Re: [WISPA] Gotta Have

2009-10-19 Thread Matt Larsen - Lists
Speaking of multi-tool - these are awesome

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000XU43IC/ref=ox_ya_oh_product

If I forget something from the toolbag, this is great.   It is also a 
lot lighter than the traditional old Leathermen, that were so heavy you 
started to lean to one side.   This is just like a slightly large 
pocketknife.   Highly recommended.

Matt Larsen
vistabeam.com


Robert West wrote:
> Ah...  But go try and buy a metal coat hanger these days.  Our old
> standby multi-tool is becoming extinct.
>
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Re: [WISPA] Gotta Have

2009-10-19 Thread Eje Gustafsson
Time to start using the drycleaner ;) I always get one or more nice new
multi-tool when I pick the drycleaning ;) 

/ Eje

-Original Message-
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Behalf Of Robert West
Sent: Monday, October 19, 2009 11:44 AM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Gotta Have

Ah...  But go try and buy a metal coat hanger these days.  Our old
standby multi-tool is becoming extinct.



-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Gary Garrett
Sent: Monday, October 19, 2009 12:35 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Gotta Have

Its called a "Coat Hanger."

Mark McElvy wrote:
> Where do you get or call those 1ft long wires?
> 
> Mark McElvy
>  
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
> Sent: Monday, October 19, 2009 9:09 AM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Gotta Have
> 
> Travis,
> 
> If you'll go through $200 per month in connectors these will save you at
> least $500 in labor. 
> 
> It takes less than half the time to make a connection and they are NEVER
> wrong.  These and the Times LMR400 stripper have been some of the best
> tools I've ever purchased.
> 
> Those and a 1' long "wire" that slips just inside a cat5 cable so that
> it can easily be pushed through a wall without getting hung up on the
> insulation etc.
> 
> Laters,
> marlon
> 
>   - Original Message - 
>   From: Travis Johnson 
>   To: WISPA General List 
>   Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2009 2:00 PM
>   Subject: Re: [WISPA] Gotta Have
> 
> 
>   These do look great... and I would love to buy them for my
> installers... but $.50 per connector compared to what I pay now would
> cost me an extra $200 per month just in connectors. :(
> 
>   Travis
>   Microserv
> 
>   Mike wrote: 
> They DO sell shielded. Part PLT-100020-050
>   Look further down the list at: www.ezrj45.com
> 
> 
> At 11:13 AM 10/18/2009, you wrote:
>   Yeah, those are awesome.  I wish they had shielded connectors as well.
> 
> marlon
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Mike" 
> To: "WISPA General List" 
> Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2009 7:01 AM
> Subject: [WISPA] Gotta Have
> 
> 
> I have learned a lot from this list.  I think there is some real
> talent lurking here.  We all have discovered certain things which
> just make life as a WISP easier.  I think it would be beneficial to
> list participants in general if there was a thread which contained a
> description and use of something you find invaluable -- hardware,
> software etc ... you would like to share with the group.
> 
> I'll start:
> 
> what: EZRJ-45 connector system
> where: www.ezrj45.com
> why:  As my eyes get older, and especially in low light situations, I
> find it very difficult to get all those individual conductors on a
> CAT5 run in the right order while crimping an end.  This is a quite
> ingenious system.  The plugs have holes all the way through.  You can
> verify the color code easily BEFORE crimping and cutting the
> tags.  It takes a special crimp tool which has a pair of blades that
> cut the tags as it crimps the connector in place.  Maybe not a time
> saver in my case, but definitely a GRIEF saver.  I've not miswired an
> Ethernet plug since I started using this system.
> 
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Re: [WISPA] Gotta Have

2009-10-19 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
Those are too small.  The cat5 won't "stick" on them tightly.
marlon

- Original Message - 
From: "Gary Garrett" 
To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Monday, October 19, 2009 9:34 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Gotta Have


> Its called a "Coat Hanger."
>
> Mark McElvy wrote:
>> Where do you get or call those 1ft long wires?
>>
>> Mark McElvy
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>> Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
>> Sent: Monday, October 19, 2009 9:09 AM
>> To: WISPA General List
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Gotta Have
>>
>> Travis,
>>
>> If you'll go through $200 per month in connectors these will save you at
>> least $500 in labor.
>>
>> It takes less than half the time to make a connection and they are NEVER
>> wrong.  These and the Times LMR400 stripper have been some of the best
>> tools I've ever purchased.
>>
>> Those and a 1' long "wire" that slips just inside a cat5 cable so that
>> it can easily be pushed through a wall without getting hung up on the
>> insulation etc.
>>
>> Laters,
>> marlon
>>
>>   - Original Message - 
>>   From: Travis Johnson
>>   To: WISPA General List
>>   Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2009 2:00 PM
>>   Subject: Re: [WISPA] Gotta Have
>>
>>
>>   These do look great... and I would love to buy them for my
>> installers... but $.50 per connector compared to what I pay now would
>> cost me an extra $200 per month just in connectors. :(
>>
>>   Travis
>>   Microserv
>>
>>   Mike wrote:
>> They DO sell shielded. Part PLT-100020-050
>>   Look further down the list at: www.ezrj45.com
>>
>>
>> At 11:13 AM 10/18/2009, you wrote:
>>   Yeah, those are awesome.  I wish they had shielded connectors as well.
>>
>> marlon
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Mike" 
>> To: "WISPA General List" 
>> Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2009 7:01 AM
>> Subject: [WISPA] Gotta Have
>>
>>
>> I have learned a lot from this list.  I think there is some real
>> talent lurking here.  We all have discovered certain things which
>> just make life as a WISP easier.  I think it would be beneficial to
>> list participants in general if there was a thread which contained a
>> description and use of something you find invaluable -- hardware,
>> software etc ... you would like to share with the group.
>>
>> I'll start:
>>
>> what: EZRJ-45 connector system
>> where: www.ezrj45.com
>> why:  As my eyes get older, and especially in low light situations, I
>> find it very difficult to get all those individual conductors on a
>> CAT5 run in the right order while crimping an end.  This is a quite
>> ingenious system.  The plugs have holes all the way through.  You can
>> verify the color code easily BEFORE crimping and cutting the
>> tags.  It takes a special crimp tool which has a pair of blades that
>> cut the tags as it crimps the connector in place.  Maybe not a time
>> saver in my case, but definitely a GRIEF saver.  I've not miswired an
>> Ethernet plug since I started using this system.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [WISPA] Gotta Have

2009-10-19 Thread Robert West
Ah...  But go try and buy a metal coat hanger these days.  Our old
standby multi-tool is becoming extinct.



-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Gary Garrett
Sent: Monday, October 19, 2009 12:35 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Gotta Have

Its called a "Coat Hanger."

Mark McElvy wrote:
> Where do you get or call those 1ft long wires?
> 
> Mark McElvy
>  
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
> Sent: Monday, October 19, 2009 9:09 AM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Gotta Have
> 
> Travis,
> 
> If you'll go through $200 per month in connectors these will save you at
> least $500 in labor. 
> 
> It takes less than half the time to make a connection and they are NEVER
> wrong.  These and the Times LMR400 stripper have been some of the best
> tools I've ever purchased.
> 
> Those and a 1' long "wire" that slips just inside a cat5 cable so that
> it can easily be pushed through a wall without getting hung up on the
> insulation etc.
> 
> Laters,
> marlon
> 
>   - Original Message ----- 
>   From: Travis Johnson 
>   To: WISPA General List 
>   Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2009 2:00 PM
>   Subject: Re: [WISPA] Gotta Have
> 
> 
>   These do look great... and I would love to buy them for my
> installers... but $.50 per connector compared to what I pay now would
> cost me an extra $200 per month just in connectors. :(
> 
>   Travis
>   Microserv
> 
>   Mike wrote: 
> They DO sell shielded. Part PLT-100020-050
>   Look further down the list at: www.ezrj45.com
> 
> 
> At 11:13 AM 10/18/2009, you wrote:
>   Yeah, those are awesome.  I wish they had shielded connectors as well.
> 
> marlon
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Mike" 
> To: "WISPA General List" 
> Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2009 7:01 AM
> Subject: [WISPA] Gotta Have
> 
> 
> I have learned a lot from this list.  I think there is some real
> talent lurking here.  We all have discovered certain things which
> just make life as a WISP easier.  I think it would be beneficial to
> list participants in general if there was a thread which contained a
> description and use of something you find invaluable -- hardware,
> software etc ... you would like to share with the group.
> 
> I'll start:
> 
> what: EZRJ-45 connector system
> where: www.ezrj45.com
> why:  As my eyes get older, and especially in low light situations, I
> find it very difficult to get all those individual conductors on a
> CAT5 run in the right order while crimping an end.  This is a quite
> ingenious system.  The plugs have holes all the way through.  You can
> verify the color code easily BEFORE crimping and cutting the
> tags.  It takes a special crimp tool which has a pair of blades that
> cut the tags as it crimps the connector in place.  Maybe not a time
> saver in my case, but definitely a GRIEF saver.  I've not miswired an
> Ethernet plug since I started using this system.
> 
> Mike
> 
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Re: [WISPA] Gotta Have

2009-10-19 Thread Gary Garrett
Its called a "Coat Hanger."

Mark McElvy wrote:
> Where do you get or call those 1ft long wires?
> 
> Mark McElvy
>  
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
> Sent: Monday, October 19, 2009 9:09 AM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Gotta Have
> 
> Travis,
> 
> If you'll go through $200 per month in connectors these will save you at
> least $500 in labor. 
> 
> It takes less than half the time to make a connection and they are NEVER
> wrong.  These and the Times LMR400 stripper have been some of the best
> tools I've ever purchased.
> 
> Those and a 1' long "wire" that slips just inside a cat5 cable so that
> it can easily be pushed through a wall without getting hung up on the
> insulation etc.
> 
> Laters,
> marlon
> 
>   - Original Message ----- 
>   From: Travis Johnson 
>   To: WISPA General List 
>   Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2009 2:00 PM
>   Subject: Re: [WISPA] Gotta Have
> 
> 
>   These do look great... and I would love to buy them for my
> installers... but $.50 per connector compared to what I pay now would
> cost me an extra $200 per month just in connectors. :(
> 
>   Travis
>   Microserv
> 
>   Mike wrote: 
> They DO sell shielded. Part PLT-100020-050
>   Look further down the list at: www.ezrj45.com
> 
> 
> At 11:13 AM 10/18/2009, you wrote:
>   Yeah, those are awesome.  I wish they had shielded connectors as well.
> 
> marlon
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Mike" 
> To: "WISPA General List" 
> Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2009 7:01 AM
> Subject: [WISPA] Gotta Have
> 
> 
> I have learned a lot from this list.  I think there is some real
> talent lurking here.  We all have discovered certain things which
> just make life as a WISP easier.  I think it would be beneficial to
> list participants in general if there was a thread which contained a
> description and use of something you find invaluable -- hardware,
> software etc ... you would like to share with the group.
> 
> I'll start:
> 
> what: EZRJ-45 connector system
> where: www.ezrj45.com
> why:  As my eyes get older, and especially in low light situations, I
> find it very difficult to get all those individual conductors on a
> CAT5 run in the right order while crimping an end.  This is a quite
> ingenious system.  The plugs have holes all the way through.  You can
> verify the color code easily BEFORE crimping and cutting the
> tags.  It takes a special crimp tool which has a pair of blades that
> cut the tags as it crimps the connector in place.  Maybe not a time
> saver in my case, but definitely a GRIEF saver.  I've not miswired an
> Ethernet plug since I started using this system.
> 
> Mike
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [WISPA] Gotta Have

2009-10-19 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
I'll have to try that!  Sounds like about the right thing.
marlon

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To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Monday, October 19, 2009 7:56 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Gotta Have


>I just use an old chain saw file. Lots of those around here. About a
> foot long, pointed on one end. Going through a wall, I drill the hole
> about the same size as the cat5, jam the pointed end of the file in the
> end of the cat5, then push through the hole. Works great! I did have to
> learn to keep a few extra files in the truck though. I seem to have a
> difficult time keeping track of them.
>
> John
>
> Marlon K. Schafer wrote:
>> At a welding shop.  I took a hunk of cat5 cable in and found a welding 
>> rod
>> that JUST fit inside it.  (pull the outer insulation out .5" or so)
>>
>> I had to grind a point on both ends and also "rough" up the wire so that 
>> it
>> would "stick" inside the cable better.  Took a few tries to get right but
>> now that I have it nailed down it's soo cool.  I don't have to drill 
>> a
>> bigger hole.  I don't have to fight with the drill flutes to find the 
>> hole
>> in the end of the drill bit.  It doesn't take two people (one to pull the
>> other to feed the wire) etc.
>>
>> I've also got an 18" one that works great in trailer house floors.  Drill
>> the hole in the floor, poke the rod/wire through the insulation below, go
>> down, find the rod, wiggle it a bit to enlarge the hole, pull the cat 5 
>> down
>> and off you go.
>>
>> laters,
>> marlon
>>
>>
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Re: [WISPA] Gotta Have

2009-10-19 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
More like this:
http://www.licensedelectrician.com/Store/RT/E-Z_Roll.htm
But much smaller.  No wheels, and a handle on the top for carrying.
marlon

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From: "Jeremy Parr" 
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Sent: Monday, October 19, 2009 7:54 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Gotta Have


2009/10/19 Marlon K. Schafer :
> My next project will be to build a cable rack for it. A lot of 
> electricians
> use them. Just a "tool" kit with a handle on top and a removable pipe that
> you can slide the spool on.

http://www.licensedelectrician.com/Store/RT/Rack-A-Tiers_Page.htm

They fold, they stack, and they're lightweight.



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Re: [WISPA] Gotta Have

2009-10-19 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
LOL

Not worth it for a $2.00 item.  grin

I really wanted some all-thread for this but couldn't find the right size. 
I figured that would hold on the other cat5 better.
marlon

- Original Message - 
From: "Robert West" 
To: "'WISPA General List'" 
Sent: Monday, October 19, 2009 7:47 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Gotta Have


> Sounds like a sales opportunity, Marlon..
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
> Sent: Monday, October 19, 2009 10:36 AM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Gotta Have
>
> At a welding shop.  I took a hunk of cat5 cable in and found a welding rod
> that JUST fit inside it.  (pull the outer insulation out .5" or so)
>
> I had to grind a point on both ends and also "rough" up the wire so that 
> it
> would "stick" inside the cable better.  Took a few tries to get right but
> now that I have it nailed down it's soo cool.  I don't have to drill a
> bigger hole.  I don't have to fight with the drill flutes to find the hole
> in the end of the drill bit.  It doesn't take two people (one to pull the
> other to feed the wire) etc.
>
> I've also got an 18" one that works great in trailer house floors.  Drill
> the hole in the floor, poke the rod/wire through the insulation below, go
> down, find the rod, wiggle it a bit to enlarge the hole, pull the cat 5 
> down
>
> and off you go.
>
> laters,
> marlon
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Mark McElvy" 
> To: "WISPA General List" 
> Sent: Monday, October 19, 2009 7:19 AM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Gotta Have
>
>
>> Where do you get or call those 1ft long wires?
>>
>> Mark McElvy
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>> Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
>> Sent: Monday, October 19, 2009 9:09 AM
>> To: WISPA General List
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Gotta Have
>>
>> Travis,
>>
>> If you'll go through $200 per month in connectors these will save you at
>> least $500 in labor.
>>
>> It takes less than half the time to make a connection and they are NEVER
>> wrong.  These and the Times LMR400 stripper have been some of the best
>> tools I've ever purchased.
>>
>> Those and a 1' long "wire" that slips just inside a cat5 cable so that
>> it can easily be pushed through a wall without getting hung up on the
>> insulation etc.
>>
>> Laters,
>> marlon
>>
>>  - Original Message - 
>>  From: Travis Johnson
>>  To: WISPA General List
>>  Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2009 2:00 PM
>>  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Gotta Have
>>
>>
>>  These do look great... and I would love to buy them for my
>> installers... but $.50 per connector compared to what I pay now would
>> cost me an extra $200 per month just in connectors. :(
>>
>>  Travis
>>  Microserv
>>
>>  Mike wrote:
>> They DO sell shielded. Part PLT-100020-050
>>  Look further down the list at: www.ezrj45.com
>>
>>
>> At 11:13 AM 10/18/2009, you wrote:
>>  Yeah, those are awesome.  I wish they had shielded connectors as well.
>>
>> marlon
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Mike" 
>> To: "WISPA General List" 
>> Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2009 7:01 AM
>> Subject: [WISPA] Gotta Have
>>
>>
>>I have learned a lot from this list.  I think there is some real
>> talent lurking here.  We all have discovered certain things which
>> just make life as a WISP easier.  I think it would be beneficial to
>> list participants in general if there was a thread which contained a
>> description and use of something you find invaluable -- hardware,
>> software etc ... you would like to share with the group.
>>
>> I'll start:
>>
>> what: EZRJ-45 connector system
>> where: www.ezrj45.com
>> why:  As my eyes get older, and especially in low light situations, I
>> find it very difficult to get all those individual conductors on a
>> CAT5 run in the right order while crimping an end.  This is a quite
>> ingenious system.  The plugs have holes all the way through.  You can
>> verify the color code easily BEFORE crimping and cutting the
>> tags.  It takes a special crimp tool which has a pair of blades that
>> cut the tags as it crimps the connector in place.  Maybe 

Re: [WISPA] Gotta Have

2009-10-19 Thread Mark McElvy
I use 50ft (about 45ft actual) Rohn telescoping mast for site surveys
when I need height. We have lots of massive trees. And we regularly
extend them full height while holding them about 15 to 20 ft up.

Mark 


-Original Message-
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Behalf Of Mike
Sent: Monday, October 19, 2009 9:44 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Gotta Have

Not on a windy day!  I do push it up 26' unguyed regularly.  34 foot 
is a little harrier. They have a drive on mount that makes it nice as 
a socket to hold the pole.  It's fiberglass so you can't get 
electrocuted if you get stupid.  It pushes up real easily, a lot 
better than that rat shack steel one.  That is a Rohn, right?

Mike

At 09:16 AM 10/19/2009, you wrote:
>Can it go 40' unguyed?  How hard it is to push it up?  I've got a
similar
>30' that came from Radio Shack I think, but I can't get it to 30'
unguyed.
>But, it was a LOT less cost than this one.
>
>
>
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>Behalf Of Robert West
>Sent: Monday, October 19, 2009 8:54 AM
>To: 'WISPA General List'
>Subject: Re: [WISPA] Gotta Have
>
>Damn, I love this thing already.Good price too, how quick can you
put
>this up?
>
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>Behalf Of Mike
>Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2009 9:01 PM
>To: WISPA General List
>Subject: [WISPA] Gotta Have
>
>what:   wonderpole 40' fiberglass "push up" pole
>where:  http://www.wonderpole.com/wp640_630.html
>why:It is easy to take a telescoping pole to a site survey and
>put a panel up in air for testing.  I don't push mine out to 40'
>often, and not for long, but regularly push it up 26' or so to do a
>test.  Well made, reasonably priced, and made in the good old USA.
>
>
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Re: [WISPA] Gotta Have

2009-10-19 Thread John Vogel
I just use an old chain saw file. Lots of those around here. About a
foot long, pointed on one end. Going through a wall, I drill the hole
about the same size as the cat5, jam the pointed end of the file in the
end of the cat5, then push through the hole. Works great! I did have to
learn to keep a few extra files in the truck though. I seem to have a
difficult time keeping track of them.

John

Marlon K. Schafer wrote:
> At a welding shop.  I took a hunk of cat5 cable in and found a welding rod 
> that JUST fit inside it.  (pull the outer insulation out .5" or so)
>
> I had to grind a point on both ends and also "rough" up the wire so that it 
> would "stick" inside the cable better.  Took a few tries to get right but 
> now that I have it nailed down it's soo cool.  I don't have to drill a 
> bigger hole.  I don't have to fight with the drill flutes to find the hole 
> in the end of the drill bit.  It doesn't take two people (one to pull the 
> other to feed the wire) etc.
>
> I've also got an 18" one that works great in trailer house floors.  Drill 
> the hole in the floor, poke the rod/wire through the insulation below, go 
> down, find the rod, wiggle it a bit to enlarge the hole, pull the cat 5 down 
> and off you go.
>
> laters,
> marlon
>
>   




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Re: [WISPA] Gotta Have

2009-10-19 Thread Jeremy Parr
2009/10/19 Marlon K. Schafer :
> My next project will be to build a cable rack for it.  A lot of electricians
> use them.  Just a "tool" kit with a handle on top and a removable pipe that
> you can slide the spool on.

http://www.licensedelectrician.com/Store/RT/Rack-A-Tiers_Page.htm

They fold, they stack, and they're lightweight.



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Re: [WISPA] Gotta Have

2009-10-19 Thread Robert West
Sounds like a sales opportunity, Marlon..



-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
Sent: Monday, October 19, 2009 10:36 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Gotta Have

At a welding shop.  I took a hunk of cat5 cable in and found a welding rod 
that JUST fit inside it.  (pull the outer insulation out .5" or so)

I had to grind a point on both ends and also "rough" up the wire so that it 
would "stick" inside the cable better.  Took a few tries to get right but 
now that I have it nailed down it's soo cool.  I don't have to drill a 
bigger hole.  I don't have to fight with the drill flutes to find the hole 
in the end of the drill bit.  It doesn't take two people (one to pull the 
other to feed the wire) etc.

I've also got an 18" one that works great in trailer house floors.  Drill 
the hole in the floor, poke the rod/wire through the insulation below, go 
down, find the rod, wiggle it a bit to enlarge the hole, pull the cat 5 down

and off you go.

laters,
marlon

- Original Message - 
From: "Mark McElvy" 
To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Monday, October 19, 2009 7:19 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Gotta Have


> Where do you get or call those 1ft long wires?
>
> Mark McElvy
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
> Sent: Monday, October 19, 2009 9:09 AM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Gotta Have
>
> Travis,
>
> If you'll go through $200 per month in connectors these will save you at
> least $500 in labor.
>
> It takes less than half the time to make a connection and they are NEVER
> wrong.  These and the Times LMR400 stripper have been some of the best
> tools I've ever purchased.
>
> Those and a 1' long "wire" that slips just inside a cat5 cable so that
> it can easily be pushed through a wall without getting hung up on the
> insulation etc.
>
> Laters,
> marlon
>
>  - Original Message - 
>  From: Travis Johnson
>  To: WISPA General List
>  Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2009 2:00 PM
>  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Gotta Have
>
>
>  These do look great... and I would love to buy them for my
> installers... but $.50 per connector compared to what I pay now would
> cost me an extra $200 per month just in connectors. :(
>
>  Travis
>  Microserv
>
>  Mike wrote:
> They DO sell shielded. Part PLT-100020-050
>  Look further down the list at: www.ezrj45.com
>
>
> At 11:13 AM 10/18/2009, you wrote:
>  Yeah, those are awesome.  I wish they had shielded connectors as well.
>
> marlon
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Mike" 
> To: "WISPA General List" 
> Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2009 7:01 AM
> Subject: [WISPA] Gotta Have
>
>
>I have learned a lot from this list.  I think there is some real
> talent lurking here.  We all have discovered certain things which
> just make life as a WISP easier.  I think it would be beneficial to
> list participants in general if there was a thread which contained a
> description and use of something you find invaluable -- hardware,
> software etc ... you would like to share with the group.
>
> I'll start:
>
> what: EZRJ-45 connector system
> where: www.ezrj45.com
> why:  As my eyes get older, and especially in low light situations, I
> find it very difficult to get all those individual conductors on a
> CAT5 run in the right order while crimping an end.  This is a quite
> ingenious system.  The plugs have holes all the way through.  You can
> verify the color code easily BEFORE crimping and cutting the
> tags.  It takes a special crimp tool which has a pair of blades that
> cut the tags as it crimps the connector in place.  Maybe not a time
> saver in my case, but definitely a GRIEF saver.  I've not miswired an
> Ethernet plug since I started using this system.
>
> Mike
>
>
>
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Re: [WISPA] Gotta Have

2009-10-19 Thread Mike
Not on a windy day!  I do push it up 26' unguyed regularly.  34 foot 
is a little harrier. They have a drive on mount that makes it nice as 
a socket to hold the pole.  It's fiberglass so you can't get 
electrocuted if you get stupid.  It pushes up real easily, a lot 
better than that rat shack steel one.  That is a Rohn, right?

Mike

At 09:16 AM 10/19/2009, you wrote:
>Can it go 40' unguyed?  How hard it is to push it up?  I've got a similar
>30' that came from Radio Shack I think, but I can't get it to 30' unguyed.
>But, it was a LOT less cost than this one.
>
>
>
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>Behalf Of Robert West
>Sent: Monday, October 19, 2009 8:54 AM
>To: 'WISPA General List'
>Subject: Re: [WISPA] Gotta Have
>
>Damn, I love this thing already.Good price too, how quick can you put
>this up?
>
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>Behalf Of Mike
>Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2009 9:01 PM
>To: WISPA General List
>Subject: [WISPA] Gotta Have
>
>what:   wonderpole 40' fiberglass "push up" pole
>where:  http://www.wonderpole.com/wp640_630.html
>why:It is easy to take a telescoping pole to a site survey and
>put a panel up in air for testing.  I don't push mine out to 40'
>often, and not for long, but regularly push it up 26' or so to do a
>test.  Well made, reasonably priced, and made in the good old USA.
>
>
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Re: [WISPA] Gotta Have

2009-10-19 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
Yeah.  I just talked to Nusrat about that last week.  I think I've had ONE 
box that didn't come in all broken up.  I save all of the old pieces so I 
can fix them.  I do NOT keep the cable in the box either.  It's a PITA but 
the cable is so nice otherwise.

My next project will be to build a cable rack for it.  A lot of electricians 
use them.  Just a "tool" kit with a handle on top and a removable pipe that 
you can slide the spool on.

He did tell me that he would talk to his manufacturer about making spoolless 
boxes.  I asked for a mechanism like the Carlson Rabbit Pull cable boxes.  I 
love those.  Less junk to throw away, lighter, smaller boxes.  And very 
rarely a problem with how the cable spools out.

laters,
marlon

- Original Message - 
From: "Jayson Baker" 
To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Monday, October 19, 2009 7:25 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Gotta Have


> Marlon,
>
> We used to use the Shireen cable, but almost every single box we got (even
> we ordering 10+ at a time) had busted up plastic reels inside.
> A busted reel means you have a $150 boat anchor.  Installers hate dealing
> with it, and you usually end up with ugly twisted cable all over someones
> house.
>
> Where do you buy your from?  Direct?  Have you ever had issues with broken
> plastic reels inside?  I assume you UPS Ground ship them?
>
> Jayson
>
> On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 8:21 AM, Marlon K. Schafer 
> wrote:
>
>> Now that's funny.  I've run into this stuff when others have used it.  I
>> HATE the stuff.  In poor light (or LED head lamp etc.) I can't tell the
>> light colors apart.
>>
>> For cable I've been using Shireen.
>> http://www.shireeninc.com/osc/product_info.php?products_id=97
>>
>> He's out of my favorite right now.  I guess people didn't like it but I
>> sure
>> do.  Nusrat said he'd try to get some more of it in stock.  It's a gel
>> filled cat5 with an EXTRA shield around it.  So there are TWO layers of
>> outer jacket.  And the "gel" is dry  It doesn't make a mess of your
>> hands and/or tools.  Once the gel gets wet it swells up and seals the 
>> area,
>> forcing the water out.
>>
>> We have had NO problems of any kind when using this cable.
>>
>> I've got some of the foil shielded cable as well.  We're now using it on
>> nearly all of our tower sites.  So far so good.
>>
>> I used the indoor white cat 5 for a long time.  People would much rather
>> have white cable run around the house than any other color.  It's also in 
>> a
>> nice box, easy to work with etc.  But  something changed a couple of 
>> years
>> ago.  Even out here, where it so seldom rains, we started getting water 
>> in
>> the cables.  It would find a hole somewhere, run down into the poe and 
>> the
>> corrosion destroys the poe boxes.  No more indoor cables out here.  It's 
>> a
>> little bit cheaper, but not enough so that it's worth the added cost of
>> re-cabling houses.
>> marlon
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "3-dB Networks" 
>> To: "'WISPA General List'" 
>> Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2009 5:03 PM
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Gotta Have
>>
>>
>> >I strongly recommend this cable because I think it helps a lot telling 
>> >if
>> > you got the right color wire in the right hole.  Sometimes finding that
>> > stripe on the white can be difficult:  http://tinyurl.com/ygxeywo
>> >
>> >
>> > Daniel White
>> > 3-dB Networks
>> > http://www.3dbnetworks.com
>> >
>> >
>> >>-Original Message-
>> >>From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>> >>Behalf Of Tom DeReggi
>> >>Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2009 5:56 PM
>> >>To: WISPA General List
>> >>Subject: Re: [WISPA] Gotta Have
>> >>
>> >>But you're missing the point.
>> >>Yeah, Its definately not worth it, for those that can use the standard
>> >>CAT5s
>> >>effectively.
>> >>But your math assumes that they can, and not considering the other
>> >>costs.
>> >>The ROI is NOT on the time saved comparing successful installs,
>> >>comparing
>> >>both types.
>> >>The ROI is on time saved comparing costs of failed connector installs.
>> >>
>> >>What does it cost you if you crimp an end, and get a flaky crimp, and
>> >>the
>> >>link not work? How long do

Re: [WISPA] Gotta Have

2009-10-19 Thread 3-dB Networks
The cable I linked to is outdoor rated/UV rated... not gel filled... I
always thought that was a little extreme for non-burial applications.

We had a lot of luck with that almond/beige color of that cable.  Blends
with most of the paint and roofs around here really well.  We used to use
white cable... man does that stick out on a roof!

Daniel White
3-dB Networks
http://www.3dbnetworks.com


>-Original Message-
>From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
>Sent: Monday, October 19, 2009 8:21 AM
>To: WISPA General List
>Subject: Re: [WISPA] Gotta Have
>
>Now that's funny.  I've run into this stuff when others have used it.  I
>HATE the stuff.  In poor light (or LED head lamp etc.) I can't tell the
>light colors apart.
>
>For cable I've been using Shireen.
>http://www.shireeninc.com/osc/product_info.php?products_id=97
>
>He's out of my favorite right now.  I guess people didn't like it but I
>sure
>do.  Nusrat said he'd try to get some more of it in stock.  It's a gel
>filled cat5 with an EXTRA shield around it.  So there are TWO layers of
>outer jacket.  And the "gel" is dry  It doesn't make a mess of your
>hands and/or tools.  Once the gel gets wet it swells up and seals the
>area,
>forcing the water out.
>
>We have had NO problems of any kind when using this cable.
>
>I've got some of the foil shielded cable as well.  We're now using it on
>nearly all of our tower sites.  So far so good.
>
>I used the indoor white cat 5 for a long time.  People would much rather
>have white cable run around the house than any other color.  It's also
>in a
>nice box, easy to work with etc.  But  something changed a couple of
>years
>ago.  Even out here, where it so seldom rains, we started getting water
>in
>the cables.  It would find a hole somewhere, run down into the poe and
>the
>corrosion destroys the poe boxes.  No more indoor cables out here.  It's
>a
>little bit cheaper, but not enough so that it's worth the added cost of
>re-cabling houses.
>marlon
>
>- Original Message -
>From: "3-dB Networks" 
>To: "'WISPA General List'" 
>Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2009 5:03 PM
>Subject: Re: [WISPA] Gotta Have
>
>
>>I strongly recommend this cable because I think it helps a lot telling
>if
>> you got the right color wire in the right hole.  Sometimes finding
>that
>> stripe on the white can be difficult:  http://tinyurl.com/ygxeywo
>>
>>
>> Daniel White
>> 3-dB Networks
>> http://www.3dbnetworks.com
>>
>>
>>>-Original Message-
>>>From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
>On
>>>Behalf Of Tom DeReggi
>>>Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2009 5:56 PM
>>>To: WISPA General List
>>>Subject: Re: [WISPA] Gotta Have
>>>
>>>But you're missing the point.
>>>Yeah, Its definately not worth it, for those that can use the standard
>>>CAT5s
>>>effectively.
>>>But your math assumes that they can, and not considering the other
>>>costs.
>>>The ROI is NOT on the time saved comparing successful installs,
>>>comparing
>>>both types.
>>>The ROI is on time saved comparing costs of failed connector installs.
>>>
>>>What does it cost you if you crimp an end, and get a flaky crimp, and
>>>the
>>>link not work? How long does it take to figure out which side of the
>>>cable
>>>had the bad crimp?
>>>A 25 cent RJ-45 becomes 50 cents, if you ahve to cut one off and
>replace
>>>it.
>>>I can give an example of recently where I had to send a guy back into
>>>the
>>>city (half day's labor) to fix a packet loss problem caused by
>defective
>>>CAT5 plug terminations.
>>>But most of the lost time was in the office troubleshooting the
>>>defective
>>>packloss link trying to find what was wrong.
>>>
>>>I can sympathise with eye sight degrating, in my older age :-( .
>>>The error rate of successful CAT5 terminations go up, if eye sight is
>>>going
>>>down.
>>>
>>>The question to ask is are the installers having to high a failure
>>>rate
>>>for their first crimpts? If they are, then it may be a good
>investment.
>>>As well, I look at my time as worth $100/hr, and I'd gladly spend the
>>>extra
>>>$100 for connectors if it meant I was more likely to have sucessful
>>>crimpts
>>>the first time.
>>>I 

Re: [WISPA] Gotta Have

2009-10-19 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
At a welding shop.  I took a hunk of cat5 cable in and found a welding rod 
that JUST fit inside it.  (pull the outer insulation out .5" or so)

I had to grind a point on both ends and also "rough" up the wire so that it 
would "stick" inside the cable better.  Took a few tries to get right but 
now that I have it nailed down it's soo cool.  I don't have to drill a 
bigger hole.  I don't have to fight with the drill flutes to find the hole 
in the end of the drill bit.  It doesn't take two people (one to pull the 
other to feed the wire) etc.

I've also got an 18" one that works great in trailer house floors.  Drill 
the hole in the floor, poke the rod/wire through the insulation below, go 
down, find the rod, wiggle it a bit to enlarge the hole, pull the cat 5 down 
and off you go.

laters,
marlon

- Original Message - 
From: "Mark McElvy" 
To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Monday, October 19, 2009 7:19 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Gotta Have


> Where do you get or call those 1ft long wires?
>
> Mark McElvy
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
> Sent: Monday, October 19, 2009 9:09 AM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Gotta Have
>
> Travis,
>
> If you'll go through $200 per month in connectors these will save you at
> least $500 in labor.
>
> It takes less than half the time to make a connection and they are NEVER
> wrong.  These and the Times LMR400 stripper have been some of the best
> tools I've ever purchased.
>
> Those and a 1' long "wire" that slips just inside a cat5 cable so that
> it can easily be pushed through a wall without getting hung up on the
> insulation etc.
>
> Laters,
> marlon
>
>  - Original Message - 
>  From: Travis Johnson
>  To: WISPA General List
>  Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2009 2:00 PM
>  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Gotta Have
>
>
>  These do look great... and I would love to buy them for my
> installers... but $.50 per connector compared to what I pay now would
> cost me an extra $200 per month just in connectors. :(
>
>  Travis
>  Microserv
>
>  Mike wrote:
> They DO sell shielded. Part PLT-100020-050
>  Look further down the list at: www.ezrj45.com
>
>
> At 11:13 AM 10/18/2009, you wrote:
>  Yeah, those are awesome.  I wish they had shielded connectors as well.
>
> marlon
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Mike" 
> To: "WISPA General List" 
> Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2009 7:01 AM
> Subject: [WISPA] Gotta Have
>
>
>I have learned a lot from this list.  I think there is some real
> talent lurking here.  We all have discovered certain things which
> just make life as a WISP easier.  I think it would be beneficial to
> list participants in general if there was a thread which contained a
> description and use of something you find invaluable -- hardware,
> software etc ... you would like to share with the group.
>
> I'll start:
>
> what: EZRJ-45 connector system
> where: www.ezrj45.com
> why:  As my eyes get older, and especially in low light situations, I
> find it very difficult to get all those individual conductors on a
> CAT5 run in the right order while crimping an end.  This is a quite
> ingenious system.  The plugs have holes all the way through.  You can
> verify the color code easily BEFORE crimping and cutting the
> tags.  It takes a special crimp tool which has a pair of blades that
> cut the tags as it crimps the connector in place.  Maybe not a time
> saver in my case, but definitely a GRIEF saver.  I've not miswired an
> Ethernet plug since I started using this system.
>
> Mike
>
>
>
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Re: [WISPA] Gotta Have

2009-10-19 Thread 3-dB Networks
A piece of 12 gauge solid copper wire always worked for me

Daniel White
3-dB Networks
http://www.3dbnetworks.com


>-Original Message-
>From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>Behalf Of Mark McElvy
>Sent: Monday, October 19, 2009 8:19 AM
>To: WISPA General List
>Subject: Re: [WISPA] Gotta Have
>
>Where do you get or call those 1ft long wires?
>
>Mark McElvy
>
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
>Sent: Monday, October 19, 2009 9:09 AM
>To: WISPA General List
>Subject: Re: [WISPA] Gotta Have
>
>Travis,
>
>If you'll go through $200 per month in connectors these will save you at
>least $500 in labor.
>
>It takes less than half the time to make a connection and they are NEVER
>wrong.  These and the Times LMR400 stripper have been some of the best
>tools I've ever purchased.
>
>Those and a 1' long "wire" that slips just inside a cat5 cable so that
>it can easily be pushed through a wall without getting hung up on the
>insulation etc.
>
>Laters,
>marlon
>
>  ----- Original Message -
>  From: Travis Johnson
>  To: WISPA General List
>  Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2009 2:00 PM
>  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Gotta Have
>
>
>  These do look great... and I would love to buy them for my
>installers... but $.50 per connector compared to what I pay now would
>cost me an extra $200 per month just in connectors. :(
>
>  Travis
>  Microserv
>
>  Mike wrote:
>They DO sell shielded. Part PLT-100020-050
>  Look further down the list at: www.ezrj45.com
>
>
>At 11:13 AM 10/18/2009, you wrote:
>  Yeah, those are awesome.  I wish they had shielded connectors as well.
>
>marlon
>
>- Original Message -
>From: "Mike" 
>To: "WISPA General List" 
>Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2009 7:01 AM
>Subject: [WISPA] Gotta Have
>
>
>I have learned a lot from this list.  I think there is some real
>talent lurking here.  We all have discovered certain things which
>just make life as a WISP easier.  I think it would be beneficial to
>list participants in general if there was a thread which contained a
>description and use of something you find invaluable -- hardware,
>software etc ... you would like to share with the group.
>
>I'll start:
>
>what: EZRJ-45 connector system
>where: www.ezrj45.com
>why:  As my eyes get older, and especially in low light situations, I
>find it very difficult to get all those individual conductors on a
>CAT5 run in the right order while crimping an end.  This is a quite
>ingenious system.  The plugs have holes all the way through.  You can
>verify the color code easily BEFORE crimping and cutting the
>tags.  It takes a special crimp tool which has a pair of blades that
>cut the tags as it crimps the connector in place.  Maybe not a time
>saver in my case, but definitely a GRIEF saver.  I've not miswired an
>Ethernet plug since I started using this system.
>
>Mike
>
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Re: [WISPA] Gotta Have

2009-10-19 Thread Jayson Baker
Marlon,

We used to use the Shireen cable, but almost every single box we got (even
we ordering 10+ at a time) had busted up plastic reels inside.
A busted reel means you have a $150 boat anchor.  Installers hate dealing
with it, and you usually end up with ugly twisted cable all over someones
house.

Where do you buy your from?  Direct?  Have you ever had issues with broken
plastic reels inside?  I assume you UPS Ground ship them?

Jayson

On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 8:21 AM, Marlon K. Schafer wrote:

> Now that's funny.  I've run into this stuff when others have used it.  I
> HATE the stuff.  In poor light (or LED head lamp etc.) I can't tell the
> light colors apart.
>
> For cable I've been using Shireen.
> http://www.shireeninc.com/osc/product_info.php?products_id=97
>
> He's out of my favorite right now.  I guess people didn't like it but I
> sure
> do.  Nusrat said he'd try to get some more of it in stock.  It's a gel
> filled cat5 with an EXTRA shield around it.  So there are TWO layers of
> outer jacket.  And the "gel" is dry  It doesn't make a mess of your
> hands and/or tools.  Once the gel gets wet it swells up and seals the area,
> forcing the water out.
>
> We have had NO problems of any kind when using this cable.
>
> I've got some of the foil shielded cable as well.  We're now using it on
> nearly all of our tower sites.  So far so good.
>
> I used the indoor white cat 5 for a long time.  People would much rather
> have white cable run around the house than any other color.  It's also in a
> nice box, easy to work with etc.  But  something changed a couple of years
> ago.  Even out here, where it so seldom rains, we started getting water in
> the cables.  It would find a hole somewhere, run down into the poe and the
> corrosion destroys the poe boxes.  No more indoor cables out here.  It's a
> little bit cheaper, but not enough so that it's worth the added cost of
> re-cabling houses.
> marlon
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "3-dB Networks" 
> To: "'WISPA General List'" 
> Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2009 5:03 PM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Gotta Have
>
>
> >I strongly recommend this cable because I think it helps a lot telling if
> > you got the right color wire in the right hole.  Sometimes finding that
> > stripe on the white can be difficult:  http://tinyurl.com/ygxeywo
> >
> >
> > Daniel White
> > 3-dB Networks
> > http://www.3dbnetworks.com
> >
> >
> >>-Original Message-
> >>From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> >>Behalf Of Tom DeReggi
> >>Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2009 5:56 PM
> >>To: WISPA General List
> >>Subject: Re: [WISPA] Gotta Have
> >>
> >>But you're missing the point.
> >>Yeah, Its definately not worth it, for those that can use the standard
> >>CAT5s
> >>effectively.
> >>But your math assumes that they can, and not considering the other
> >>costs.
> >>The ROI is NOT on the time saved comparing successful installs,
> >>comparing
> >>both types.
> >>The ROI is on time saved comparing costs of failed connector installs.
> >>
> >>What does it cost you if you crimp an end, and get a flaky crimp, and
> >>the
> >>link not work? How long does it take to figure out which side of the
> >>cable
> >>had the bad crimp?
> >>A 25 cent RJ-45 becomes 50 cents, if you ahve to cut one off and replace
> >>it.
> >>I can give an example of recently where I had to send a guy back into
> >>the
> >>city (half day's labor) to fix a packet loss problem caused by defective
> >>CAT5 plug terminations.
> >>But most of the lost time was in the office troubleshooting the
> >>defective
> >>packloss link trying to find what was wrong.
> >>
> >>I can sympathise with eye sight degrating, in my older age :-( .
> >>The error rate of successful CAT5 terminations go up, if eye sight is
> >>going
> >>down.
> >>
> >>The question to ask is are the installers having to high a failure
> >>rate
> >>for their first crimpts? If they are, then it may be a good investment.
> >>As well, I look at my time as worth $100/hr, and I'd gladly spend the
> >>extra
> >>$100 for connectors if it meant I was more likely to have sucessful
> >>crimpts
> >>the first time.
> >>I compare... Risking paying 25 cent extra verus risk spending extra $100
> >>in
> >>time f

Re: [WISPA] Gotta Have

2009-10-19 Thread Mark McElvy
Where do you get or call those 1ft long wires?

Mark McElvy
 


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
Sent: Monday, October 19, 2009 9:09 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Gotta Have

Travis,

If you'll go through $200 per month in connectors these will save you at
least $500 in labor. 

It takes less than half the time to make a connection and they are NEVER
wrong.  These and the Times LMR400 stripper have been some of the best
tools I've ever purchased.

Those and a 1' long "wire" that slips just inside a cat5 cable so that
it can easily be pushed through a wall without getting hung up on the
insulation etc.

Laters,
marlon

  - Original Message - 
  From: Travis Johnson 
  To: WISPA General List 
  Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2009 2:00 PM
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Gotta Have


  These do look great... and I would love to buy them for my
installers... but $.50 per connector compared to what I pay now would
cost me an extra $200 per month just in connectors. :(

  Travis
  Microserv

  Mike wrote: 
They DO sell shielded. Part PLT-100020-050
  Look further down the list at: www.ezrj45.com


At 11:13 AM 10/18/2009, you wrote:
  Yeah, those are awesome.  I wish they had shielded connectors as well.

marlon

- Original Message -
From: "Mike" 
To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2009 7:01 AM
Subject: [WISPA] Gotta Have


I have learned a lot from this list.  I think there is some real
talent lurking here.  We all have discovered certain things which
just make life as a WISP easier.  I think it would be beneficial to
list participants in general if there was a thread which contained a
description and use of something you find invaluable -- hardware,
software etc ... you would like to share with the group.

I'll start:

what: EZRJ-45 connector system
where: www.ezrj45.com
why:  As my eyes get older, and especially in low light situations, I
find it very difficult to get all those individual conductors on a
CAT5 run in the right order while crimping an end.  This is a quite
ingenious system.  The plugs have holes all the way through.  You can
verify the color code easily BEFORE crimping and cutting the
tags.  It takes a special crimp tool which has a pair of blades that
cut the tags as it crimps the connector in place.  Maybe not a time
saver in my case, but definitely a GRIEF saver.  I've not miswired an
Ethernet plug since I started using this system.

Mike





 


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Re: [WISPA] Gotta Have

2009-10-19 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
Now that's funny.  I've run into this stuff when others have used it.  I 
HATE the stuff.  In poor light (or LED head lamp etc.) I can't tell the 
light colors apart.

For cable I've been using Shireen.
http://www.shireeninc.com/osc/product_info.php?products_id=97

He's out of my favorite right now.  I guess people didn't like it but I sure 
do.  Nusrat said he'd try to get some more of it in stock.  It's a gel 
filled cat5 with an EXTRA shield around it.  So there are TWO layers of 
outer jacket.  And the "gel" is dry  It doesn't make a mess of your 
hands and/or tools.  Once the gel gets wet it swells up and seals the area, 
forcing the water out.

We have had NO problems of any kind when using this cable.

I've got some of the foil shielded cable as well.  We're now using it on 
nearly all of our tower sites.  So far so good.

I used the indoor white cat 5 for a long time.  People would much rather 
have white cable run around the house than any other color.  It's also in a 
nice box, easy to work with etc.  But  something changed a couple of years 
ago.  Even out here, where it so seldom rains, we started getting water in 
the cables.  It would find a hole somewhere, run down into the poe and the 
corrosion destroys the poe boxes.  No more indoor cables out here.  It's a 
little bit cheaper, but not enough so that it's worth the added cost of 
re-cabling houses.
marlon

- Original Message - 
From: "3-dB Networks" 
To: "'WISPA General List'" 
Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2009 5:03 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Gotta Have


>I strongly recommend this cable because I think it helps a lot telling if
> you got the right color wire in the right hole.  Sometimes finding that
> stripe on the white can be difficult:  http://tinyurl.com/ygxeywo
>
>
> Daniel White
> 3-dB Networks
> http://www.3dbnetworks.com
>
>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>>Behalf Of Tom DeReggi
>>Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2009 5:56 PM
>>To: WISPA General List
>>Subject: Re: [WISPA] Gotta Have
>>
>>But you're missing the point.
>>Yeah, Its definately not worth it, for those that can use the standard
>>CAT5s
>>effectively.
>>But your math assumes that they can, and not considering the other
>>costs.
>>The ROI is NOT on the time saved comparing successful installs,
>>comparing
>>both types.
>>The ROI is on time saved comparing costs of failed connector installs.
>>
>>What does it cost you if you crimp an end, and get a flaky crimp, and
>>the
>>link not work? How long does it take to figure out which side of the
>>cable
>>had the bad crimp?
>>A 25 cent RJ-45 becomes 50 cents, if you ahve to cut one off and replace
>>it.
>>I can give an example of recently where I had to send a guy back into
>>the
>>city (half day's labor) to fix a packet loss problem caused by defective
>>CAT5 plug terminations.
>>But most of the lost time was in the office troubleshooting the
>>defective
>>packloss link trying to find what was wrong.
>>
>>I can sympathise with eye sight degrating, in my older age :-( .
>>The error rate of successful CAT5 terminations go up, if eye sight is
>>going
>>down.
>>
>>The question to ask is are the installers having to high a failure
>>rate
>>for their first crimpts? If they are, then it may be a good investment.
>>As well, I look at my time as worth $100/hr, and I'd gladly spend the
>>extra
>>$100 for connectors if it meant I was more likely to have sucessful
>>crimpts
>>the first time.
>>I compare... Risking paying 25 cent extra verus risk spending extra $100
>>in
>>time figuring out where I made the Crimp mistake.
>>
>>For the record, I do not use EZ-Rj45 plugs. But I understand the value
>>of
>>Using the best RJ-45Plugs, and the ROI is there.  I personally like to
>>use
>>the the RJ45 Plugs sold by Shireen.
>>Ever since we started using them, terminations have been so much easier
>>and
>>successful.
>>
>>I like the Shireen plugs because they have just the right wire hole
>>diameters for the wire to slide in easy, and I can be certain that
>>they'll
>>slide into the right slots as I tried to align them to.
>>(Its becoming harder for me to tell the wire color once its inside the
>>Jack,
>>due to eyes). And I can be certain they'll crimp securely.
>>
>>I also got tired of the two peice CAT5 jacks, because I always kept
>>loosing
>>the second peices, and ended up having to throw awa

Re: [WISPA] Gotta Have

2009-10-19 Thread Jason Hensley
Can it go 40' unguyed?  How hard it is to push it up?  I've got a similar
30' that came from Radio Shack I think, but I can't get it to 30' unguyed.
But, it was a LOT less cost than this one. 





-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Robert West
Sent: Monday, October 19, 2009 8:54 AM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Gotta Have

Damn, I love this thing already.Good price too, how quick can you put
this up?



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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Mike
Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2009 9:01 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Gotta Have

what:   wonderpole 40' fiberglass "push up" pole
where:  http://www.wonderpole.com/wp640_630.html
why:It is easy to take a telescoping pole to a site survey and 
put a panel up in air for testing.  I don't push mine out to 40' 
often, and not for long, but regularly push it up 26' or so to do a 
test.  Well made, reasonably priced, and made in the good old USA.






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Re: [WISPA] Gotta Have

2009-10-19 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
If you get the EZ connectors you also need the EZ crimper.

It's about $100 last time I bought one.

Again, though.  It's money well spent.  Get a kit Tom, you'll never ever go 
back to the old way.
marlon

- Original Message - 
From: "Tom DeReggi" 
To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2009 4:55 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Gotta Have


> But you're missing the point.
> Yeah, Its definately not worth it, for those that can use the standard 
> CAT5s
> effectively.
> But your math assumes that they can, and not considering the other costs.
> The ROI is NOT on the time saved comparing successful installs, comparing
> both types.
> The ROI is on time saved comparing costs of failed connector installs.
>
> What does it cost you if you crimp an end, and get a flaky crimp, and the
> link not work? How long does it take to figure out which side of the cable
> had the bad crimp?
> A 25 cent RJ-45 becomes 50 cents, if you ahve to cut one off and replace 
> it.
> I can give an example of recently where I had to send a guy back into the
> city (half day's labor) to fix a packet loss problem caused by defective
> CAT5 plug terminations.
> But most of the lost time was in the office troubleshooting the defective
> packloss link trying to find what was wrong.
>
> I can sympathise with eye sight degrating, in my older age :-( .
> The error rate of successful CAT5 terminations go up, if eye sight is 
> going
> down.
>
> The question to ask is are the installers having to high a failure 
> rate
> for their first crimpts? If they are, then it may be a good investment.
> As well, I look at my time as worth $100/hr, and I'd gladly spend the 
> extra
> $100 for connectors if it meant I was more likely to have sucessful 
> crimpts
> the first time.
> I compare... Risking paying 25 cent extra verus risk spending extra $100 
> in
> time figuring out where I made the Crimp mistake.
>
> For the record, I do not use EZ-Rj45 plugs. But I understand the value of
> Using the best RJ-45Plugs, and the ROI is there.  I personally like to use
> the the RJ45 Plugs sold by Shireen.
> Ever since we started using them, terminations have been so much easier 
> and
> successful.
>
> I like the Shireen plugs because they have just the right wire hole
> diameters for the wire to slide in easy, and I can be certain that they'll
> slide into the right slots as I tried to align them to.
> (Its becoming harder for me to tell the wire color once its inside the 
> Jack,
> due to eyes). And I can be certain they'll crimp securely.
>
> I also got tired of the two peice CAT5 jacks, because I always kept 
> loosing
> the second peices, and ended up having to throw away 20% of them that 
> would
> be incomplete set.
>
>
> Tom DeReggi
> RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
> IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
>
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Josh Luthman" 
> To: "WISPA General List" 
> Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2009 5:15 PM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Gotta Have
>
>
>> At 200/mo you'd need at least one more customer per month.   Don't see
>> this happening by speeding up rj45 connectors.
>>
>> On 10/18/09, Travis Johnson  wrote:
>>> These do look great... and I would love to buy them for my installers...
>>> but
>>> $.50 per connector compared to what I pay now would cost me an extra 
>>> $200
>>> per month just in connectors. :(
>>>
>>> Travis
>>> Microserv
>>>
>>> Mike wrote:
>>>>
>>>> They DO sell shielded. Part PLT-100020-050
>>>>   Look further down the list at: www.ezrj45.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> At 11:13 AM 10/18/2009, you wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Yeah, those are awesome.  I wish they had shielded connectors as well.
>>>>>
>>>>> marlon
>>>>>
>>>>> - Original Message -
>>>>> From: "Mike" 
>>>>> To: "WISPA General List" 
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2009 7:01 AM
>>>>> Subject: [WISPA] Gotta Have
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have learned a lot from this list.  I think there is some real
>>>>>> talent lurking here.  We all have discovered certain things which
>>>>>> just make life as a WISP easier.  I think it would be beneficial to
>>>>>> list participants in general if there was a thread which contained a
>>>>>> des

Re: [WISPA] Gotta Have

2009-10-19 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
Travis,

If you'll go through $200 per month in connectors these will save you at least 
$500 in labor. 

It takes less than half the time to make a connection and they are NEVER wrong. 
 These and the Times LMR400 stripper have been some of the best tools I've ever 
purchased.

Those and a 1' long "wire" that slips just inside a cat5 cable so that it can 
easily be pushed through a wall without getting hung up on the insulation etc.

Laters,
marlon

  - Original Message - 
  From: Travis Johnson 
  To: WISPA General List 
  Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2009 2:00 PM
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Gotta Have


  These do look great... and I would love to buy them for my installers... but 
$.50 per connector compared to what I pay now would cost me an extra $200 per 
month just in connectors. :(

  Travis
  Microserv

  Mike wrote: 
They DO sell shielded. Part PLT-100020-050
  Look further down the list at: www.ezrj45.com


At 11:13 AM 10/18/2009, you wrote:
  Yeah, those are awesome.  I wish they had shielded connectors as well.

marlon

- Original Message -
From: "Mike" 
To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2009 7:01 AM
Subject: [WISPA] Gotta Have


I have learned a lot from this list.  I think there is some real
talent lurking here.  We all have discovered certain things which
just make life as a WISP easier.  I think it would be beneficial to
list participants in general if there was a thread which contained a
description and use of something you find invaluable -- hardware,
software etc ... you would like to share with the group.

I'll start:

what: EZRJ-45 connector system
where: www.ezrj45.com
why:  As my eyes get older, and especially in low light situations, I
find it very difficult to get all those individual conductors on a
CAT5 run in the right order while crimping an end.  This is a quite
ingenious system.  The plugs have holes all the way through.  You can
verify the color code easily BEFORE crimping and cutting the
tags.  It takes a special crimp tool which has a pair of blades that
cut the tags as it crimps the connector in place.  Maybe not a time
saver in my case, but definitely a GRIEF saver.  I've not miswired an
Ethernet plug since I started using this system.

Mike





  

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Re: [WISPA] Gotta Have

2009-10-19 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
Well what do you know!??!!??!!  We asked Marsh Cable for those and they said 
there weren't any.

Apryl, please get some of these coming.

marlon

- Original Message - 
From: "Frank Crawford" 
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Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2009 10:04 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Gotta Have


> They do.
> http://www.telephoneparts.com/index.cgi?pcode=PLT-100020-010&placement=1
>
> Marlon K. Schafer wrote:
>> Yeah, those are awesome.  I wish they had shielded connectors as well.
>>
>> marlon
>>
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Mike" 
>> To: "WISPA General List" 
>> Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2009 7:01 AM
>> Subject: [WISPA] Gotta Have
>>
>>
>>
>>> I have learned a lot from this list.  I think there is some real
>>> talent lurking here.  We all have discovered certain things which
>>> just make life as a WISP easier.  I think it would be beneficial to
>>> list participants in general if there was a thread which contained a
>>> description and use of something you find invaluable -- hardware,
>>> software etc ... you would like to share with the group.
>>>
>>> I'll start:
>>>
>>> what: EZRJ-45 connector system
>>> where: www.ezrj45.com
>>> why:  As my eyes get older, and especially in low light situations, I
>>> find it very difficult to get all those individual conductors on a
>>> CAT5 run in the right order while crimping an end.  This is a quite
>>> ingenious system.  The plugs have holes all the way through.  You can
>>> verify the color code easily BEFORE crimping and cutting the
>>> tags.  It takes a special crimp tool which has a pair of blades that
>>> cut the tags as it crimps the connector in place.  Maybe not a time
>>> saver in my case, but definitely a GRIEF saver.  I've not miswired an
>>> Ethernet plug since I started using this system.
>>>
>>> Mike
>>>
>>>
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Re: [WISPA] Gotta Have

2009-10-19 Thread Robert West
Damn, I love this thing already.Good price too, how quick can you put
this up?



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Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2009 9:01 PM
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Subject: [WISPA] Gotta Have

what:   wonderpole 40' fiberglass "push up" pole
where:  http://www.wonderpole.com/wp640_630.html
why:It is easy to take a telescoping pole to a site survey and 
put a panel up in air for testing.  I don't push mine out to 40' 
often, and not for long, but regularly push it up 26' or so to do a 
test.  Well made, reasonably priced, and made in the good old USA.






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Re: [WISPA] Gotta Have

2009-10-18 Thread Mike
I did the same thing.  But, it won't even let you look at the Wiki 
unless you're logged in.  But I think you can check the "always keep 
me logged in" box and be automatically logged in.  At least until you 
delete cookies?  Rick Harnish forwarded my request on to Rick in 
Accounting :-) .  He squared me away.

Mike

At 08:32 PM 10/18/2009, you wrote:
>That is what I expected, but I don't see a forgot link.
>
>Josh Luthman wrote:
> > Click login then forgot password.
> >
> > On 10/18/09, Scott Reed  wrote:
> >
> >> I was going to suggest that.  Wanted to look at the Wiki first, but can
> >> not remember my login.
> >> Where do I go to find/reset login information?
> >>
> >>
> >> Josh Luthman wrote:
> >>
> >>> Use the WISPNet Wiki?
> >>>
> >>> On 10/18/09, Robert West  wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
>  Like a sticky?  Maybe.
> 
> 
> 
>  -Original Message-
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> 
>  I have learned a lot from this list.  I think there is some real
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>  just make life as a WISP easier.  I think it would be beneficial to
>  list participants in general if there was a thread which contained a
>  description and use of something you find invaluable -- hardware,
>  software etc ... you would like to share with the group.
> 
>  I'll start:
> 
>  what: EZRJ-45 connector system
>  where: www.ezrj45.com
>  why:  As my eyes get older, and especially in low light situations, I
>  find it very difficult to get all those individual conductors on a
>  CAT5 run in the right order while crimping an end.  This is a quite
>  ingenious system.  The plugs have holes all the way through.  You can
>  verify the color code easily BEFORE crimping and cutting the
>  tags.  It takes a special crimp tool which has a pair of blades that
>  cut the tags as it crimps the connector in place.  Maybe not a time
>  saver in my case, but definitely a GRIEF saver.  I've not miswired an
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> 
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Re: [WISPA] Gotta Have

2009-10-18 Thread Josh Luthman
Been a long time since I screwed one up.  I don't do too many soo...

On 10/18/09, Scott Reed  wrote:
> That is what I expected, but I don't see a forgot link.
>
> Josh Luthman wrote:
>> Click login then forgot password.
>>
>> On 10/18/09, Scott Reed  wrote:
>>
>>> I was going to suggest that.  Wanted to look at the Wiki first, but can
>>> not remember my login.
>>> Where do I go to find/reset login information?
>>>
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman wrote:
>>>
 Use the WISPNet Wiki?

 On 10/18/09, Robert West  wrote:


> Like a sticky?  Maybe.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Mike
> Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2009 10:02 AM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: [WISPA] Gotta Have
>
> I have learned a lot from this list.  I think there is some real
> talent lurking here.  We all have discovered certain things which
> just make life as a WISP easier.  I think it would be beneficial to
> list participants in general if there was a thread which contained a
> description and use of something you find invaluable -- hardware,
> software etc ... you would like to share with the group.
>
> I'll start:
>
> what: EZRJ-45 connector system
> where: www.ezrj45.com
> why:  As my eyes get older, and especially in low light situations, I
> find it very difficult to get all those individual conductors on a
> CAT5 run in the right order while crimping an end.  This is a quite
> ingenious system.  The plugs have holes all the way through.  You can
> verify the color code easily BEFORE crimping and cutting the
> tags.  It takes a special crimp tool which has a pair of blades that
> cut the tags as it crimps the connector in place.  Maybe not a time
> saver in my case, but definitely a GRIEF saver.  I've not miswired an
> Ethernet plug since I started using this system.
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Re: [WISPA] Gotta Have

2009-10-18 Thread Scott Reed
That is what I expected, but I don't see a forgot link.

Josh Luthman wrote:
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> On 10/18/09, Scott Reed  wrote:
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>> I was going to suggest that.  Wanted to look at the Wiki first, but can
>> not remember my login.
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>>> Use the WISPNet Wiki?
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>>> On 10/18/09, Robert West  wrote:
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 Like a sticky?  Maybe.



 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Mike
 Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2009 10:02 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: [WISPA] Gotta Have

 I have learned a lot from this list.  I think there is some real
 talent lurking here.  We all have discovered certain things which
 just make life as a WISP easier.  I think it would be beneficial to
 list participants in general if there was a thread which contained a
 description and use of something you find invaluable -- hardware,
 software etc ... you would like to share with the group.

 I'll start:

 what: EZRJ-45 connector system
 where: www.ezrj45.com
 why:  As my eyes get older, and especially in low light situations, I
 find it very difficult to get all those individual conductors on a
 CAT5 run in the right order while crimping an end.  This is a quite
 ingenious system.  The plugs have holes all the way through.  You can
 verify the color code easily BEFORE crimping and cutting the
 tags.  It takes a special crimp tool which has a pair of blades that
 cut the tags as it crimps the connector in place.  Maybe not a time
 saver in my case, but definitely a GRIEF saver.  I've not miswired an
 Ethernet plug since I started using this system.

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Re: [WISPA] Gotta Have

2009-10-18 Thread Mike
I gotta agree.  One other nice thing with the EZRJ45 system is 
because the wires stick out the end of the plug as far as you 
want.  You can verify the order, or pull them out and push them back 
in.  THEN, you can grab the excess and pull until the jacket is as 
far up the plug as possible, THEN crimp.  I can't tell you how many 
crimps I've come across where the technician didn't get the jacket 
crimped and a mm of strands shows before the plug.

They also work with either stranded or solid wire so you don't have 
to have both or KNOW the difference between pointed or spade crimp 
points.  I put the inventor of this crimp system in the same league 
as the geek who came up with sticky notes.

Mike

At 07:27 PM 10/18/2009, you wrote:
>I don't care how much they cost.  One crimp, gone.
>
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Re: [WISPA] Gotta Have

2009-10-18 Thread Robert West
I agree.  At 50 cents, the aggravation saved is worth it.  Anything to
lessen the B.S. of life has value, in my opinion.  I have issues too with
the eyesight, I have to look at the things with a magnifying glass sometimes
to make sure the wires are seated all the way.  



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Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2009 8:27 PM
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I don't care how much they cost.  One crimp, gone.

Phil

On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 6:03 PM, 3-dB Networks  wrote:

> I strongly recommend this cable because I think it helps a lot telling if
> you got the right color wire in the right hole.  Sometimes finding that
> stripe on the white can be difficult:  http://tinyurl.com/ygxeywo
>
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>
> >-Original Message-
> >From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> >Behalf Of Tom DeReggi
> >Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2009 5:56 PM
> >To: WISPA General List
> >Subject: Re: [WISPA] Gotta Have
> >
> >But you're missing the point.
> >Yeah, Its definately not worth it, for those that can use the standard
> >CAT5s
> >effectively.
> >But your math assumes that they can, and not considering the other
> >costs.
> >The ROI is NOT on the time saved comparing successful installs,
> >comparing
> >both types.
> >The ROI is on time saved comparing costs of failed connector installs.
> >
> >What does it cost you if you crimp an end, and get a flaky crimp, and
> >the
> >link not work? How long does it take to figure out which side of the
> >cable
> >had the bad crimp?
> >A 25 cent RJ-45 becomes 50 cents, if you ahve to cut one off and replace
> >it.
> >I can give an example of recently where I had to send a guy back into
> >the
> >city (half day's labor) to fix a packet loss problem caused by defective
> >CAT5 plug terminations.
> >But most of the lost time was in the office troubleshooting the
> >defective
> >packloss link trying to find what was wrong.
> >
> >I can sympathise with eye sight degrating, in my older age :-( .
> >The error rate of successful CAT5 terminations go up, if eye sight is
> >going
> >down.
> >
> >The question to ask is are the installers having to high a failure
> >rate
> >for their first crimpts? If they are, then it may be a good investment.
> >As well, I look at my time as worth $100/hr, and I'd gladly spend the
> >extra
> >$100 for connectors if it meant I was more likely to have sucessful
> >crimpts
> >the first time.
> >I compare... Risking paying 25 cent extra verus risk spending extra $100
> >in
> >time figuring out where I made the Crimp mistake.
> >
> >For the record, I do not use EZ-Rj45 plugs. But I understand the value
> >of
> >Using the best RJ-45Plugs, and the ROI is there.  I personally like to
> >use
> >the the RJ45 Plugs sold by Shireen.
> >Ever since we started using them, terminations have been so much easier
> >and
> >successful.
> >
> >I like the Shireen plugs because they have just the right wire hole
> >diameters for the wire to slide in easy, and I can be certain that
> >they'll
> >slide into the right slots as I tried to align them to.
> >(Its becoming harder for me to tell the wire color once its inside the
> >Jack,
> >due to eyes). And I can be certain they'll crimp securely.
> >
> >I also got tired of the two peice CAT5 jacks, because I always kept
> >loosing
> >the second peices, and ended up having to throw away 20% of them that
> >would
> >be incomplete set.
> >
> >
> >Tom DeReggi
> >RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
> >IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
> >
> >
> >- Original Message -
> >From: "Josh Luthman" 
> >To: "WISPA General List" 
> >Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2009 5:15 PM
> >Subject: Re: [WISPA] Gotta Have
> >
> >
> >> At 200/mo you'd need at least one more customer per month.   Don't see
> >> this happening by speeding up rj45 connectors.
> >>
> >> On 10/18/09, Travis Johnson  wrote:
> >>> These do look great... and I would love to buy them for my
> >installers...
> >>> but
> >>> $.50 per connector compared to what I pay now would cost me an extra
> >$200
> >>> per month just in connectors. :(
> >>>
> >>> Travis
> >

Re: [WISPA] Gotta Have

2009-10-18 Thread Phil Curnutt
I don't care how much they cost.  One crimp, gone.

Phil

On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 6:03 PM, 3-dB Networks  wrote:

> I strongly recommend this cable because I think it helps a lot telling if
> you got the right color wire in the right hole.  Sometimes finding that
> stripe on the white can be difficult:  http://tinyurl.com/ygxeywo
>
>
> Daniel White
> 3-dB Networks
> http://www.3dbnetworks.com
>
>
> >-Original Message-
> >From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> >Behalf Of Tom DeReggi
> >Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2009 5:56 PM
> >To: WISPA General List
> >Subject: Re: [WISPA] Gotta Have
> >
> >But you're missing the point.
> >Yeah, Its definately not worth it, for those that can use the standard
> >CAT5s
> >effectively.
> >But your math assumes that they can, and not considering the other
> >costs.
> >The ROI is NOT on the time saved comparing successful installs,
> >comparing
> >both types.
> >The ROI is on time saved comparing costs of failed connector installs.
> >
> >What does it cost you if you crimp an end, and get a flaky crimp, and
> >the
> >link not work? How long does it take to figure out which side of the
> >cable
> >had the bad crimp?
> >A 25 cent RJ-45 becomes 50 cents, if you ahve to cut one off and replace
> >it.
> >I can give an example of recently where I had to send a guy back into
> >the
> >city (half day's labor) to fix a packet loss problem caused by defective
> >CAT5 plug terminations.
> >But most of the lost time was in the office troubleshooting the
> >defective
> >packloss link trying to find what was wrong.
> >
> >I can sympathise with eye sight degrating, in my older age :-( .
> >The error rate of successful CAT5 terminations go up, if eye sight is
> >going
> >down.
> >
> >The question to ask is are the installers having to high a failure
> >rate
> >for their first crimpts? If they are, then it may be a good investment.
> >As well, I look at my time as worth $100/hr, and I'd gladly spend the
> >extra
> >$100 for connectors if it meant I was more likely to have sucessful
> >crimpts
> >the first time.
> >I compare... Risking paying 25 cent extra verus risk spending extra $100
> >in
> >time figuring out where I made the Crimp mistake.
> >
> >For the record, I do not use EZ-Rj45 plugs. But I understand the value
> >of
> >Using the best RJ-45Plugs, and the ROI is there.  I personally like to
> >use
> >the the RJ45 Plugs sold by Shireen.
> >Ever since we started using them, terminations have been so much easier
> >and
> >successful.
> >
> >I like the Shireen plugs because they have just the right wire hole
> >diameters for the wire to slide in easy, and I can be certain that
> >they'll
> >slide into the right slots as I tried to align them to.
> >(Its becoming harder for me to tell the wire color once its inside the
> >Jack,
> >due to eyes). And I can be certain they'll crimp securely.
> >
> >I also got tired of the two peice CAT5 jacks, because I always kept
> >loosing
> >the second peices, and ended up having to throw away 20% of them that
> >would
> >be incomplete set.
> >
> >
> >Tom DeReggi
> >RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
> >IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
> >
> >
> >- Original Message -
> >From: "Josh Luthman" 
> >To: "WISPA General List" 
> >Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2009 5:15 PM
> >Subject: Re: [WISPA] Gotta Have
> >
> >
> >> At 200/mo you'd need at least one more customer per month.   Don't see
> >> this happening by speeding up rj45 connectors.
> >>
> >> On 10/18/09, Travis Johnson  wrote:
> >>> These do look great... and I would love to buy them for my
> >installers...
> >>> but
> >>> $.50 per connector compared to what I pay now would cost me an extra
> >$200
> >>> per month just in connectors. :(
> >>>
> >>> Travis
> >>> Microserv
> >>>
> >>> Mike wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> They DO sell shielded. Part PLT-100020-050
> >>>>   Look further down the list at: www.ezrj45.com
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> At 11:13 AM 10/18/2009, you wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Yeah, those are awesome.  I wish they had shielded connectors as
> >well.
> >>

Re: [WISPA] Gotta Have

2009-10-18 Thread 3-dB Networks
I strongly recommend this cable because I think it helps a lot telling if
you got the right color wire in the right hole.  Sometimes finding that
stripe on the white can be difficult:  http://tinyurl.com/ygxeywo


Daniel White
3-dB Networks
http://www.3dbnetworks.com


>-Original Message-
>From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>Behalf Of Tom DeReggi
>Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2009 5:56 PM
>To: WISPA General List
>Subject: Re: [WISPA] Gotta Have
>
>But you're missing the point.
>Yeah, Its definately not worth it, for those that can use the standard
>CAT5s
>effectively.
>But your math assumes that they can, and not considering the other
>costs.
>The ROI is NOT on the time saved comparing successful installs,
>comparing
>both types.
>The ROI is on time saved comparing costs of failed connector installs.
>
>What does it cost you if you crimp an end, and get a flaky crimp, and
>the
>link not work? How long does it take to figure out which side of the
>cable
>had the bad crimp?
>A 25 cent RJ-45 becomes 50 cents, if you ahve to cut one off and replace
>it.
>I can give an example of recently where I had to send a guy back into
>the
>city (half day's labor) to fix a packet loss problem caused by defective
>CAT5 plug terminations.
>But most of the lost time was in the office troubleshooting the
>defective
>packloss link trying to find what was wrong.
>
>I can sympathise with eye sight degrating, in my older age :-( .
>The error rate of successful CAT5 terminations go up, if eye sight is
>going
>down.
>
>The question to ask is are the installers having to high a failure
>rate
>for their first crimpts? If they are, then it may be a good investment.
>As well, I look at my time as worth $100/hr, and I'd gladly spend the
>extra
>$100 for connectors if it meant I was more likely to have sucessful
>crimpts
>the first time.
>I compare... Risking paying 25 cent extra verus risk spending extra $100
>in
>time figuring out where I made the Crimp mistake.
>
>For the record, I do not use EZ-Rj45 plugs. But I understand the value
>of
>Using the best RJ-45Plugs, and the ROI is there.  I personally like to
>use
>the the RJ45 Plugs sold by Shireen.
>Ever since we started using them, terminations have been so much easier
>and
>successful.
>
>I like the Shireen plugs because they have just the right wire hole
>diameters for the wire to slide in easy, and I can be certain that
>they'll
>slide into the right slots as I tried to align them to.
>(Its becoming harder for me to tell the wire color once its inside the
>Jack,
>due to eyes). And I can be certain they'll crimp securely.
>
>I also got tired of the two peice CAT5 jacks, because I always kept
>loosing
>the second peices, and ended up having to throw away 20% of them that
>would
>be incomplete set.
>
>
>Tom DeReggi
>RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
>IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
>
>
>- Original Message -
>From: "Josh Luthman" 
>To: "WISPA General List" 
>Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2009 5:15 PM
>Subject: Re: [WISPA] Gotta Have
>
>
>> At 200/mo you'd need at least one more customer per month.   Don't see
>> this happening by speeding up rj45 connectors.
>>
>> On 10/18/09, Travis Johnson  wrote:
>>> These do look great... and I would love to buy them for my
>installers...
>>> but
>>> $.50 per connector compared to what I pay now would cost me an extra
>$200
>>> per month just in connectors. :(
>>>
>>> Travis
>>> Microserv
>>>
>>> Mike wrote:
>>>>
>>>> They DO sell shielded. Part PLT-100020-050
>>>>   Look further down the list at: www.ezrj45.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> At 11:13 AM 10/18/2009, you wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Yeah, those are awesome.  I wish they had shielded connectors as
>well.
>>>>>
>>>>> marlon
>>>>>
>>>>> - Original Message -
>>>>> From: "Mike" 
>>>>> To: "WISPA General List" 
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2009 7:01 AM
>>>>> Subject: [WISPA] Gotta Have
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have learned a lot from this list.  I think there is some real
>>>>>> talent lurking here.  We all have discovered certain things which
>>>>>> just make life as a WISP easier.  I think it would be beneficial
>to
>>>>>> list parti

Re: [WISPA] Gotta Have

2009-10-18 Thread Tom DeReggi
But you're missing the point.
Yeah, Its definately not worth it, for those that can use the standard CAT5s 
effectively.
But your math assumes that they can, and not considering the other costs.
The ROI is NOT on the time saved comparing successful installs, comparing 
both types.
The ROI is on time saved comparing costs of failed connector installs.

What does it cost you if you crimp an end, and get a flaky crimp, and the 
link not work? How long does it take to figure out which side of the cable 
had the bad crimp?
A 25 cent RJ-45 becomes 50 cents, if you ahve to cut one off and replace it.
I can give an example of recently where I had to send a guy back into the 
city (half day's labor) to fix a packet loss problem caused by defective 
CAT5 plug terminations.
But most of the lost time was in the office troubleshooting the defective 
packloss link trying to find what was wrong.

I can sympathise with eye sight degrating, in my older age :-( .
The error rate of successful CAT5 terminations go up, if eye sight is going 
down.

The question to ask is are the installers having to high a failure rate 
for their first crimpts? If they are, then it may be a good investment.
As well, I look at my time as worth $100/hr, and I'd gladly spend the extra 
$100 for connectors if it meant I was more likely to have sucessful crimpts 
the first time.
I compare... Risking paying 25 cent extra verus risk spending extra $100 in 
time figuring out where I made the Crimp mistake.

For the record, I do not use EZ-Rj45 plugs. But I understand the value of 
Using the best RJ-45Plugs, and the ROI is there.  I personally like to use 
the the RJ45 Plugs sold by Shireen.
Ever since we started using them, terminations have been so much easier and 
successful.

I like the Shireen plugs because they have just the right wire hole 
diameters for the wire to slide in easy, and I can be certain that they'll 
slide into the right slots as I tried to align them to.
(Its becoming harder for me to tell the wire color once its inside the Jack, 
due to eyes). And I can be certain they'll crimp securely.

I also got tired of the two peice CAT5 jacks, because I always kept loosing 
the second peices, and ended up having to throw away 20% of them that would 
be incomplete set.


Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


- Original Message - 
From: "Josh Luthman" 
To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2009 5:15 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Gotta Have


> At 200/mo you'd need at least one more customer per month.   Don't see
> this happening by speeding up rj45 connectors.
>
> On 10/18/09, Travis Johnson  wrote:
>> These do look great... and I would love to buy them for my installers... 
>> but
>> $.50 per connector compared to what I pay now would cost me an extra $200
>> per month just in connectors. :(
>>
>> Travis
>> Microserv
>>
>> Mike wrote:
>>>
>>> They DO sell shielded. Part PLT-100020-050
>>>   Look further down the list at: www.ezrj45.com
>>>
>>>
>>> At 11:13 AM 10/18/2009, you wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yeah, those are awesome.  I wish they had shielded connectors as well.
>>>>
>>>> marlon
>>>>
>>>> - Original Message -
>>>> From: "Mike" 
>>>> To: "WISPA General List" 
>>>> Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2009 7:01 AM
>>>> Subject: [WISPA] Gotta Have
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I have learned a lot from this list.  I think there is some real
>>>>> talent lurking here.  We all have discovered certain things which
>>>>> just make life as a WISP easier.  I think it would be beneficial to
>>>>> list participants in general if there was a thread which contained a
>>>>> description and use of something you find invaluable -- hardware,
>>>>> software etc ... you would like to share with the group.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'll start:
>>>>>
>>>>> what: EZRJ-45 connector system
>>>>> where: www.ezrj45.com
>>>>> why:  As my eyes get older, and especially in low light situations, I
>>>>> find it very difficult to get all those individual conductors on a
>>>>> CAT5 run in the right order while crimping an end.  This is a quite
>>>>> ingenious system.  The plugs have holes all the way through.  You can
>>>>> verify the color code easily BEFORE crimping and cutting the
>>>>> tags.  It takes a special crimp tool which has a pair of blades that
>>>>> cut the tags as

Re: [WISPA] Gotta Have

2009-10-18 Thread Josh Luthman
At 200/mo you'd need at least one more customer per month.   Don't see
this happening by speeding up rj45 connectors.

On 10/18/09, Travis Johnson  wrote:
> These do look great... and I would love to buy them for my installers... but
> $.50 per connector compared to what I pay now would cost me an extra $200
> per month just in connectors. :(
>
> Travis
> Microserv
>
> Mike wrote:
>>
>> They DO sell shielded. Part PLT-100020-050
>>   Look further down the list at: www.ezrj45.com
>>
>>
>> At 11:13 AM 10/18/2009, you wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Yeah, those are awesome.  I wish they had shielded connectors as well.
>>>
>>> marlon
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Mike" 
>>> To: "WISPA General List" 
>>> Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2009 7:01 AM
>>> Subject: [WISPA] Gotta Have
>>>
>>>
>>>

 I have learned a lot from this list.  I think there is some real
 talent lurking here.  We all have discovered certain things which
 just make life as a WISP easier.  I think it would be beneficial to
 list participants in general if there was a thread which contained a
 description and use of something you find invaluable -- hardware,
 software etc ... you would like to share with the group.

 I'll start:

 what: EZRJ-45 connector system
 where: www.ezrj45.com
 why:  As my eyes get older, and especially in low light situations, I
 find it very difficult to get all those individual conductors on a
 CAT5 run in the right order while crimping an end.  This is a quite
 ingenious system.  The plugs have holes all the way through.  You can
 verify the color code easily BEFORE crimping and cutting the
 tags.  It takes a special crimp tool which has a pair of blades that
 cut the tags as it crimps the connector in place.  Maybe not a time
 saver in my case, but definitely a GRIEF saver.  I've not miswired an
 Ethernet plug since I started using this system.

 Mike






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Re: [WISPA] Gotta Have

2009-10-18 Thread Josh Luthman
At 200/mo you'd need at least one more customer per month.   Don't see
this happening by speeding up rj45 connectors.

On 10/18/09, Travis Johnson  wrote:
> These do look great... and I would love to buy them for my installers... but
> $.50 per connector compared to what I pay now would cost me an extra $200
> per month just in connectors. :(
>
> Travis
> Microserv
>
> Mike wrote:
>>
>> They DO sell shielded. Part PLT-100020-050
>>   Look further down the list at: www.ezrj45.com
>>
>>
>> At 11:13 AM 10/18/2009, you wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Yeah, those are awesome.  I wish they had shielded connectors as well.
>>>
>>> marlon
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Mike" 
>>> To: "WISPA General List" 
>>> Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2009 7:01 AM
>>> Subject: [WISPA] Gotta Have
>>>
>>>
>>>

 I have learned a lot from this list.  I think there is some real
 talent lurking here.  We all have discovered certain things which
 just make life as a WISP easier.  I think it would be beneficial to
 list participants in general if there was a thread which contained a
 description and use of something you find invaluable -- hardware,
 software etc ... you would like to share with the group.

 I'll start:

 what: EZRJ-45 connector system
 where: www.ezrj45.com
 why:  As my eyes get older, and especially in low light situations, I
 find it very difficult to get all those individual conductors on a
 CAT5 run in the right order while crimping an end.  This is a quite
 ingenious system.  The plugs have holes all the way through.  You can
 verify the color code easily BEFORE crimping and cutting the
 tags.  It takes a special crimp tool which has a pair of blades that
 cut the tags as it crimps the connector in place.  Maybe not a time
 saver in my case, but definitely a GRIEF saver.  I've not miswired an
 Ethernet plug since I started using this system.

 Mike






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Re: [WISPA] Gotta Have

2009-10-18 Thread Travis Johnson




These do look great... and I would love to buy them for my
installers... but $.50 per connector compared to what I pay now would
cost me an extra $200 per month just in connectors. :(

Travis
Microserv

Mike wrote:

  They DO sell shielded. Part PLT-100020-050
  Look further down the list at: www.ezrj45.com


At 11:13 AM 10/18/2009, you wrote:
  
  
Yeah, those are awesome.  I wish they had shielded connectors as well.

marlon

- Original Message -
From: "Mike" 
To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2009 7:01 AM
Subject: [WISPA] Gotta Have




  I have learned a lot from this list.  I think there is some real
talent lurking here.  We all have discovered certain things which
just make life as a WISP easier.  I think it would be beneficial to
list participants in general if there was a thread which contained a
description and use of something you find invaluable -- hardware,
software etc ... you would like to share with the group.

I'll start:

what: EZRJ-45 connector system
where: www.ezrj45.com
why:  As my eyes get older, and especially in low light situations, I
find it very difficult to get all those individual conductors on a
CAT5 run in the right order while crimping an end.  This is a quite
ingenious system.  The plugs have holes all the way through.  You can
verify the color code easily BEFORE crimping and cutting the
tags.  It takes a special crimp tool which has a pair of blades that
cut the tags as it crimps the connector in place.  Maybe not a time
saver in my case, but definitely a GRIEF saver.  I've not miswired an
Ethernet plug since I started using this system.

Mike





  




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Re: [WISPA] Gotta Have

2009-10-18 Thread Mike
They DO sell shielded. Part PLT-100020-050
  Look further down the list at: www.ezrj45.com


At 11:13 AM 10/18/2009, you wrote:
>Yeah, those are awesome.  I wish they had shielded connectors as well.
>
>marlon
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>Subject: [WISPA] Gotta Have
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> > I'll start:
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> > what: EZRJ-45 connector system
> > where: www.ezrj45.com
> > why:  As my eyes get older, and especially in low light situations, I
> > find it very difficult to get all those individual conductors on a
> > CAT5 run in the right order while crimping an end.  This is a quite
> > ingenious system.  The plugs have holes all the way through.  You can
> > verify the color code easily BEFORE crimping and cutting the
> > tags.  It takes a special crimp tool which has a pair of blades that
> > cut the tags as it crimps the connector in place.  Maybe not a time
> > saver in my case, but definitely a GRIEF saver.  I've not miswired an
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Re: [WISPA] Gotta Have

2009-10-18 Thread Josh Luthman
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On 10/18/09, Scott Reed  wrote:
> I was going to suggest that.  Wanted to look at the Wiki first, but can
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>> On 10/18/09, Robert West  wrote:
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>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>>> Behalf Of Mike
>>> Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2009 10:02 AM
>>> To: WISPA General List
>>> Subject: [WISPA] Gotta Have
>>>
>>> I have learned a lot from this list.  I think there is some real
>>> talent lurking here.  We all have discovered certain things which
>>> just make life as a WISP easier.  I think it would be beneficial to
>>> list participants in general if there was a thread which contained a
>>> description and use of something you find invaluable -- hardware,
>>> software etc ... you would like to share with the group.
>>>
>>> I'll start:
>>>
>>> what: EZRJ-45 connector system
>>> where: www.ezrj45.com
>>> why:  As my eyes get older, and especially in low light situations, I
>>> find it very difficult to get all those individual conductors on a
>>> CAT5 run in the right order while crimping an end.  This is a quite
>>> ingenious system.  The plugs have holes all the way through.  You can
>>> verify the color code easily BEFORE crimping and cutting the
>>> tags.  It takes a special crimp tool which has a pair of blades that
>>> cut the tags as it crimps the connector in place.  Maybe not a time
>>> saver in my case, but definitely a GRIEF saver.  I've not miswired an
>>> Ethernet plug since I started using this system.
>>>
>>> Mike
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Re: [WISPA] Gotta Have

2009-10-18 Thread Scott Reed
I was going to suggest that.  Wanted to look at the Wiki first, but can 
not remember my login.
Where do I go to find/reset login information?


Josh Luthman wrote:
> Use the WISPNet Wiki?
>
> On 10/18/09, Robert West  wrote:
>   
>> Like a sticky?  Maybe.
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>> -Original Message-
>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>> Behalf Of Mike
>> Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2009 10:02 AM
>> To: WISPA General List
>> Subject: [WISPA] Gotta Have
>>
>> I have learned a lot from this list.  I think there is some real
>> talent lurking here.  We all have discovered certain things which
>> just make life as a WISP easier.  I think it would be beneficial to
>> list participants in general if there was a thread which contained a
>> description and use of something you find invaluable -- hardware,
>> software etc ... you would like to share with the group.
>>
>> I'll start:
>>
>> what: EZRJ-45 connector system
>> where: www.ezrj45.com
>> why:  As my eyes get older, and especially in low light situations, I
>> find it very difficult to get all those individual conductors on a
>> CAT5 run in the right order while crimping an end.  This is a quite
>> ingenious system.  The plugs have holes all the way through.  You can
>> verify the color code easily BEFORE crimping and cutting the
>> tags.  It takes a special crimp tool which has a pair of blades that
>> cut the tags as it crimps the connector in place.  Maybe not a time
>> saver in my case, but definitely a GRIEF saver.  I've not miswired an
>> Ethernet plug since I started using this system.
>>
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Re: [WISPA] Gotta Have

2009-10-18 Thread Josh Luthman
Use the WISPNet Wiki?

On 10/18/09, Robert West  wrote:
> Like a sticky?  Maybe.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Mike
> Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2009 10:02 AM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: [WISPA] Gotta Have
>
> I have learned a lot from this list.  I think there is some real
> talent lurking here.  We all have discovered certain things which
> just make life as a WISP easier.  I think it would be beneficial to
> list participants in general if there was a thread which contained a
> description and use of something you find invaluable -- hardware,
> software etc ... you would like to share with the group.
>
> I'll start:
>
> what: EZRJ-45 connector system
> where: www.ezrj45.com
> why:  As my eyes get older, and especially in low light situations, I
> find it very difficult to get all those individual conductors on a
> CAT5 run in the right order while crimping an end.  This is a quite
> ingenious system.  The plugs have holes all the way through.  You can
> verify the color code easily BEFORE crimping and cutting the
> tags.  It takes a special crimp tool which has a pair of blades that
> cut the tags as it crimps the connector in place.  Maybe not a time
> saver in my case, but definitely a GRIEF saver.  I've not miswired an
> Ethernet plug since I started using this system.
>
> Mike
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Re: [WISPA] Gotta Have

2009-10-18 Thread Robert West
Like a sticky?  Maybe.



-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Mike
Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2009 10:02 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Gotta Have

I have learned a lot from this list.  I think there is some real 
talent lurking here.  We all have discovered certain things which 
just make life as a WISP easier.  I think it would be beneficial to 
list participants in general if there was a thread which contained a 
description and use of something you find invaluable -- hardware, 
software etc ... you would like to share with the group.

I'll start:

what: EZRJ-45 connector system
where: www.ezrj45.com
why:  As my eyes get older, and especially in low light situations, I 
find it very difficult to get all those individual conductors on a 
CAT5 run in the right order while crimping an end.  This is a quite 
ingenious system.  The plugs have holes all the way through.  You can 
verify the color code easily BEFORE crimping and cutting the 
tags.  It takes a special crimp tool which has a pair of blades that 
cut the tags as it crimps the connector in place.  Maybe not a time 
saver in my case, but definitely a GRIEF saver.  I've not miswired an 
Ethernet plug since I started using this system.

Mike






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Re: [WISPA] Gotta Have

2009-10-18 Thread Frank Crawford
They do. 
http://www.telephoneparts.com/index.cgi?pcode=PLT-100020-010&placement=1

Marlon K. Schafer wrote:
> Yeah, those are awesome.  I wish they had shielded connectors as well.
>
> marlon
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Mike" 
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> Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2009 7:01 AM
> Subject: [WISPA] Gotta Have
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>   
>> I have learned a lot from this list.  I think there is some real
>> talent lurking here.  We all have discovered certain things which
>> just make life as a WISP easier.  I think it would be beneficial to
>> list participants in general if there was a thread which contained a
>> description and use of something you find invaluable -- hardware,
>> software etc ... you would like to share with the group.
>>
>> I'll start:
>>
>> what: EZRJ-45 connector system
>> where: www.ezrj45.com
>> why:  As my eyes get older, and especially in low light situations, I
>> find it very difficult to get all those individual conductors on a
>> CAT5 run in the right order while crimping an end.  This is a quite
>> ingenious system.  The plugs have holes all the way through.  You can
>> verify the color code easily BEFORE crimping and cutting the
>> tags.  It takes a special crimp tool which has a pair of blades that
>> cut the tags as it crimps the connector in place.  Maybe not a time
>> saver in my case, but definitely a GRIEF saver.  I've not miswired an
>> Ethernet plug since I started using this system.
>>
>> Mike
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Re: [WISPA] Gotta Have

2009-10-18 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
Yeah, those are awesome.  I wish they had shielded connectors as well.

marlon

- Original Message - 
From: "Mike" 
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Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2009 7:01 AM
Subject: [WISPA] Gotta Have


>I have learned a lot from this list.  I think there is some real
> talent lurking here.  We all have discovered certain things which
> just make life as a WISP easier.  I think it would be beneficial to
> list participants in general if there was a thread which contained a
> description and use of something you find invaluable -- hardware,
> software etc ... you would like to share with the group.
>
> I'll start:
>
> what: EZRJ-45 connector system
> where: www.ezrj45.com
> why:  As my eyes get older, and especially in low light situations, I
> find it very difficult to get all those individual conductors on a
> CAT5 run in the right order while crimping an end.  This is a quite
> ingenious system.  The plugs have holes all the way through.  You can
> verify the color code easily BEFORE crimping and cutting the
> tags.  It takes a special crimp tool which has a pair of blades that
> cut the tags as it crimps the connector in place.  Maybe not a time
> saver in my case, but definitely a GRIEF saver.  I've not miswired an
> Ethernet plug since I started using this system.
>
> Mike
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