Re: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz PtP
Why have that, when it can reboot on loss of a ping? From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West Sent: Monday, August 09, 2010 12:48 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz PtP I hear ya, my brother. Had 2 Bullet M5s Stop this week. Had to go out to do a simple reboot. The magic reboot fixed all. I wish the UBNT firmware had a reboot at X day or time function. Id certainly use it. Me- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Dennis Burgess Sent: Sunday, August 08, 2010 7:38 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz PtP We have been trying to use UBNT Nanos for quite a while in trailer parks and other ¼ to ½ mile LoS links. The issues we are finding is that the dang things just stop. The first time we have to do a truck roll to reset the unit, or replace it, it would be cheaper to buy a MT solution. --- Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services Office: 314-735-0270 Website: http://www.linktechs.net <http://www.linktechs.net/> LIVE On-Line Mikrotik <http://www.onlinemikrotiktraining.com> Training - Author of <http://www.routerosbook.com/> "Learn RouterOS" From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Sunday, August 08, 2010 12:34 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz PtP You might have something philosophical there Bob. Do we choose equipment that is like us - lots of trouble and need plenty of attention? LOL! On Sun, Aug 8, 2010 at 1:30 AM, Robert West wrote: But they are awesomely reliable and require no maintenance. Where is the fun in all of that? I desire a product that demands constant attention. -Albert -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Dennis Burgess Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2010 11:03 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz PtP Mikrotik :) -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2010 9:09 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz PtP Does anyone have certified gear other than Motorola and Redline? -- - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz PtP
Here is a simple solution for UBNT Reboots Turn on the SSH Port - then simply assign a username/password to the unit (which you technically already have of course since you have an admin user) Then run a script to go out and poll systems w/ the command reboot pretty simple reboot -y a simple linux box running a shell command on cron can reset tons of radios for you :-) On Aug 9, 2010, at 12:48 AM, Robert West wrote: > I hear ya, my brother. Had 2 Bullet M5’s “Stop” this week. Had to go out to > do a simple reboot. The magic reboot fixed all. I wish the UBNT firmware > had a reboot at “X” day or time function. I’d certainly use it. > > Me- > > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Dennis Burgess > Sent: Sunday, August 08, 2010 7:38 AM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz PtP > > We have been trying to use UBNT Nanos for quite a while in trailer parks and > other ¼ to ½ mile LoS links. The issues we are finding is that the dang > things just stop. The first time we have to do a truck roll to reset the > unit, or replace it, it would be cheaper to buy a MT solution. > > --- > Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer > Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services > Office: 314-735-0270 Website: http://www.linktechs.net > LIVE On-Line Mikrotik Training - Author of "Learn RouterOS" > > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of RickG > Sent: Sunday, August 08, 2010 12:34 AM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz PtP > > You might have something philosophical there Bob. Do we choose equipment that > is like us - lots of trouble and need plenty of attention? LOL! > > On Sun, Aug 8, 2010 at 1:30 AM, Robert West > wrote: > But they are awesomely reliable and require no maintenance. Where is the > fun in all of that? > > I desire a product that demands constant attention. > > -Albert > > > > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Dennis Burgess > Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2010 11:03 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz PtP > > Mikrotik :) > > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Mike Hammett > Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2010 9:09 AM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz PtP > > Does anyone have certified gear other than Motorola and Redline? > > -- > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ _ Glenn Kelley | Principle | HostMedic |www.HostMedic.com Email: gl...@hostmedic.com Pplease don't print this e-mail u
Re: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz PtP
I’ve had various lockups with them. “Mysterious” lockups. They no longer respond will not pass traffic. The power light and network light are all lit but no RSSI lights are lit. All running current firmware, not BETA. After reboot, all good. No idea what causes it. Had issues with the rockets after doing connfigs but that issue went away with a firmware upgrade. Joe- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Faisal Imtiaz Sent: Sunday, August 08, 2010 10:23 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz PtP H.which models .? What version of firmware. ? We have been using the M gear...and have not seen any lockups Fwiw...the also have watchdog built in for reboots... Faisal On Aug 8, 2010, at 7:38 AM, "Dennis Burgess" wrote: We have been trying to use UBNT Nanos for quite a while in trailer parks and other ¼ to ½ mile LoS links. The issues we are finding is that the dang things just stop. The first time we have to do a truck roll to reset the unit, or replace it, it would be cheaper to buy a MT solution. --- Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services Office: 314-735-0270 Website: http://www.linktechs.net LIVE On-Line Mikrotik Training <http://www.onlinemikrotiktraining.com> - Author of <http://www.routerosbook.com/> "Learn RouterOS" From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Sunday, August 08, 2010 12:34 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz PtP You might have something philosophical there Bob. Do we choose equipment that is like us - lots of trouble and need plenty of attention? LOL! On Sun, Aug 8, 2010 at 1:30 AM, Robert West wrote: But they are awesomely reliable and require no maintenance. Where is the fun in all of that? I desire a product that demands constant attention. -Albert -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Dennis Burgess Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2010 11:03 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz PtP Mikrotik :) -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2010 9:09 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz PtP Does anyone have certified gear other than Motorola and Redline? -- - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz PtP
I hear ya, my brother. Had 2 Bullet M5s Stop this week. Had to go out to do a simple reboot. The magic reboot fixed all. I wish the UBNT firmware had a reboot at X day or time function. Id certainly use it. Me- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Dennis Burgess Sent: Sunday, August 08, 2010 7:38 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz PtP We have been trying to use UBNT Nanos for quite a while in trailer parks and other ¼ to ½ mile LoS links. The issues we are finding is that the dang things just stop. The first time we have to do a truck roll to reset the unit, or replace it, it would be cheaper to buy a MT solution. --- Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services Office: 314-735-0270 Website: http://www.linktechs.net <http://www.linktechs.net/> LIVE On-Line Mikrotik Training <http://www.onlinemikrotiktraining.com> - Author of <http://www.routerosbook.com/> "Learn RouterOS" From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Sunday, August 08, 2010 12:34 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz PtP You might have something philosophical there Bob. Do we choose equipment that is like us - lots of trouble and need plenty of attention? LOL! On Sun, Aug 8, 2010 at 1:30 AM, Robert West wrote: But they are awesomely reliable and require no maintenance. Where is the fun in all of that? I desire a product that demands constant attention. -Albert -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Dennis Burgess Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2010 11:03 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz PtP Mikrotik :) -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2010 9:09 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz PtP Does anyone have certified gear other than Motorola and Redline? -- - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz PtP
I've had great luck with Pico units for short distances. On Sun, Aug 8, 2010 at 7:38 AM, Dennis Burgess wrote: > We have been trying to use UBNT Nanos for quite a while in trailer parks > and other ¼ to ½ mile LoS links. The issues we are finding is that the dang > things just stop. The first time we have to do a truck roll to reset the > unit, or replace it, it would be cheaper to buy a MT solution. > > > > *--- > Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer > **Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services > Office*: 314-735-0270 *Website*: http://www.linktechs.net > *LIVE On-Line Mikrotik Training <http://www.onlinemikrotiktraining.com> - > Author > of "Learn RouterOS" <http://www.routerosbook.com/> * > > > > *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On > Behalf Of *RickG > *Sent:* Sunday, August 08, 2010 12:34 AM > > *To:* WISPA General List > *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz PtP > > > > You might have something philosophical there Bob. Do we choose equipment > that is like us - lots of trouble and need plenty of attention? LOL! > > On Sun, Aug 8, 2010 at 1:30 AM, Robert West > wrote: > > But they are awesomely reliable and require no maintenance. Where is the > fun in all of that? > > I desire a product that demands constant attention. > > -Albert > > > > > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Dennis Burgess > Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2010 11:03 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz PtP > > Mikrotik :) > > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Mike Hammett > Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2010 9:09 AM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz PtP > > Does anyone have certified gear other than Motorola and Redline? > > -- > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz PtP
Mike- I think no one has mentioned Alvarion 5.4 PtP yet. We put some of them up a couple of years ago. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Sunday, August 08, 2010 12:17 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz PtP I don't believe there are ANY certified Mikrotik 5.4 GHz solutions. I certainly welcome being corrected on this. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 8/7/2010 10:03 PM, Dennis Burgess wrote: > Mikrotik :) > > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Mike Hammett > Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2010 9:09 AM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz PtP > >Does anyone have certified gear other than Motorola and Redline? > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz PtP
I don't believe there are ANY certified Mikrotik 5.4 GHz solutions. I certainly welcome being corrected on this. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 8/7/2010 10:03 PM, Dennis Burgess wrote: > Mikrotik :) > > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Mike Hammett > Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2010 9:09 AM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz PtP > >Does anyone have certified gear other than Motorola and Redline? > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz PtP
H.which models .? What version of firmware. ? We have been using the M gear...and have not seen any lockups Fwiw...the also have watchdog built in for reboots... Faisal On Aug 8, 2010, at 7:38 AM, "Dennis Burgess" wrote: > We have been trying to use UBNT Nanos for quite a while in trailer parks and > other ¼ to ½ mile LoS links. The issues we are finding is that the dang > things just stop. The first time we have to do a truck roll to reset the > unit, or replace it, it would be cheaper to buy a MT solution. > > > > --- > Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer > Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services > Office: 314-735-0270 Website: http://www.linktechs.net > LIVE On-Line Mikrotik Training - Author of "Learn RouterOS" > > > > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of RickG > Sent: Sunday, August 08, 2010 12:34 AM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz PtP > > > > You might have something philosophical there Bob. Do we choose equipment that > is like us - lots of trouble and need plenty of attention? LOL! > > On Sun, Aug 8, 2010 at 1:30 AM, Robert West > wrote: > > But they are awesomely reliable and require no maintenance. Where is the > fun in all of that? > > I desire a product that demands constant attention. > > -Albert > > > > > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Dennis Burgess > Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2010 11:03 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz PtP > > Mikrotik :) > > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Mike Hammett > Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2010 9:09 AM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz PtP > > Does anyone have certified gear other than Motorola and Redline? > > -- > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz PtP
We have been trying to use UBNT Nanos for quite a while in trailer parks and other ¼ to ½ mile LoS links. The issues we are finding is that the dang things just stop. The first time we have to do a truck roll to reset the unit, or replace it, it would be cheaper to buy a MT solution. --- Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services Office: 314-735-0270 Website: http://www.linktechs.net <http://www.linktechs.net/> LIVE On-Line Mikrotik Training <http://www.onlinemikrotiktraining.com> - Author of "Learn RouterOS" <http://www.routerosbook.com/> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Sunday, August 08, 2010 12:34 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz PtP You might have something philosophical there Bob. Do we choose equipment that is like us - lots of trouble and need plenty of attention? LOL! On Sun, Aug 8, 2010 at 1:30 AM, Robert West wrote: But they are awesomely reliable and require no maintenance. Where is the fun in all of that? I desire a product that demands constant attention. -Albert -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Dennis Burgess Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2010 11:03 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz PtP Mikrotik :) -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2010 9:09 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz PtP Does anyone have certified gear other than Motorola and Redline? -- - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz PtP
That's me. Philosophical. Also very tired from yet another 36 hour day. Thank goodness for illegal drugs. Timothy O'Leary- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Sunday, August 08, 2010 1:34 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz PtP You might have something philosophical there Bob. Do we choose equipment that is like us - lots of trouble and need plenty of attention? LOL! On Sun, Aug 8, 2010 at 1:30 AM, Robert West wrote: But they are awesomely reliable and require no maintenance. Where is the fun in all of that? I desire a product that demands constant attention. -Albert -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Dennis Burgess Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2010 11:03 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz PtP Mikrotik :) -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2010 9:09 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz PtP Does anyone have certified gear other than Motorola and Redline? -- - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz PtP
Certifiable. I'm familiar with that. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2010 11:12 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz PtP Certified? Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Dennis Burgess Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2010 11:03 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz PtP Mikrotik :) -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2010 9:09 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz PtP Does anyone have certified gear other than Motorola and Redline? -- - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz PtP
You might have something philosophical there Bob. Do we choose equipment that is like us - lots of trouble and need plenty of attention? LOL! On Sun, Aug 8, 2010 at 1:30 AM, Robert West wrote: > But they are awesomely reliable and require no maintenance. Where is the > fun in all of that? > > I desire a product that demands constant attention. > > -Albert > > > > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Dennis Burgess > Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2010 11:03 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz PtP > > Mikrotik :) > > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Mike Hammett > Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2010 9:09 AM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz PtP > > Does anyone have certified gear other than Motorola and Redline? > > -- > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz PtP
But they are awesomely reliable and require no maintenance. Where is the fun in all of that? I desire a product that demands constant attention. -Albert -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Dennis Burgess Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2010 11:03 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz PtP Mikrotik :) -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2010 9:09 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz PtP Does anyone have certified gear other than Motorola and Redline? -- - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz PtP
Tranzeo is certified. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2010 11:12 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz PtP Certified? Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Dennis Burgess Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2010 11:03 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz PtP Mikrotik :) -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2010 9:09 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz PtP Does anyone have certified gear other than Motorola and Redline? -- - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz PtP
Certified? Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Dennis Burgess Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2010 11:03 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz PtP Mikrotik :) -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2010 9:09 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz PtP Does anyone have certified gear other than Motorola and Redline? -- - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz PtP
Mikrotik :) -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2010 9:09 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz PtP Does anyone have certified gear other than Motorola and Redline? -- - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz PtP
Exalt Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Mike Hammett Sender: wireless-boun...@wispa.org Date: Sat, 07 Aug 2010 09:08:54 To: WISPA General List Reply-To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz PtP Does anyone have certified gear other than Motorola and Redline? -- - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz PtP
Trango T45 too Sent from my Motorola Startac... On Aug 7, 2010, at 10:50 AM, "Gino Villarini" wrote: > Radwin 1000 and 2000 series > > And IIRC Proxim QB series > > Sent from my Motorola Startac... > > > On Aug 7, 2010, at 10:15 AM, "Mike Hammett" wrote: > >> Does anyone have certified gear other than Motorola and Redline? >> >> -- >> >> >> - >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions >> http://www.ics-il.com >> >> >> >> >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz PtP
Exalt too Sent from my Motorola Startac... On Aug 7, 2010, at 10:50 AM, "Gino Villarini" wrote: > Radwin 1000 and 2000 series > > And IIRC Proxim QB series > > Sent from my Motorola Startac... > > > On Aug 7, 2010, at 10:15 AM, "Mike Hammett" wrote: > >> Does anyone have certified gear other than Motorola and Redline? >> >> -- >> >> >> - >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions >> http://www.ics-il.com >> >> >> >> >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz PtP
Radwin 1000 and 2000 series And IIRC Proxim QB series Sent from my Motorola Startac... On Aug 7, 2010, at 10:15 AM, "Mike Hammett" wrote: > Does anyone have certified gear other than Motorola and Redline? > > -- > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz ?
Aww, now I don't feel so bad. Gino Villarini wrote: Judd Dare wow ... that's a old one ... I wonder ehats he's up to lately, He kicked me off his list about 2 years ago... -- George Rogato Welcome to WISPA www.wispa.org http://signup.wispa.org/ ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz ?
A quick email search comes up with dozens of emails with several subjects spread out over several months all relating to this link. How about your 5-17-06 email? How about Keith Edmonds (Alvarion Engineer) 5-26-06 email or should I say emails? Skip ahead through dozens of emails between Keith Edwards, Bob Neiman, you, Les Sparrey, me, Richard and then check the Alvarion support emails on 8-10-06. Yah, it certainly supports your assertion that I was trying to sabotage the link servicing MY client! It certainly looks like I was just letting the VL project die on the vine all the while expending considerable effort to salvage the client relationship. Geeshh...give me a break! Brad -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brad Belton Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 11:18 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz ? Absolute mistruths. Should I start posting emails between Alvarion engineers and me? I still have all the surveys...one after another and another Your "site visit" was to a meeting on the other side of town before the gear was even deployed! Lol! The client was my client not the third party! Why would I want to sabatoge my own client?!? Get a grip Patrick! Amazing. Brad While I respect his loyalty to his favorite brand, I tire of the disingenuous junk you put out there...followed by the goofy e-smiles you try to insert to say you are only kidding. Leave it to you to turn a thread about DFS2 kicking in being somehow indicative that our radios are failing. Brad, if I said the sky was blue, you'd say it was green just for the sake of argument. Congratulations on being the Judd Dare of 2006-2007. Patrick -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brad Belton Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 8:18 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz ? This doesn't come as a surprise. We deployed a couple VL units and they were all but shut down due to a less than ideal RF environment. Countless hours over days if not weeks with Alvarion's finest in an effort to remedy the situation were unsuccessful. Reflecting back on our particular scenario it was pretty interesting to see how poorly they handled peak business hours when interfering RF activity was high. The radios would then speed up as hostile RF became less active allowing more airtime for the VL to TX & RX. This was arguably one of the more miserable events of our company's entire existence. That said it is fair to say, if the RF is clean the VL radios will scream. Best, Brad Ps. I'll be bracing for Patrick's attempts to discredit me for opting out of Alvarion's $1000 class. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Zachery Wolfinger Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 7:58 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz ? Well, since you asked ;-) We tried to deploy an Alvarion 5.4GHz B100 link in Indianapolis. DFS2 kicked in big time. To the point that the radios shut down all frequencies and would not communicate with each other. Sitting in the lab they worked fine. It's possible that at least one side is hearing the radar from the Indy airport, but on all frequencies? We pulled the link down and put it back in the lab. Mike Cowan from Wireless Connections remoted in and check it out but didn't see any issues. We are getting ready to deploy these back out to the tower sites so he can see what they are doing in the field. Zak Wolfinger IT Director CyberLink International Phone: 888-293-3693 Ext. 4357 Fax: 888-293-3995 Patrick Leary wrote: > Hi folks, > > So how many of you using it have experienced the DFS2 kicking in? I am > curious because we are not getting many reports where radars are forcing > the radios to vacate and move to another channel. > > We are getting asked this a lot of late since we released our 5.4 PMP, > but so far we don't see the radars much. IF you have a story, please > indicate if you are rural, rural coastal, etc. > > Also how about 5.3 GHz. DFS2 is now mandatory there but I don't think we > have any case where those found a radar. > > Thanks, > > Patrick Leary > AVP, Market Development > Alvarion, Inc. > o: 650.314.2628 > c: 760.580.0080 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals & computer viruses(84). > > > > > > > > *
RE: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz ?
Still has his own list. Pretty sure Patrick is an active contributor over there Best, Brad -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 11:16 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz ? Judd Dare wow ... that's a old one ... I wonder ehats he's up to lately, He kicked me off his list about 2 years ago... Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Patrick Leary Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 12:11 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz ? What a load of garbage. Brad resisted our help at every turn. I was on some of the calls and I personally made a site visit. I even had some of our engineers calling me to ask for my help to get Brad to work with them because he would not call them back and/or refused suggestions or offers of help. Brad repeatedly turned down offers for our guys to come out. From day 1 Brad wanted his consulting customer to go the Trango route (Brad is one of their first customers from back in the Sunstream days) and he did everything in his power to sabotage the effort. We learned that soon enough to the point where I told our guys to stop making any effort; it did not matter what we could do to help, because it was going to be rail-roaded. Even the company he was consulting for recognized it. We eventually simply had to give up. While I respect his loyalty to his favorite brand, I tire of the disingenuous junk you put out there...followed by the goofy e-smiles you try to insert to say you are only kidding. Leave it to you to turn a thread about DFS2 kicking in being somehow indicative that our radios are failing. Brad, if I said the sky was blue, you'd say it was green just for the sake of argument. Congratulations on being the Judd Dare of 2006-2007. Patrick -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brad Belton Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 8:18 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz ? This doesn't come as a surprise. We deployed a couple VL units and they were all but shut down due to a less than ideal RF environment. Countless hours over days if not weeks with Alvarion's finest in an effort to remedy the situation were unsuccessful. Reflecting back on our particular scenario it was pretty interesting to see how poorly they handled peak business hours when interfering RF activity was high. The radios would then speed up as hostile RF became less active allowing more airtime for the VL to TX & RX. This was arguably one of the more miserable events of our company's entire existence. That said it is fair to say, if the RF is clean the VL radios will scream. Best, Brad Ps. I'll be bracing for Patrick's attempts to discredit me for opting out of Alvarion's $1000 class. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Zachery Wolfinger Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 7:58 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz ? Well, since you asked ;-) We tried to deploy an Alvarion 5.4GHz B100 link in Indianapolis. DFS2 kicked in big time. To the point that the radios shut down all frequencies and would not communicate with each other. Sitting in the lab they worked fine. It's possible that at least one side is hearing the radar from the Indy airport, but on all frequencies? We pulled the link down and put it back in the lab. Mike Cowan from Wireless Connections remoted in and check it out but didn't see any issues. We are getting ready to deploy these back out to the tower sites so he can see what they are doing in the field. Zak Wolfinger IT Director CyberLink International Phone: 888-293-3693 Ext. 4357 Fax: 888-293-3995 Patrick Leary wrote: > Hi folks, > > So how many of you using it have experienced the DFS2 kicking in? I am > curious because we are not getting many reports where radars are forcing > the radios to vacate and move to another channel. > > We are getting asked this a lot of late since we released our 5.4 PMP, > but so far we don't see the radars much. IF you have a story, please > indicate if you are rural, rural coastal, etc. > > Also how about 5.3 GHz. DFS2 is now mandatory there but I don't think we > have any case where those found a radar. > > Thanks, > > Patrick Leary > AVP, Market Development > Alvarion, Inc. > o: 650.314.2628 > c: 760.580.0080 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > >
RE: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz ?
Absolute mistruths. Should I start posting emails between Alvarion engineers and me? I still have all the surveys...one after another and another Your "site visit" was to a meeting on the other side of town before the gear was even deployed! Lol! The client was my client not the third party! Why would I want to sabatoge my own client?!? Get a grip Patrick! Amazing. Brad While I respect his loyalty to his favorite brand, I tire of the disingenuous junk you put out there...followed by the goofy e-smiles you try to insert to say you are only kidding. Leave it to you to turn a thread about DFS2 kicking in being somehow indicative that our radios are failing. Brad, if I said the sky was blue, you'd say it was green just for the sake of argument. Congratulations on being the Judd Dare of 2006-2007. Patrick -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brad Belton Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 8:18 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz ? This doesn't come as a surprise. We deployed a couple VL units and they were all but shut down due to a less than ideal RF environment. Countless hours over days if not weeks with Alvarion's finest in an effort to remedy the situation were unsuccessful. Reflecting back on our particular scenario it was pretty interesting to see how poorly they handled peak business hours when interfering RF activity was high. The radios would then speed up as hostile RF became less active allowing more airtime for the VL to TX & RX. This was arguably one of the more miserable events of our company's entire existence. That said it is fair to say, if the RF is clean the VL radios will scream. Best, Brad Ps. I'll be bracing for Patrick's attempts to discredit me for opting out of Alvarion's $1000 class. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Zachery Wolfinger Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 7:58 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz ? Well, since you asked ;-) We tried to deploy an Alvarion 5.4GHz B100 link in Indianapolis. DFS2 kicked in big time. To the point that the radios shut down all frequencies and would not communicate with each other. Sitting in the lab they worked fine. It's possible that at least one side is hearing the radar from the Indy airport, but on all frequencies? We pulled the link down and put it back in the lab. Mike Cowan from Wireless Connections remoted in and check it out but didn't see any issues. We are getting ready to deploy these back out to the tower sites so he can see what they are doing in the field. Zak Wolfinger IT Director CyberLink International Phone: 888-293-3693 Ext. 4357 Fax: 888-293-3995 Patrick Leary wrote: > Hi folks, > > So how many of you using it have experienced the DFS2 kicking in? I am > curious because we are not getting many reports where radars are forcing > the radios to vacate and move to another channel. > > We are getting asked this a lot of late since we released our 5.4 PMP, > but so far we don't see the radars much. IF you have a story, please > indicate if you are rural, rural coastal, etc. > > Also how about 5.3 GHz. DFS2 is now mandatory there but I don't think we > have any case where those found a radar. > > Thanks, > > Patrick Leary > AVP, Market Development > Alvarion, Inc. > o: 650.314.2628 > c: 760.580.0080 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals & computer viruses(84). > > > > > > > > > This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by > PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals & computer viruses. > > > > > > > ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** > ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** > ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** > ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** > ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ >
RE: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz ?
Judd Dare wow ... that's a old one ... I wonder ehats he's up to lately, He kicked me off his list about 2 years ago... Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Patrick Leary Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 12:11 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz ? What a load of garbage. Brad resisted our help at every turn. I was on some of the calls and I personally made a site visit. I even had some of our engineers calling me to ask for my help to get Brad to work with them because he would not call them back and/or refused suggestions or offers of help. Brad repeatedly turned down offers for our guys to come out. From day 1 Brad wanted his consulting customer to go the Trango route (Brad is one of their first customers from back in the Sunstream days) and he did everything in his power to sabotage the effort. We learned that soon enough to the point where I told our guys to stop making any effort; it did not matter what we could do to help, because it was going to be rail-roaded. Even the company he was consulting for recognized it. We eventually simply had to give up. While I respect his loyalty to his favorite brand, I tire of the disingenuous junk you put out there...followed by the goofy e-smiles you try to insert to say you are only kidding. Leave it to you to turn a thread about DFS2 kicking in being somehow indicative that our radios are failing. Brad, if I said the sky was blue, you'd say it was green just for the sake of argument. Congratulations on being the Judd Dare of 2006-2007. Patrick -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brad Belton Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 8:18 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz ? This doesn't come as a surprise. We deployed a couple VL units and they were all but shut down due to a less than ideal RF environment. Countless hours over days if not weeks with Alvarion's finest in an effort to remedy the situation were unsuccessful. Reflecting back on our particular scenario it was pretty interesting to see how poorly they handled peak business hours when interfering RF activity was high. The radios would then speed up as hostile RF became less active allowing more airtime for the VL to TX & RX. This was arguably one of the more miserable events of our company's entire existence. That said it is fair to say, if the RF is clean the VL radios will scream. Best, Brad Ps. I'll be bracing for Patrick's attempts to discredit me for opting out of Alvarion's $1000 class. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Zachery Wolfinger Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 7:58 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz ? Well, since you asked ;-) We tried to deploy an Alvarion 5.4GHz B100 link in Indianapolis. DFS2 kicked in big time. To the point that the radios shut down all frequencies and would not communicate with each other. Sitting in the lab they worked fine. It's possible that at least one side is hearing the radar from the Indy airport, but on all frequencies? We pulled the link down and put it back in the lab. Mike Cowan from Wireless Connections remoted in and check it out but didn't see any issues. We are getting ready to deploy these back out to the tower sites so he can see what they are doing in the field. Zak Wolfinger IT Director CyberLink International Phone: 888-293-3693 Ext. 4357 Fax: 888-293-3995 Patrick Leary wrote: > Hi folks, > > So how many of you using it have experienced the DFS2 kicking in? I am > curious because we are not getting many reports where radars are forcing > the radios to vacate and move to another channel. > > We are getting asked this a lot of late since we released our 5.4 PMP, > but so far we don't see the radars much. IF you have a story, please > indicate if you are rural, rural coastal, etc. > > Also how about 5.3 GHz. DFS2 is now mandatory there but I don't think we > have any case where those found a radar. > > Thanks, > > Patrick Leary > AVP, Market Development > Alvarion, Inc. > o: 650.314.2628 > c: 760.580.0080 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals & computer viruses(84). > > > > > > > > ***
RE: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz ?
What a load of garbage. Brad resisted our help at every turn. I was on some of the calls and I personally made a site visit. I even had some of our engineers calling me to ask for my help to get Brad to work with them because he would not call them back and/or refused suggestions or offers of help. Brad repeatedly turned down offers for our guys to come out. From day 1 Brad wanted his consulting customer to go the Trango route (Brad is one of their first customers from back in the Sunstream days) and he did everything in his power to sabotage the effort. We learned that soon enough to the point where I told our guys to stop making any effort; it did not matter what we could do to help, because it was going to be rail-roaded. Even the company he was consulting for recognized it. We eventually simply had to give up. While I respect his loyalty to his favorite brand, I tire of the disingenuous junk you put out there...followed by the goofy e-smiles you try to insert to say you are only kidding. Leave it to you to turn a thread about DFS2 kicking in being somehow indicative that our radios are failing. Brad, if I said the sky was blue, you'd say it was green just for the sake of argument. Congratulations on being the Judd Dare of 2006-2007. Patrick -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brad Belton Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 8:18 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz ? This doesn't come as a surprise. We deployed a couple VL units and they were all but shut down due to a less than ideal RF environment. Countless hours over days if not weeks with Alvarion's finest in an effort to remedy the situation were unsuccessful. Reflecting back on our particular scenario it was pretty interesting to see how poorly they handled peak business hours when interfering RF activity was high. The radios would then speed up as hostile RF became less active allowing more airtime for the VL to TX & RX. This was arguably one of the more miserable events of our company's entire existence. That said it is fair to say, if the RF is clean the VL radios will scream. Best, Brad Ps. I'll be bracing for Patrick's attempts to discredit me for opting out of Alvarion's $1000 class. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Zachery Wolfinger Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 7:58 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz ? Well, since you asked ;-) We tried to deploy an Alvarion 5.4GHz B100 link in Indianapolis. DFS2 kicked in big time. To the point that the radios shut down all frequencies and would not communicate with each other. Sitting in the lab they worked fine. It's possible that at least one side is hearing the radar from the Indy airport, but on all frequencies? We pulled the link down and put it back in the lab. Mike Cowan from Wireless Connections remoted in and check it out but didn't see any issues. We are getting ready to deploy these back out to the tower sites so he can see what they are doing in the field. Zak Wolfinger IT Director CyberLink International Phone: 888-293-3693 Ext. 4357 Fax: 888-293-3995 Patrick Leary wrote: > Hi folks, > > So how many of you using it have experienced the DFS2 kicking in? I am > curious because we are not getting many reports where radars are forcing > the radios to vacate and move to another channel. > > We are getting asked this a lot of late since we released our 5.4 PMP, > but so far we don't see the radars much. IF you have a story, please > indicate if you are rural, rural coastal, etc. > > Also how about 5.3 GHz. DFS2 is now mandatory there but I don't think we > have any case where those found a radar. > > Thanks, > > Patrick Leary > AVP, Market Development > Alvarion, Inc. > o: 650.314.2628 > c: 760.580.0080 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals & computer viruses(84). > > > > > > > > > This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by > PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals & computer viruses. > > > > > > > ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** > ** ISPCON Fall 2
RE: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz ?
Hello Gino, Well, I don't want to be accused of hijacking a thread and morphing it into an advertisement for another brand, but IMO a radio without a CSMA mechanism, with software controlled dual polarity and with a RX threshold would most likely perform better in a hostile RF environment. At least that's been our experience... Going forward we are favoring licensed PtP links over UL for high value clients. For example we are deploying the first of hopefully several 80GHz 1.25Gbps links for a client in the next week or two. Should be fun to align with 2' antennas! Best, Brad -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 10:22 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz ? So Brad, what did you use? Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brad Belton Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 11:18 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz ? This doesn't come as a surprise. We deployed a couple VL units and they were all but shut down due to a less than ideal RF environment. Countless hours over days if not weeks with Alvarion's finest in an effort to remedy the situation were unsuccessful. Reflecting back on our particular scenario it was pretty interesting to see how poorly they handled peak business hours when interfering RF activity was high. The radios would then speed up as hostile RF became less active allowing more airtime for the VL to TX & RX. This was arguably one of the more miserable events of our company's entire existence. That said it is fair to say, if the RF is clean the VL radios will scream. Best, Brad Ps. I'll be bracing for Patrick's attempts to discredit me for opting out of Alvarion's $1000 class. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Zachery Wolfinger Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 7:58 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz ? Well, since you asked ;-) We tried to deploy an Alvarion 5.4GHz B100 link in Indianapolis. DFS2 kicked in big time. To the point that the radios shut down all frequencies and would not communicate with each other. Sitting in the lab they worked fine. It's possible that at least one side is hearing the radar from the Indy airport, but on all frequencies? We pulled the link down and put it back in the lab. Mike Cowan from Wireless Connections remoted in and check it out but didn't see any issues. We are getting ready to deploy these back out to the tower sites so he can see what they are doing in the field. Zak Wolfinger IT Director CyberLink International Phone: 888-293-3693 Ext. 4357 Fax: 888-293-3995 Patrick Leary wrote: > Hi folks, > > So how many of you using it have experienced the DFS2 kicking in? I am > curious because we are not getting many reports where radars are forcing > the radios to vacate and move to another channel. > > We are getting asked this a lot of late since we released our 5.4 PMP, > but so far we don't see the radars much. IF you have a story, please > indicate if you are rural, rural coastal, etc. > > Also how about 5.3 GHz. DFS2 is now mandatory there but I don't think we > have any case where those found a radar. > > Thanks, > > Patrick Leary > AVP, Market Development > Alvarion, Inc. > o: 650.314.2628 > c: 760.580.0080 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals & computer viruses(84). > > > > > > > > > This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by > PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals & computer viruses. > > > > > > > ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** > ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** > ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** > ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** > ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** > > ---
RE: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz ?
So Brad, what did you use? Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brad Belton Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 11:18 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz ? This doesn't come as a surprise. We deployed a couple VL units and they were all but shut down due to a less than ideal RF environment. Countless hours over days if not weeks with Alvarion's finest in an effort to remedy the situation were unsuccessful. Reflecting back on our particular scenario it was pretty interesting to see how poorly they handled peak business hours when interfering RF activity was high. The radios would then speed up as hostile RF became less active allowing more airtime for the VL to TX & RX. This was arguably one of the more miserable events of our company's entire existence. That said it is fair to say, if the RF is clean the VL radios will scream. Best, Brad Ps. I'll be bracing for Patrick's attempts to discredit me for opting out of Alvarion's $1000 class. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Zachery Wolfinger Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 7:58 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz ? Well, since you asked ;-) We tried to deploy an Alvarion 5.4GHz B100 link in Indianapolis. DFS2 kicked in big time. To the point that the radios shut down all frequencies and would not communicate with each other. Sitting in the lab they worked fine. It's possible that at least one side is hearing the radar from the Indy airport, but on all frequencies? We pulled the link down and put it back in the lab. Mike Cowan from Wireless Connections remoted in and check it out but didn't see any issues. We are getting ready to deploy these back out to the tower sites so he can see what they are doing in the field. Zak Wolfinger IT Director CyberLink International Phone: 888-293-3693 Ext. 4357 Fax: 888-293-3995 Patrick Leary wrote: > Hi folks, > > So how many of you using it have experienced the DFS2 kicking in? I am > curious because we are not getting many reports where radars are forcing > the radios to vacate and move to another channel. > > We are getting asked this a lot of late since we released our 5.4 PMP, > but so far we don't see the radars much. IF you have a story, please > indicate if you are rural, rural coastal, etc. > > Also how about 5.3 GHz. DFS2 is now mandatory there but I don't think we > have any case where those found a radar. > > Thanks, > > Patrick Leary > AVP, Market Development > Alvarion, Inc. > o: 650.314.2628 > c: 760.580.0080 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals & computer viruses(84). > > > > > > > > > This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by > PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals & computer viruses. > > > > > > > ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** > ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** > ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** > ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** > ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/regist
RE: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz ?
This doesn't come as a surprise. We deployed a couple VL units and they were all but shut down due to a less than ideal RF environment. Countless hours over days if not weeks with Alvarion's finest in an effort to remedy the situation were unsuccessful. Reflecting back on our particular scenario it was pretty interesting to see how poorly they handled peak business hours when interfering RF activity was high. The radios would then speed up as hostile RF became less active allowing more airtime for the VL to TX & RX. This was arguably one of the more miserable events of our company's entire existence. That said it is fair to say, if the RF is clean the VL radios will scream. Best, Brad Ps. I'll be bracing for Patrick's attempts to discredit me for opting out of Alvarion's $1000 class. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Zachery Wolfinger Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 7:58 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz ? Well, since you asked ;-) We tried to deploy an Alvarion 5.4GHz B100 link in Indianapolis. DFS2 kicked in big time. To the point that the radios shut down all frequencies and would not communicate with each other. Sitting in the lab they worked fine. It's possible that at least one side is hearing the radar from the Indy airport, but on all frequencies? We pulled the link down and put it back in the lab. Mike Cowan from Wireless Connections remoted in and check it out but didn't see any issues. We are getting ready to deploy these back out to the tower sites so he can see what they are doing in the field. Zak Wolfinger IT Director CyberLink International Phone: 888-293-3693 Ext. 4357 Fax: 888-293-3995 Patrick Leary wrote: > Hi folks, > > So how many of you using it have experienced the DFS2 kicking in? I am > curious because we are not getting many reports where radars are forcing > the radios to vacate and move to another channel. > > We are getting asked this a lot of late since we released our 5.4 PMP, > but so far we don't see the radars much. IF you have a story, please > indicate if you are rural, rural coastal, etc. > > Also how about 5.3 GHz. DFS2 is now mandatory there but I don't think we > have any case where those found a radar. > > Thanks, > > Patrick Leary > AVP, Market Development > Alvarion, Inc. > o: 650.314.2628 > c: 760.580.0080 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals & computer viruses(84). > > > > > > > > > This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by > PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals & computer viruses. > > > > > > > ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** > ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** > ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** > ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** > ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: htt
RE: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz ?
Nope, before everything out there was 2.4, There is one link to the east that could have been affected by radar from the airport. Ryan - Original Message Follows - From: "Mike Bushard, Jr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'WISPA General List'" Subject: RE: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz ? Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 20:38:37 -0500 > Ryan, > > Is that the same Link Jim had problems with every once in > while after dark? We figured they must have been testing > the new top secret aircraft.. > > Mike Bushard, Jr > Wisper Wireless Solutions, LLC > 320-256-WISP (9477) > 320-256-9478 Fax > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ryan > Langseth Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 7:09 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz ? > > We have a tranzeo PTP link directly south of an Air Force > base (the link runs east-west), the East endpoint is > right south of the base, less than 3 miles. We put it > in the 5.8 range because it dropped once. Here is the > DFS info we have: > > ChannelRADAR EventsTime Since Last Event > Current Status 1241> 30 days > Available > 1161> 30 days > Available > 120167.20 days > Available > > Another device on that tower, facing east, shows no DFS > events. > > ryan > > On Oct 2, 2007, at 7:01 PM, Tom DeReggi wrote: > > > No but I'll tell you that the wireline providers are > > using the DFS2 issue as a major negative against us. > > I'm getting asked about it, alot from prospects. > > It would be nice to learn very few are effected by it, > > for building possitive public perception. > > > > Tom DeReggi > > RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc > > IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband > > > > > > - Original Message - From: "Patrick Leary" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "WISPA General List" > > Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 7:26 PM > > Subject: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz ? > > > > > > Hi folks, > > > > So how many of you using it have experienced the DFS2 > > kicking in? I am curious because we are not getting many > > reports where radars are forcing > > the radios to vacate and move to another channel. > > > > We are getting asked this a lot of late since we > > released our 5.4 PMP, but so far we don't see the radars > > much. IF you have a story, please indicate if you are > rural, rural coastal, etc. > > > Also how about 5.3 GHz. DFS2 is now mandatory there but > > I don't think we > > have any case where those found a radar. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Patrick Leary > > AVP, Market Development > > Alvarion, Inc. > > o: 650.314.2628 > > c: 760.580.0080 > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > ** > > ** This footnote confirms that > > this email message has been scanned by PineApp > > Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, > > vandals & computer viruses(84). > ** > > ** > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ** > > ** > > This footnote confirms that this email message has been > > scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of > > malicious code, vandals & computer viruses. > > > ** > > ** > > > > > > > > > -- > > -- > > > > ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October > > the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** > > ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA > > www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** > > ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August > > 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register > > online at http:// www.ispcon.com/register.php ** > > > > > -- > > -- > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > -- > > -- > > > >
RE: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz ?
Yup, and the channels listed there are not in the 5.4 range. But part of the frequency it does support has a DFS requirement (from my understanding), just relaying some info. - Original Message Follows - From: "Gino Villarini" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Subject: RE: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz ? Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 21:25:30 -0400 > A Fcc certification search gives no results for Tranzeo in > 5.4 > > Gino A. Villarini > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. > tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ryan > Langseth Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 8:09 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz ? > > We have a tranzeo PTP link directly south of an Air Force > base (the link runs east-west), the East endpoint is > right south of the base, less than 3 miles. We put it > in the 5.8 range because it dropped once. Here is the > DFS info we have: > > ChannelRADAR EventsTime Since Last Event > Current Status 1241> 30 days > Available > 1161> 30 days > Available > 120167.20 days > Available > > Another device on that tower, facing east, shows no DFS > events. > > ryan > > On Oct 2, 2007, at 7:01 PM, Tom DeReggi wrote: > > > No but I'll tell you that the wireline providers are > > using the DFS2 issue as a major negative against us. > > I'm getting asked about it, alot from prospects. > > It would be nice to learn very few are effected by it, > > for building possitive public perception. > > > > Tom DeReggi > > RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc > > IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband > > > > > > - Original Message - From: "Patrick Leary" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "WISPA General List" > > Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 7:26 PM > > Subject: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz ? > > > > > > Hi folks, > > > > So how many of you using it have experienced the DFS2 > > kicking in? I am curious because we are not getting many > > reports where radars are forcing > > the radios to vacate and move to another channel. > > > > We are getting asked this a lot of late since we > > released our 5.4 PMP, but so far we don't see the radars > > much. IF you have a story, please indicate if you are > rural, rural coastal, etc. > > > Also how about 5.3 GHz. DFS2 is now mandatory there but > > I don't think we > > have any case where those found a radar. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Patrick Leary > > AVP, Market Development > > Alvarion, Inc. > > o: 650.314.2628 > > c: 760.580.0080 > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > ** > > > > ** This footnote confirms that this email > > message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for > > the presence of malicious code, vandals & computer > > viruses(84). > ** > > > > ** > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ** > > > > ** > > This footnote confirms that this email message has been > > scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of > > malicious code, vandals & computer viruses. > > > ** > > > > ** > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > -- > > > > ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October > > the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** > > ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA > > www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** > > ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August > > 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register > > online at http:// www.ispcon.com/register.php ** > > > > > -- > > > > -- > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > -- > > > > -- > > &
RE: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz ?
I think he was talking 5.3 Mike Bushard, Jr Wisper Wireless Solutions, LLC 320-256-WISP (9477) 320-256-9478 Fax -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 8:26 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz ? A Fcc certification search gives no results for Tranzeo in 5.4 Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ryan Langseth Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 8:09 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz ? We have a tranzeo PTP link directly south of an Air Force base (the link runs east-west), the East endpoint is right south of the base, less than 3 miles. We put it in the 5.8 range because it dropped once. Here is the DFS info we have: Channel RADAR EventsTime Since Last Event Current Status 124 1 > 30 days Available 116 1 > 30 days Available 120 16 7.20 days Available Another device on that tower, facing east, shows no DFS events. ryan On Oct 2, 2007, at 7:01 PM, Tom DeReggi wrote: > No but I'll tell you that the wireline providers are using the DFS2 > issue as a major negative against us. I'm getting asked about it, > alot from prospects. > It would be nice to learn very few are effected by it, for building > possitive public perception. > > Tom DeReggi > RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc > IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband > > > - Original Message - From: "Patrick Leary" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "WISPA General List" > Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 7:26 PM > Subject: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz ? > > > Hi folks, > > So how many of you using it have experienced the DFS2 kicking in? I am > curious because we are not getting many reports where radars are > forcing > the radios to vacate and move to another channel. > > We are getting asked this a lot of late since we released our 5.4 PMP, > but so far we don't see the radars much. IF you have a story, please > indicate if you are rural, rural coastal, etc. > > Also how about 5.3 GHz. DFS2 is now mandatory there but I don't > think we > have any case where those found a radar. > > Thanks, > > Patrick Leary > AVP, Market Development > Alvarion, Inc. > o: 650.314.2628 > c: 760.580.0080 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > ** > ** This footnote confirms that this email message has > been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious > code, vandals & computer viruses(84). > ** > ** > > > > > > > > ** > ** > This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by > PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals & > computer viruses. > ** > ** > > > > -- > -- > > ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th > 2007 at ISPCON ** > ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** > ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** > ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** > ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http:// > www.ispcon.com/register.php ** > > -- > -- > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > -- > -- > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > -- > Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.487 / Virus Database: 269.13.27/1020 - Release Date: > 9/20/2007 12:07 PM > > > -- > -- > > ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th > 2007 at ISPCON ** > ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 1
RE: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz ?
Ryan, Is that the same Link Jim had problems with every once in while after dark? We figured they must have been testing the new top secret aircraft.. Mike Bushard, Jr Wisper Wireless Solutions, LLC 320-256-WISP (9477) 320-256-9478 Fax -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ryan Langseth Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 7:09 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz ? We have a tranzeo PTP link directly south of an Air Force base (the link runs east-west), the East endpoint is right south of the base, less than 3 miles. We put it in the 5.8 range because it dropped once. Here is the DFS info we have: Channel RADAR EventsTime Since Last Event Current Status 124 1 > 30 days Available 116 1 > 30 days Available 120 16 7.20 days Available Another device on that tower, facing east, shows no DFS events. ryan On Oct 2, 2007, at 7:01 PM, Tom DeReggi wrote: > No but I'll tell you that the wireline providers are using the DFS2 > issue as a major negative against us. I'm getting asked about it, > alot from prospects. > It would be nice to learn very few are effected by it, for building > possitive public perception. > > Tom DeReggi > RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc > IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband > > > - Original Message - From: "Patrick Leary" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "WISPA General List" > Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 7:26 PM > Subject: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz ? > > > Hi folks, > > So how many of you using it have experienced the DFS2 kicking in? I am > curious because we are not getting many reports where radars are > forcing > the radios to vacate and move to another channel. > > We are getting asked this a lot of late since we released our 5.4 PMP, > but so far we don't see the radars much. IF you have a story, please > indicate if you are rural, rural coastal, etc. > > Also how about 5.3 GHz. DFS2 is now mandatory there but I don't > think we > have any case where those found a radar. > > Thanks, > > Patrick Leary > AVP, Market Development > Alvarion, Inc. > o: 650.314.2628 > c: 760.580.0080 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > ** > ** This footnote confirms that this email message has > been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious > code, vandals & computer viruses(84). > ** > ** > > > > > > > > ** > ** > This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by > PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals & > computer viruses. > ** > ** > > > > -- > -- > > ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th > 2007 at ISPCON ** > ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** > ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** > ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** > ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http:// > www.ispcon.com/register.php ** > > -- > -- > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > -- > -- > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > -- > Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.487 / Virus Database: 269.13.27/1020 - Release Date: > 9/20/2007 12:07 PM > > > -- > -- > > ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th > 2007 at ISPCON ** > ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** > ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** > ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** > ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http:// > www.ispcon.com/register.php ** > > --
RE: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz ?
A Fcc certification search gives no results for Tranzeo in 5.4 Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ryan Langseth Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 8:09 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz ? We have a tranzeo PTP link directly south of an Air Force base (the link runs east-west), the East endpoint is right south of the base, less than 3 miles. We put it in the 5.8 range because it dropped once. Here is the DFS info we have: Channel RADAR EventsTime Since Last Event Current Status 124 1 > 30 days Available 116 1 > 30 days Available 120 16 7.20 days Available Another device on that tower, facing east, shows no DFS events. ryan On Oct 2, 2007, at 7:01 PM, Tom DeReggi wrote: > No but I'll tell you that the wireline providers are using the DFS2 > issue as a major negative against us. I'm getting asked about it, > alot from prospects. > It would be nice to learn very few are effected by it, for building > possitive public perception. > > Tom DeReggi > RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc > IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband > > > - Original Message - From: "Patrick Leary" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "WISPA General List" > Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 7:26 PM > Subject: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz ? > > > Hi folks, > > So how many of you using it have experienced the DFS2 kicking in? I am > curious because we are not getting many reports where radars are > forcing > the radios to vacate and move to another channel. > > We are getting asked this a lot of late since we released our 5.4 PMP, > but so far we don't see the radars much. IF you have a story, please > indicate if you are rural, rural coastal, etc. > > Also how about 5.3 GHz. DFS2 is now mandatory there but I don't > think we > have any case where those found a radar. > > Thanks, > > Patrick Leary > AVP, Market Development > Alvarion, Inc. > o: 650.314.2628 > c: 760.580.0080 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > ** > ** This footnote confirms that this email message has > been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious > code, vandals & computer viruses(84). > ** > ** > > > > > > > > ** > ** > This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by > PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals & > computer viruses. > ** > ** > > > > -- > -- > > ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th > 2007 at ISPCON ** > ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** > ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** > ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** > ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http:// > www.ispcon.com/register.php ** > > -- > -- > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > -- > -- > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > -- > Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.487 / Virus Database: 269.13.27/1020 - Release Date: > 9/20/2007 12:07 PM > > > -- > -- > > ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th > 2007 at ISPCON ** > ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** > ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** > ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** > ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http:// > www.ispcon.com/register.php ** > > -- > -- > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://s
RE: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz ?
We have a couple deployed less then 4 miles from Dulles Airport...one AU has los to the airport..while we see noise on a few of the 5.4 channels we have not seen any radar at allMarty -Original Message- From: "Zachery Wolfinger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: 10/2/07 8:57 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz ? Well, since you asked ;-) We tried to deploy an Alvarion 5.4GHz B100 link in Indianapolis. DFS2 kicked in big time. To the point that the radios shut down all frequencies and would not communicate with each other. Sitting in the lab they worked fine. It's possible that at least one side is hearing the radar from the Indy airport, but on all frequencies? We pulled the link down and put it back in the lab. Mike Cowan from Wireless Connections remoted in and check it out but didn't see any issues. We are getting ready to deploy these back out to the tower sites so he can see what they are doing in the field. Zak Wolfinger IT Director CyberLink International Phone: 888-293-3693 Ext. 4357 Fax: 888-293-3995 Patrick Leary wrote: > Hi folks, > > So how many of you using it have experienced the DFS2 kicking in? I am > curious because we are not getting many reports where radars are forcing ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz ?
Well, I guess the DFS2 mechanism works! And the radios could not find an open (non radar) frequency? Patrick Leary AVP, Market Development Alvarion, Inc. o: 650.314.2628 c: 760.580.0080 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Zachery Wolfinger Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 5:58 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz ? Well, since you asked ;-) We tried to deploy an Alvarion 5.4GHz B100 link in Indianapolis. DFS2 kicked in big time. To the point that the radios shut down all frequencies and would not communicate with each other. Sitting in the lab they worked fine. It's possible that at least one side is hearing the radar from the Indy airport, but on all frequencies? We pulled the link down and put it back in the lab. Mike Cowan from Wireless Connections remoted in and check it out but didn't see any issues. We are getting ready to deploy these back out to the tower sites so he can see what they are doing in the field. Zak Wolfinger IT Director CyberLink International Phone: 888-293-3693 Ext. 4357 Fax: 888-293-3995 Patrick Leary wrote: > Hi folks, > > So how many of you using it have experienced the DFS2 kicking in? I am > curious because we are not getting many reports where radars are forcing > the radios to vacate and move to another channel. > > We are getting asked this a lot of late since we released our 5.4 PMP, > but so far we don't see the radars much. IF you have a story, please > indicate if you are rural, rural coastal, etc. > > Also how about 5.3 GHz. DFS2 is now mandatory there but I don't think we > have any case where those found a radar. > > Thanks, > > Patrick Leary > AVP, Market Development > Alvarion, Inc. > o: 650.314.2628 > c: 760.580.0080 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals & computer viruses(84). > > > > > > > > > This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by > PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals & computer viruses. > > > > > > > ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** > ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** > ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** > ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** > ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals & computer viruses(190). This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals & computer viruses(42). ***
Re: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz ?
Well, since you asked ;-) We tried to deploy an Alvarion 5.4GHz B100 link in Indianapolis. DFS2 kicked in big time. To the point that the radios shut down all frequencies and would not communicate with each other. Sitting in the lab they worked fine. It's possible that at least one side is hearing the radar from the Indy airport, but on all frequencies? We pulled the link down and put it back in the lab. Mike Cowan from Wireless Connections remoted in and check it out but didn't see any issues. We are getting ready to deploy these back out to the tower sites so he can see what they are doing in the field. Zak Wolfinger IT Director CyberLink International Phone: 888-293-3693 Ext. 4357 Fax: 888-293-3995 Patrick Leary wrote: Hi folks, So how many of you using it have experienced the DFS2 kicking in? I am curious because we are not getting many reports where radars are forcing the radios to vacate and move to another channel. We are getting asked this a lot of late since we released our 5.4 PMP, but so far we don't see the radars much. IF you have a story, please indicate if you are rural, rural coastal, etc. Also how about 5.3 GHz. DFS2 is now mandatory there but I don't think we have any case where those found a radar. Thanks, Patrick Leary AVP, Market Development Alvarion, Inc. o: 650.314.2628 c: 760.580.0080 [EMAIL PROTECTED] This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals & computer viruses(84). This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals & computer viruses. ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz ?
We have a tranzeo PTP link directly south of an Air Force base (the link runs east-west), the East endpoint is right south of the base, less than 3 miles. We put it in the 5.8 range because it dropped once. Here is the DFS info we have: Channel RADAR EventsTime Since Last Event Current Status 124 1 > 30 days Available 116 1 > 30 days Available 120 16 7.20 days Available Another device on that tower, facing east, shows no DFS events. ryan On Oct 2, 2007, at 7:01 PM, Tom DeReggi wrote: No but I'll tell you that the wireline providers are using the DFS2 issue as a major negative against us. I'm getting asked about it, alot from prospects. It would be nice to learn very few are effected by it, for building possitive public perception. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: "Patrick Leary" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 7:26 PM Subject: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz ? Hi folks, So how many of you using it have experienced the DFS2 kicking in? I am curious because we are not getting many reports where radars are forcing the radios to vacate and move to another channel. We are getting asked this a lot of late since we released our 5.4 PMP, but so far we don't see the radars much. IF you have a story, please indicate if you are rural, rural coastal, etc. Also how about 5.3 GHz. DFS2 is now mandatory there but I don't think we have any case where those found a radar. Thanks, Patrick Leary AVP, Market Development Alvarion, Inc. o: 650.314.2628 c: 760.580.0080 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** ** This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals & computer viruses(84). ** ** ** ** This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals & computer viruses. ** ** -- -- ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http:// www.ispcon.com/register.php ** -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.487 / Virus Database: 269.13.27/1020 - Release Date: 9/20/2007 12:07 PM -- -- ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http:// www.ispcon.com/register.php ** -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --
Re: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz ?
No but I'll tell you that the wireline providers are using the DFS2 issue as a major negative against us. I'm getting asked about it, alot from prospects. It would be nice to learn very few are effected by it, for building possitive public perception. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: "Patrick Leary" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 7:26 PM Subject: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz ? Hi folks, So how many of you using it have experienced the DFS2 kicking in? I am curious because we are not getting many reports where radars are forcing the radios to vacate and move to another channel. We are getting asked this a lot of late since we released our 5.4 PMP, but so far we don't see the radars much. IF you have a story, please indicate if you are rural, rural coastal, etc. Also how about 5.3 GHz. DFS2 is now mandatory there but I don't think we have any case where those found a radar. Thanks, Patrick Leary AVP, Market Development Alvarion, Inc. o: 650.314.2628 c: 760.580.0080 [EMAIL PROTECTED] This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals & computer viruses(84). This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals & computer viruses. ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.487 / Virus Database: 269.13.27/1020 - Release Date: 9/20/2007 12:07 PM ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 5.4 Ghz
I couldn't find specific information on certification, but I found this http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895,1862691,00.asp John Gino Villarini wrote: I saw some FCC certs for Cisco gear in 5.4 ghz, but I bet theyre for indoor use. Outdoor ptmp cert gear has yet to be seen Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Thomas Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2007 12:49 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.4 Ghz Cisco AP1242's have been doing this for at least 6 months. John Mike Hammett wrote: Redline has a certified product released. Orthogon is about to have theirs out. Anyone else? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 5.4 Ghz
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/ps6521/products_data_sheet0900aecd8031c844.html Americas (FCC) . 2.412 to 2.462 GHz; 11 channels . 5.15 to 5.35, 5.725 to 5.825 GHz; 12 channels - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: "John Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 11:48 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.4 Ghz Cisco AP1242's have been doing this for at least 6 months. John Mike Hammett wrote: Redline has a certified product released. Orthogon is about to have theirs out. Anyone else? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] 5.4 Ghz
I saw some FCC certs for Cisco gear in 5.4 ghz, but I bet theyre for indoor use. Outdoor ptmp cert gear has yet to be seen Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Thomas Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2007 12:49 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.4 Ghz Cisco AP1242's have been doing this for at least 6 months. John Mike Hammett wrote: > Redline has a certified product released. Orthogon is about to have theirs out. Anyone else? > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 5.4 Ghz
I don't think the final 5.4 GHz test procedures were available 6 months ago. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: "John Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 11:48 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.4 Ghz Cisco AP1242's have been doing this for at least 6 months. John Mike Hammett wrote: Redline has a certified product released. Orthogon is about to have theirs out. Anyone else? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 5.4 Ghz
Cisco AP1242's have been doing this for at least 6 months. John Mike Hammett wrote: Redline has a certified product released. Orthogon is about to have theirs out. Anyone else? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 5.4 Ghz
I agree with Matt though I am becoming more biased towards Exalt. I have 6 Orthogon Spectra links in place for about a year now. I have had one radio failure that was promptly replaced when it was Orthogon not Motorola. I have also had 5 (yes FIVE) power supply failures during that time. Three were replaced quickly when it was Orthogon. My last 2 replacements from Motorola took 9 days and had to be shipped from the UK. Not really happy with that. Fortunately we had several spares from the Orthogon days. I have 2 sites that are Exalt intense. One site has 4 links and the other has 7. On the site with four links we have three on one channel and one on another. Unfortunately we had an azimuth issue that prevented us from using just one. On the second site we have all 7 links all on the same channel. Now THAT's spectral efficiency. Right Marlon??? :-P Gotta luv that! All of our links are outdoor ruggedized units. We have NO indoor only units. We are not using T1's. We have had NO failures to date. We have GPS sync at all locations. We did have a mounting bracket that was missing hardware which was promptly replaced. Otherwise the stuff rocks. It will also be great once the asymetrical bandwidth option is available in the next few weeks. We have not tried any NLOS links with Exalt. Bob Matt Liotta wrote: I wouldn't really compare Orthogon to Exalt as I believe they serve different market niches. We use both for very different purposes. Orthogon primarily for NLOS. We use Exalt for high throughput 5Ghz links. We used to use Orthogon for the same thing, but Exalt's sync capability allows for better spectrum usage, which is more important to us. -Matt Mike Hammett wrote: It seems that Orthogon is about the same price, about the same channel size, and more bandwidth. I see a TDM optimization in the Orthogon settings, though I dunno if they actually offer any TDM interfaces. I also see a latency optimization setting, though my link is about 8 ms. Not sure how that relates to others. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- Bob Moldashel Lakeland Communications, Inc. Broadband Deployment Group 1350 Lincoln Avenue Holbrook, New York 11741 USA 800-479-9195 Toll Free US & Canada 631-585-5558 Fax 516-551-1131 Cell -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] 5.4 Ghz
Orthogon is coming out with sync this summer, also the ability to change the channel size too ... nice Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Liotta Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 7:22 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.4 Ghz I wouldn't really compare Orthogon to Exalt as I believe they serve different market niches. We use both for very different purposes. Orthogon primarily for NLOS. We use Exalt for high throughput 5Ghz links. We used to use Orthogon for the same thing, but Exalt's sync capability allows for better spectrum usage, which is more important to us. -Matt Mike Hammett wrote: > It seems that Orthogon is about the same price, about the same channel > size, and more bandwidth. > > I see a TDM optimization in the Orthogon settings, though I dunno if > they actually offer any TDM interfaces. > > I also see a latency optimization setting, though my link is about 8 > ms. Not sure how that relates to others. > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > > - Original Message - From: "Mike Brownson" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "WISPA General List" > Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 12:25 PM > Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.4 Ghz > > >> They tend to sell for comparable dollars to the Orthogon products. >> MSRP is $12K - $16K depending on version. They also include at least >> 4 T1s without tapping into the ethernet bandwidth. Seems each >> product has it's sweet spot. Orthogon is great for dificult paths. >> Exalt is great for low latency and T1s. Also with adjustable >> bandwidth it can fit in between inteference, so may be good for >> crowded areas. And now for the commercial, Electro-Comm is a master >> distributor for Exalt. >> Mike B >> >> George Rogato wrote: >> >>> How much? >>> >>> >>> Dylan Oliver wrote: >>> >>>> Brett Bonomo and Greg VanDell of Exalt provided amazing pre-sales >>>> support >>>> when I inquired about their 4.9 GHz gear for an RFP a few weeks >>>> ago. Exalt >>>> takes the cake in 4.9 GHz because of high guaranteed throughput (up >>>> to 55 >>>> Mbps goodput with 20 MHz channel) and sync, which would allow many >>>> more than >>>> two links to be deployed from a central location. They can also do >>>> sub-millisecond latency (or up to 5 ms for maximum throughput) and >>>> have >>>> adjustable channel sizes - down to 5 MHz, I believe, with 1 MHz >>>> spacing - to >>>> help one fit into cluttered spectrum. All of these things apply to the >>>> 5.xtri-band product, except that it can do 13 Mbps (in 8 MHz) to 216 >>>> Mbps (in >>>> 64 MHz). The integrated tri-band radio/antenna looks like the most >>>> flexible >>>> option out there right now for shorter links where any of the three >>>> bands >>>> would work. >>>> >>>> On 5/7/07, Mike Hammett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> http://www.exaltcom.com/ >>>> >> >> -- >> Mike Brownson >> Electro-comm Distributing >> 5015 Paris St >> Denver, CO 80239 >> www.electro-comm.com >> (303) 371-8182 x112, (800) 525-0173 >> >> Your 24x7 support staff is at www.ShopECBIZ.com >> We're your complete back-haul solutions source >> ---licensed, unlicensed, 1Mb to 1.25Gb--- >> In stock, from Tranzeo 900MHz PtMP >> >> >> -- >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> > -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 5.4 Ghz
I wouldn't really compare Orthogon to Exalt as I believe they serve different market niches. We use both for very different purposes. Orthogon primarily for NLOS. We use Exalt for high throughput 5Ghz links. We used to use Orthogon for the same thing, but Exalt's sync capability allows for better spectrum usage, which is more important to us. -Matt Mike Hammett wrote: It seems that Orthogon is about the same price, about the same channel size, and more bandwidth. I see a TDM optimization in the Orthogon settings, though I dunno if they actually offer any TDM interfaces. I also see a latency optimization setting, though my link is about 8 ms. Not sure how that relates to others. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: "Mike Brownson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 12:25 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.4 Ghz They tend to sell for comparable dollars to the Orthogon products. MSRP is $12K - $16K depending on version. They also include at least 4 T1s without tapping into the ethernet bandwidth. Seems each product has it's sweet spot. Orthogon is great for dificult paths. Exalt is great for low latency and T1s. Also with adjustable bandwidth it can fit in between inteference, so may be good for crowded areas. And now for the commercial, Electro-Comm is a master distributor for Exalt. Mike B George Rogato wrote: How much? Dylan Oliver wrote: Brett Bonomo and Greg VanDell of Exalt provided amazing pre-sales support when I inquired about their 4.9 GHz gear for an RFP a few weeks ago. Exalt takes the cake in 4.9 GHz because of high guaranteed throughput (up to 55 Mbps goodput with 20 MHz channel) and sync, which would allow many more than two links to be deployed from a central location. They can also do sub-millisecond latency (or up to 5 ms for maximum throughput) and have adjustable channel sizes - down to 5 MHz, I believe, with 1 MHz spacing - to help one fit into cluttered spectrum. All of these things apply to the 5.xtri-band product, except that it can do 13 Mbps (in 8 MHz) to 216 Mbps (in 64 MHz). The integrated tri-band radio/antenna looks like the most flexible option out there right now for shorter links where any of the three bands would work. On 5/7/07, Mike Hammett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: http://www.exaltcom.com/ -- Mike Brownson Electro-comm Distributing 5015 Paris St Denver, CO 80239 www.electro-comm.com (303) 371-8182 x112, (800) 525-0173 Your 24x7 support staff is at www.ShopECBIZ.com We're your complete back-haul solutions source ---licensed, unlicensed, 1Mb to 1.25Gb--- In stock, from Tranzeo 900MHz PtMP -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 5.4 Ghz
It seems that Orthogon is about the same price, about the same channel size, and more bandwidth. I see a TDM optimization in the Orthogon settings, though I dunno if they actually offer any TDM interfaces. I also see a latency optimization setting, though my link is about 8 ms. Not sure how that relates to others. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: "Mike Brownson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 12:25 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.4 Ghz They tend to sell for comparable dollars to the Orthogon products. MSRP is $12K - $16K depending on version. They also include at least 4 T1s without tapping into the ethernet bandwidth. Seems each product has it's sweet spot. Orthogon is great for dificult paths. Exalt is great for low latency and T1s. Also with adjustable bandwidth it can fit in between inteference, so may be good for crowded areas. And now for the commercial, Electro-Comm is a master distributor for Exalt. Mike B George Rogato wrote: How much? Dylan Oliver wrote: Brett Bonomo and Greg VanDell of Exalt provided amazing pre-sales support when I inquired about their 4.9 GHz gear for an RFP a few weeks ago. Exalt takes the cake in 4.9 GHz because of high guaranteed throughput (up to 55 Mbps goodput with 20 MHz channel) and sync, which would allow many more than two links to be deployed from a central location. They can also do sub-millisecond latency (or up to 5 ms for maximum throughput) and have adjustable channel sizes - down to 5 MHz, I believe, with 1 MHz spacing - to help one fit into cluttered spectrum. All of these things apply to the 5.xtri-band product, except that it can do 13 Mbps (in 8 MHz) to 216 Mbps (in 64 MHz). The integrated tri-band radio/antenna looks like the most flexible option out there right now for shorter links where any of the three bands would work. On 5/7/07, Mike Hammett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: http://www.exaltcom.com/ -- Mike Brownson Electro-comm Distributing 5015 Paris St Denver, CO 80239 www.electro-comm.com (303) 371-8182 x112, (800) 525-0173 Your 24x7 support staff is at www.ShopECBIZ.com We're your complete back-haul solutions source ---licensed, unlicensed, 1Mb to 1.25Gb--- In stock, from Tranzeo 900MHz PtMP -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 5.4 Ghz
They tend to sell for comparable dollars to the Orthogon products. MSRP is $12K - $16K depending on version. They also include at least 4 T1s without tapping into the ethernet bandwidth. Seems each product has it's sweet spot. Orthogon is great for dificult paths. Exalt is great for low latency and T1s. Also with adjustable bandwidth it can fit in between inteference, so may be good for crowded areas. And now for the commercial, Electro-Comm is a master distributor for Exalt. Mike B George Rogato wrote: How much? Dylan Oliver wrote: Brett Bonomo and Greg VanDell of Exalt provided amazing pre-sales support when I inquired about their 4.9 GHz gear for an RFP a few weeks ago. Exalt takes the cake in 4.9 GHz because of high guaranteed throughput (up to 55 Mbps goodput with 20 MHz channel) and sync, which would allow many more than two links to be deployed from a central location. They can also do sub-millisecond latency (or up to 5 ms for maximum throughput) and have adjustable channel sizes - down to 5 MHz, I believe, with 1 MHz spacing - to help one fit into cluttered spectrum. All of these things apply to the 5.xtri-band product, except that it can do 13 Mbps (in 8 MHz) to 216 Mbps (in 64 MHz). The integrated tri-band radio/antenna looks like the most flexible option out there right now for shorter links where any of the three bands would work. On 5/7/07, Mike Hammett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: http://www.exaltcom.com/ -- Mike Brownson Electro-comm Distributing 5015 Paris St Denver, CO 80239 www.electro-comm.com (303) 371-8182 x112, (800) 525-0173 Your 24x7 support staff is at www.ShopECBIZ.com We're your complete back-haul solutions source ---licensed, unlicensed, 1Mb to 1.25Gb--- In stock, from Tranzeo 900MHz PtMP -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] 5.4 Ghz
Greg used to be with DragonWave. I think that they a have a quality product. The fact that you can change the channel size is very nice. I really like my Orthogon radios, but definitely will look at exalt on my next 5.xGhz backhaul. Mike Bushard, Jr Wisper Wireless Solutions, LLC 320-256-WISP (9477) 320-256-9478 Fax -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dylan Oliver Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 5:21 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.4 Ghz Brett Bonomo and Greg VanDell of Exalt provided amazing pre-sales support when I inquired about their 4.9 GHz gear for an RFP a few weeks ago. Exalt takes the cake in 4.9 GHz because of high guaranteed throughput (up to 55 Mbps goodput with 20 MHz channel) and sync, which would allow many more than two links to be deployed from a central location. They can also do sub-millisecond latency (or up to 5 ms for maximum throughput) and have adjustable channel sizes - down to 5 MHz, I believe, with 1 MHz spacing - to help one fit into cluttered spectrum. All of these things apply to the 5.xtri-band product, except that it can do 13 Mbps (in 8 MHz) to 216 Mbps (in 64 MHz). The integrated tri-band radio/antenna looks like the most flexible option out there right now for shorter links where any of the three bands would work. On 5/7/07, Mike Hammett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > http://www.exaltcom.com/ > > Anyone else heard of these guys? I'm guessing since bob is keeping up on > them, they're worth keeping up on. > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > > - Original Message - > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "WISPA General List" > Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 4:05 PM > Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.4 Ghz > > > Exalt real soon > > Bob > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > > -Original Message- > From: "Mike Hammett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Mon, 7 May 2007 15:46:23 > To:"WISPA General List" > Subject: [WISPA] 5.4 Ghz > > Redline has a certified product released. Orthogon is about to have > theirs > out. Anyone else? > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > -- > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > -- > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > -- > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > -- Dylan Oliver Primaverity, LLC -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 5.4 Ghz
How much? Dylan Oliver wrote: Brett Bonomo and Greg VanDell of Exalt provided amazing pre-sales support when I inquired about their 4.9 GHz gear for an RFP a few weeks ago. Exalt takes the cake in 4.9 GHz because of high guaranteed throughput (up to 55 Mbps goodput with 20 MHz channel) and sync, which would allow many more than two links to be deployed from a central location. They can also do sub-millisecond latency (or up to 5 ms for maximum throughput) and have adjustable channel sizes - down to 5 MHz, I believe, with 1 MHz spacing - to help one fit into cluttered spectrum. All of these things apply to the 5.xtri-band product, except that it can do 13 Mbps (in 8 MHz) to 216 Mbps (in 64 MHz). The integrated tri-band radio/antenna looks like the most flexible option out there right now for shorter links where any of the three bands would work. On 5/7/07, Mike Hammett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: http://www.exaltcom.com/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 5.4 Ghz
Brett Bonomo and Greg VanDell of Exalt provided amazing pre-sales support when I inquired about their 4.9 GHz gear for an RFP a few weeks ago. Exalt takes the cake in 4.9 GHz because of high guaranteed throughput (up to 55 Mbps goodput with 20 MHz channel) and sync, which would allow many more than two links to be deployed from a central location. They can also do sub-millisecond latency (or up to 5 ms for maximum throughput) and have adjustable channel sizes - down to 5 MHz, I believe, with 1 MHz spacing - to help one fit into cluttered spectrum. All of these things apply to the 5.xtri-band product, except that it can do 13 Mbps (in 8 MHz) to 216 Mbps (in 64 MHz). The integrated tri-band radio/antenna looks like the most flexible option out there right now for shorter links where any of the three bands would work. On 5/7/07, Mike Hammett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: http://www.exaltcom.com/ Anyone else heard of these guys? I'm guessing since bob is keeping up on them, they're worth keeping up on. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 4:05 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.4 Ghz Exalt real soon Bob Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: "Mike Hammett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Mon, 7 May 2007 15:46:23 To:"WISPA General List" Subject: [WISPA] 5.4 Ghz Redline has a certified product released. Orthogon is about to have theirs out. Anyone else? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Dylan Oliver Primaverity, LLC -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 5.4 Ghz
Mike Hammett wrote: http://www.exaltcom.com/ Anyone else heard of these guys? I'm guessing since bob is keeping up on them, they're worth keeping up on. We have deployed Exalt radios and find the have a pretty unique offering. -Matt -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 5.4 Ghz
http://www.exaltcom.com/ Anyone else heard of these guys? I'm guessing since bob is keeping up on them, they're worth keeping up on. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 4:05 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.4 Ghz Exalt real soon Bob Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: "Mike Hammett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Mon, 7 May 2007 15:46:23 To:"WISPA General List" Subject: [WISPA] 5.4 Ghz Redline has a certified product released. Orthogon is about to have theirs out. Anyone else? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 5.4 Ghz
Exalt real soon Bob Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: "Mike Hammett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Mon, 7 May 2007 15:46:23 To:"WISPA General List" Subject: [WISPA] 5.4 Ghz Redline has a certified product released. Orthogon is about to have theirs out. Anyone else? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
