[WISPA] TrangoLink45 Link Problem

2010-01-08 Thread Scott Reed
I have a 2 mile link with TrangoLink45's. Clear line of sight. The MU transmits at 54Mbps all the time. The RU drops to 12Mbps within about 2 minutes of setting it to 54. This morning we tried 6 or 7 different channels. All had the same RSSI of -61 or -62. All behaved the same way. What else

Re: [WISPA] TrangoLink45 Link Problem

2010-01-08 Thread Brad Belton
Only a -61 at 2 miles? What antennas and at what power level? Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Scott Reed Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 8:14 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] TrangoLink45 Link Problem I

Re: [WISPA] TrangoLink45 Link Problem

2010-01-08 Thread Scott Reed
Auto power adjust is set to -60, I think, so it is right on. Brad Belton wrote: Only a -61 at 2 miles? What antennas and at what power level? Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Scott Reed Sent: Friday,

Re: [WISPA] TrangoLink45 Link Problem

2010-01-08 Thread Brad Belton
Ok, that makes more sense. Do you have a spare link to swap in place? I'm not leaning towards interference if you've tried several different channels all with the same result. It's been a long time since I've used an UL Trango PtP, so maybe someone here a little more fresh with the gear will

Re: [WISPA] OT - Glad I Didn't Buy an iPhone

2010-01-08 Thread jp
I can make change by either math or the count to 100 method, but I'll stick up for the guy a little bit. After taking 5 calculus classes, differential equations, discrete mathematics, and algorithms, my ability to do simple addition and subtraction was permanently impaired. I studied CS

Re: [WISPA] StarOS Operator gets Stimulus Funding

2010-01-08 Thread jp
I think it's probably a case of the ISP wanting to get it feet wet and prove itself. The'll do it right, get some press, and apply for a bigger project in another round. On Thu, Jan 07, 2010 at 11:12:33PM -0500, Tom DeReggi wrote: Yes, that is a very good point. BUT... He can use the profit

Re: [WISPA] StarOS Operator gets Stimulus Funding

2010-01-08 Thread Brad Belton
I'm not speaking for Travis, but I agree with him. So, in a word, yes, you don't have a right to be in business. You don't have a right to a loan. You don't have a right to put taxpayer money at risk so that you can make a go of your business venture. Instead you do have the right to work hard

Re: [WISPA] TrangoLink45 Link Problem

2010-01-08 Thread Jerry Richardson
Did you try any of the 5.2 channels? I have an 11mi link where the su modulates down to 24mbps looking up at the tower. Switched to 5300 and even with the reduction of power, it will modulate at 36mbps. At two miles I would think you would see similar or better results Sent Mobile Jerry

Re: [WISPA] TrangoLink45 Link Problem

2010-01-08 Thread Tom DeReggi
Scott, You are doing the right thing targetting a -60 rssi. We design most of our TLINKs to operate there, because they can distort after -58 and maximum RSSI is beneficial for top modulation. I see two relevent topics to address. 1) Why its dropping on one end, and 2) How well does Adaptive

Re: [WISPA] TrangoLink45 Link Problem

2010-01-08 Thread Scott Reed
Thanks Tom. You are correct, we are using the integrated panels for antennae. I will dig into this over the weekend and/or early next week. Tom DeReggi wrote: Scott, You are doing the right thing targetting a -60 rssi. We design most of our TLINKs to operate there, because they can distort

Re: [WISPA] OT - Glad I Didn't Buy an iPhone

2010-01-08 Thread RickG
LOL! I might use an analogy of internet for that one. Sometimes I forget how to put an ethernet end on - but then it all comes back to me :) On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 11:30 AM, jp j...@saucer.midcoast.com wrote: I can make change by either math or the count to 100 method, but I'll stick up for

[WISPA] MT Mikropoynt

2010-01-08 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
Hi All, I've been seeing way to high of a failure rate or dead out of the box problem with these radios. I'm using the 411 versions. One even had an antenna that wasn't connected inside, broken solder joint. Anyone else seeing such high failure rates? It's got to be close to 20 or 25% here.

Re: [WISPA] MT Mikropoynt

2010-01-08 Thread Josh Luthman
How about both good price and well built? Order 5+ and you save $50+. http://quicklinkwireless.com/Customkititems.asp?kc=KIT-58-23A-R52eq= I personally have them deliver the parts. I have someone at the office build them and test them (they charge 7/unit and my guy can do 2.5 builds/hr). Some

Re: [WISPA] MT Mikropoynt

2010-01-08 Thread Chuck Hogg
Normally, We do the RJ45-ECS. Some customers prefer it the other way, and a build may have been done without. I agree they are a pain, I prefer with RJ45-ECS as well. Make sure you have your account setup for WISPA (Coupon Code: FREEBUILD), and you get the builds done for free on these kits.

Re: [WISPA] TrangoLink45 Link Problem

2010-01-08 Thread jp
There was one firmware version where the adaptive modulation didn't adapt back up properly. I'd also add making sure the firmware is up to date. On Fri, Jan 08, 2010 at 12:35:40PM -0500, Tom DeReggi wrote: Scott, You are doing the right thing targetting a -60 rssi. We design most of our

Re: [WISPA] MT Mikropoynt

2010-01-08 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
I'll order one to try out. thanks, marlon - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 10:30 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT Mikropoynt How about both good price and well built? Order 5+ and

Re: [WISPA] MT Mikropoynt

2010-01-08 Thread Josh Luthman
I strongly suggest you order 5, but I can't force you to =) Reply to this thread if you have any questions at all. I can't imagine why you won't start using these, especially in place of the poynt stuff. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH

Re: [WISPA] MT Mikropoynt

2010-01-08 Thread Scott Reed
I get them with RB411R boards instead of RB411 and R52 for my 2.4 clients. One less connector to fail due to whatever. You can get them with SR/XR9. Streakwave as a very similar, OK, identical product. Marlon K. Schafer wrote: I'll order one to try out. thanks, marlon - Original

Re: [WISPA] MT Mikropoynt

2010-01-08 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
Thanks Chuck. What's an RJ45-ECS? What's the warrantee on these units? Are there other antenna size choices? I really like the Pac Wireless pass through connectors. I hate having to take a screw driver up with me much to depress the tab on an ethernet connection! laters, marlon -

Re: [WISPA] MT Mikropoynt

2010-01-08 Thread Dennis Burgess
Marlon, What do you want? WE build to order! http://store.jeffcosoho.com/product_p/2415-411-24i.htm http://store.jeffcosoho.com/product_p/2415-433-xr2-r52-24i-sp.htm If you need qtys, call ! --- Dennis Burgess, CCNA, Mikrotik

Re: [WISPA] MT Mikropoynt

2010-01-08 Thread Tom DeReggi
What we'd really like to see if a 411 style board with a second Ethernet port. There is good reason for that. 1) 433 boards dont fit in most Rootenna style or very low cost cases 2) There is a big cost different between 433Ah and basic 411, if serving residential. 3) The second Etherenet port

Re: [WISPA] MT Mikropoynt

2010-01-08 Thread Chuck Hogg
I have a fix for your need on part 3a\b\c. (3a/b) We use a cable that has a female RJ45 end, we use that to plug into from the home owner's cable that is run to the inside. We splice the data off and have another RJ45 end for Data only plugged into a laptop. Then one that is combine Data/Power

Re: [WISPA] MT Mikropoynt

2010-01-08 Thread Scott Reed
Give the tech a break-out box. A box with 2 Enet jacks and a pigtail with a plug. The plug get only the data pairs from one jack and plugs in the laptop. The power pairs get connected from one jack to the other. The jack with all 4 pair is labeled RADIO. The jack with only data pairs is

Re: [WISPA] MT Mikropoynt

2010-01-08 Thread Josh Luthman
RJ45-ECS = pac wireless pass thru connectors http://images.google.com/images?q=rj45-ecsoe=utf-8rls=org.mozilla:en-US:officialclient=firefox-aum=1ie=UTF-8sa=Nhl=entab=wi It's a female rj45 connect outside (so you plug your outdoor cable into it, then through the house to a POE) and a patch cable

Re: [WISPA] MT Mikropoynt

2010-01-08 Thread Mike Hammett
2) There is a regular 433 that's half way between the 411 and the 433AH. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Tom DeReggi wirelessn...@rapiddsl.net Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 1:45 PM To: WISPA

Re: [WISPA] MT Mikropoynt

2010-01-08 Thread Josh Luthman
Tom, Problem solved: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/60247/IMG00079-20100108-1502.jpg http://dl.dropbox.com/u/60247/IMG00081-20100108-1503.jpg That's a 24v power supply. Works with Trango/Canopy ptmp stuff (RP) and Mikrotik/Nanostations (the other way on the switch) Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340

Re: [WISPA] MT Mikropoynt

2010-01-08 Thread Dennis Burgess
Don't you ground your installations prior to coming into the house? We have grounding blocks that are just ethernet jacks, and a small 12 volt DC battery and injector to plug right into outside. no splicing required. --- Dennis Burgess,

Re: [WISPA] MT Mikropoynt

2010-01-08 Thread Chuck Hogg
Try #3 in sending this with a link removed. We guarantee our workmanship in the assembly. For example, if for some reason water were to get in because of our failure to make sure the unit is sealed properly, we will replace it. The warranty sticker must be intact. If it is a component failure,

Re: [WISPA] MT Mikropoynt

2010-01-08 Thread Tom DeReggi
Chuck, (3 a/b) - Great idea. Do you sell or have a source for a SOLID cable assembly that is pinned out that way, that is durable to last carring around in the field? We custom punch down similar cable solutions inside enclosures when we want to extend a second ethernet port to an external

Re: [WISPA] MT Mikropoynt

2010-01-08 Thread Tom DeReggi
We used to ground them when we were using Trango CPE with Canopy SS300. For business and Mikrotik we do, because PVC outside, and Plenum inside, so need the junction anyway. But now with Mikrotik residnetial style outdoor equipment, and connecting to cheap indoor SOHO router, its so darn

Re: [WISPA] MT Mikropoynt

2010-01-08 Thread Tom DeReggi
Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 3:09 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT Mikropoynt Tom, Problem solved: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/60247/IMG00079-20100108-1502.jpg http://dl.dropbox.com/u/60247/IMG00081-20100108-1503.jpg That's a 24v power supply. Works with Trango/Canopy ptmp stuff (RP) and Mikrotik

Re: [WISPA] MT Mikropoynt

2010-01-08 Thread Josh Luthman
...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 3:09 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT Mikropoynt Tom, Problem solved: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/60247/IMG00079-20100108-1502.jpg http://dl.dropbox.com/u/60247/IMG00081-20100108-1503.jpg That's a 24v power

Re: [WISPA] MT Mikropoynt

2010-01-08 Thread Chuck Hogg
If there is a demand for it, we could manufacture some of them. I typically make them. What would you be willing to pay? $10-15 depending on quantity? Regards, Chuck Hogg Shelby Broadband 502-722-9292 ch...@shelbybb.com http://www.shelbybb.com -Original Message- From:

Re: [WISPA] MT Mikropoynt

2010-01-08 Thread Eje Gustafsson
@wispa.org Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 3:09 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT Mikropoynt Tom, Problem solved: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/60247/IMG00079-20100108-1502.jpg http://dl.dropbox.com/u/60247/IMG00081-20100108-1503.jpg That's a 24v power supply. Works with Trango/Canopy ptmp stuff (RP

Re: [WISPA] MT Mikropoynt

2010-01-08 Thread Josh Luthman
Look at the picture better. It says patent pending. Zoomed in: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/60247/IMG00079-20100108-1502-zoom.jpg Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources. --- Albert

Re: [WISPA] MT Mikropoynt

2010-01-08 Thread Eje Gustafsson
. It says patent pending. Zoomed in: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/60247/IMG00079-20100108-1502-zoom.jpg Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources. --- Albert Einstein On Fri, Jan 8, 2010

Re: [WISPA] MT Mikropoynt

2010-01-08 Thread Ryan Spott
Luthman Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 4:34 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT Mikropoynt Look at the picture better.  It says patent pending. Zoomed in: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/60247/IMG00079-20100108-1502-zoom.jpg Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343

Re: [WISPA] MT Mikropoynt

2010-01-08 Thread Tom DeReggi
I would not need more than 2 portable units myself, because I have a small tech staff. Its not really a price issue per unit to me because of that. But if you were to created a partnumber/product of it, I'd guess $30 would be a reasonable street price for something like that, to be attractive

Re: [WISPA] MT Mikropoynt

2010-01-08 Thread Tom DeReggi
] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 4:34 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT Mikropoynt Look at the picture better. It says patent pending. Zoomed in: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/60247/IMG00079-20100108-1502-zoom.jpg Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340

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