ah.... you might want to double check that... AT&T has introduced some very aggressive 12 month promotional pricing recently..
Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet& Telecom On 8/4/2010 2:06 PM, Adam Kennedy wrote: > AT&T around here charges $75/mo for DSL with static IPs. Keep in mind that is > their basic static IP service for this area. > > -- > Adam Kennedy > Network Engineer > Omnicity, Inc. > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of Jeremie Chism > Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 10:29 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] XBOX live, NAT, and UPnP > > I see 15/month for static public all the time here. I guess it depends > on your market. But I also have comcast doing 50/5 here to. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Aug 2, 2010, at 6:27 PM, John Thomas<[email protected]> wrote: > > >> And if I were your client, and you told me $10 for an IP address, I would >> find a new ISP. The most I have ever seen charged was $5 a month. >> >> John >> >> Kurt Fankhauser<[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >>> Everything i keep coming up with to make this work "ideal" according to the >>> customer is I"m gonna have to sell them a public ip for $10/month *grins* >>> and then make sure their CPE is in bridge mode and assign that static to the >>> customers router so they can enable UPnP themselves. >>> >>> -Kurt Fankhauser >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Josh Luthman"<[email protected]> >>> To: "WISPA General List"<[email protected]> >>> Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 11:45 AM >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] XBOX live, NAT, and UPnP >>> >>> >>> >>>> Don't the majority of us NAT at the customer SM? >>>> >>>> Josh Luthman >>>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>> Suite 1337 >>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 11:31 AM, Adam Kennedy<[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I would agree that it is a security hole for an ISP. UPnP would let me do >>>>> my own forwards for just about any port I want, including SSH, telnet and >>>>> web. For that matter, I could just be selfish and port map every port >>>>> from 1024 through 65535 to my IP, completely killing access to anyone >>>>> else. >>>>> >>>>> In an ISP environment, the best option really is to disable UPnP if you >>>>> are doing NAT. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Adam Kennedy >>>>> Network Engineer >>>>> Omnicity, Inc. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On >>>>> Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer >>>>> Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 10:43 AM >>>>> To: WISPA General List >>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] XBOX live, NAT, and UPnP >>>>> >>>>> Man that sucks. We turn off upnp on ALL routers. I've always been told >>>>> that it's a big security hole. >>>>> >>>>> Thoughts on that? >>>>> marlon >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: "Josh Luthman"<[email protected]> >>>>> To: "WISPA General List"<[email protected]> >>>>> Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 7:29 AM >>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] XBOX live, NAT, and UPnP >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I don't seem to have any issues with double or triple NAT. >>>>> >>>>> When I was working with MT to fix the upnp issue with Xboxes. I have >>>>> it marked as 4.6 with modifications (it was an unofficial 4.6 they >>>>> gave me) so I would say 4.7 or higher should enable Xbox upnp. Even >>>>> this requires a public IP on the Mikrotik to remove even nice strict >>>>> (I think it's called open?). >>>>> >>>>> Josh Luthman >>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>>> Suite 1337 >>>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 10:07 AM, Kurt Fankhauser<[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> So does anyone here have any customers that use XBOX live and bark to >>>>>> you >>>>>> about you NAT? Apparently the XBOX live service is very picky about >>>>>> being >>>>>> behind any NAT device and its ability to make connections to other >>>>>> servers. >>>>>> From what I gathered is that the LIVE service uses Universal Plug and >>>>>> Play >>>>>> (UPnP) to get around this but the question I have is. If your doing >>>>>> masquerade on a Mikrotik Core Router should you enable UPnP on that >>>>>> device? >>>>>> Or should I just issue public IP's to the customer that games and let >>>>>> them >>>>>> worry about it? And if you have UPnP enabled on the core router and then >>>>>> do >>>>>> a double-NAT through the customers Linksys router with UPnP enable does >>>>>> that >>>>>> not work because of the double-NAT? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Kurt Fankhauser >>>>>> WAVELINC >>>>>> P.O. Box 126 >>>>>> Bucyrus, OH 44820 >>>>>> 419-562-6405 >>>>>> www.wavelinc.com >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >>>>>> http://signup.wispa.org/ >>>>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> >>>>>> WISPA Wireless List: [email protected] >>>>>> >>>>>> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >>>>>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>>>>> >>>>>> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> WISPA Wants You! 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