it comes down to it
>affects so very few people that for most people it really seems "unlimited".
>
>/ Eje
>
>-Original Message-
>From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>Behalf Of RickG
>Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 8:56 PM
>T
Scottie Arnett
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 10:43 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Mikrotik] bittorrents
I think you said it best here:
>Some
> of these downloads are extremely large and difficult to host and
distribute
> of a traditional server because once a large
I think you said it best here:
>Some
> of these downloads are extremely large and difficult to host and
distribute
> of a traditional server because once a large update is released you will
> have tens of thousands people that will download said update within hours.
> Support nightmare to try to g
> have good access and get what they pay for which means control and
>>>> maintain
>>>> network stability and speed by managing your traffic to a level that is
>>>> good
>>>> for everyone. The more people that blatantly block things and especially
>>>&
Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> From: "Eje Gustafsson"
>> Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 1:57 PM
>> To: "'WISPA General List'"
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Mikrotik] bittor
but states usage of internet means acceptance of the terms you are in deep
>> waters.
>> I personally allow any fileshare application on my network. I do throttle
>> it
>> and only allow a max of 60% of my available bandwidth for fileshare apps
>> shared over all my cu
tions
http://www.ics-il.com
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From: "Eje Gustafsson"
Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 1:57 PM
To: "'WISPA General List'"
Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Mikrotik] bittorrents
> Have you ever played wow and see how their updates
Yes you can if you want to.
/ Eje
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of RickG
Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 9:18 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Mikrotik] bittorrents
I have a MT firewall. Can you run
n
Behalf Of RickG
Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 8:56 PM
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Eje,
I always respect your opinons but let me play "devils advocate". I
agree file-sharing is being forced down ISP's throats, so we have to
deal with it. Many compar
t; bandwidth usage is easy to handle.
>> > Streaming audio/video can only be "fixed" by providing the user with more
>> > "dedicated" bandwidth so less overselling.
>> >
>> > / Eje
>> >
>> > -Original Message-
>&g
#x27;t
> > going
> >>> to be happy.
> >>>
> >>> Say someone buys the Amazon S3 service to have a offsite synced data
> > storage
> >>> service and your blocking it and it takes this person/company hours to
> >>> figure out that you're the blame
ispa.org] On
> Behalf Of RickG
> Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 8:44 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Mikrotik] bittorrents
>
> Fortunately, its not common on my network ether. Just one or two a
> month have to be told.
>
> On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 6:34 PM, J
backhaul and upstream feed. Shape the
> traffic for maximum user experience and everyone is happy.
>
> / Eje
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Josh Luthman
> Sent: Sunday, February 14, 20
Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of RickG
Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 8:44 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Mikrotik] bittorrents
Fortunately, its not common on my network ether. Just one or two a
month have to be told.
org] On
Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 6:54 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Mikrotik] bittorrents
8% of Swedes do peer to peer. I would expect the American population to
have a smaller figure. Regardless, can we not agree it's a small figure?
Josh Luthm
t really
>>> "legally" be blocked anylonger. Throttle them sure but to a reasonable
>>> level, people downloading to much a good AUP should handle if they
>>> download 24/7 and use a large amount of bandwidth.
>>>
>>> /Eje
>>> --Orig
bums (first one was a 4 cd album).
>>
>> And if you have installed Limewire/Kazza or whatever the gamer/mp3r is ready
>> to download torrents with a single click of a webpage just as easy as you
>> download a normal file through a http page but the advantage most of the
>> t
Thats an idea but he's off a repeater so its affecting the backhaul as
well. Maybe I just need better AP & BHs?
On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 1:02 AM, Josh Luthman
wrote:
> Can you put up another link for him specifically? Charge him a large
> install fee to drop the pps on your AP and a bit more mont
gt; download 24/7 and use a large amount of bandwidth.
>>
>> /Eje
>> --Original Message------
>> From: Josh Luthman
>> Sender: wireless-boun...@wispa.org
>> To: WISPA General List
>> ReplyTo: WISPA General List
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Mikrotik] bitto
gt; Sender: wireless-boun...@wispa.org
> To: WISPA General List
> ReplyTo: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Mikrotik] bittorrents
> Sent: Feb 14, 2010 00:02
>
> Can you put up another link for him specifically? Charge him a large
> install fee to drop the pps on your
>> Nine Inch Nails have their official torrent provided through The Pirate
> Bay.
> >> So anyone using LimeWire as you say will access the official way of
> >> downloading the 2 last NIN albums (first one was a 4 cd album).
> >>
> >> And if you have installed Li
t NIN albums (first one was a 4 cd album).
>>
>> And if you have installed Limewire/Kazza or whatever the gamer/mp3r is ready
>> to download torrents with a single click of a webpage just as easy as you
>> download a normal file through a http page but the advantage most of the
re/Kazza or whatever the gamer/mp3r is ready
> to download torrents with a single click of a webpage just as easy as you
> download a normal file through a http page but the advantage most of the
> times faster downloads.
>
> / Eje
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wir
eless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 3:09 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Mikrotik] bittorrents
I never said it was good to block it. I think blocking it is bad. Not sure
where you got that impression. My stance
Maybe the 75 is way too generous then? Hmm...
On 2/14/10, Mike wrote:
> And you would be one of those customers I'd accommodate. Your needs are way
> above average. I do have some techies on my network and I work with them.
> Most of them are happy if their Xboxes work well.
>
> I am of the op
any interactive data
> transfers
> is prioritized (dns, mail, http, messengers to mention a few) above
> fileshare. The advantage to this is that my customer can still download
> things over fileshare and it will not kill their other usage nor my
> available bandwidth either. Works nice
/ Eje
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 12:44 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Mikrotik] bittorrents
I'm not saying there aren't a lot of legal torrents but
Your example is illegally obtaining TV shows and not using a second HTTP
instead of torrent?
Josh Luthman
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that counts.”
--- Winston Churchil
I also get TV shows from the UK and anime, with English subtitles, a
couple of days after it airs in Japan.
The reason I get My Linux ISOs via bittorrent, is that I get them on
release day and the HTTP/FTP servers go down.
On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 12:43 AM, Josh Luthman
wrote:
> I'm not saying th
hman
Sent: Saturday, February 13, 2010 10:44 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Mikrotik] bittorrents
I'm not saying there aren't a lot of legal torrents but I'm saying the
majority are illegal and that torrent is by no means a mainstream protocol
that needs to be supported.
W
I'm not saying there aren't a lot of legal torrents but I'm saying the
majority are illegal and that torrent is by no means a mainstream protocol
that needs to be supported.
Wow patches? Here's some HTTP mirrors...
http://www.wowwiki.com/Patch_mirrors
MT updates? Click the link above it that is
I get my Ubuntu ISOs via Bittorrent.
We block the customer, until they stop, if it is causing problems with
the AP they are on. We have only had problems on our 2.4Ghz and
sometimes 900Mhz APs. We have not yet had any problems on our 5.8Ghz
APs.
On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 12:09 AM, Josh Luthman
wr
e level, people downloading to much a good AUP
should handle if they download 24/7 and use a large amount of bandwidth.
/Eje
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Mikrotik] bittorrents
Sen
Torrents are used by WoW and Mikrotik. What else that you would go
under oath saying you torrented?
On 2/14/10, Robert West wrote:
> We allow but they can't run a server, as in NO sharing. But "allowing"
> means no 24 hour downloading.
>
> Can't get around torrents, even Mikrotik has their upda
Can you put up another link for him specifically? Charge him a large
install fee to drop the pps on your AP and a bit more monthly for the
bandwidth. Ubnt NS5M come to mind.
On 2/14/10, RickG wrote:
> Even though our AUP & TOS does not allow it, I have a customer
> demanding to run bit torrents
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