uch a nasty thing to do to the
> users. Gr. Not an easy fix.
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> Ryan
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nasty thing to do to the users. Gr. Not an easy fix.
Ryan
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. Not an easy fix.
Ryan
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I’ll also add that identity is what makes
11:00
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We could always take down a device by MAC address. It was weak, but it allowed
us to say we did something.
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, but
that is such a nasty thing to do to the users. Gr. Not an easy fix.
Ryan
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On Aug 6, 2020, at 09:51, Enfield, Chuck
mailto:cae...@psu.edu>> wrote:
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nfield, Chuck
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External Email
There are identity requests, and take downs. Identity requests are frequent
and come with little to know liability.
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On Aug 6, 2020, at 09:51, Enfield, Chuck
mailto:cae...@psu.edu>> wrote:
How can we fulfill DMCA requirements when we can’t even identify a device, let
alone the user? If you want to remain anonymous, use a dif
On Aug 6, 2020, at 09:51, Enfield, Chuck
mailto:cae...@psu.edu>> wrote:
How can we fulfill DMCA requirements when we can’t even identify a device, let
alone the user? If you want to remain anonymous, use a different network.
IANAL, and I don’t even play one on TV, but my admittedly old
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Nope. MAC addr is still the same. This is day 2. I’ve been associated to the
same AP.
Hector Rios, Wireless Network Architect
The University of Texas at Austin
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It should change the next time it associates.
Sent from my iPhone
On Jul 30, 2020, at 1:02 PM, GT Hill mailto:g...@gthill.com>>
wrote:
From what I understand it will keep the same MAC
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> Ahh. I glossed right o
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Ahh. I glossed right over the 24-hour part. That’s much less distressing, but
I’m going to have a beer
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Date: Tuesday, July 21, 2020 at 6:23 PM
To: "WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU"
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I’m working on testing this now.
So far it appears that the "Private Address" option is enabled by default for
any
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This is all fascinating, I’m looking forward to getting my hands on a public
beta.
Those “in the know” ... does this impact 1x networks
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> Yeah, good catch Chris! I’d be interested in seeing some field data as
> w
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Yeah, good catch Chris! I’d be interested in seeing some field data as well.
The only info I saw was that it changed every 24 hours, but it sounds like
connection as there are really no privacy concerns until the device
disconnects and moves.
tim
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gt;>
On Behalf Of Rios, Hector J
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Please note that MAC randomization is not just a feature of Android and iO
no other vested interest in the topic.
Tim
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On 21/7/20 11:04 am, Tim Cappalli wrote:
> Both major Wi-Fi vendors have Passpoint offerings that are either
> available or in preview.
I'm talking about the client side. Intune doesn't even have a CA either
(no the short-lived one for conditional access doesn't count). Where's
the Microsoft
Both major Wi-Fi vendors have Passpoint offerings that are either available or
in preview.
Tim
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On 21/7/20 5:21 am, Tim Cappalli wrote:
> Passpoint solves all of these issues.
Where is the vendor support for it? Autopilot white glove doesn't even
support wireless networks at all.
--
James Andrewartha
Network & Projects Engineer
Christ Church Grammar School
Claremont, Western Australia
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For .1x connections, per device certs seems to be th
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True, but default behavior matters.
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Please note that MAC
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For those of us using ClearPass to authenticate users to eduroam, does this
mean that every iOS device will get registered as a new endpoint every day
: Tuesday, July 14, 2020 at 12:31
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Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] MAC Randomization, a step further...
For those of us using ClearPass to authenticate users to eduroam, does this
mean that every iOS device will get registered as a new endpoint every day
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But why would that change anything? A user on campus for a football game is
there for less than 24 hours. The MAC address changes per ESSID, every 24
hours. I don’t understand what changes here for that use case?
It really only impacts
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Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] MAC Randomization, a step further...
Tim,
With Covid, any lease time would not be an issue. But how big were your home
football events / tailgate parties / parent weekends at Brandeis? I’m focusing
more on the impact of those events
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Agreed on IPv6, but even for IPv4, I imagine most folks are running short
leases
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Agreed on IPv6, but even for IPv4
10, 2020 at 16:51
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Maybe a good use case for IPv6
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We’re all going to need to check the TTL on DHCP leases… some of our scopes
will get eaten alive otherwise.
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Uhg. Didn’t even think about that.
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We’re all going to need to check
y 10, 2020 at 3:42 PM
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Thanks Tim. I just started a conversation with my SE.
Brad
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That’s not what our guest network is for.
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This approach
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