Dear Forbes and Subscribers of this List,
First off, if I sent this to two lists, I apologize as that was not my
intent. All I did was hit reply and GMail did the rest.
Secondly, I agree WE should keep this list on topic. But that means
EVERYONE! It is unfair for one to be allowed to take a
I have been doing a lot of that lately(Fired, or fired before you are
hired). Had a customer come in today...first thing out of their mouth was
Hulu and Netflix. Told them, we are not a solution for you.
Scottie
Yup!
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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org
Yes, I have heard of them. Time Warner (TW Telecom) is my upstream. We aren't
paying for IP addresses, but we only have a /27 of addresses with them.
Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote:
ATT and Time Warner. You may have heard of them. :)
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From:
Oh the joy of working with big companies with no inner-correspondence. I
wish it were the same everywhere. Unfortunately, the big company I compete
against has most of their $hit together.
Scottie
At least you still have your since of humor.
I think you should be proud of yourself for knowing
Rick,
The fact that this thread now has three responses is exactly why we need
to intervene sooner than later. Yes the time stamp shows you as first
to go off topic, those after my response didn't get a response because
how much am I perpetuating this by responding to everyone. How clever
I have made a quick survey on surveymonkey that collects data about your
bandwidth sources. I will post the data collected in a week. It basically
addresses if your primary connection to the Internet backbone is through a
wholesale provider or if you are using a connection such as business or
We've been using v6 internally for about a year.
We've recently begun providing v6 to select customers; usually the ones with
/26 or more of v4 address space. At that size they're usually technically
competent, and thus ready to start migrating.
--
Blake Covarrubias
On Aug 3, 2010, at 6:04
I may have lost an Orthogon Gemini PoE Injector in yesterday's
storms. Are they the same as another PoE Injector or do I need to track
down some old stock somewhere?
--
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
Competition is what keeps your upstream from doing that. Even if you
have T-1 service in BFE, you can get a T-1 from any major IXC anywhere
T-1s are available.
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
On 8/3/2010 11:09 PM, Jack Unger wrote:
Comments
Time Warner Telecom and Time Warner Cable are entirely different
companies. No present relationship whatsoever.
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
On 8/4/2010 1:23 AM, John Thomas wrote:
Yes, I have heard of them. Time Warner (TW Telecom) is my
So just let the market pressures dictate this. A WISP can switch upstream
providers if they are being treated unfairly. It may not be cheaper but they
have that right. Upstream providers are in the business of selling bandwidth
so it is unlikely that they will do this if you are truly purchasing
This is the only reply I got on this. I guess I have no takers. :-(
I can become a member today but I highly doubt the sample contracts will
be what I am looking for.
Thanks
Liam
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org
I think there are multiple contracts on the Wiki, and I have some that
are commercial contracts. Join up!
Regards,
Chuck Hogg
Shelby Broadband
502-722-9292
ch...@shelbybb.com
http://www.shelbybb.com
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Liam
http://www.toolkit.com/news/newsDetail.aspx?nid=10-161Form1099
WISPA Wants You! Join today!
http://signup.wispa.org/
WISPA Wireless
K working on it now
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Chuck Hogg
Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2010 9:27 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] contract for use or tower
I think there are multiple
If you can't find what you need on the Wiki, let me know and I will
forward along tower contracts I've used in the past.
Patrick Shoemaker
Vector Data Systems LLC
shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com
office: (301) 358-1690 x36
http://www.vectordatasystems.com
Liam Cummings wrote:
K working on it
I just joined... I am not sure if what they have on the wiki is going to
work for me. I would greatly appreciate it if you could share what you
have been using.
Thanks a ton!
Liam
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of
Josh,
You rock! That program is only 200kb and it recovered from what I could tell
all of my data. That little program did more than the others I've found that
I almost was going to pay form THANKS!
-Kurt Fankhauser
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org
You owe me a beer :P
Glad it worked for you. The date I found that was in 2003!
On Aug 4, 2010 11:40 AM, Kurt Fankhauser k...@wavelinc.com wrote:
Josh,
You rock! That program is only 200kb and it recovered from what I could tell
all of my data. That little program did more than the others
Brian said it well.
What is needed, and what has been lost over the past decade (at the
instigation of the Bells, who pretty much took total control of the
FCC in 2001), is a clear distinction between the role of common
carrier and the role of the value-added, enhanced, or
information
I sure do! Next time your in the area give me a call. Your not that far from
me anyhow.
Kurt Fankhauser
WAVELINC
P.O. Box 126
Bucyrus, OH 44820
419-562-6405
_
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Wednesday, August
Are you headed towards Lexington this weekend?
On Aug 4, 2010 12:11 PM, Kurt Fankhauser k...@wavelinc.com wrote:
I sure do! Next time your in the area give me a call. Your not that far
from me anyhow.
Kurt Fankhauser
WAVELINC
P.O. Box 126
Bucyrus, OH 44820
419-562-6405
At 8/4/2010 08:06 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:
Time Warner Telecom and Time Warner Cable are entirely different
companies. No present relationship whatsoever.
Even worse than that. tw Telecom (small tw), Time Warner Cable,
and Time Warner Inc. (CNN-Turner, Time magazine, etc.) are *three*
04 AUG 2010 -- Fromhttp://www.spaceweather.com
The second CME is still en route. NOAA forecasters estimate a 35%
chance of major geomagnetic storms when the cloud arrives on August
4th or 5th. High-latitude sky watchers should remain alert for auroras.
Friendly Regards,
Mike
One more thing NASA is awesome for.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 10:37 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote:
The short answer is Hell Yes!
Bob-
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From:
That came to the attention of the list several months ago.What's come
out since then, is that the IRS itself hasn't the capacity to even deal with
the 1099's, nor have they the automated capacity to do what Congress
intended they use them for. Nor has Congress provided the means of
ATT around here charges $75/mo for DSL with static IPs. Keep in mind that is
their basic static IP service for this area.
--
Adam Kennedy
Network Engineer
Omnicity, Inc.
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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf
Of Jeremie Chism
ah you might want to double check that... ATT has introduced some
very aggressive 12 month promotional pricing recently..
Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet Telecom
On 8/4/2010 2:06 PM, Adam Kennedy wrote:
ATT around here charges $75/mo for DSL with static IPs. Keep in mind that is
their
Congratulations to Dave Hannum at New Era on his USDA award today.
Southern Ohio Communications also pulled one down. It's a good day for
WISPs in Southern Ohio all around. Nice job guys.
Chris Cooper
Intelliwave LLC
Let's hope it turns out to be nothing. Would be burdensome. For some more
than others.
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From: MDK rea...@muddyfrogwater.us
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2010 10:56 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: New Tax Recordkeeping Rules Will
If I have a site with, say, Ubiquiti Rocket M5 radios plugged into
120 degree sector antennas, with Airmax (TDMA) turned on, do they
have to be on separate frequencies, or can they coexist on one? The
5.8 GHz band is kind of crowded to be having three access frequencies
plus two or more
It will not work.
But you would be surprised how well these run at 5 or 10 MHz channels.
Jerry Richardson
Sent Mobile
On Aug 4, 2010, at 12:33 PM, Fred R. Goldstein
fgoldst...@ionary.com wrote:
If I have a site with, say, Ubiquiti Rocket M5 radios plugged into
120 degree sector antennas,
At 8/4/2010 03:37 PM, Jerry Richardson wrote:
It will not work.
But you would be surprised how well these run at 5 or 10 MHz channels.
With how much spacing between them? If I could put them on adjacent
10 MHz center frequencies, that would solve a lot of problems, and
even 5 MHz channels
Jerry Richardson
Sent Mobile
On Aug 4, 2010, at 12:58 PM, Fred Goldstein fgoldst...@ionary.com
wrote:
At 8/4/2010 03:37 PM, Jerry Richardson wrote:
It will not work.
But you would be surprised how well these run at 5 or 10 MHz
channels.
With how much spacing between them? If I
At 8/4/2010 04:03 PM, you wrote:
Jerry Richardson
Sent Mobile
Jerry, did the body of your message get lost? I just got your .sig. Thanks.
On Aug 4, 2010, at 12:58 PM, Fred Goldstein fgoldst...@ionary.com
wrote:
At 8/4/2010 03:37 PM, Jerry Richardson wrote:
It will not work.
But you
UBNT support for some reason has been unresponsive to me the past couple
of days, so I was wondering if anyone here had experience with this.
When we connect UBNT 802.11N hardware to our legacy APs (all StarOS V3,
G/A), we associate just fine and the connection performs without
complaint.
Jerry you are a man of few words.
Invisible wisdom.
Steve Barnes
RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf
Of Fred Goldstein
Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2010 4:25 PM
To: WISPA General List
Try nelloinc.com
chris cooper wrote:
Does anyone know where I can find a non penetrating roof mount sizeable
enough to hold a couple of 24 drums? It needs to be able to fit over
the peak of a roof and have space on both sides for ballast. Cant seem
to locate such a beast readily.
Thanks
Something like this?
http://tinyurl.com/235nzf8
Regards,
Chuck Hogg
Shelby Broadband
502-722-9292
ch...@shelbybb.com
http://www.shelbybb.com
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Scott Reed
Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2010
Well this is the formula we are using Under perfect conditions...
with 802.11n 40mhz channel = MCS 15 = 270/300mbps (air rate)
connection.
20mhz channel = MCS 15 = 130mbs (air rate)
connection
10mhz channel = MCS 15 = 65mbs
Man, I wish I had a hosting center close. I am trying to get an idea of
how many are actually using wholesale bandwidth compared to DSL/CABLE
connections. Some cable providers actually let you resale their business
class connections. My partner and I were discussing the pro's and con's of
using a
Mid Ohio - Indy Cars?
-Gary-
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From: Josh Luthman
To: WISPA General List
Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2010 12:16 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] URGENT recover deleted folders
Are you headed towards Lexington this weekend?
On Aug 4, 2010 12:11 PM, Kurt
The ALMS, yes :)
On Aug 4, 2010 5:38 PM, KosiNet Wireless wirel...@kosinet.com wrote:
Mid Ohio - Indy Cars?
-Gary-
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From: Josh Luthman
To: WISPA General List
Sent: Wednesday, A...
On Aug 4, 2010 12:11 PM, Kurt Fankhauser k...@wavelinc.com wrote:
I sure
Will try to get Roger Coudé on this as soon as it is known how to get it!
F.
--
fmen...@xittel.net
On 2010-08-03, at 22:37, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote:
The short answer is Hell Yes!
Bob-
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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org
Let me know if y'all are coming. We're going to be there, as we're providing
bandwidth to the IZOD / Indycar guys for the weekend. Links from Mansfield down
to the track.
Pretty cool stuff
-Gary-
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From: Josh Luthman
To: WISPA General List
Sent:
Awesome! I will be there. Headed there Friday.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 5:50 PM, KosiNet Wireless wirel...@kosinet.com wrote:
Let me know if y'all are coming. We're going to be there, as we're
For UBNT 900 I have serious doubts you could cram more than 3x 5MHz channels
into the 30MHz and have it work without sync (behold the power of Canopy!).
5MHz channels and 5MHz spacing might look like:
1 = 905.0 (902.5-907.5)
2 = 915.0 (912.5-917.5)
3 = 925.0 (922.5-927.5)
I have doubts even
At 8/4/2010 09:55 PM, Jerry Richardson wrote:
Content-Language: en-US
Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
boundary=_000_23DADC444ADCA14F88BD510F7E6BAA2B66B3628403VMBX116ihoste_
For UBNT 900 I have serious doubts you could cram more than 3x 5MHz
channels into the 30MHz and have it work
That's kinda what I was getting at. 4 5MHz channels seems ambitious. Using two
seems like the least risky.
What's lightly loaded? Unfortunately there is no way that I can think of to
predict the point where it will break. Could happen at 10 users? Could scale to
50 users.
- Jerry
From:
I know.
It's a given.
Have a wasteful day.
Bob-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Robert West
Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2010 10:46 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] URGENT recover deleted folders
You suck.
Yeah. So I raised hell and climbed the tree. So finally, four days after
hobbling in the new space, up shows 2 big ass trucks and TW installer boys.
(Not to be sexist. Even TW warner knows that males are better at the
install. Truth sucks, not my fault.) Installer boys are actually customers
Who is your upstream provider? Any issues with them passing the V6?
Been thinking of making that jump but it seems to be a bastard scheme. Gets
no respect. Any major issues?
Bob-
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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of
I think I found it. It's here in a corn field in Ohio.
Bob-
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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2010 7:22 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Orthogon Gemini PoE Injector
True. And if you go with fiber, the IP's are free and are usually via the
Telecom. If Time Warner Proper, 15 bucks.
Bob-
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2010 8:06 AM
To:
Liam is a REALLY good guy. I've been taking time to mentor him and he
finally made his first backhaul link. WAY TO GO LIAM! Met him at his first
grain leg, climbed it a few times, instructed him. Dropped a rope for him.
He's a quick learner and is really dedicated to getting this done RIGHT!
But NOT Old Milwaukee. Josh has a jones for Old Milwaukee.We've had an
intervention but he still insists on the old Milwaukee.
Bob-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2010 11:57 AM
To: WISPA
Very Good! SOC, good work!!!
Bob-
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of chris cooper
Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2010 2:51 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: [WISPA] Ohio WISPS Get USDA Funding
Congratulations to Dave
A mess. Just run Air View and it will answer your question. As long as one
radio can see one of the other radios, it's messed up to no end. I have
seen, however, some pretty nice but large shields that will isolate the
sectors but in the end, just change the freakin' channels, already!
I keep a 10mhz separation between the channels. Lesson learned.
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Fred Goldstein
Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2010 3:54 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Multiple sectors, one
True. I went to all 10mhz, smooth as silk. (As long as I paid respect to
the spectrum analyzer genie)
20mhz was issues.
---Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Jerry Richardson
Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2010 3:37 PM
To:
Thanks Chris!
Dave Hannum
New Era Broadband, LLC
On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 2:50 PM, chris cooper ccoo...@intelliwave.comwrote:
Congratulations to Dave Hannum at New Era on his USDA award today.
Southern Ohio Communications also pulled one down. It's a good day for
WISPs in Southern Ohio all
I ignore the IRS. I have a lawyer for all that. Oh, and a bail
fund
I have a bonus card with the bail bondsman, I have 5 punches already so my
next bail is free!
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of MDK
I have at least 4 business class connections as well as the fiber but just
make sure you have written permission from their sales department or at
least acknowledgement that you are in the business of reselling the access.
Any salesperson will give you that, they just want the sale. It gets you
I agree.
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Fred Goldstein
Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2010 4:25 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Multiple sectors, one frequency?
At 8/4/2010 04:03 PM, you wrote:
Jerry
Excuse me? Never had Old Milwaukee, I am not a very experienced drinker.
Even though there is a kegerator 25 feet away...
On Aug 4, 2010 11:41 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote:
But NOT Old Milwaukee. Josh has a jones for Old Milwaukee.We’ve had an
intervention but he still
True.
Bob-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Robert West
Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2010 10:51 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] URGENT recover deleted folders
I know.
It's a given.
Have a wasteful day.
Bob-
At 8/4/2010 11:50 PM, Robert West wrote:
A mess. Just run Air View and it will answer your question. As long as one
radio can see one of the other radios, it's messed up to no end. I have
seen, however, some pretty nice but large shields that will isolate the
sectors but in the end, just change
Always in denial. We talked about that in therapy, remember?
You first have to admit that you have a problem.
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2010 12:02 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject:
So stop already.
You're bumming me out.
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Robert West
Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2010 12:05 AM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] URGENT recover deleted folders
True.
Bob-
From:
Never!
On Aug 5, 2010 12:52 AM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote:
Always in denial. We talked about that in therapy, remember?
You first have to admit that you have a problem.
*From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On
Behalf Of *Josh
**sigh**
We'll talk.
I'll get the others together again.
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2010 12:54 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] URGENT recover deleted folders
Fred, a guy on the UBNT site was offering some RF shields for the UBNT
sectors. Those, combined with spacing and screening and grounding,
appeared to bring the RXSL down low enough to actually put the same
frequencies on the same tower.Or, if it were a building or water tank,
But, Airmax
So maybe a Canopy style backhaul would be the better choice?
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of MDK
Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2010 1:14 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Multiple sectors, one frequency?
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