Ok, so to keep to code, we have a GFCI outlet for most of our towers. One
of them tripped last night, causing me to have to put on some 80 miles just
to push a button (yes, it could have been much worse).
Is there anything to prevent stupid outages like this from happening without
violating
You have to have GFCI outlets indoors? I've never heard of that
regulation before.
A few thoughts come to mind:
* Battery backup with 2 or so hours of run time along with a remote page
for a power outage. Doesn't prevent you from having to dispatch but it
keeps you from having an outage.
*
We don't use them at towers, but I have here at home auto resetting GFCI
outlets for my
Saltwater reef tank. Got them from Home Depot.. They reset automatically
after a few mins..
Ryan
On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 7:08 AM, Matt Hoppes mhop...@indigowireless.comwrote:
You have to have GFCI outlets
You could always use a LocoM900 with the omni, but don't expect
to go very far through trees but better than 2.4.
-- Original Message --
From: Eduardo edua...@webjogger.net
Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 17:26:14
Is there a remote power strip that can be activated by a cell phone?
i.e.
strip cell phone pstn my computer
Victoria Proffer
http://www.stlwimax.com/ STLWiMAX, LLC
314-974-5600
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Ryan Ghering
http://dataprobe.com/remote-reboot.html
I've used some of their older 'iboots' havent' used their phone devices.
On 3/16/2012 9:40, Victoria Proffer wrote:
Is there a remote power strip that can be activated by a cell phone?
i.e.
strip cell phone pstn my computer
Victoria Proffer
I need any vendors on the list to please contact me on any of their
offerings
for short to medium distance 1 to 6 miles solutions for BH of 100Mbps to
1Gbps.
I need quotes for full installs of these listed hops.
Hop 1: 2 miles
Hop 2: 2.8 miles
Hop 3: 5.6 miles
Hop 4: 2.6 miles
Hop 5: 2.6 miles
Need to share a lot more information for that quote.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Mar 16, 2012 9:52 AM, Ryan Ghering rgher...@gmail.com wrote:
I need any vendors on the list to please contact me on any of their
offerings
for
The remote reboot power strip does nothing for you if the GFCI outlet or
breaker has tripped, that needs to be reset unless it's an auto reset
device.
Thank You,
Brian Webster
www.wirelessmapping.com
www.Broadband-Mapping.com
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org
Like what? :)
Ryan
On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 7:55 AM, Josh Luthman
j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote:
Need to share a lot more information for that quote.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Mar 16, 2012 9:52 AM, Ryan Ghering
Coordinates and tower heights would be a good start.
Matt Hoppes
Director of Information Technology
Indigo Wireless
+1 (570) 723-7312
On 3/16/12 10:03 AM, Ryan Ghering wrote:
Like what? :)
Ryan
On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 7:55 AM, Josh Luthman
j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
Vertical heights. Coordinates. Wind load restriction. Rough budget.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Mar 16, 2012 10:04 AM, Ryan Ghering rgher...@gmail.com wrote:
Like what? :)
Ryan
On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 7:55 AM, Josh
Hi,
Licensed 11ghz with 2ft to 4ft dishes. $15,000 per hop.
Travis
On 3/16/2012 7:52 AM, Ryan Ghering wrote:
I need any vendors on the list to please contact me on any of their
offerings
for short to medium distance 1 to 6 miles solutions for BH of 100Mbps
to 1Gbps.
I need quotes for full
You're going to have a hell of an installation when you find that 6
mile link is between two rohn 25 at 10 feet!
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 10:11 AM, Travis Johnson t...@ida.net wrote:
Hi,
Licensed
Can you set it on an auto-ping?
Victoria Proffer
http://www.stlwimax.com/ STLWiMAX, LLC
314-974-5600
From: Brian Webster [mailto:bwebs...@wirelessmapping.com]
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 9:02 AM
To: victo...@stlbroadband.com; 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Preventing stupid
I don't think you understand. A GFCI outlet is a mechanical device. You
can't reboot it.
Regards,
Chuck
On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 10:19 AM, Victoria Proffer
victo...@stlbroadband.com wrote:
Can you set it on an auto-ping?
** **
Victoria Proffer
STLWiMAX, LLC
One of these
http://www.google.com/products/catalog?q=gfci+outletoe=utf-8rls=org.mozilla:en-US:officialclient=firefox-aum=1ie=UTF-8tbm=shopcid=16532274097447588363sa=Xei=Ik5jT6H-Nubk0QHnkZWZCAved=0CIoBEPICMAI
Where did you one that auto resets, Ryan?
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct:
I'm not doing it... I just put a number out there so he could realize
there is way more to it than posting a distance. :)
Travis
On 3/16/2012 8:18 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:
You're going to have a hell of an installation when you find that 6
mile link is between two rohn 25 at 10 feet!
Josh
Oh, yeah ... I see, so than you have to reset the circuit, which requires a
flip.
Victoria Proffer
http://www.stlwimax.com/ STLWiMAX, LLC
314-974-5600
From: Chuck Hogg [mailto:ch...@shelbybb.com]
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 9:24 AM
To: victo...@stlbroadband.com; WISPA General List
Cc:
I thought $15k was including next day installation with your crew! I
can supply the extra hard hat if you need it.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 10:32 AM, Travis Johnson t...@ida.net wrote:
I'm not doing
Yeah. Drop the GFCI.
If an inspector whines about it get his home phone and tell him he'll have to
meet you at the site every time it goes down because the GFCI technology is so
worthless. It won't take but 2 trips and he'll beg you to take them out!
And if you think it's bad now. Just wait
I like the digital loggers products a LOT better than dataprobe.
Never had a DL unit start turning it's self off when it's not supposed to. I
have had that with an iboot.
marlon
- Original Message -
From: Jay DeBoer
To: wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 6:47
Blair, how is this setup working? Is this a real Option for future
deployments? I have a grain Leg that would be perfect 25 homes within a 2 mile
radius, however, light to moderate woods at 1 Mile almost 100% around the Gran
leg. Backhaul not a problem from top but without 900 I cant get 1
But what happens if something shorts and it's traced down to the fact you
removed the GFCI. I would not want to bet my business on it. I would have
an outlet hardwired into a nema box. That should satisfy code, but I would
check.
Justin
From: Marlon K. Schafer (509-982-2181)
That's what breakers are for - shorts.
GFCIs are for quick blows for things like dropping something in
water. I still don't understand why it would be required in a tower
building.
On 3/16/12 11:11 AM, Justin Wilson wrote:
But what happens if something shorts and it's traced down to the
Just replace it. It's probably failing. They're a pain when they start failing
but when you get a good one they're fine.
Greg
On Mar 16, 2012, at 8:34 AM, Troy Settle wrote:
Ok, so to keep to code, we have a GFCI outlet for most of our towers. One of
them tripped last night, causing me to
My point was if Code actually requires it, which in this case it may
not,
don't replace it because it's an inconvenience. You are potentially
liable if something were to happen if you are the one who went against
code. Instead find a workaround. If code doesn't require it, get an
On 03/16/2012 11:27 AM, Matt Hoppes wrote:
That's what breakers are for - shorts.
GFCIs are for quick blows for things like dropping something in
water. I still don't understand why it would be required in a tower
building.
I agree, there's fuse panel, why the heck is a GFCI needed too
that 6 mile has a 180 foot tower on one end and a 40 foot on the other..
lol..
On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 8:18 AM, Josh Luthman
j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote:
You're going to have a hell of an installation when you find that 6
mile link is between two rohn 25 at 10 feet!
Josh Luthman
I'll do it for $50. No uptime requirements were given.
On 3/16/12 11:35 AM, Ryan Ghering wrote:
that 6 mile has a 180 foot tower on one end and a 40 foot on the other..
lol..
On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 8:18 AM, Josh Luthman
j...@imaginenetworksllc.com mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:
To add to the anecdotal evidence against cheap GFCI outlets, I had to
remove one in a building when spontaneous trips started occurring randomly
(e.g. once every couple weeks) after an adjacent building received a direct
lightening strike.
For that matter, the GFCI contributed nothing to
As for Vertical just say minimum of 40 foot on 3 end point and up to 180 at
the top of the tower.
Coords? well thats not necessary and I can't give out, due to a NDA
Wind loads? each send point is built to sustain up to a 3 foot dish with
room to spare.
Budget.. There is no budget here, lets
Without coordinates you aren't going to get anything from a lot of
people, myself included. I can't promise anything is going to work if I
don't know where the towers are, what the terrain is like, etc.
There are hops I have between 180 foot towers that require an
intermediate hop to make it
No licensed link manufacturer will be working with you without coordinates.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Mar 16, 2012 11:39 AM, Ryan Ghering rgher...@gmail.com wrote:
As for Vertical just say minimum of 40 foot on 3 end point
I thought GFCI's were to protect circuits from moisture mainly, AFAIK they
do not provide any type of protection for devices other than cutting the
circuit if it senses a ground fault.
DJ Anderson
Shelby Broadband
On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 11:38 AM, Ben West b...@gowasabi.net wrote:
To add to
They can have them I just can't give them out on a public list..
That's why I Asked folks to contact me..
Ryan
On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 9:45 AM, Josh Luthman
j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote:
No licensed link manufacturer will be working with you without coordinates.
Josh Luthman
Office:
Email Daniel White w Baltic.
On Mar 16, 2012 10:54 AM, Ryan Ghering rgher...@gmail.com wrote:
They can have them I just can't give them out on a public list..
That's why I Asked folks to contact me..
Ryan
On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 9:45 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
wrote:
Daniel White is with SAF.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 11:58 AM, Zach Mann zma...@gmail.com wrote:
Email Daniel White w Baltic.
On Mar 16, 2012 10:54 AM, Ryan Ghering rgher...@gmail.com wrote:
They
This is true. The GFCI outlet happened to already be in the building when
I installed equipment. It turns out the GFCI outlet itself could have
benefited from lightening isolation.
On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 10:45 AM, DJ Anderson d...@shelbybb.com wrote:
I thought GFCI's were to protect circuits
E-Mail Jon Hoeweler with Streakwave.
jon [at] streakwave.com
Tell him Matt sent you.
On 3/16/12 11:59 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:
Daniel White is with SAF.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 11:58 AM,
At 3/16/2012 11:45 AM, JoshL wrote:
No licensed link manufacturer will be working with you without coordinates.
I suspect he'll volunteer coordinates to a bona fide offeror. Just
not to the list.
It looks like some of the shorter hops could be handled with 24 GHz
unlicensed, if only
I appreciate the shout out either way!
Should anyone else be interested, below is my SAF contact info.
Daniel White Sales Manager Western US
SAF Tehnika JSC
Cell: +1 303-746-3590
SAF office: +371 67046840
Skype: danieldwhite
daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com
-Original Message-
From:
There you go, send your coordinates and get some CFIP Luminas. Run
fiber for data and cat5 for power. I know first hand it works quite
well.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 12:06 PM, Daniel White
Ohh and 5 9's is required..
On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 9:39 AM, Ryan Ghering rgher...@gmail.com wrote:
As for Vertical just say minimum of 40 foot on 3 end point and up to 180
at the top of the tower.
Coords? well thats not necessary and I can't give out, due to a NDA
Wind loads? each send
Thanks Matt!
Yeah, the outlet itself is on a post next to the tower foundation and a
dropcord feeds into a NEMA box mounted on the tower (no shack). We have a
few sites set up like this, and I think I'm going to hardwire everything
before we get much further into lightning season.
Since
Licensed and a ptp600?
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Mar 16, 2012 12:36 PM, Ryan Ghering rgher...@gmail.com wrote:
Ohh and 5 9's is required..
On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 9:39 AM, Ryan Ghering rgher...@gmail.com wrote:
As for
Five 9's with 23GHz at 256QAM is easy for most of these links. the 6 mile
link is either 18GHz or 23GHz depending on preferences
Daniel White
(303) 746-3590
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 10:57 AM
I'm just curious what is keeping MT or UBNT out of the licensed low cost
radio business? Is it FCC Certification because it surely can't be
quality of equipment reasons?
Happy Friday and St. Patty's Day,
Forbes
On 3/16/2012 7:11 AM, Travis Johnson wrote:
Hi,
Licensed 11ghz with 2ft to 4ft
Along those same lines, what is keeping them from making 24ghz unlicensed
p2p radios?
-Kyle Duren
On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 10:07 AM, Forbes Mercy forbes.me...@wabroadband.com
wrote:
I'm just curious what is keeping MT or UBNT out of the licensed low cost
radio business? Is it FCC
I assume its probably because wifi chips wont meet the spectrum
masks required. Also 24ghz requires a transmit channel and a receive
channel be many hundred mhz apart.
On 03/16/2012 10:35 AM, Kyle Duren wrote:
Along those same lines, what is keeping them from
Snaplink makes an upconverted Atheros based radio in the 24GHz band that is
TDD. before buying one I'd find another WISP user that has deployed one and
ask them how well it performs :-)
From a price perspective I think they are pretty close to a SAF Freemile
link anyways.
We put in a enclosure and that let us say it was 'indoors' and drop
the gfci requirement.
On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 6:04 AM, Troy Settle tset...@thewiredroad.net wrote:
Ok, so to keep to code, we have a GFCI outlet for most of our towers. One
of them tripped last night, causing me to have to put
It is widely suspected that UBNT is announcing a gigabit licensed link next
week.
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
- Original Message -
From: Forbes Mercy forbes.me...@wabroadband.com
To: wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 12:07:01
So they crammed five Rockets into a single case? LOL
Travis
On 3/16/2012 1:39 PM, wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote:
It is widely suspected that UBNT is announcing a gigabit licensed link next
week.
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
- Original
Next stupid outage at a different site.
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Automatic Transfer Switch
APC 450 rack mount UPS
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