Yep, they are now going to actively work to put us out of business.
Gotta love it.
marlon
- Original Message -
From: Marco Coelho coelh...@gmail.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2010 7:25 AM
Subject: [WISPA] USF Changes
FCC to propose revamping
Philip,
I don't know if you are being serious or sarcastic with your comment to
"vote them out of life" but IMO your comment is both ridiculous and
irresponsible. I ask that you try to contribute in a more responsible
fashion to this list.
jack
Philip Dorr wrote:
On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at
My brother got on my email! I need to log out/lock the computer when
I step away.
On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 12:24 PM, Jack Unger jun...@ask-wi.com wrote:
Philip,
I don't know if you are being serious or sarcastic with your comment to
vote them out of life but IMO your comment is both ridiculous
Chuck, thats still a tax.
On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 5:33 PM, Chuck Bartosch ch...@clarityconnect.com wrote:
On Mar 6, 2010, at 2:50 PM, RickG wrote:
As a WISP, I resent the idea that my tax dollars may be used to compete with
me.
As a taxpayer, at what point will the government realize we
]on
Behalf Of RickG
Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2010 2:50 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] USF Changes
As a WISP, I resent the idea that my tax dollars may be used to compete with
me.
As a taxpayer, at what point will the government realize we cant
afford all this?
-RickG
...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]on
Behalf Of RickG
Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2010 2:50 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] USF Changes
As a WISP, I resent the idea that my tax dollars may be used to compete with
me.
As a taxpayer, at what point will the government realize we
: [WISPA] USF Changes
As a WISP, I resent the idea that my tax dollars may be used to compete with
me.
As a taxpayer, at what point will the government realize we cant
afford all this?
-RickG
On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 10:25 AM, Marco Coelho coelh...@gmail.com wrote:
FCC to propose revamping
FCC to propose revamping Universal Service Fund
AP
By JOELLE TESSLER, AP Technology Writer Joelle Tessler, Ap Technology
Writer – Fri Mar 5, 5:25 pm ET
WASHINGTON – Federal regulators trying to bring high-speed Internet
connections to all Americans will propose tapping the government
program
to receive the USF funds, guess who is going to get that? Certainly
not the WISP's.
Brian
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]on
Behalf Of Marco Coelho
Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2010 10:26 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] USF
Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2010 10:26 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] USF Changes
FCC to propose revamping Universal Service Fund
AP
By JOELLE TESSLER, AP Technology Writer Joelle Tessler, Ap Technology
Writer – Fri Mar 5, 5:25 pm ET
WASHINGTON – Federal regulators trying
As a WISP, I resent the idea that my tax dollars may be used to compete with me.
As a taxpayer, at what point will the government realize we cant
afford all this?
-RickG
On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 10:25 AM, Marco Coelho coelh...@gmail.com wrote:
FCC to propose revamping Universal Service Fund
AP
Exactly.
-- Original Message --
From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com
Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 14:50:17 -0500
As a WISP, I resent the idea that my tax dollars may be used to compete with
me.
As a taxpayer, at what
On Mar 6, 2010, at 2:50 PM, RickG wrote:
As a WISP, I resent the idea that my tax dollars may be used to compete with
me.
As a taxpayer, at what point will the government realize we cant
afford all this?
Ah, but we CAN afford it. It doesn't come from general tax funds but from the
taxes
And to add, I thought the Broadband Stimulus was to make more broadband
available. The telco's have everything already handed to them and have not done
it in years. Now the gov't wants to make this available only to one provider in
a given area? Who do you think will get that? WTH? I think we
But USF comes from the ratepayers of the telecom services, not tax dollars.
Brian
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]on
Behalf Of RickG
Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2010 2:50 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] USF Changes
On Mar 6, 2010, at 8:38 PM, Scottie Arnett wrote:
And to add, I thought the Broadband Stimulus was to make more broadband
available. The telco's have everything already handed to them and have not
done it in years. Now the gov't wants to make this available only to one
provider in a
On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 8:09 PM, Chuck Bartosch ch...@clarityconnect.com wrote:
On Mar 6, 2010, at 8:38 PM, Scottie Arnett wrote:
And to add, I thought the Broadband Stimulus was to make more broadband
available. The telco's have everything already handed to them and have not
done it in
General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] USF changes?
Mark, we've been through all of this before.
You are RIGHT in that it's non of the government's business. This is
also
NOT their problem.
But the fact that you and I (and probably most people here) think that
doesn't change
: [WISPA] USF changes?
I cannot believe this.
WISPA has sold it's soul to the devil, and is now preaching the message.
There is NO SUCH DAMN THING AS FREE MONEY.
Taking it WILL result in the feds coming and directing your business,
controlling every aspect.Have you seen the news about
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
--
From: Brian Webster bwebs...@wirelessmapping.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 12:42 PM
To: sarn...@info-ed.com; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] USF changes
: Re: [WISPA] USF changes?
Mark, we've been through all of this before.
You are RIGHT in that it's non of the government's business. This is also
NOT their problem.
But the fact that you and I (and probably most people here) think that
doesn't change the facts. Just because you wish your
, November 14, 2009 10:10 AM
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Cc: WISPA Board Members List bo...@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] USF changes?
Brian could not have said this better.
We have GOT to file the 477's these days. Yes it's non of the
government's
business. But they WILL act on what
-
From: Brian Webster bwebs...@wirelessmapping.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 11:28 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] USF changes?
The problem as I see it is that we are arguing the chicken and the
egg.
While I understand why a WISP would
Subject: Re: [WISPA] USF changes?
Yes, they do understand it. You're not understanding the point.The
telcos have big bucks to lobby with, and benefit the regulators. We do
not.Thus, we will NEVER be on their list.We cannot get onto the
top of the rolodex until we have millions
And they forgot all about the other ISP's out there. They are leaving it up to
the telcos to supply the demand! Do they(The FCC) not understand that other
companies besides the telcos and cable companies offer Internet access?
Scott
-- Original Message
The FCC understands it very well. The problem is that WISP's are not well
known as far as where, how many, and what speeds they serve..ever wonder
why they have been pushing the Form 477? This yet another example of how
trying to stay under the Radar is going to come back and bite the industry
- Original Message -
From: Brian Webster bwebs...@wirelessmapping.com
To: sarn...@info-ed.com; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 1:42 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] USF changes?
The FCC understands it very well. The problem is that WISP's are not well
known
, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
- Original Message -
From: Brian Webster bwebs...@wirelessmapping.com
To: sarn...@info-ed.com; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 1:42 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] USF changes?
The FCC understands it very
: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 1:42 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] USF changes?
The FCC understands it very well. The problem is that WISP's are not
well
known as far as where, how many, and what speeds they serve..ever
wonder
why they have been pushing the Form 477? This yet another example
it wrought.
Ok, enough. I'm angry now and starting to get worked up.
--
From: Scottie Arnett sarn...@info-ed.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 8:55 AM
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] USF changes
to the office, I'll dig
up more detail on the project and forward along.
Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone with Nextel Direct Connect
-Original Message-
From: MDK rea...@muddyfrogwater.us
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 17:35:55
To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] USF changes
I hate to say this but I agree.
MDK wrote:
Yes, they do understand it. You're not understanding the point.The
telcos have big bucks to lobby with, and benefit the regulators. We do
not.Thus, we will NEVER be on their list.We cannot get onto the
top of the rolodex until we
...@muddyfrogwater.us
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 8:35 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] USF changes?
Yes, they do understand it. You're not understanding the point.The
telcos have big bucks to lobby with, and benefit the regulators. We do
...@gmail.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 11:49 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] USF changes?
Warning: The bill also drew early praise from ATT
On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 9:10 PM, Blair Davis the...@wmwisp.net wrote:
http://www.internetnews.com/infra/article.php
http://www.internetnews.com/infra/article.php/3847366/Lawmakers+Float+Bill+to+Boost+Rural+Broadband.htm
I'm not sure I need any more gov. interference!
WISPA Wants You! Join today!
http://signup.wispa.org/
Warning: The bill also drew early praise from ATT
On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 9:10 PM, Blair Davis the...@wmwisp.net wrote:
http://www.internetnews.com/infra/article.php/3847366/Lawmakers+Float+Bill+to+Boost+Rural+Broadband.htm
I'm not sure I need any more gov. interference!
So it got broke up and competition was supposed to flourish etc etc. They
are still experimenting. Part of the problem is that the S in USF is still
defined as POTS on copper. Our company is personally sponsoring a bill in
our legislature that expands that to broadband.
Look for an FCC
too much
you will see ripples throughout the whole telecommunications industry.
- Original Message -
From: Matt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Friday, October 10, 2008 8:20 PM
Subject: [WISPA] USF Changes
So it got broke up and competition
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