless This footnote confirm
Re: [WISPA] Nokia achieves 4.2 Gbps LTE speeds using TDD and FDD Carrier Aggregation #GettingCloserTo10G
I know of eICIC. It's still increasing efficiency as you're now doing this all in one channel everywhere vs. one channel per radio or a couple channels per tower. That said, in unlicensed spectrum that is busy like 5 GHz or 2.4, you're not going to use the same channel everywhere as it would be impossible to do so due to external interferers. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: "Patrick Leary" To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 7:22:36 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nokia achieves 4.2 Gbps LTE speeds using TDD and FDD Carrier Aggregation #GettingCloserTo10G It is beyond basic concepts like increased efficiency. LTE goes much further. See my last post. Patrick Leary M 727.501.3735 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 7:41 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nokia achieves 4.2 Gbps LTE speeds using TDD and FDD Carrier Aggregation #GettingCloserTo10G Why not allow both? I think every vendor is releasing equipment with better spectral efficiency. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Image removed by sender.Image removed by sender.Image removed by sender.Image removed by sender. - Original Message - From: "daniel mullen" To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 6:36:58 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nokia achieves 4.2 Gbps LTE speeds using TDD and FDD Carrier Aggregation #GettingCloserTo10G It is a better idea we get higher throughput with better modulations instead of simply grabbing larger pieces of spectrum. We cannot make ever larger channel sizes without running into problems! Daniel Gino Villarini wrote .. > How is that going to make a difference? > > > > Gino A. Villarini > President > Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. > www.aeronetpr.com > @aeronetpr > > > > > > > On 12/9/14, 11:11 PM, "daniel.mul...@metrocom.ca" > wrote: > > >Using 200 MHz of bandwidth - just wait until Ubiquiti decides to do 10x > >channel sizes! > > > >Daniel > > > >Gino Villarini wrote .. > >> > >> ow.ly/FBFcX > >> > >> > >> Gino A. Villarini > >> President > >> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. > >> www.aeronetpr.com > >> @aeronetpr > >> > > ___ > Wireless mailing list > Wireless@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals & computer viruses. This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals & computer viruses. ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Nokia achieves 4.2 Gbps LTE speeds using TDD and FDD Carrier Aggregation #GettingCloserTo10G
It is beyond basic concepts like increased efficiency. LTE goes much further. See my last post. Patrick Leary M 727.501.3735 [cid:image001.png@01D01452.28C223F0]<http://mkt2.us/TelrdNet> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 7:41 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nokia achieves 4.2 Gbps LTE speeds using TDD and FDD Carrier Aggregation #GettingCloserTo10G Why not allow both? I think every vendor is releasing equipment with better spectral efficiency. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com [Image removed by sender.]<https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>[Image removed by sender.]<https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>[Image removed by sender.]<https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>[Image removed by sender.]<https://twitter.com/ICSIL> From: "daniel mullen" To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 6:36:58 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nokia achieves 4.2 Gbps LTE speeds using TDD and FDD Carrier Aggregation #GettingCloserTo10G It is a better idea we get higher throughput with better modulations instead of simply grabbing larger pieces of spectrum. We cannot make ever larger channel sizes without running into problems! Daniel Gino Villarini wrote .. > How is that going to make a difference? > > > > Gino A. Villarini > President > Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. > www.aeronetpr.com > @aeronetpr > > > > > > > On 12/9/14, 11:11 PM, "daniel.mul...@metrocom.ca" > wrote: > > >Using 200 MHz of bandwidth - just wait until Ubiquiti decides to do 10x > >channel sizes! > > > >Daniel > > > >Gino Villarini wrote .. > >> > >> ow.ly/FBFcX > >> > >> > >> Gino A. Villarini > >> President > >> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. > >> www.aeronetpr.com > >> @aeronetpr > >> > > ___ > Wireless mailing list > Wireless@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals & computer viruses. This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals & computer viruses. ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Nokia achieves 4.2 Gbps LTE speeds using TDD and FDD Carrier Aggregation #GettingCloserTo10G
While I understand the joke here, please be aware that LTE is designed to use the same channels even in adjacent cells using eICIC (enhanced inter-cell interference coordination) http://4g-lte-world.blogspot.com/2012/06/icic-and-eicic.html This does two HUGE things: 1. No more cell planning for interference. 2. Massive capacities ARE possible in scale because you can re-use the same frequencies over and over. Coupled with SON and cloud RAN, and imagine how simple life becomes. Aggregate two 20 MHz carriers to generate 400 mbps and use those same freqs over and over, selling 100 mbps service all day long, while the system continuously and dynamically manages it all on its own. I know it may sound like magic, but read the material. I can tell you it is LTE features like this that is helping to drive our momentum among WISPs. Patrick Leary M 727.501.3735 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of daniel.mul...@metrocom.ca Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 10:11 PM To: WISPA General List Cc: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nokia achieves 4.2 Gbps LTE speeds using TDD and FDD Carrier Aggregation #GettingCloserTo10G Using 200 MHz of bandwidth - just wait until Ubiquiti decides to do 10x channel sizes! Daniel Gino Villarini wrote .. > > ow.ly/FBFcX > > > Gino A. Villarini > President > Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. > www.aeronetpr.com > @aeronetpr > This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals & computer viruses. This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals & computer viruses. ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Nokia achieves 4.2 Gbps LTE speeds using TDD and FDD Carrier Aggregation #GettingCloserTo10G
Why not allow both? I think every vendor is releasing equipment with better spectral efficiency. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: "daniel mullen" To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 6:36:58 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nokia achieves 4.2 Gbps LTE speeds using TDD and FDD Carrier Aggregation #GettingCloserTo10G It is a better idea we get higher throughput with better modulations instead of simply grabbing larger pieces of spectrum. We cannot make ever larger channel sizes without running into problems! Daniel Gino Villarini wrote .. > How is that going to make a difference? > > > > Gino A. Villarini > President > Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. > www.aeronetpr.com > @aeronetpr > > > > > > > On 12/9/14, 11:11 PM, "daniel.mul...@metrocom.ca" > wrote: > > >Using 200 MHz of bandwidth - just wait until Ubiquiti decides to do 10x > >channel sizes! > > > >Daniel > > > >Gino Villarini wrote .. > >> > >> ow.ly/FBFcX > >> > >> > >> Gino A. Villarini > >> President > >> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. > >> www.aeronetpr.com > >> @aeronetpr > >> > > ___ > Wireless mailing list > Wireless@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Nokia achieves 4.2 Gbps LTE speeds using TDD and FDD Carrier Aggregation #GettingCloserTo10G
It is a better idea we get higher throughput with better modulations instead of simply grabbing larger pieces of spectrum. We cannot make ever larger channel sizes without running into problems! Daniel Gino Villarini wrote .. > How is that going to make a difference? > > > > Gino A. Villarini > President > Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. > www.aeronetpr.com > @aeronetpr > > > > > > > On 12/9/14, 11:11 PM, "daniel.mul...@metrocom.ca" > wrote: > > >Using 200 MHz of bandwidth - just wait until Ubiquiti decides to do 10x > >channel sizes! > > > >Daniel > > > >Gino Villarini wrote .. > >> > >> ow.ly/FBFcX > >> > >> > >> Gino A. Villarini > >> President > >> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. > >> www.aeronetpr.com > >> @aeronetpr > >> > > ___ > Wireless mailing list > Wireless@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Nokia achieves 4.2 Gbps LTE speeds using TDD and FDD Carrier Aggregation #GettingCloserTo10G
How is that going to make a difference? Gino A. Villarini President Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. www.aeronetpr.com @aeronetpr On 12/9/14, 11:11 PM, "daniel.mul...@metrocom.ca" wrote: >Using 200 MHz of bandwidth - just wait until Ubiquiti decides to do 10x >channel sizes! > >Daniel > >Gino Villarini wrote .. >> >> ow.ly/FBFcX >> >> >> Gino A. Villarini >> President >> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. >> www.aeronetpr.com >> @aeronetpr >> ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Nokia achieves 4.2 Gbps LTE speeds using TDD and FDD Carrier Aggregation #GettingCloserTo10G
Using 200 MHz of bandwidth - just wait until Ubiquiti decides to do 10x channel sizes! Daniel Gino Villarini wrote .. > > ow.ly/FBFcX > > > Gino A. Villarini > President > Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. > www.aeronetpr.com > @aeronetpr > ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Nokia achieves 4.2 Gbps LTE speeds using TDD and FDD Carrier Aggregation #GettingCloserTo10G
Hey where's my TDWR picture? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 9, 2014 10:18 AM, "Gino Villarini" wrote: > Lol copy from my hootsuite > > > > Gino A. Villarini > President > Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. > www.aeronetpr.com > @aeronetpr > > > > From: Josh Luthman > Reply-To: WISPA General List > Date: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 at 11:13 AM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nokia achieves 4.2 Gbps LTE speeds using TDD and FDD > Carrier Aggregation #GettingCloserTo10G > > Hash tag in an email subject? Sigh. > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > On Dec 9, 2014 10:11 AM, "Gino Villarini" wrote: > >> >> ow.ly/FBFcX >> >> >> Gino A. Villarini >> President >> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. >> www.aeronetpr.com >> @aeronetpr >> >> >> >> ___ >> Wireless mailing list >> Wireless@wispa.org >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> > ___ > Wireless mailing list > Wireless@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Nokia achieves 4.2 Gbps LTE speeds using TDD and FDD Carrier Aggregation #GettingCloserTo10G
Lol copy from my hootsuite Gino A. Villarini President Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. www.aeronetpr.com @aeronetpr From: Josh Luthman mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>> Reply-To: WISPA General List mailto:wireless@wispa.org>> Date: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 at 11:13 AM To: WISPA General List mailto:wireless@wispa.org>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nokia achieves 4.2 Gbps LTE speeds using TDD and FDD Carrier Aggregation #GettingCloserTo10G Hash tag in an email subject? Sigh. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 9, 2014 10:11 AM, "Gino Villarini" mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com>> wrote: ow.ly/FBFcX<http://ow.ly/FBFcX> Gino A. Villarini President Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. www.aeronetpr.com<http://www.aeronetpr.com> @aeronetpr ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org<mailto:Wireless@wispa.org> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Nokia achieves 4.2 Gbps LTE speeds using TDD and FDD Carrier Aggregation #GettingCloserTo10G
Hash tag in an email subject? Sigh. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 9, 2014 10:11 AM, "Gino Villarini" wrote: > > ow.ly/FBFcX > > > Gino A. Villarini > President > Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. > www.aeronetpr.com > @aeronetpr > > > > ___ > Wireless mailing list > Wireless@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
[WISPA] Nokia achieves 4.2 Gbps LTE speeds using TDD and FDD Carrier Aggregation #GettingCloserTo10G
ow.ly/FBFcX Gino A. Villarini President Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. www.aeronetpr.com @aeronetpr ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
