Re: [WISPA] 900Mhz sectors

2010-01-14 Thread lakeland
Rick You need to search the model numvers on line and verify polarity. A lot of cell antennas are 45 degree cross pol. So they are not vert or horiz but stock in between. Jumpers for these are easy to find on Ebay. You need DIN male to N male. If 3' jumpers work for you hit me off list. I

[WISPA] Trango APEX firmware question

2010-01-14 Thread Steven McGehee
Hi all, Wasn't sure if any of you used Trango APEX 11/18Ghz products. We have a link in production that is using an older firmware that I plan to upgrade to the latest, v1p2r2. I'm unable to find any documentation regarding what this firmware actually fixes or what known issues it has. Does

Re: [WISPA] Trango APEX firmware question

2010-01-14 Thread Brad Belton
I agree that Trango needs a change log. I thought they had one, but can't seem to find it right now. We recently upgraded an Apex18 and an Apex11 with v122 firmware. The reason the Apex18 was upgraded was because it would just stop passing data even though the rssi, BER, MSE and link lock

[WISPA] Send MONEY Now!

2010-01-14 Thread chris cooper
This is completely off topic, but stick with me a few minutes. There is a WISP tie in here. As you all know, Haiti has been hit by a devastating earthquake. Haiti is the most impoverished country in the western hemisphere - these people were already struggling to live on a daily basis. The

Re: [WISPA] Trango APEX firmware question

2010-01-14 Thread David E. Smith
On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 08:50, Brad Belton b...@belwave.com wrote: The reason the Apex18 was upgraded was because it would just stop passing data even though the rssi, BER, MSE and link lock status all showed good. So far we haven't seen the issue again, but this problem only surfaced every

Re: [WISPA] Send MONEY Now!

2010-01-14 Thread jp
Done, and I'm not an easy pushover for donations. Haiti is our neighbor and to say they need help is an understatement. These helpful firsthand recommendations for aid wouldn't be possible without the Internet. Getting the money routed and people organized wouldn't be efficient without the

Re: [WISPA] Send MONEY Now!

2010-01-14 Thread Jeremy Parr
2010/1/14 chris cooper ccoo...@intelliwave.com: If you for some reason would rather not give to Lifeline you can go here to give your $100: www.doctorswithoutborders.org www.redcross.org http://www.oxfam.org/en/emergencies I will second the appeal to support Doctors Without Borders.

Re: [WISPA] Send MONEY Now!

2010-01-14 Thread Travis Johnson
Is there a Paypal account we can send to? Travis Microserv chris cooper wrote: This is completely off topic, but stick with me a few minutes. There is a WISP tie in here. As you all know, Haiti has been hit by a devastating earthquake. Haiti is the most impoverished country in the

Re: [WISPA] Trango APEX firmware question

2010-01-14 Thread Brad Belton
Hello David, Good to hear about your v122 firmware results. Trango couldn't give me any details if the firmware would definitely fix the issue or not. The problem only surfaced every so often, so it was difficult to troubleshoot. Have you run into any copper Ethernet cable length issues that

Re: [WISPA] Send MONEY Now!

2010-01-14 Thread Jeremy Parr
2010/1/14 Jeremy Parr jeremyp...@gmail.com: 2010/1/14 chris cooper ccoo...@intelliwave.com: If you for some reason would rather not give to Lifeline you can go here to give your $100: www.doctorswithoutborders.org www.redcross.org http://www.oxfam.org/en/emergencies I will second the

Re: [WISPA] Send MONEY Now!

2010-01-14 Thread chris cooper
I checked with them and they can only process credit/debit cards. They said they would be happy to take a check. Mail it here: Lifeline Christian Mission 184 Olde County Line Road Westerville, OH 43081 Thanks for caring Chris -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org

Re: [WISPA] Send MONEY Now!

2010-01-14 Thread RickG
You guys are the best for doing this but be careful who and where you send money. Unfortunately, there are a lot of scam artist that will take advantage of situations like this. On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 11:24 AM, Jeremy Parr jeremyp...@gmail.com wrote: 2010/1/14 Jeremy Parr jeremyp...@gmail.com:

Re: [WISPA] 900Mhz sectors

2010-01-14 Thread RickG
I'll check those model numbers. If they are 45 degree units, can they still be used? -RickG On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 9:05 AM, lakel...@gbcx.net wrote: Rick You need to search the model numvers on line and verify polarity. A lot of cell antennas are 45 degree cross pol. So they are not vert

Re: [WISPA] Send MONEY Now!

2010-01-14 Thread Jeremy Parr
2010/1/14 RickG rgunder...@gmail.com: You guys are the best for doing this but be careful who and where you send money. Unfortunately, there are a lot of scam artist that will take advantage of situations like this. Yes, I would avoid the missionary groups. Doctors Without Borders is legit,

Re: [WISPA] Send MONEY Now!

2010-01-14 Thread Josh Luthman
Agreed. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources. --- Albert Einstein On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 12:16 PM, Jeremy Parr jeremyp...@gmail.com wrote: 2010/1/14 RickG

Re: [WISPA] Send MONEY Now!

2010-01-14 Thread Jon Auer
I always figured that the larger groups (Red Cross, DWB) eat up a larger percentage of donations in their bureaucracy simply because of their larger size. On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 10:16 AM, Jeremy Parr jeremyp...@gmail.com wrote: 2010/1/14 RickG rgunder...@gmail.com: You guys are the best for

Re: [WISPA] Send MONEY Now!

2010-01-14 Thread Mike
Absolutely not true with the RED Cross. You get a big bang for your buck, and they are always the first to respond with relief, know what they're doing, and do it well. At redcross.org you can even use Amazon payments to get your donation on the way. Do it, it'll make you feel good. Mike

Re: [WISPA] Send MONEY Now!

2010-01-14 Thread Jeremy Parr
2010/1/14 Mike m...@aweiowa.com: Absolutely not true with the RED Cross.  You get a big bang for your buck, and they are always the first to respond with relief, know what they're doing, and do it well. At redcross.org you can even use Amazon payments to get your donation on the way. Do

Re: [WISPA] Send MONEY Now!

2010-01-14 Thread Mike
I guess you could pick a more efficient charity; the Carnegie Science Foundation, but would that put the resources where they are immediately needed? The site you sent splits hairs. Administrators of the Red Cross are higher caliber people, and require higher compensation that Administrators of

[WISPA] Mesh network - what do you think?

2010-01-14 Thread Paolo Di Francesco
Hi All I am wondering if somebody of you is using mesh networks for hotels or hospitality sites. What I was wondering is if you tried mikrotik mesh network, if they are stable in the field, etc. I was also thinking about ruckus, they are focused on mesh network, so any input on this topic is

[WISPA] multiple networks on one cable...

2010-01-14 Thread Mark McElvy
I am moving my servers to a new location in the same building. I only have 2 Ethernet runs from the current room to the new. I also have several networks to move. What would it hurt to have several different IP networks traveling across a single cable for say a week as I moved the servers, ie,

Re: [WISPA] multiple networks on one cable...

2010-01-14 Thread Jeremy Parr
2010/1/14 Mark McElvy mmce...@accubak.com: I am moving my servers to a new location in the same building. I only have 2 Ethernet runs from the current room to the new. I also have several networks to move. What would it hurt to have several different IP networks traveling across a single cable

Re: [WISPA] Send MONEY Now!

2010-01-14 Thread Patrick Leary
I chose to trust Chris's word that Lifeline is real. I also figure since they have (had) a functioning operation in Haiti, they would have relationship and local understanding to get to work ASAP. But I encourage all to make their own choices, just give. Wish I could give blood, but I am

Re: [WISPA] multiple networks on one cable...

2010-01-14 Thread Mark McElvy
I would if I had my brain wrapped around VLan's Mark McElvy AccuBak Data Systems, Inc. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jeremy Parr Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2010 2:15 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA]

Re: [WISPA] Mesh network - what do you think?

2010-01-14 Thread Josh Luthman
My hotels have 5 to 25 APs. Each of them are wired, no mesh. Some of them have switches in closets that spider out if it's easier to wire that way. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide

Re: [WISPA] Send MONEY Now!

2010-01-14 Thread Jim Patient
On 1/14/2010 11:16 AM, Jeremy Parr wrote: 2010/1/14 RickGrgunder...@gmail.com: You guys are the best for doing this but be careful who and where you send money. Unfortunately, there are a lot of scam artist that will take advantage of situations like this. Yes, I would avoid the

Re: [WISPA] Mesh network - what do you think?

2010-01-14 Thread Steve Barnes
Then you use WDS or what to make it that a client can jump from one AP to the other without loss of connection.\? Steve Barnes RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent:

Re: [WISPA] Send MONEY Now!

2010-01-14 Thread Andy Trimmell
If anyone knows a WISP that needs anything in Haiti please post it to the list. I'm sure there's at least one. Thank you. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jim Patient Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2010 4:11 PM To: WISPA

Re: [WISPA] multiple networks on one cable...

2010-01-14 Thread Josh Luthman
It won't be a problem if you don't have a Mikrotik hotspot or something of the sort. Got bit by that one once. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources. --- Albert Einstein On

Re: [WISPA] Send MONEY Now!

2010-01-14 Thread Blake Bowers
Doctors without borders is more than legit, those folks are tremendous. Their work is done completely without politics, publicity, etc. Routinely rated among the best of charities, I can't brag on those folks enough. They were already in country, and have lost most if not all of their clinics

Re: [WISPA] Mesh network - what do you think?

2010-01-14 Thread Josh Luthman
Supporting of jumping between APs is not something I ever considered supporting. Having said that, when I walk down the halls making sure each AP is working, I lose 0-3 packets on a constant ping when switching APs and don't lose my TCP connections. RDP, speed tests, Dude, etc all stays on from

Re: [WISPA] Send MONEY Now!

2010-01-14 Thread Patrick Leary
Digicel is a privately-owned cellular company with operations mostly in the Caribbean. It is the Haitian nation's largest cellular carrier with 3 million subscribers. They also operate a major WiMAX network there (not an Aperto customer). Denis O'Brien, its CEO, said much of the cellular network

Re: [WISPA] Send MONEY Now!

2010-01-14 Thread Shaddi Hasan
From a friend with extensive experience in disaster relief. Some tips on donations for long-term rebuilding effort as well. And good points about distributing donations if possible as organizations reach their capacity. TL;DNR: I second what's been said about Doctors w/o Borders. Partners in

Re: [WISPA] Trango APEX firmware question

2010-01-14 Thread Tom DeReggi
I always find it interesting how different people have different experiences with the same gear. I'm wondering if it depends on what firmware each was using.at the time? Our APEX gear is 18Ghz, and we have not had the same experiences shared by the others. The experience we had was that the

Re: [WISPA] multiple networks on one cable...

2010-01-14 Thread Scott Reed
For a week, I would just do it. For permanent, I would look at VLANs Nick Olsen wrote: Shouldn't be a problem, I Would do it with vlan's though. Nick Olsen Brevard Wireless (321) 205-1100 x106 From: Mark McElvy mmce...@accubak.com Sent:

Re: [WISPA] Trango APEX firmware question

2010-01-14 Thread Steven McGehee
I have a similar issue with an 11Ghz Apex that for some reason, is stuck in debug mode in the command line (and the command to leave that and go back to normal view/config mode isn't working). It's still running the v1p1p1 firmware. Thank you all for your responses by the way -- I did, earlier

Re: [WISPA] Trango APEX firmware question

2010-01-14 Thread Steven McGehee
Hi Brad, I haven't had that particular problem, but I am sure that none of our (5) Apex installs have cable lengths of more than probably 200-225'. I did hear back from Trango today by the way, and here's what I was given as what v1p2r2 offers: Changes and Enhancements 1. Support for 14

[WISPA] wind turbine

2010-01-14 Thread Randy Cosby
Anyone using wind turbines in high-wind areas? We had a Southwest wind power AirBreeze get shredded - probably 80+mph winds. Are 5 or 6-blade turbines going to handle high wind better? -- Randy Cosby Vice President InfoWest, Inc 435-674-0165 x 2010 http://www.infowest.com/ Letting off

Re: [WISPA] wind turbine

2010-01-14 Thread Mark McElvy
I would say you need one that will furl in high winds. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Randy Cosby Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2010 5:19 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] wind turbine Anyone using wind turbines

Re: [WISPA] multiple networks on one cable...

2010-01-14 Thread Stuart Pierce
Normal, I do it all the time. -- Original Message -- From: Mark McElvy mmce...@accubak.com Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 14:05:53 -0600 I am moving my servers to a new location in the same building. I only have 2

Re: [WISPA] wind turbine

2010-01-14 Thread Tom Sharples
The more recent air-x 400s are supposed to be pretty good, unless you use them in an area subject to ice buildup. Then, they shake themselves to pieces. This info from a client in northern Alberta. Also see this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A35IgpkPshY Tom S. - Original Message -

Re: [WISPA] multiple networks on one cable...

2010-01-14 Thread Rick Kunze
The Internet is see subject It's perfectly normal and for well beyond temporary. Rk On Jan 14, 2010, at 18:35, Stuart Pierce spie...@avolve.net wrote: Normal, I do it all the time. -- Original Message -- From: Mark McElvy mmce...@accubak.com

[WISPA] WISPA Filings in 2009/2010

2010-01-14 Thread Rick Harnish
I thought I would post the extensive list of FCC Filings that our efforts and contributions from WISPA members have achieved this year. I personally want to thank Jack Unger, the FCC Committee Chairman and Tom DeReggi, the Legislative Committee Chairman for their many hours of dedication and hard