Re: [WISPA] Ubiquity AirMax - rehashed?

2010-03-05 Thread Robert West
Jerry, I just finished installing two AP's all airMax and all the subs are now Airmax as well. My ping times went from 26ms to 10 on those AP's. Using 120 degree 5ghz sectors, one AP I have the large 19dbi antennas and the other the smaller sectors. Both AP's are performing beautifully. Bob

Re: [WISPA] Ubiquity AirMax - rehashed?

2010-03-05 Thread Robert West
Yeah, but the using Airmax to you can get over multipath issues. Even with one chain active the links seem to perform much smoother. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jerry Richardson Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010

Re: [WISPA] Hotel

2010-03-05 Thread Robert West
I tried using WDS with the backhauls but I dropped some throughput so I went to all AP/Client on those. Using UBNT for most backhauls now... Just changed my last one over from WDS last night as a matter of fact. That one I had a sub running off of due to no better signal, took care of that y

Re: [WISPA] signal too hot!

2010-03-05 Thread Robert West
I agree. I've had a few links that were way too hot, like in the -40's. I noticed packet errors in logs. Lowered the power to get it in the mid -70's and errors gone. On one I actually had to lower both units as far down as they could go. A 5 mile shot with minimal power. Magical Bob- --

Re: [WISPA] FM antenna separation

2010-03-05 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
I'm on an 18kw tower. It's a royal PITA The problem is actually on the ethernet site of things. It screws up all of the transmissions on the cables. Sheilded cable AND ferrite beads are the only hope of keeping things running. For me anyway. marlon - Original Message - From: "M

Re: [WISPA] Hotel

2010-03-05 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
I'd NOT use all of them on the same channel and the same ssid. Computers in boarder line coverage zones will flip flop between systems and you'll get complaints from the slow speeds etc. You'll also cause interference to the other systems when one ding bat downloads a movie and chews up a lot o

Re: [WISPA] Ubiquity Pico2HP.

2010-03-05 Thread Forbes Mercy
Perhaps I misspoke in saying Eje and other members isn't a great source of information because he's been a great value of information and certainly knows his stuff. I was pointing out that it's great to hear from the 'horses mouth' whats happening and Ubiquiti really likes the feedback directl

Re: [WISPA] Hotel

2010-03-05 Thread Robert West
Actually I've had them all set up on the same SSID with same channel but these are smaller 2 floor hotels. Never get any complaints like that caused by the system, always the client PC. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Beh

Re: [WISPA] Time Warner bandwidth in Central Ohio

2010-03-05 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
I get around that for local business grade DSL by pointing out that I don't sell DSL to anyone. I buy bandwidth (at a premium) and I can do what I want with it. When they told me that the school could buy the service and put 40 pc's on it there wasn't much more that they could say when I wanted

Re: [WISPA] How not to install an antenna

2010-03-05 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
That's because I was taking the picture silly! grin By the way, how's that new bucket truck working out? http://www.odessaoffice.com/wireless/images/misc/Ladder.html cackle marlon - Original Message - From: "Bob Moldashel" To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2010 6:50

Re: [WISPA] How not to install an antenna

2010-03-05 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
Rent a bucket truck! - Original Message - From: "Robert West" To: "'WISPA General List'" Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2010 10:05 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] How not to install an antenna > Ya know, the real funny thing for me with this picture is that I thought > of > the same thing for tw

Re: [WISPA] Ubiquity AirMax - rehashed?

2010-03-05 Thread Ryan Ghering
We just launched out Rocket service for our customer base, swapping out customers is cake for us as most are nano or bullets anyhow, change out the radio and off we went. We have one customer that is especially impressive. We are using a bulletm2 and a 19db pac wireless grid. Airmax enabled and he

Re: [WISPA] Hotel

2010-03-05 Thread Josh Luthman
Same ssid different channels...hotels anywhere from 2 to 12 APs. Never seen anyone flip between two of them too much so that it causes a complaint. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is th

[WISPA] Indoor Mesh recomm.

2010-03-05 Thread Gino Villarini
List, I got a customer that wants wifi on his very big and concrete house. I was thinking a indoor wifi mesh What gear its recommended? Openmesh any good? Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 ---

Re: [WISPA] Indoor Mesh recomm.

2010-03-05 Thread Josh Luthman
How many APs do you need? How big is the building? I'd say Ruckus has the best history for mesh. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Ch

Re: [WISPA] Indoor Mesh recomm.

2010-03-05 Thread Gino Villarini
Ill say 4 aPs, got a model for rukus? Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Friday, March 05, 2010 1:17 PM To: WISPA General

Re: [WISPA] Indoor Mesh recomm.

2010-03-05 Thread Chuck Hogg
Out of the many resorts I have been to, Ruckus seems to be the #1 Wireless AP for Mesh. I unplugged it once in our room, and plugged directly into the Docsis modem, had a phone call in 10 minutes asking if I did something. Apparently I took down the network for some of their other monitoring in t

Re: [WISPA] Hotel

2010-03-05 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
Hmmm. I guess I'm not surprised by that. When I'm at a hotel and the internet sucks I just figure that that's because I'm in a hotel. I've never called to complain. You can sure see that happen out in the field though! marlon - Original Message - From: "Josh Luthman" To: "WISPA Gen

Re: [WISPA] Indoor Mesh recomm.

2010-03-05 Thread Josh Luthman
I've not used Ruckus. Just read up on the deployments and heard the praise. Talk to either 3db or Jeff at CTI. I know for certain that Jeff knows most if not all of the model numbers (I'm looking into using Ruckus for future deployments if we do them). Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct:

Re: [WISPA] Hotel

2010-03-05 Thread Josh Luthman
It's been quite some time so I don't think I've used my current laptop, but with my previous laptop (Intel 3945 - awful card) when we finished a deployment I would go to every corner of every hallway and run jperf and ping making sure I could get online. It lost a ping or two when jumping between

[WISPA] Poor performing customer

2010-03-05 Thread Mark McElvy
I have a customer I set up a couple of months ago, UBNT PS2 running in B, 30ft mast on roof. It has been running fine till last week. Customer end is showing -75 with -85 noise, the noise seems weird since the are in the middle of nowhere and the cpe can only see my tower and their own router. To

Re: [WISPA] Poor performing customer

2010-03-05 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
This could easily be multipath caused by a change in the ground conditions. Trees, etc. I've got customers that get junk service every spring and fall. There are a few weeks when things just go to hell, then it clears up all on it's own. Seems to have something to do with how wet the ground is

Re: [WISPA] Hotel

2010-03-05 Thread Robert West
The problem I've had from the hotels is that the ones I deal with have a reservation system on the 2 way Satellite system running at 2.5ghz. We would either have internet and no satellite or satellite and no internet. Was never able to spread the channels around. Was tough finding the right chann

Re: [WISPA] Do yourself a favor

2010-03-05 Thread Blair Davis
I am surprised that your oil pressure gauge or oil light did not come on before that happened... Forbes Mercy wrote: I just want to share this with you, right now when you finish reading this put down the keyboard, walk outside and check the oil levels in all of your fleet. I kept threat

Re: [WISPA] Poor performing customer

2010-03-05 Thread ralphlists
X10 type wireless camera. Or any other 2.4 GHz part 15 device besides you. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mark McElvy Sent: Friday, March 05, 2010 12:26 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Poor performing custome

Re: [WISPA] Hotel

2010-03-05 Thread ralphlists
Direcway, as are just about all satellite services these days, is on Ku band- not 2.5 GHz. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West Sent: Friday, March 05, 2010 12:55 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] H

Re: [WISPA] Poor performing customer

2010-03-05 Thread MDK
I'll second that. I've had 14 mile out customers go from 'not really working' to working very well, by moving the antenna about 16 inches. And no, there was NOTHING anywhere near it. No trees in the path, no buildings, etc.This was rooftop mount, at the very peak. I was 20 inches off

Re: [WISPA] Do yourself a favor

2010-03-05 Thread MDK
LOL, so many bashes into the ground, rocks, snow, ice, etc from off-road and jeep trail ventures, on the oil pan of my service van, that I get no more than 2 tanks of gas between oil fill-ups. no, not broken, but it leaks all around the perimeter, and even a new gasket won't stop the leaks.

Re: [WISPA] Do yourself a favor

2010-03-05 Thread MDK
Wow, meant to reply to this, not to a replier to you, Forbes. -- From: "Forbes Mercy" Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 4:33 PM To: "WISPA General List" Subject: [WISPA] Do yourself a favor > I just want to share this with you, right now when you fin

Re: [WISPA] Hotel

2010-03-05 Thread MDK
LOL, you haven't? I learned new words to express my frustration over this a few years back, when I had to spend 2 days stuck in a hotel with nothing else to do but try to work remotely. Same SSID and half of the AP's were on the same freaking channel, too. I jumped AP's about every 2-6 minu

Re: [WISPA] Hotel

2010-03-05 Thread Josh Luthman
If an AP isn't working right or on the same channel that's a different story. It would have helped you to set the ESSID differently but you could have (I think Windows can) specify the BSSID to whatever AP is working. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337

[WISPA] Outdoor mesh, has anyone seen any work well?

2010-03-05 Thread MDK
I just got a call from a remote community, this is in "the mountains" so to speak. It's actually a canyon with a river in the middle and houses on both sides. It's not straight, and there's trees galore.In other words, longest distance with 2.4 is going to be "not very far". But, there

Re: [WISPA] Outdoor mesh, has anyone seen any work well?

2010-03-05 Thread Blair Davis
get an overview location and shoot 900MHz into it? MDK wrote: I just got a call from a remote community, this is in "the mountains" so to speak. It's actually a canyon with a river in the middle and houses on both sides. It's not straight, and there's trees galore.In other words,

Re: [WISPA] Ubiquity Pico2HP.

2010-03-05 Thread Mike
H, if we're the ones using the product, perhaps they should monitor this list... -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Forbes Mercy Sent: Friday, March 05, 2010 9:57 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquity P

Re: [WISPA] Outdoor mesh, has anyone seen any work well?

2010-03-05 Thread MDK
That would be my first choice... BUT. No power. No roads, very steep canyon walls in places. One side is a north east facing slope, shaded by the OTHER side, which is taller and blocks sun until late morning even in the summer and is shaded early afternoon by itself. Other side is a

Re: [WISPA] Outdoor mesh, has anyone seen any work well?

2010-03-05 Thread Jerry Richardson
Sounds like a good place to lose alot of money. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 5, 2010, at 10:41 AM, "MDK" wrote: > I just got a call from a remote community, this is in "the > mountains" so to > speak. It's actually a canyon with a river in the middle and > houses on > both sides. It's not str

Re: [WISPA] Outdoor mesh, has anyone seen any work well?

2010-03-05 Thread Josh Luthman
Maybe - but it depends on the customer count. For 5 people you would to charge ~100/mo each for access to get somewhere. For 30 you can do ~50/mo and be very happy. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is n

Re: [WISPA] New Ubiquiti Gear

2010-03-05 Thread Josh Luthman
>From a distributor regarding the PowerAP AP1000 sent today: "These will be in around April, they are shipping from China this month." Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to

Re: [WISPA] Outdoor mesh, has anyone seen any work well?

2010-03-05 Thread Jim Patient
We done a ranger copmlex in Alaska with 900 ubiquiti cards on MT boards a couple years ago and they get 11' of snow on the roofs. They have 2.4 broadcast. We also done a large shipyard a few months ago with 900 mesh backhauls and 2.4 APs. It works great. They actually block paths when they m

Re: [WISPA] Do yourself a favor

2010-03-05 Thread Marco Coelho
We make our crews check the vans / trucks every Monday. Be sure to teach them yourself on how to do it as most kids don't know the engine has to be running for ATF check Marco On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 12:28 PM, MDK wrote: > Wow, meant to reply to this, not to a replier to you, Forbes. > > ---

Re: [WISPA] Electric Hoist?

2010-03-05 Thread Marco Coelho
Myte capstand hoist rocks. about $1000 each, but pays for itself on the first job. http://www.myte.com/View-Products.aspx?id=3 ALWAYS make sure your lines are at 90° to the capstand. Use three to four loops around depending on your load. Never lift over people. Marco On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at

Re: [WISPA] Outdoor mesh, has anyone seen any work well?

2010-03-05 Thread MDK
We charge <40/mo and do not charge different rates for being "remote". The fact is, nearly all our customrs you would consider "remote" if you're a suburban or urban WISP.The investment isn't the issue here. Finding what WORKS and making up two or three options to study is what I’m intere

Re: [WISPA] New Ubiquiti Gear

2010-03-05 Thread can...@believewireless.net
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Re: [WISPA] Tower light power

2010-03-05 Thread Marco Coelho
All of ours have been 120 vac 60hz. On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 2:03 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: > How often is the power delivered to the tower for the lights NOT 120 vAC? > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > > >

Re: [WISPA] How not to install an antenna

2010-03-05 Thread Marco Coelho
At least they have a rope? I don't know what it's tied too though. Can't see any harness. And if you fall toward the front you get impaled by a cross! Ouch Marco On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 8:50 PM, Bob Moldashel wrote: > OK...  I think this is self explanatory. > > I looked real good in the other

Re: [WISPA] Outdoor mesh, has anyone seen any work well?

2010-03-05 Thread jp
On Fri, Mar 05, 2010 at 12:39:33PM -0800, MDK wrote: > We charge <40/mo and do not charge different rates for being "remote". > > The fact is, nearly all our customrs you would consider "remote" if you're a > suburban or urban WISP.The investment isn't the issue here. Finding > what WORKS

Re: [WISPA] Outdoor mesh, has anyone seen any work well?

2010-03-05 Thread Phil Curnutt
Open-mesh. Don't know how well it will work, but it is cheap enough for a test and then we'll all know. A few sites scattered up the canyon and see it they connect. A couple of hundred bucks. Phil On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 1:39 PM, MDK wrote: > We charge <40/mo and do not charge different rate

Re: [WISPA] Friday Funny

2010-03-05 Thread Josh Luthman
The weird sense of duty really good sysadmins have can border on the sociopathic, but it's nice to know that it stands between the forces of darkness and your cat blog's servers. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final,

Re: [WISPA] New Ubiquiti Gear

2010-03-05 Thread Josh Luthman
In a previous email: "MSRP at this time is $89.00 from what my system is stating." Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Fri

Re: [WISPA] Friday Funny

2010-03-05 Thread Philip Dorr
One of the comments in the thread for that post said that the sysadmin did not ignore the hostages, he left them so that they did not cause problems. On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 4:19 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: > The weird sense of duty really good sysadmins have can border on the > sociopathic, but it's

Re: [WISPA] Friday Funny

2010-03-05 Thread Josh Luthman
Ha! Need...uptime... On 3/5/10, Philip Dorr wrote: > One of the comments in the thread for that post said that the sysadmin > did not ignore the hostages, he left them so that they did not cause > problems. > > On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 4:19 PM, Josh Luthman > wrote: >> The weird sense of duty rea

Re: [WISPA] Outdoor mesh, has anyone seen any work well?

2010-03-05 Thread Blair Davis
Well, I used the locustworld mesh for a while.  It never worked well... Now, I use MikroTik with WDS for some things, and MikroTik with XR9 cards for my NLoS stuff.  Bullet proof. I'd love to see a road map and a topo map of the area.  Might be better able to give you some ideas... MDK wro

Re: [WISPA] Do yourself a favor

2010-03-05 Thread Glenn Kelley
try that on for size - replace the logo of course :-) _ Glenn Kelley | Principle | HostMedic |www.HostMedic.com Email: gl...@hostmedic.com Pplease don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. On Mar 5,

Re: [WISPA] Do yourself a favor

2010-03-05 Thread Glenn Kelley
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