Scott Reed wrote:
Does anyone have a easy, inexpensive way to test a link before a tower
is built? RadioMobile link analysis says I can get backhaul to the
potential location, but in my area trees are always a challenge. I
would like to test it now, while the trees are full, before I
I used to use those 7 ft. helium balloons as advertising when I had another
business years ago. They had pretty good lift! Sounds like a good idea.
Not sure how you could test a full speed link with a dish but an Omni could
be put on it with a Mikrotik 411 board. Then you could use cat5 riser
Answer, directly from from Shireen Inc...
Faisal Imtiaz
Computer Office Solutions Inc. /SnappyDSL.net
Ph: (305) 663-5518 x 232
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From: Nusrat Jamal [mailto:nja...@shireeninc.com]
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 6:44 AM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] POE Switch box
Faisal Bhai,
We have used them for several projects. I have also used local Hot Air
Balloon firms with their tether system when I had to place heavier equipment
at a specific height for a short period of time.
Aaron D. Osgood
Streamline Solutions L.L.C
P.O. Box 6115
Falmouth, ME 04105
TEL: 207-781-5561
What happens to the data? Goes to one port? Both (dumb hub)? None ?
Gino A. Villarini
g...@aeronetpr.com
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145
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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Faisal
What are you putting on the smaller ones to test the link?
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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Aaron D. Osgood
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 10:14 AM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Verify Link Analysis
We
I have a 10'red balloon that we used to float a few years back for tower
siting purposes.
I wasn't able get too much equipment on that balloon and expect it to float.
I tried it with an old map2 with rubber ducky and cat5 as the line and
the balloon had a hard time rising.
The calculation is
GAB - Great American Broadband
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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of George Rogato
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 9:31 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Verify Link Analysis
Scott Reed wrote:
Does anyone have a
I guess there are always exception to the rule.. .Extra port is a
convienience , may not be applicable in all senarios.
Besides, one would have to worry about power consumed in total, standard
802.3af puts out about 15-20w only..
Faisal Imtiaz
Computer Office Solutions Inc. /SnappyDSL.net
Ph:
Yes Scott Reed personally operates a small WISP as well he does Engineer and
Programming with Great American Broadband.
Steve Barnes
RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service
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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf
Of Eric Rogers
Sent:
Matt,
Congradulation on Rapidlink's victory gaining grant assistance from CASF.
That was clearly a big win, but also clearly positions you for an ARRA
award.
Clearly a victory that some government bodies are recognizing WISP provers.
(Even if they are a publically traded company :-)
advanced
Yep, that would be me. My WISP is NewWays.
Steve Barnes wrote:
Yes Scott Reed personally operates a small WISP as well he does Engineer and
Programming with Great American Broadband.
Steve Barnes
RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service
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From:
I have a few used TR-5800s that I do not know the IP address so. Any
tricks to locating it? The MAC address is worn off the back label, and
sniffing the wire reveals no activity (should it?).
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IIRC Tranzeo has a cdp utility on it - and a mac finding tool.
Not sure if one of these would work as that model isn't listed...
http://support.tranzeo.com/files.php?utilities
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
When you have
Do a broadcast ping with something plugged straight into it?
Josh Luthman wrote:
IIRC Tranzeo has a cdp utility on it - and a mac finding tool.
Not sure if one of these would work as that model isn't listed...
http://support.tranzeo.com/files.php?utilities
Josh Luthman
Office:
Ooh good idea - you can use a MT to do an ip-scan
If it wants to look for snmp, Internet, DNS, etc it will ARP request for the
gateway - see if a packet capture shows this request.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
When you have
You may want to check with Comsearch as they do the frequency coordination for
most of these guys. They can probably point you in the right direction.
www.comsearch.com
David Rumore
Territory Manager
Phone: +1 561.741.0756 Fax: +1 561.741.1561 Mobile: 561.254.0758
e-mail:
Run wireshark, plug the radio in question up to your computer. Power cycle the
radio and it should give up it's IP address after it powers back up. I use this
method on a lot of different radios.
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From: Charles Wyble char...@thewybles.com
To: WISPA General List
Are these TR-5800's or the older ZX-5800's from Tranzeo
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From: Jeremy Parr jeremyp...@gmail.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 11:08:57 AM
Subject: [WISPA] Tranzeo TR-5800 Access
I have a few used TR-5800s that I do not know
Run wireshark, plug the radio in question up to your computer. Power cycle
the radio and it should give up it's IP address after it powers back up. I
use this method on a lot of different radios.
I have tried this dozens, maybe hundreds of times with NO luck =(
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
TR5821 units, and sniffing with wireshark revealed nothing. They don't
seem to speak until spoken to.
On 7/17/09, Joe Miller joemiller...@yahoo.com wrote:
Are these TR-5800's or the older ZX-5800's from Tranzeo
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On Jul 17, 2009, at 11:09 AM, Tom DeReggi wrote:
Clearly a victory that some government bodies are recognizing WISP
provers.
(Even if they are a publically traded company :-)
Just to clarify... We partnered with a local operator named Mother
Lode Internet. The local operator will focus
These things don't have a console port?
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I apologize as I know this has been discussed on the list before. We
are entertaining the idea of selling out of our respectable size
wireless ISP business in eastern Oklahoma. We have about 500 (growing
daily) subscribers. Anyway, we are working on determining the net worth
of the business.
One way I have heard it done:
Take the annual gross revenue, times it by 3 (three years gross revenue) and
that's the buy out cost starting point. Seen this more so with telecom
(voice) then data services, but it's a place to start.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100
I also wanted to throw this in..
If the owner does not have the resources to operate and maintain the
customers (there for the revenue) then one can offer the price it would cost
for that owner to remove the equipment from the towers (where leasing) and
sell the towers and cut their losses. Or
I have heard .5-2 times annual many times on this list
Josh Luthman wrote:
One way I have heard it done:
Take the annual gross revenue, times it by 3 (three years gross revenue) and
that's the buy out cost starting point. Seen this more so with telecom
(voice) then data services,
I would certainly map out your network and show the total number of
households able to be reached, not just base it on the number of subscribers
you have. I know someone who can do that type of work :-) But not until
after August 14th.
Thank You,
Brian Webster
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3x gross annual was a very nice number... but not realistic any longer.
1.5x is the last number I heard for an actual sale that went through.
Travis
Josh Luthman wrote:
One way I have heard it done:
Take the annual gross revenue, times it by 3 (three years gross revenue) and
that's the
ROFL ... NTIA got you all tied up ? :)
Brian Webster wrote:
I would certainly map out your network and show the total number of
households able to be reached, not just base it on the number of subscribers
you have. I know someone who can do that type of work :-) But not until
after August
Revenue matters a lot less now. Earnings-based deals are what are
being done now. Of course, many WISPs are spending all of their
earnings on CAPEX. This is where capitalized leases play such a
critical role.
-Matt
On Jul 17, 2009, at 3:57 PM, Travis Johnson wrote:
3x gross annual was a
No, actually we were awarded a RUS grant back in 2006 and we've completed that
project. We're just tired out, and ready for a change. :-)
Patrick Nix, Jr.,
Computer Network Solutions
CSWEB.NET Internet Services
IT Manager
http://www.cnetworksolutions.com
http://www.csweb.net
(918) 235-0414
Actually that was addressed to Brian. :)
But I hear ya. :)
Patrick D. Nix, Jr wrote:
No, actually we were awarded a RUS grant back in 2006 and we've completed
that project. We're just tired out, and ready for a change. :-)
Patrick Nix, Jr.,
Computer Network Solutions
CSWEB.NET Internet
Yeah don't expect over 2x annual revenue right now. 1x might be more
realistic. depending on the network and what a new operator would have to do
to bring it into theirs, etc.
Daniel White
3-dB Networks
http://www.3dbnetworks.com
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org
More than you could imagine :-) Sleep is a luxury right now. If things go
according to plan I will have the National Broadband map done in the next 20
days..at a fraction of the $350 million dollars.
Thank You,
Brian Webster
214 Eggleston Hill Rd.
Cooperstown, NY 13326
(607) 643-4055 Office
I'd point out that the best time to get a high valuation in a rural area is
not likely going to be at the launch of a $7billion dollar grant program.
Why buy other's outdated equipment when you can get the brand new state of
the art for FREE? You are probably going to have to rely more on cash
I disagree with comments relating to X times annual revenue.
I think the issue is more that buyers are realizing that in this market and
economy X times revenue doesn't adequately valuate a company.
A 3-4X times annual could still be achieved if the most of the gross revenue
was actually monthly
Well if you look at net profit that would show you are profitable,
making payroll, etc and show growth, correct?
On 7/17/09, Tom DeReggi wirelessn...@rapiddsl.net wrote:
I disagree with comments relating to X times annual revenue.
I think the issue is more that buyers are realizing that in this
2009/7/17 Jeremy Parr jeremyp...@gmail.com:
I have a few used TR-5800s that I do not know the IP address so. Any
tricks to locating it? The MAC address is worn off the back label, and
sniffing the wire reveals no activity (should it?).
Ok, I got these things reset. All four units responded on
Patent and sell it at $100 a piece!
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
improbable, must be the truth.
--- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle
On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 5:37 PM,
So it would seem, but that is not the case. There are plenty of
companies looking to acquire operators right now that are EBITDA
positive. Unfortunately, too many operators that would normally be
interested in a deal are hoping for a windfall thanks to ARRA. This
means that the supply of
I was wondering if anyone has setup a Mikrotik Dual Nstreme link using
the Ubiquiti XR3 (3.65GHz) cards?
I have a PTP link setup currently with these XR3 cards and I'm getting
about 21Mbps in each direction with TCP and about 29Mbps with UDP. I was
wondering kind of increased performance will
Tom at Roc Noc has a backhaul with one.
Don't use dual nstreme - use ospf to bridge the two.
On 7/17/09, my_em...@webjogger.net my_em...@webjogger.net wrote:
I was wondering if anyone has setup a Mikrotik Dual Nstreme link using
the Ubiquiti XR3 (3.65GHz) cards?
I have a PTP link setup
What kind of channels size are you goiNg to use?
Sent from my Motorola Startac...
On Jul 17, 2009, at 6:15 PM, Josh Luthman
j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:
Tom at Roc Noc has a backhaul with one.
Don't use dual nstreme - use ospf to bridge the two.
On 7/17/09, my_em...@webjogger.net
You don't have enough spectrum to do that.
/Eje
Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile
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From: my_em...@webjogger.net my_em...@webjogger.net
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 18:08:16
To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Dual Nstreme using XR3
I was
There is only room for a single 20mhz channel using 3.65ghz. About
30Mbps is the max you are going to get.
Travis
Microserv
my_em...@webjogger.net wrote:
I was wondering if anyone has setup a Mikrotik Dual Nstreme link using
the Ubiquiti XR3 (3.65GHz) cards?
I have a PTP link setup
Hi All!
I've been lurking a while on the list, and knew some of you at last
chat session.
My solution of choice for this is using OSPF with unqueal costs,
inverted on RX and TX:
cost 1 - cost 2
cost 2 - cost 1
This will achieve a high real word throughput because TCP traffic
generates the
Exactly how precise do the bends have to be in that tool in order for it to
work? :)
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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Jeremy Parr
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 5:38 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo
See if they will do a distribution deal. :)
Josh Luthman wrote:
Patent and sell it at $100 a piece!
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
improbable, must be
Since we are already a
regulated telecommunications provider in all 48 states,
The first thing that came to my mind was that Aflac commercial where the old
guy in the barber's chair says that cash is almost as good as money. Then
the duck's mouth drops open and he walks out of the shop
Jeremy,
Do you have accompanying documentation, I've got a few dead ones I'd
like to see about resurrecting.
Regards
Michael Baird
2009/7/17 Jeremy Parr jeremyp...@gmail.com:
I have a few used TR-5800s that I do not know the IP address so. Any
tricks to locating it? The MAC address is
I think it really needs to tie into the net you've seen (if any).
1 to 1.5 annual revenue seems to hold up pretty well. More if you have a
great customer base (lots of high dollar businesses) vs. the average (mix of
business but mostly resi).
It's a business like most any other as far as
2009/7/17 Michael Baird m...@tc3net.com:
Jeremy,
Do you have accompanying documentation, I've got a few dead ones I'd
like to see about resurrecting.
Drill the hole in the location shown, and feel around for the reset
switch. Power on while holding the reset button. I gave it 15 seconds.
That old guy is Yogi Berra...
Jeff
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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 6:44 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Rapid Link Awarded Approximately $2.8
Interesting perspective, Matt.
Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
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From: Matt Liotta mlio...@r337.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 5:42 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Question re: WISP for sale
In addition, tower rights (or lack thereof) is a big consideration.
-RickG
On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 5:15 PM, Tom DeReggiwirelessn...@rapiddsl.net wrote:
I disagree with comments relating to X times annual revenue.
I think the issue is more that buyers are realizing that in this market and
On Jul 17, 2009, at 2:06 PM, Matt Liotta wrote:
On Jul 17, 2009, at 11:09 AM, Tom DeReggi wrote:
Clearly a victory that some government bodies are recognizing WISP
provers.
(Even if they are a publically traded company :-)
Just to clarify... We partnered with a local operator named
On Jul 17, 2009, at 9:09 PM, Chuck Bartosch wrote:
Isn't Ben a WISPA member? I thought he'd told me two ISPCons ago he
was going to join...
Not that I am aware.
-Matt
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Which makes an interesting dilemma: 1 20 MHz channel versus 2 10 MHz
channels, TDD x FDD.
My guess: TDD wil work better for short distances due to ACK timing,
FDD for larger distance will perform better, but this is strongly
traffic pattern dependent.
Rubens
On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 7:24 PM,
I have a 73 mile link using Mikrotik with SR5 cards using a 20mhz
channel. I can get 26Mbps (compared with 30Mbps on a 10 mile link).
A single 20mhz channel is much easier to setup, troubleshoot, etc.
Travis
Microserv
Rubens Kuhl wrote:
Which makes an interesting dilemma: 1 20 MHz
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