[WISPA] MDU wiring

2013-10-29 Thread Gino Villarini
Given the following scenario: New MDU , 15 floors, telco room on top, telco closet on each floor with conduit to each Unit... what would be the cheapest way to wire this for Cat5 Ethernet? Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.

Re: [WISPA] MDU wiring

2013-10-29 Thread Sam Tetherow
Switch on each floor, cat5e to each unit. If you have the ability, wire each floor back to the telco room on the roof, otherwise you could 'daisy-chain' each floor to the one above it back to the roof. Second option has a lot more points of failure though. On 10/29/2013 09:05 AM, Gino

Re: [WISPA] MDU wiring

2013-10-29 Thread Josh Luthman
And bottle necks. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Oct 29, 2013 10:13 AM, Sam Tetherow tethe...@shwisp.net wrote: Switch on each floor, cat5e to each unit. If you have the ability, wire each floor back to the telco room on the

Re: [WISPA] MDU wiring

2013-10-29 Thread Gino Villarini
Then I have to add a switch and ups on each floor... I was thinking of home running all to the top floor... no? Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On

Re: [WISPA] MDU wiring

2013-10-29 Thread Sam Tetherow
Guess it depends on what you consider cheapest. Homerun to the roof will add more labor, wiring complexity (and size) and you will probably run into distance issues on a 15 story MDU. On 10/29/2013 09:20 AM, Gino Villarini wrote: Then I have to add a switch and ups on each floor... I was

Re: [WISPA] MDU wiring

2013-10-29 Thread Josh Luthman
That's what I would do. Probably fiber between floor/top. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Oct 29, 2013 10:21 AM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com wrote: Then I have to add a switch and ups on each floor… I was thinking of

[WISPA] WISP Industry Growth Rate

2013-10-29 Thread Jeff Broadwick
Hi All, I'd appreciate your help. We are trying to find a good number for the WISP industry annual growth rate. I've seen a number of 4%, but that was just for the really big carriers. Does anyone know of a source? Regards, Jeff Jeff Broadwick Bitlomat Sales Director 847-238-2481 Office

Re: [WISPA] MDU wiring

2013-10-29 Thread Fred Goldstein
On 10/29/2013 10:20 AM, Gino Villarini wrote: Then I have to add a switch and ups on each floor... I was thinking of home running all to the top floor... no? How big is each floor? This may be a case where exact mapping of the route matters. Cat5e at 100 Mbps is rated for 100 meters

Re: [WISPA] MDU wiring

2013-10-29 Thread Chris Fabien
Can you put switches every few floors, like every 3 or 5? Would cut down the wiring distance and reduce to only needing 5 or 3 UPSes, racks, etc. On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 10:20 AM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com wrote: Then I have to add a switch and ups on each floor… I was thinking of

Re: [WISPA] MDU wiring

2013-10-29 Thread Mike Hammett
I don't know if you'd be within the distance limitations. TP-Link switches are pretty cheap. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent:

Re: [WISPA] MDU wiring

2013-10-29 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
Depending on how many units are on each floor... You might be able to save some $ if you install POE powered Switches on each of the floors, thus concentrating / reducing the number of UPS's required. You could do a Passive POE powered from a couple of of the Telco Closets (using Mikrotik for

Re: [WISPA] WISP Industry Growth Rate

2013-10-29 Thread Sean Heskett
Revenue or subscribers? For us we have seen a drop in our % growth of subs since the economic downturn. I think we are around 20% this year (was 40-50%) But thanks to Netflix we have seen a huge amount of growth in ARPU. I think our revenue is up 35-40% this year. Kinda crazy but I don't mind

Re: [WISPA] WISP Industry Growth Rate

2013-10-29 Thread Greg Osborn
Too broad of a question really. Here in Indiana, there isn't much low hanging fruit left to chase. Beyond telcos, cellcos, and cable, there are multiple wisps to compete against. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jeff

Re: [WISPA] MDU wiring

2013-10-29 Thread Jerry Richardson (airCloud)
The driving factor is # of units per floor, and distance to furthest port. From there you will be able to determine where your switches need to be. In some cases we have had to split the building and put switches on every other floor at both ends of the building because the horizontal run was too

Re: [WISPA] WISP Industry Growth Rate

2013-10-29 Thread Jeff Broadwick
Both measures actually. I think you need both for an accurate picture. Regards, Jeff Broadwick Bitlomat Sales Director 847-238-2481 Office 574-220-7826 Cell www.bitlomat.com https://www.facebook.com/Bitlomat http://www.linkedin.com/company/bitlomat From:

[WISPA] Setting up Nanostations

2013-10-29 Thread ~NGL~
I have 2 Nanostations M2 that will not save a SSID change. When I change it click on change, then apply and click on the Main tab it goes to the login page. I login and the SSID is back to the default. What is going on? NGL If you can read this Thank A Teacher. And if it's in English

Re: [WISPA] Setting up Nanostations

2013-10-29 Thread Josh Luthman
What browser are you using? Try Chrome in Incognito mode, see if you can reproduce it there. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 12:53 PM, ~NGL~ n...@ngl.net wrote: ** I have 2 Nanostations M2 that will not

Re: [WISPA] Setting up Nanostations

2013-10-29 Thread ~NGL~
IE 8 From: Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2013 9:54 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Setting up Nanostations What browser are you using? Try Chrome in Incognito mode, see if you can reproduce it there. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct:

Re: [WISPA] Setting up Nanostations

2013-10-29 Thread Mike Hammett
On purpose?-Mike HammettIntelligent Computing Solutionshttp://www.ics-il.comFrom: "~NGL~" n...@ngl.netTo: "WISPA General List" wireless@wispa.orgSent: Tuesday, October 29, 2013 11:56:51 AMSubject: Re: [WISPA] Setting up Nanostations IE 8 From: Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, October

Re: [WISPA] Setting up Nanostations

2013-10-29 Thread Josh Luthman
That's likely to be your problem. I've never had a problem with the AirMax GUI on Chrome or Firefox. There was (is?) a dumb bug in legacy stuff with Chrome. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 12:55 PM, Mike

Re: [WISPA] Setting up Nanostations

2013-10-29 Thread ~NGL~
I have been using IE on all makes of radios for several years with no problem. If I have to I will. NGL From: Mike Hammett Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2013 9:55 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Setting up Nanostations On purpose? - Mike Hammett Intelligent

Re: [WISPA] Setting up Nanostations

2013-10-29 Thread Josh Luthman
Try Chrome. If it fixes it, that's your problem. If it doesn't, there are other things you can try. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 1:03 PM, ~NGL~ n...@ngl.net wrote: ** I have been using IE on all

Re: [WISPA] Setting up Nanostations

2013-10-29 Thread ~NGL~
Same results with Chrome. What now? NGL From: Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2013 10:08 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Setting up Nanostations Try Chrome. If it fixes it, that's your problem. If it doesn't, there are other things you can try. Josh

Re: [WISPA] Setting up Nanostations

2013-10-29 Thread Josh Luthman
Is it auto filling? Did you use an Incognito Tab? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 2:15 PM, ~NGL~ n...@ngl.net wrote: ** Same results with Chrome. What now? NGL *From:* Josh Luthman

Re: [WISPA] Setting up Nanostations

2013-10-29 Thread Josh Luthman
It also kind of sounds like you might have two devices with the same IP (hence the login requirement again). Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 2:18 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote: Is it

Re: [WISPA] Setting up Nanostations

2013-10-29 Thread Zach Mann
Clear cache ? On Tuesday, October 29, 2013, Josh Luthman wrote: Is it auto filling? Did you use an Incognito Tab? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 2:15 PM, ~NGL~ n...@ngl.net wrote: ** Same

Re: [WISPA] Setting up Nanostations

2013-10-29 Thread ~NGL~
No auto filling Yes Incognito Tab This is setup on a radio only basis No Network. New Chrome installation. NGL From: Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2013 11:19 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Setting up Nanostations It also kind of sounds like you might

Re: [WISPA] Setting up Nanostations

2013-10-29 Thread Steve Barnes
Had this issue a few weeks ago. Had to down flash the firmware then upgrade to get it working. Steve Barnes General Manager PCSWIN.com Howard LLC. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of ~NGL~ Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2013 2:35 PM To: WISPA General

Re: [WISPA] Setting up Nanostations

2013-10-29 Thread Josh Luthman
I'd try that, too. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 2:37 PM, Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com wrote: Had this issue a few weeks ago. Had to down flash the firmware then upgrade to get it working. **

Re: [WISPA] Setting up Nanostations

2013-10-29 Thread ~NGL~
I have downloaded the and installed the firmware and reset the config. No Help NGL From: Steve Barnes Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2013 11:37 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Setting up Nanostations Had this issue a few weeks ago. Had to down flash the firmware then

Re: [WISPA] Setting up Nanostations

2013-10-29 Thread Josh Luthman
With new firmware and a reset config I think it has to be your machine. Nothing should persist after those two actions. Have you tried a second computer? How about a mobile phone? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Oct 29,

Re: [WISPA] Setting up Nanostations

2013-10-29 Thread timothy steele
What firmware version are you using? — Sent from Mailbox for iPhone On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 2:49 PM, ~NGL~ n...@ngl.net wrote: I have downloaded the and installed the firmware and reset the config. No Help NGL From: Steve Barnes Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2013 11:37 AM To: WISPA

Re: [WISPA] Setting up Nanostations

2013-10-29 Thread ~NGL~
The latest, the same that was on it. NGL From: timothy steele Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2013 12:05 PM To: WISPA General List Cc: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Setting up Nanostations What firmware version are you using? — Sent from Mailbox for iPhone On Tue,

Re: [WISPA] Setting up Nanostations

2013-10-29 Thread ~NGL~
This is the third machine. NGL From: Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2013 12:04 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Setting up Nanostations With new firmware and a reset config I think it has to be your machine. Nothing should persist after those two actions.

Re: [WISPA] Setting up Nanostations

2013-10-29 Thread timothy steele
Hold reset down for 10 sec that will do a TFTP factory reset after all light start blinking reboot it do at your own risk — Sent from Mailbox for iPhone On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 3:43 PM, ~NGL~ n...@ngl.net wrote: This is the third machine. NGL From: Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, October

Re: [WISPA] Tower

2013-10-29 Thread Brian
Craig 100 foot in guyed and 75 in freestanding. Complete kits are ok. Thanks, Brian On 10/27/2013 7:31 PM, Craig House wrote: Brian. What heights are you looking for? I can get them for you and have them shipped within a week generally. Are you looking for complete kits with base plate