Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Question..
Reboot? Other than that I'm not sure. You should be able to have multiple connections though -- unless someone got in that shouldn't have been. In which case change password, reboot is probably the fastest way out. Matt Hoppes Director of Information Technology Indigo Wireless +1 (570) 723-7312 On 1/23/12 11:43 AM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote: Hello, Anyone know on how to disconnect a remote winbox user or ssh user via command line on a Mikrotik ? Thanks. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Question..
If you have one of those sessions that hang out there even though the PC was melted 6 months ago...I haven't seen it cause any problems. Butch suggests the same. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 11:49 AM, Matt Hoppes mhop...@indigowireless.com wrote: Reboot? Other than that I'm not sure. You should be able to have multiple connections though -- unless someone got in that shouldn't have been. In which case change password, reboot is probably the fastest way out. Matt Hoppes Director of Information Technology Indigo Wireless +1 (570) 723-7312 On 1/23/12 11:43 AM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote: Hello, Anyone know on how to disconnect a remote winbox user or ssh user via command line on a Mikrotik ? Thanks. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Question..
Thanks.. I was hoping that there would be a better way ... something like clear connection .type command.. ---rather an obscure but realistic situation--- ROS 5.x , Winbox connection can cause as much as 50% increase in CPU utilization. This gets to be of concern on core routers, running BGP full peering, multiple peers... so if multiple folks are looking at the box, sometimes it becomes necessary to 'kick' a winbox user off other wise... you simply wait and watch -- While rebooting does do the trick, but it is not a viable option for production router !!! There has to be a way to do this :) Regards. Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, Fl 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Helpdesk: 305 663 5518 option 2 Email: supp...@snappydsl.net On 1/23/2012 11:50 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: If you have one of those sessions that hang out there even though the PC was melted 6 months ago...I haven't seen it cause any problems. Butch suggests the same. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 11:49 AM, Matt Hoppes mhop...@indigowireless.com wrote: Reboot? Other than that I'm not sure. You should be able to have multiple connections though -- unless someone got in that shouldn't have been. In which case change password, reboot is probably the fastest way out. Matt Hoppes Director of Information Technology Indigo Wireless +1 (570) 723-7312 On 1/23/12 11:43 AM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote: Hello, Anyone know on how to disconnect a remote winbox user or ssh user via command line on a Mikrotik ? Thanks. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Question..
I think you can go into connections in the firewall and delete the appropriate connection for the winbox user. That should drop them. On 01/23/2012 10:01 AM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote: Thanks.. I was hoping that there would be a better way ... something like clear connection .type command.. ---rather an obscure but realistic situation--- ROS 5.x , Winbox connection can cause as much as 50% increase in CPU utilization. This gets to be of concern on core routers, running BGP full peering, multiple peers... so if multiple folks are looking at the box, sometimes it becomes necessary to 'kick' a winbox user off other wise... you simply wait and watch -- While rebooting does do the trick, but it is not a viable option for production router !!! There has to be a way to do this :) Regards. Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, Fl 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Helpdesk: 305 663 5518 option 2 Email: supp...@snappydsl.net On 1/23/2012 11:50 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: If you have one of those sessions that hang out there even though the PC was melted 6 months ago...I haven't seen it cause any problems. Butch suggests the same. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 11:49 AM, Matt Hoppes mhop...@indigowireless.com wrote: Reboot? Other than that I'm not sure. You should be able to have multiple connections though -- unless someone got in that shouldn't have been. In which case change password, reboot is probably the fastest way out. Matt Hoppes Director of Information Technology Indigo Wireless +1 (570) 723-7312 On 1/23/12 11:43 AM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote: Hello, Anyone know on how to disconnect a remote winbox user or ssh user via command line on a Mikrotik ? Thanks. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Question..
Yeah I know it's not a good solution for a production router, that's why I said it depends on your situation... this is also why we don't use WinBox :) Matt Hoppes Director of Information Technology Indigo Wireless +1 (570) 723-7312 On 1/23/12 1:01 PM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote: Thanks.. I was hoping that there would be a better way ... something like clear connection .type command.. ---rather an obscure but realistic situation--- ROS 5.x , Winbox connection can cause as much as 50% increase in CPU utilization. This gets to be of concern on core routers, running BGP full peering, multiple peers... so if multiple folks are looking at the box, sometimes it becomes necessary to 'kick' a winbox user off other wise... you simply wait and watch -- While rebooting does do the trick, but it is not a viable option for production router !!! There has to be a way to do this :) Regards. Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, Fl 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Helpdesk: 305 663 5518 option 2 Email: supp...@snappydsl.net On 1/23/2012 11:50 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: If you have one of those sessions that hang out there even though the PC was melted 6 months ago...I haven't seen it cause any problems. Butch suggests the same. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 11:49 AM, Matt Hoppes mhop...@indigowireless.com wrote: Reboot? Other than that I'm not sure. You should be able to have multiple connections though -- unless someone got in that shouldn't have been. In which case change password, reboot is probably the fastest way out. Matt Hoppes Director of Information Technology Indigo Wireless +1 (570) 723-7312 On 1/23/12 11:43 AM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote: Hello, Anyone know on how to disconnect a remote winbox user or ssh user via command line on a Mikrotik ? Thanks. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Question..
I don't know if this works for winbox sessions, but for ssh/telnet... [admin@gw] /system script job /system script job [admin@gw] /system script job print # SCRIPT OWNER STARTED 0 admin jan/23/2012 19:45:24 1 admin jan/23/2012 19:45:30 [admin@gw] /system script job remove 0 interrupted Connection to gw closed. I use the same thing to detect multiple instances automated upgrade scripts. The script value will match the name from /system script if you call it with /system script run or :execute. -Kristian On 01/23/2012 08:43 AM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote: Hello, Anyone know on how to disconnect a remote winbox user or ssh user via command line on a Mikrotik ? Thanks. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Question: Subinterface?
Ok simplification of what I need to do. I need to get more than 1 DHCP address on the same physical ethernet port I can assign more than 1 static address, so why not more than 1 dynamic address? On 11/02/2010 01:15 PM, Matt Jenkins wrote: How do I create a subinterface on an ethernet port on a rb750? Bridged CPE - Tik Port1 - Port2 Cust 1 - Port3 Cust 2 I need to create two sub interfaces on Port 1. One for each customer to receive an IP via DHCP. Then I need to NAT each of those sub interfaces to each of cooresponding customer interfaces. Thanks, - Matt WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Question: Subinterface?
You can only have 1 dhcp server port per interface. You'll need to do vlans. On Nov 15, 2010 6:12 PM, Matt Jenkins m...@smarterbroadband.net wrote: Ok simplification of what I need to do. I need to get more than 1 DHCP address on the same physical ethernet port I can assign more than 1 static address, so why not more than 1 dynamic address? On 11/02/2010 01:15 PM, Matt Jenkins wrote: How do I create a subinterface on an ethernet port on a rb750? Bridged CPE - Tik Port1 - Port2 Cust 1 - Port3 Cust 2 I need to create two sub interfaces on Port 1. One for each customer to receive an IP via DHCP. Then I need to NAT each of those sub interfaces to each of cooresponding customer interfaces. Thanks, - Matt WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Question: Subinterface?
In this instance, I have no control upstream beyond the mikrotik On 11/15/2010 03:16 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: You can only have 1 dhcp server port per interface. You'll need to do vlans. On Nov 15, 2010 6:12 PM, "Matt Jenkins" m...@smarterbroadband.net wrote: Ok simplification of what I need to do. I need to get more than 1 DHCP address on the same physical ethernet port I can assign more than 1 static address, so why not more than 1 dynamic address? On 11/02/2010 01:15 PM, Matt Jenkins wrote: How do I create a subinterface on an ethernet port on a rb750? Bridged CPE - Tik Port1 - Port2 Cust 1 - Port3 Cust 2 I need to create two sub interfaces on Port 1. One for each customer to receive an IP via DHCP. Then I need to NAT each of those sub interfaces to each of cooresponding customer interfaces. Thanks, - Matt WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Question: Subinterface?
A bit more detail…Matt also needs both DHCP clients to operate from the same source MAC address. I sent him a solution that uses two MAC addresses on the same physical port and does not involve VLANs, although its obviously of no use because it does not meet his requirements. What MikroTik needs is the ability to specify DHCP Client ID's when creating DHCP client instances. Most servers support using client ID's to identify hosts so this would be an acceptable way to issue two IPs to a single MAC as the client ID would be the identifier between the two. -- Blake Covarrubias On Nov 15, 2010, at 4:23 PM, Matt Jenkins wrote: In this instance, I have no control upstream beyond the mikrotik On 11/15/2010 03:16 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: You can only have 1 dhcp server port per interface. You'll need to do vlans. On Nov 15, 2010 6:12 PM, Matt Jenkins m...@smarterbroadband.net wrote: Ok simplification of what I need to do. I need to get more than 1 DHCP address on the same physical ethernet port I can assign more than 1 static address, so why not more than 1 dynamic address? On 11/02/2010 01:15 PM, Matt Jenkins wrote: How do I create a subinterface on an ethernet port on a rb750? Bridged CPE - Tik Port1 - Port2 Cust 1 - Port3 Cust 2 I need to create two sub interfaces on Port 1. One for each customer to receive an IP via DHCP. Then I need to NAT each of those sub interfaces to each of cooresponding customer interfaces. Thanks, - Matt WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Question: Subinterface?
You can have multiple pools to dish to people. I do this in my shop, my computers that are being worked on get an ip out of the default pool, but I set static computers to be dished an ip out of a different pool. For what it's worth... Chris -Original Message- From: Blake Covarrubias Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 5:33 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Question: Subinterface? A bit more detail…Matt also needs both DHCP clients to operate from the same source MAC address. I sent him a solution that uses two MAC addresses on the same physical port and does not involve VLANs, although its obviously of no use because it does not meet his requirements. What MikroTik needs is the ability to specify DHCP Client ID's when creating DHCP client instances. Most servers support using client ID's to identify hosts so this would be an acceptable way to issue two IPs to a single MAC as the client ID would be the identifier between the two. -- Blake Covarrubias On Nov 15, 2010, at 4:23 PM, Matt Jenkins wrote: In this instance, I have no control upstream beyond the mikrotik On 11/15/2010 03:16 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: You can only have 1 dhcp server port per interface. You'll need to do vlans. On Nov 15, 2010 6:12 PM, Matt Jenkins m...@smarterbroadband.net wrote: Ok simplification of what I need to do. I need to get more than 1 DHCP address on the same physical ethernet port I can assign more than 1 static address, so why not more than 1 dynamic address? On 11/02/2010 01:15 PM, Matt Jenkins wrote: How do I create a subinterface on an ethernet port on a rb750? Bridged CPE - Tik Port1 - Port2 Cust 1 - Port3 Cust 2 I need to create two sub interfaces on Port 1. One for each customer to receive an IP via DHCP. Then I need to NAT each of those sub interfaces to each of cooresponding customer interfaces. Thanks, - Matt WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Question: Subinterface?
On Mon, 2010-11-15 at 15:23 -0800, Matt Jenkins wrote: In this instance, I have no control upstream beyond the mikrotik You cannot do multiple dhcp-clients, either (which is what you'd need). -- * Butch Evans * Professional Network Consultation* * http://www.butchevans.com/* Network Engineering * * http://store.wispgear.net/* Wired or Wireless Networks * * http://blog.butchevans.com/ * ImageStream, Mikrotik and MORE! * WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Question: Subinterface?
In terms of requests? Can you add ether1 to multiple bridges, put one dhcpc on each bridge? On Nov 15, 2010 7:00 PM, Butch Evans but...@butchevans.com wrote: On Mon, 2010-11-15 at 15:23 -0800, Matt Jenkins wrote: In this instance, I have no control upstream beyond the mikrotik You cannot do multiple dhcp-clients, either (which is what you'd need). -- * Butch Evans * Professional Network Consultation* * http://www.butchevans.com/ * Network Engineering * * http://store.wispgear.net/ * Wired or Wireless Networks * * http://blog.butchevans.com/ * ImageStream, Mikrotik and MORE! * WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Question: Subinterface?
I think Chupaka has posted on the MikroTik forms about having luck doing by turning RADIUS on for DHCP requests, and then setting up a freeradius server to handle the assignments. You can set up freeradius to match just about anything. Not the easiest thing in the world, but... -Kristian On Mon, 2010-11-15 at 16:33 -0700, Blake Covarrubias wrote: A bit more detail…Matt also needs both DHCP clients to operate from the same source MAC address. I sent him a solution that uses two MAC addresses on the same physical port and does not involve VLANs, although its obviously of no use because it does not meet his requirements. What MikroTik needs is the ability to specify DHCP Client ID's when creating DHCP client instances. Most servers support using client ID's to identify hosts so this would be an acceptable way to issue two IPs to a single MAC as the client ID would be the identifier between the two. -- Blake Covarrubias On Nov 15, 2010, at 4:23 PM, Matt Jenkins wrote: In this instance, I have no control upstream beyond the mikrotik On 11/15/2010 03:16 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: You can only have 1 dhcp server port per interface. You'll need to do vlans. On Nov 15, 2010 6:12 PM, Matt Jenkins m...@smarterbroadband.net wrote: Ok simplification of what I need to do. I need to get more than 1 DHCP address on the same physical ethernet port I can assign more than 1 static address, so why not more than 1 dynamic address? On 11/02/2010 01:15 PM, Matt Jenkins wrote: How do I create a subinterface on an ethernet port on a rb750? Bridged CPE - Tik Port1 - Port2 Cust 1 - Port3 Cust 2 I need to create two sub interfaces on Port 1. One for each customer to receive an IP via DHCP. Then I need to NAT each of those sub interfaces to each of cooresponding customer interfaces. Thanks, - Matt WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Question: Subinterface?
You cannot add a single interface to multiple bridge's. My failed solution I provided to Matt did involve adding ether1 to a bridge, then setting auto-mac=no and admin-mac on the bridge to something other than ether1. -- Blake Covarrubias On Nov 15, 2010, at 5:13 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: In terms of requests? Can you add ether1 to multiple bridges, put one dhcpc on each bridge? On Nov 15, 2010 7:00 PM, Butch Evans but...@butchevans.com wrote: On Mon, 2010-11-15 at 15:23 -0800, Matt Jenkins wrote: In this instance, I have no control upstream beyond the mikrotik You cannot do multiple dhcp-clients, either (which is what you'd need). -- * Butch Evans * Professional Network Consultation* * http://www.butchevans.com/ * Network Engineering * * http://store.wispgear.net/ * Wired or Wireless Networks * * http://blog.butchevans.com/ * ImageStream, Mikrotik and MORE! * WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Question: Subinterface?
I think you guys are overlooking his statement that he does not control the DHCP server, and was looking to add multiple DHCP *clients* on a single interface using the same MAC in the DHCP requests. A few of us have stated multiple times is not currently possible with MikroTik. The solution is really to support DHCP client ID's, but as I stated MikroTik does not currently have this functionality. -- Blake Covarrubias On Nov 15, 2010, at 5:17 PM, Kristian Hoffmann wrote: I think Chupaka has posted on the MikroTik forms about having luck doing by turning RADIUS on for DHCP requests, and then setting up a freeradius server to handle the assignments. You can set up freeradius to match just about anything. Not the easiest thing in the world, but... -Kristian On Mon, 2010-11-15 at 16:33 -0700, Blake Covarrubias wrote: A bit more detail…Matt also needs both DHCP clients to operate from the same source MAC address. I sent him a solution that uses two MAC addresses on the same physical port and does not involve VLANs, although its obviously of no use because it does not meet his requirements. What MikroTik needs is the ability to specify DHCP Client ID's when creating DHCP client instances. Most servers support using client ID's to identify hosts so this would be an acceptable way to issue two IPs to a single MAC as the client ID would be the identifier between the two. -- Blake Covarrubias On Nov 15, 2010, at 4:23 PM, Matt Jenkins wrote: In this instance, I have no control upstream beyond the mikrotik On 11/15/2010 03:16 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: You can only have 1 dhcp server port per interface. You'll need to do vlans. On Nov 15, 2010 6:12 PM, Matt Jenkins m...@smarterbroadband.net wrote: Ok simplification of what I need to do. I need to get more than 1 DHCP address on the same physical ethernet port I can assign more than 1 static address, so why not more than 1 dynamic address? On 11/02/2010 01:15 PM, Matt Jenkins wrote: How do I create a subinterface on an ethernet port on a rb750? Bridged CPE - Tik Port1 - Port2 Cust 1 - Port3 Cust 2 I need to create two sub interfaces on Port 1. One for each customer to receive an IP via DHCP. Then I need to NAT each of those sub interfaces to each of cooresponding customer interfaces. Thanks, - Matt WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/
Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Question: Subinterface?
On Mon, 2010-11-15 at 19:13 -0500, Josh Luthman wrote: In terms of requests? Can you add ether1 to multiple bridges, put one dhcpc on each bridge? Unless this has changed, an interface cannot be on more than one bridge. -- * Butch Evans * Professional Network Consultation* * http://www.butchevans.com/* Network Engineering * * http://store.wispgear.net/* Wired or Wireless Networks * * http://blog.butchevans.com/ * ImageStream, Mikrotik and MORE! * WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Question: Subinterface?
Not sure, was a guess. On Nov 15, 2010 7:42 PM, Butch Evans but...@butchevans.com wrote: On Mon, 2010-11-15 at 19:13 -0500, Josh Luthman wrote: In terms of requests? Can you add ether1 to multiple bridges, put one dhcpc on each bridge? Unless this has changed, an interface cannot be on more than one bridge. -- * Butch Evans * Professional Network Consultation* * http://www.butchevans.com/ * Network Engineering * * http://store.wispgear.net/ * Wired or Wireless Networks * * http://blog.butchevans.com/ * ImageStream, Mikrotik and MORE! * WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Question: Subinterface?
If you mean like eth0.1 and eth0.2 then you need to use a vlan switch, else once its on the wire, there is no way to know what comes from who. It would be best to place another multi port router inline to give you physical ports, or use vlans. On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 1:15 PM, Matt Jenkins m...@smarterbroadband.net wrote: How do I create a subinterface on an ethernet port on a rb750? Bridged CPE - Tik Port1 - Port2 Cust 1 - Port3 Cust 2 I need to create two sub interfaces on Port 1. One for each customer to receive an IP via DHCP. Then I need to NAT each of those sub interfaces to each of cooresponding customer interfaces. Thanks, - Matt WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik question
Personally I very rarely use the latest and greatest of anything. Be it software, computers, cars etc. Let someone else work out all of the bugs :-). marlon - Original Message - From: Greg Ihnen os10ru...@gmail.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 9:23 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik question What about the adage about staying one major version behind whatever is current? Does that only apply to Linux kernels? Greg On Jul 1, 2010, at 11:38 AM, Scott Reed wrote: I have been systems and networking since about 1980. Some of it for some Fortune 100 companies. The advice is, if it ain't broke, don't fix it. You do, however, need to know what is in the change logs, because you do not always know it is broken. Keeping things all at 1 or 2 versions simplifies life and usually makes them work better together. David E. Smith wrote: On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 20:04, Butch Evans but...@butchevans.com wrote: And whether they bother to power them up and test them prior to shipping (which I do..every one) Here's a sorta-related question (which probably should be on the Mikrotik-Users list, but whatevs) - what's the recommendation for versions and upgrades? If you're not doing anything really fancy, is it worth upgrading your radios all the time? Normally, when a radio is about to leave the office and get installed somewhere, I'll put the then-current version of RouterOS on it (right now, that'd be 4.whatever) - then, unless there's a compelling reason to upgrade, the system tends to be left alone. Heck, I've got a few boards with 2.8 on them, and they're chugging along just fine. David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Scott Reed Sr. Systems Engineer GAB Midwest 1-800-363-1544 x2241 1-260-827-2241 Cell: 260-273-7239 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik question
That's why I'm still using Abacus 2.0. Took me 6 years to upgrade to the 2.0 but the 1.x has half the beads so it all worked out for me. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2010 3:54 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik question Personally I very rarely use the latest and greatest of anything. Be it software, computers, cars etc. Let someone else work out all of the bugs :-). marlon - Original Message - From: Greg Ihnen os10ru...@gmail.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 9:23 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik question What about the adage about staying one major version behind whatever is current? Does that only apply to Linux kernels? Greg On Jul 1, 2010, at 11:38 AM, Scott Reed wrote: I have been systems and networking since about 1980. Some of it for some Fortune 100 companies. The advice is, if it ain't broke, don't fix it. You do, however, need to know what is in the change logs, because you do not always know it is broken. Keeping things all at 1 or 2 versions simplifies life and usually makes them work better together. David E. Smith wrote: On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 20:04, Butch Evans but...@butchevans.com wrote: And whether they bother to power them up and test them prior to shipping (which I do..every one) Here's a sorta-related question (which probably should be on the Mikrotik-Users list, but whatevs) - what's the recommendation for versions and upgrades? If you're not doing anything really fancy, is it worth upgrading your radios all the time? Normally, when a radio is about to leave the office and get installed somewhere, I'll put the then-current version of RouterOS on it (right now, that'd be 4.whatever) - then, unless there's a compelling reason to upgrade, the system tends to be left alone. Heck, I've got a few boards with 2.8 on them, and they're chugging along just fine. David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Scott Reed Sr. Systems Engineer GAB Midwest 1-800-363-1544 x2241 1-260-827-2241 Cell: 260-273-7239 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik question
Best response ever. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 5:05 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: That's why I'm still using Abacus 2.0. Took me 6 years to upgrade to the 2.0 but the 1.x has half the beads so it all worked out for me. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2010 3:54 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik question Personally I very rarely use the latest and greatest of anything. Be it software, computers, cars etc. Let someone else work out all of the bugs :-). marlon - Original Message - From: Greg Ihnen os10ru...@gmail.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 9:23 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik question What about the adage about staying one major version behind whatever is current? Does that only apply to Linux kernels? Greg On Jul 1, 2010, at 11:38 AM, Scott Reed wrote: I have been systems and networking since about 1980. Some of it for some Fortune 100 companies. The advice is, if it ain't broke, don't fix it. You do, however, need to know what is in the change logs, because you do not always know it is broken. Keeping things all at 1 or 2 versions simplifies life and usually makes them work better together. David E. Smith wrote: On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 20:04, Butch Evans but...@butchevans.com wrote: And whether they bother to power them up and test them prior to shipping (which I do..every one) Here's a sorta-related question (which probably should be on the Mikrotik-Users list, but whatevs) - what's the recommendation for versions and upgrades? If you're not doing anything really fancy, is it worth upgrading your radios all the time? Normally, when a radio is about to leave the office and get installed somewhere, I'll put the then-current version of RouterOS on it (right now, that'd be 4.whatever) - then, unless there's a compelling reason to upgrade, the system tends to be left alone. Heck, I've got a few boards with 2.8 on them, and they're chugging along just fine. David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Scott Reed Sr. Systems Engineer GAB Midwest 1-800-363-1544 x2241 1-260-827-2241 Cell: 260-273-7239 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik question
Honestly, how could I let that one go? Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2010 5:08 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik question Best response ever. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts. --- Winston Churchill On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 5:05 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: That's why I'm still using Abacus 2.0. Took me 6 years to upgrade to the 2.0 but the 1.x has half the beads so it all worked out for me. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2010 3:54 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik question Personally I very rarely use the latest and greatest of anything. Be it software, computers, cars etc. Let someone else work out all of the bugs :-). marlon - Original Message - From: Greg Ihnen os10ru...@gmail.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 9:23 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik question What about the adage about staying one major version behind whatever is current? Does that only apply to Linux kernels? Greg On Jul 1, 2010, at 11:38 AM, Scott Reed wrote: I have been systems and networking since about 1980. Some of it for some Fortune 100 companies. The advice is, if it ain't broke, don't fix it. You do, however, need to know what is in the change logs, because you do not always know it is broken. Keeping things all at 1 or 2 versions simplifies life and usually makes them work better together. David E. Smith wrote: On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 20:04, Butch Evans but...@butchevans.com wrote: And whether they bother to power them up and test them prior to shipping (which I do..every one) Here's a sorta-related question (which probably should be on the Mikrotik-Users list, but whatevs) - what's the recommendation for versions and upgrades? If you're not doing anything really fancy, is it worth upgrading your radios all the time? Normally, when a radio is about to leave the office and get installed somewhere, I'll put the then-current version of RouterOS on it (right now, that'd be 4.whatever) - then, unless there's a compelling reason to upgrade, the system tends to be left alone. Heck, I've got a few boards with 2.8 on them, and they're chugging along just fine. David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Scott Reed Sr. Systems Engineer GAB Midwest 1-800-363-1544 x2241 1-260-827-2241 Cell: 260-273-7239 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org
Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik question
LOL! Now you know the next upgrade will be Abacus386 :) On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 5:05 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: That's why I'm still using Abacus 2.0. Took me 6 years to upgrade to the 2.0 but the 1.x has half the beads so it all worked out for me. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2010 3:54 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik question Personally I very rarely use the latest and greatest of anything. Be it software, computers, cars etc. Let someone else work out all of the bugs :-). marlon - Original Message - From: Greg Ihnen os10ru...@gmail.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 9:23 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik question What about the adage about staying one major version behind whatever is current? Does that only apply to Linux kernels? Greg On Jul 1, 2010, at 11:38 AM, Scott Reed wrote: I have been systems and networking since about 1980. Some of it for some Fortune 100 companies. The advice is, if it ain't broke, don't fix it. You do, however, need to know what is in the change logs, because you do not always know it is broken. Keeping things all at 1 or 2 versions simplifies life and usually makes them work better together. David E. Smith wrote: On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 20:04, Butch Evans but...@butchevans.com wrote: And whether they bother to power them up and test them prior to shipping (which I do..every one) Here's a sorta-related question (which probably should be on the Mikrotik-Users list, but whatevs) - what's the recommendation for versions and upgrades? If you're not doing anything really fancy, is it worth upgrading your radios all the time? Normally, when a radio is about to leave the office and get installed somewhere, I'll put the then-current version of RouterOS on it (right now, that'd be 4.whatever) - then, unless there's a compelling reason to upgrade, the system tends to be left alone. Heck, I've got a few boards with 2.8 on them, and they're chugging along just fine. David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Scott Reed Sr. Systems Engineer GAB Midwest 1-800-363-1544 x2241 1-260-827-2241 Cell: 260-273-7239 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik question
NEW and IMPROVED!! From AcmE AbaCo. AbacusProMultiCore!! and for those New Math Users we have !sucabAPro. Coming soon, MultiUser Long 'Word' Support! On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 7:03 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: LOL! Now you know the next upgrade will be Abacus386 :) On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 5:05 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: That's why I'm still using Abacus 2.0. Took me 6 years to upgrade to the 2.0 but the 1.x has half the beads so it all worked out for me. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2010 3:54 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik question Personally I very rarely use the latest and greatest of anything. Be it software, computers, cars etc. Let someone else work out all of the bugs :-). marlon - Original Message - From: Greg Ihnen os10ru...@gmail.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 9:23 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik question What about the adage about staying one major version behind whatever is current? Does that only apply to Linux kernels? Greg On Jul 1, 2010, at 11:38 AM, Scott Reed wrote: I have been systems and networking since about 1980. Some of it for some Fortune 100 companies. The advice is, if it ain't broke, don't fix it. You do, however, need to know what is in the change logs, because you do not always know it is broken. Keeping things all at 1 or 2 versions simplifies life and usually makes them work better together. David E. Smith wrote: On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 20:04, Butch Evans but...@butchevans.com wrote: And whether they bother to power them up and test them prior to shipping (which I do..every one) Here's a sorta-related question (which probably should be on the Mikrotik-Users list, but whatevs) - what's the recommendation for versions and upgrades? If you're not doing anything really fancy, is it worth upgrading your radios all the time? Normally, when a radio is about to leave the office and get installed somewhere, I'll put the then-current version of RouterOS on it (right now, that'd be 4.whatever) - then, unless there's a compelling reason to upgrade, the system tends to be left alone. Heck, I've got a few boards with 2.8 on them, and they're chugging along just fine. David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Scott Reed Sr. Systems Engineer GAB Midwest 1-800-363-1544 x2241 1-260-827-2241 Cell: 260-273-7239 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik question
It's AbacusTitanium replacing those boring inefficient strings with solid inflexible thread of steel. Balls of gold and a guide designed by Microsoft with all new words there is a bend and hidden curve in this steel maze, still performing the same function but indecipherable. Oh and it's faster with an Intel pusher of balls although the resistance on the steel is the increased pressure of the OS which translates the calculations into a new harder to read format. For $35 a call Microsoft will help you figure out that you could have just pushed the older version to it's logical conclusion. Wait until Apple comes out with the GUI version, linux driven that would even confuse RedHat. Forbes On 7/6/2010 9:15 PM, Jeromie Reeves wrote: NEW and IMPROVED!! From AcmE AbaCo. AbacusProMultiCore!! and for those New Math Users we have !sucabAPro. Coming soon, MultiUser Long 'Word' Support! On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 7:03 PM, RickGrgunder...@gmail.com wrote: LOL! Now you know the next upgrade will be Abacus386 :) On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 5:05 PM, Robert Westrobert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: That's why I'm still using Abacus 2.0. Took me 6 years to upgrade to the 2.0 but the 1.x has half the beads so it all worked out for me. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2010 3:54 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik question Personally I very rarely use the latest and greatest of anything. Be it software, computers, cars etc. Let someone else work out all of the bugs :-). marlon - Original Message - From: Greg Ihnenos10ru...@gmail.com To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 9:23 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik question What about the adage about staying one major version behind whatever is current? Does that only apply to Linux kernels? Greg On Jul 1, 2010, at 11:38 AM, Scott Reed wrote: I have been systems and networking since about 1980. Some of it for some Fortune 100 companies. The advice is, if it ain't broke, don't fix it. You do, however, need to know what is in the change logs, because you do not always know it is broken. Keeping things all at 1 or 2 versions simplifies life and usually makes them work better together. David E. Smith wrote: On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 20:04, Butch Evansbut...@butchevans.com wrote: And whether they bother to power them up and test them prior to shipping (which I do..every one) Here's a sorta-related question (which probably should be on the Mikrotik-Users list, but whatevs) - what's the recommendation for versions and upgrades? If you're not doing anything really fancy, is it worth upgrading your radios all the time? Normally, when a radio is about to leave the office and get installed somewhere, I'll put the then-current version of RouterOS on it (right now, that'd be 4.whatever) - then, unless there's a compelling reason to upgrade, the system tends to be left alone. Heck, I've got a few boards with 2.8 on them, and they're chugging along just fine. David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Scott Reed Sr. Systems Engineer GAB Midwest 1-800-363-1544 x2241 1-260-827-2241 Cell: 260-273-7239 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA
Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik question
With the double Teflon coated string? All about the speed, man! -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jeromie Reeves Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 12:15 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik question NEW and IMPROVED!! From AcmE AbaCo. AbacusProMultiCore!! and for those New Math Users we have !sucabAPro. Coming soon, MultiUser Long 'Word' Support! On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 7:03 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: LOL! Now you know the next upgrade will be Abacus386 :) On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 5:05 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: That's why I'm still using Abacus 2.0. Took me 6 years to upgrade to the 2.0 but the 1.x has half the beads so it all worked out for me. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2010 3:54 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik question Personally I very rarely use the latest and greatest of anything. Be it software, computers, cars etc. Let someone else work out all of the bugs :-). marlon - Original Message - From: Greg Ihnen os10ru...@gmail.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 9:23 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik question What about the adage about staying one major version behind whatever is current? Does that only apply to Linux kernels? Greg On Jul 1, 2010, at 11:38 AM, Scott Reed wrote: I have been systems and networking since about 1980. Some of it for some Fortune 100 companies. The advice is, if it ain't broke, don't fix it. You do, however, need to know what is in the change logs, because you do not always know it is broken. Keeping things all at 1 or 2 versions simplifies life and usually makes them work better together. David E. Smith wrote: On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 20:04, Butch Evans but...@butchevans.com wrote: And whether they bother to power them up and test them prior to shipping (which I do..every one) Here's a sorta-related question (which probably should be on the Mikrotik-Users list, but whatevs) - what's the recommendation for versions and upgrades? If you're not doing anything really fancy, is it worth upgrading your radios all the time? Normally, when a radio is about to leave the office and get installed somewhere, I'll put the then-current version of RouterOS on it (right now, that'd be 4.whatever) - then, unless there's a compelling reason to upgrade, the system tends to be left alone. Heck, I've got a few boards with 2.8 on them, and they're chugging along just fine. David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Scott Reed Sr. Systems Engineer GAB Midwest 1-800-363-1544 x2241 1-260-827-2241 Cell: 260-273-7239 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http
Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik question
This is why I'm still with 2.0 Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Forbes Mercy Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 12:32 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik question It's AbacusTitanium replacing those boring inefficient strings with solid inflexible thread of steel. Balls of gold and a guide designed by Microsoft with all new words there is a bend and hidden curve in this steel maze, still performing the same function but indecipherable. Oh and it's faster with an Intel pusher of balls although the resistance on the steel is the increased pressure of the OS which translates the calculations into a new harder to read format. For $35 a call Microsoft will help you figure out that you could have just pushed the older version to it's logical conclusion. Wait until Apple comes out with the GUI version, linux driven that would even confuse RedHat. Forbes On 7/6/2010 9:15 PM, Jeromie Reeves wrote: NEW and IMPROVED!! From AcmE AbaCo. AbacusProMultiCore!! and for those New Math Users we have !sucabAPro. Coming soon, MultiUser Long 'Word' Support! On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 7:03 PM, RickGrgunder...@gmail.com wrote: LOL! Now you know the next upgrade will be Abacus386 :) On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 5:05 PM, Robert Westrobert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: That's why I'm still using Abacus 2.0. Took me 6 years to upgrade to the 2.0 but the 1.x has half the beads so it all worked out for me. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2010 3:54 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik question Personally I very rarely use the latest and greatest of anything. Be it software, computers, cars etc. Let someone else work out all of the bugs :-). marlon - Original Message - From: Greg Ihnenos10ru...@gmail.com To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 9:23 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik question What about the adage about staying one major version behind whatever is current? Does that only apply to Linux kernels? Greg On Jul 1, 2010, at 11:38 AM, Scott Reed wrote: I have been systems and networking since about 1980. Some of it for some Fortune 100 companies. The advice is, if it ain't broke, don't fix it. You do, however, need to know what is in the change logs, because you do not always know it is broken. Keeping things all at 1 or 2 versions simplifies life and usually makes them work better together. David E. Smith wrote: On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 20:04, Butch Evansbut...@butchevans.com wrote: And whether they bother to power them up and test them prior to shipping (which I do..every one) Here's a sorta-related question (which probably should be on the Mikrotik-Users list, but whatevs) - what's the recommendation for versions and upgrades? If you're not doing anything really fancy, is it worth upgrading your radios all the time? Normally, when a radio is about to leave the office and get installed somewhere, I'll put the then-current version of RouterOS on it (right now, that'd be 4.whatever) - then, unless there's a compelling reason to upgrade, the system tends to be left alone. Heck, I've got a few boards with 2.8 on them, and they're chugging along just fine. David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Scott Reed Sr. Systems Engineer GAB Midwest 1-800-363-1544 x2241 1-260-827-2241 Cell: 260-273-7239 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http
Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik question
On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 20:04, Butch Evans but...@butchevans.com wrote: And whether they bother to power them up and test them prior to shipping (which I do..every one) Here's a sorta-related question (which probably should be on the Mikrotik-Users list, but whatevs) - what's the recommendation for versions and upgrades? If you're not doing anything really fancy, is it worth upgrading your radios all the time? Normally, when a radio is about to leave the office and get installed somewhere, I'll put the then-current version of RouterOS on it (right now, that'd be 4.whatever) - then, unless there's a compelling reason to upgrade, the system tends to be left alone. Heck, I've got a few boards with 2.8 on them, and they're chugging along just fine. David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik question
Don't forget that the 750 uses ether1 as a wan and protects it as such (turns off cdp, etc). Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 10:54 AM, David E. Smith d...@mvn.net wrote: On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 20:04, Butch Evans but...@butchevans.com wrote: And whether they bother to power them up and test them prior to shipping (which I do..every one) Here's a sorta-related question (which probably should be on the Mikrotik-Users list, but whatevs) - what's the recommendation for versions and upgrades? If you're not doing anything really fancy, is it worth upgrading your radios all the time? Normally, when a radio is about to leave the office and get installed somewhere, I'll put the then-current version of RouterOS on it (right now, that'd be 4.whatever) - then, unless there's a compelling reason to upgrade, the system tends to be left alone. Heck, I've got a few boards with 2.8 on them, and they're chugging along just fine. David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik question
I have been systems and networking since about 1980. Some of it for some Fortune 100 companies. The advice is, if it ain't broke, don't fix it. You do, however, need to know what is in the change logs, because you do not always know it is broken. Keeping things all at 1 or 2 versions simplifies life and usually makes them work better together. David E. Smith wrote: On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 20:04, Butch Evans but...@butchevans.com wrote: And whether they bother to power them up and test them prior to shipping (which I do..every one) Here's a sorta-related question (which probably should be on the Mikrotik-Users list, but whatevs) - what's the recommendation for versions and upgrades? If you're not doing anything really fancy, is it worth upgrading your radios all the time? Normally, when a radio is about to leave the office and get installed somewhere, I'll put the then-current version of RouterOS on it (right now, that'd be 4.whatever) - then, unless there's a compelling reason to upgrade, the system tends to be left alone. Heck, I've got a few boards with 2.8 on them, and they're chugging along just fine. David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Scott Reed Sr. Systems Engineer GAB Midwest 1-800-363-1544 x2241 1-260-827-2241 Cell: 260-273-7239 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik question
What about the adage about staying one major version behind whatever is current? Does that only apply to Linux kernels? Greg On Jul 1, 2010, at 11:38 AM, Scott Reed wrote: I have been systems and networking since about 1980. Some of it for some Fortune 100 companies. The advice is, if it ain't broke, don't fix it. You do, however, need to know what is in the change logs, because you do not always know it is broken. Keeping things all at 1 or 2 versions simplifies life and usually makes them work better together. David E. Smith wrote: On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 20:04, Butch Evans but...@butchevans.com wrote: And whether they bother to power them up and test them prior to shipping (which I do..every one) Here's a sorta-related question (which probably should be on the Mikrotik-Users list, but whatevs) - what's the recommendation for versions and upgrades? If you're not doing anything really fancy, is it worth upgrading your radios all the time? Normally, when a radio is about to leave the office and get installed somewhere, I'll put the then-current version of RouterOS on it (right now, that'd be 4.whatever) - then, unless there's a compelling reason to upgrade, the system tends to be left alone. Heck, I've got a few boards with 2.8 on them, and they're chugging along just fine. David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Scott Reed Sr. Systems Engineer GAB Midwest 1-800-363-1544 x2241 1-260-827-2241 Cell: 260-273-7239 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik question
The line between major and minor versions is pretty blurred on mikrotik. Imagine if you waited until 4.0 to upgrade to 3.x. You would have been waiting a long time. -- Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net http://www.mtin.net/blog Wisp Consulting Tower Climbing Network Support From: Greg Ihnen os10ru...@gmail.com Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2010 11:53:11 -0430 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik question What about the adage about staying one major version behind whatever is current? Does that only apply to Linux kernels? Greg On Jul 1, 2010, at 11:38 AM, Scott Reed wrote: I have been systems and networking since about 1980. Some of it for some Fortune 100 companies. The advice is, if it ain't broke, don't fix it. You do, however, need to know what is in the change logs, because you do not always know it is broken. Keeping things all at 1 or 2 versions simplifies life and usually makes them work better together. David E. Smith wrote: On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 20:04, Butch Evans but...@butchevans.com wrote: And whether they bother to power them up and test them prior to shipping (which I do..every one) Here's a sorta-related question (which probably should be on the Mikrotik-Users list, but whatevs) - what's the recommendation for versions and upgrades? If you're not doing anything really fancy, is it worth upgrading your radios all the time? Normally, when a radio is about to leave the office and get installed somewhere, I'll put the then-current version of RouterOS on it (right now, that'd be 4.whatever) - then, unless there's a compelling reason to upgrade, the system tends to be left alone. Heck, I've got a few boards with 2.8 on them, and they're chugging along just fine. David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Scott Reed Sr. Systems Engineer GAB Midwest 1-800-363-1544 x2241 1-260-827-2241 Cell: 260-273-7239 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik question
If only we were so lucky... Nick Olsen Network Operations (321) 205-1100 x106 From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 12:24 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik question I tend to keep the MT boards at whatever the stable version is and then leave them alone once installed unless we have some issue. I have at least 6 433 boards out in the field that I haven't touched the OS or config for 2 years or more. Heck, those are out of sight, out of mind and give me not one bit of trouble. I wish everything else was like that. :) Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of David E. Smith Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 10:55 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik question On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 20:04, Butch Evans but...@butchevans.com wrote: And whether they bother to power them up and test them prior to shipping (which I do..every one) Here's a sorta-related question (which probably should be on the Mikrotik-Users list, but whatevs) - what's the recommendation for versions and upgrades? If you're not doing anything really fancy, is it worth upgrading your radios all the time? Normally, when a radio is about to leave the office and get installed somewhere, I'll put the then-current version of RouterOS on it (right now, that'd be 4.whatever) - then, unless there's a compelling reason to upgrade, the system tends to be left alone. Heck, I've got a few boards with 2.8 on them, and they're chugging along just fine. David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik question
On Thu, 2010-07-01 at 09:54 -0500, David E. Smith wrote: what's the recommendation for versions and upgrades? If you are using wireless: 4.10 for NEW deployments, ESPECIALLY if you are using nstreme. For existing deployments, if you are doing ptmp and NO nstreme, then any version that is working will be fine (I saw a 2.9.41 on one customer's network this week). Upgrading will not offer you much benefit (if any at all) for an 802.11 AP. For existing deployments WITH nstreme in ptp, there is no need to upgrade (just keep the endpoints the same version). There is some new functionality that MAY (not often, but sometimes) improve throughput. For ptmp nstreme, upgrade to the latest version if you are running anything before about 3.27. There is some real benefit in this upgrade. It is not absolutely necessary to upgrade all the cpe on this network, but it would be a good practice to do so. If the router is wired only: Rarely is there a need to upgrade unless something is broken, not working or there is a new functionality that you need. Some examples of when it is prudent to upgrade: * You are running ospf and you install a NEWER ROS version somewhere and begin to see problems with ospf (this is common) * You want to do some fancy firewalling and you are running 2.9.x, that only supports sorta fancy * You want to run my QOS and your ROS is older than 3.10 (this is probably the most important reason, IMO :-) ) * You have some odd or unexplainable problem that requires you to contact Mikrotik support. You'll have to upgrade to get them to answer your question in many cases. Be VERY careful upgrading Mikrotik on an X86 system when you go to the next major version. (2.9.x -- v3, v3 -- v4, etc.). There is some hardware that will run 2.9.x and NOT load v3 (same with v3 and v4 and the new v5). If you're not doing anything really fancy, is it worth upgrading your radios all the time? In general, no. Normally, when a radio is about to leave the office and get installed somewhere, I'll put the then-current version of RouterOS on it (right now, that'd be 4.whatever) - then, unless there's a compelling reason to upgrade, the system tends to be left alone. Heck, I've got a few boards with 2.8 on them, and they're chugging along just fine. Good man! I have a DOM with 2.7 on it here if anyone needs a REALLY OLD ROS version. ;-) -- * Butch Evans * Professional Network Consultation* * http://www.butchevans.com/* Network Engineering * * http://store.wispgear.net/* Wired or Wireless Networks * * http://blog.butchevans.com/ * ImageStream, Mikrotik and MORE! * WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik question
On Thu, 2010-07-01 at 12:08 -0400, Scott Reed wrote: You do, however, need to know what is in the change logs, because you do not always know it is broken. This is my second biggest complaint about Mikrotik. Their changelogs really SUCK! The first biggest complaint is not fit for a public list. -- * Butch Evans * Professional Network Consultation* * http://www.butchevans.com/* Network Engineering * * http://store.wispgear.net/* Wired or Wireless Networks * * http://blog.butchevans.com/ * ImageStream, Mikrotik and MORE! * WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik question
Quick question for you guys... When your upgrading from old version to a new version: IE. I've got an old x86 2.9 which I'm going to replace with a RB1100 on 4.10 (I'm with Rob in that if it isn't broke, I'm not touching it.) Do you usually export the config and paste in the new router? Or can I do a backup and restore with that big of a version difference? Sincerely, Eric Tykwinski TrueNet, Inc. P: 610-429-8300 F: 610-429-3222 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik question
Really? Honestly, there have been times when I would open up a box at an AP and see the 433 board and say to myself, Man, I forgot that thing was in here! For me they have been solid as a rock. But I've been going all UBNT for the most part the past year because I needed more chaos in my life. LOL Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Nick Olsen Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 1:09 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik question If only we were so lucky... Nick Olsen Network Operations (321) 205-1100 x106 From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 12:24 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik question I tend to keep the MT boards at whatever the stable version is and then leave them alone once installed unless we have some issue. I have at least 6 433 boards out in the field that I haven't touched the OS or config for 2 years or more. Heck, those are out of sight, out of mind and give me not one bit of trouble. I wish everything else was like that. :) Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of David E. Smith Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 10:55 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik question On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 20:04, Butch Evans but...@butchevans.com wrote: And whether they bother to power them up and test them prior to shipping (which I do..every one) Here's a sorta-related question (which probably should be on the Mikrotik-Users list, but whatevs) - what's the recommendation for versions and upgrades? If you're not doing anything really fancy, is it worth upgrading your radios all the time? Normally, when a radio is about to leave the office and get installed somewhere, I'll put the then-current version of RouterOS on it (right now, that'd be 4.whatever) - then, unless there's a compelling reason to upgrade, the system tends to be left alone. Heck, I've got a few boards with 2.8 on them, and they're chugging along just fine. David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik question
On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 13:20, Eric Tykwinski eric-l...@truenet.com wrote: Quick question for you guys... When your upgrading from old version to a new version: IE. I've got an old x86 2.9 which I'm going to replace with a RB1100 on 4.10 (I'm with Rob in that if it isn't broke, I'm not touching it.) Do you usually export the config and paste in the new router? Or can I do a backup and restore with that big of a version difference? I've never had good luck with backup/restore - if you change hardware there are just too many things that can go wrong. I usually just copy the whole config (/export file=whatever), then paste in a few lines at a time. David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik question
Backup/restore only works same versions, same hardware. Export can be made to work across versions, but the parameter names do occasionally change. Quite annoying. Also, if you do not strip out MAC addresses, the import will set the MAC on your interfaces to be what is in the config. Not usually what I want. David E. Smith wrote: On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 13:20, Eric Tykwinski eric-l...@truenet.com wrote: Quick question for you guys... When your upgrading from old version to a new version: IE. I've got an old x86 2.9 which I'm going to replace with a RB1100 on 4.10 (I'm with Rob in that if it isn't broke, I'm not touching it.) Do you usually export the config and paste in the new router? Or can I do a backup and restore with that big of a version difference? I've never had good luck with backup/restore - if you change hardware there are just too many things that can go wrong. I usually just copy the whole config (/export file=whatever), then paste in a few lines at a time. David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Scott Reed Sr. Systems Engineer GAB Midwest 1-800-363-1544 x2241 1-260-827-2241 Cell: 260-273-7239 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik question
As well as scripts. Never trust a script from one version to another, especially in the 5.x. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Scott Reed Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 2:36 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik question Backup/restore only works same versions, same hardware. Export can be made to work across versions, but the parameter names do occasionally change. Quite annoying. Also, if you do not strip out MAC addresses, the import will set the MAC on your interfaces to be what is in the config. Not usually what I want. David E. Smith wrote: On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 13:20, Eric Tykwinski eric-l...@truenet.com wrote: Quick question for you guys... When your upgrading from old version to a new version: IE. I've got an old x86 2.9 which I'm going to replace with a RB1100 on 4.10 (I'm with Rob in that if it isn't broke, I'm not touching it.) Do you usually export the config and paste in the new router? Or can I do a backup and restore with that big of a version difference? I've never had good luck with backup/restore - if you change hardware there are just too many things that can go wrong. I usually just copy the whole config (/export file=whatever), then paste in a few lines at a time. David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Scott Reed Sr. Systems Engineer GAB Midwest 1-800-363-1544 x2241 1-260-827-2241 Cell: 260-273-7239 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik question
On Thu, 2010-07-01 at 14:20 -0400, Eric Tykwinski wrote: Do you usually export the config and paste in the new router? Or can I do a backup and restore with that big of a version difference? It will need to be done via export/paste. Just do small sections at a time, though, because SOME of the syntax has changed and may not be accepted as is. For what it's worth, I've done 3 upgrades THIS WEEK from 2.9 series to 4.10. -- * Butch Evans * Professional Network Consultation* * http://www.butchevans.com/* Network Engineering * * http://store.wispgear.net/* Wired or Wireless Networks * * http://blog.butchevans.com/ * ImageStream, Mikrotik and MORE! * WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik question
On 7/1/2010 2:00 PM, Butch Evans wrote: On Thu, 2010-07-01 at 12:08 -0400, Scott Reed wrote: You do, however, need to know what is in the change logs, because you do not always know it is broken. This is my second biggest complaint about Mikrotik. Their changelogs really SUCK! The first biggest complaint is not fit for a public list. Agreed. I've beat them up to add more formal x.y.z type versioning and date/timestamps/ SO far it looks like only a date stamp. Not the way real software engineering is done. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.830 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2962 - Release Date: 06/25/10 02:35:00 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik question
I won't knowingly go above 2.9.51 on my RB1xx boards. I finally got some 4.x boards out there now because that's what they came with. If the 4.x line is finally stable, maybe I'll raise my bar to that. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 7/1/2010 12:58 PM, Butch Evans wrote: On Thu, 2010-07-01 at 09:54 -0500, David E. Smith wrote: what's the recommendation for versions and upgrades? If you are using wireless: 4.10 for NEW deployments, ESPECIALLY if you are using nstreme. For existing deployments, if you are doing ptmp and NO nstreme, then any version that is working will be fine (I saw a 2.9.41 on one customer's network this week). Upgrading will not offer you much benefit (if any at all) for an 802.11 AP. For existing deployments WITH nstreme in ptp, there is no need to upgrade (just keep the endpoints the same version). There is some new functionality that MAY (not often, but sometimes) improve throughput. For ptmp nstreme, upgrade to the latest version if you are running anything before about 3.27. There is some real benefit in this upgrade. It is not absolutely necessary to upgrade all the cpe on this network, but it would be a good practice to do so. If the router is wired only: Rarely is there a need to upgrade unless something is broken, not working or there is a new functionality that you need. Some examples of when it is prudent to upgrade: * You are running ospf and you install a NEWER ROS version somewhere and begin to see problems with ospf (this is common) * You want to do some fancy firewalling and you are running 2.9.x, that only supports sorta fancy * You want to run my QOS and your ROS is older than 3.10 (this is probably the most important reason, IMO :-) ) * You have some odd or unexplainable problem that requires you to contact Mikrotik support. You'll have to upgrade to get them to answer your question in many cases. Be VERY careful upgrading Mikrotik on an X86 system when you go to the next major version. (2.9.x -- v3, v3 -- v4, etc.). There is some hardware that will run 2.9.x and NOT load v3 (same with v3 and v4 and the new v5). If you're not doing anything really fancy, is it worth upgrading your radios all the time? In general, no. Normally, when a radio is about to leave the office and get installed somewhere, I'll put the then-current version of RouterOS on it (right now, that'd be 4.whatever) - then, unless there's a compelling reason to upgrade, the system tends to be left alone. Heck, I've got a few boards with 2.8 on them, and they're chugging along just fine. Good man! I have a DOM with 2.7 on it here if anyone needs a REALLY OLD ROS version. ;-) WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik question
4.x has been good to me. Comes with the newer boards... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 4:39 PM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote: I won't knowingly go above 2.9.51 on my RB1xx boards. I finally got some 4.x boards out there now because that's what they came with. If the 4.x line is finally stable, maybe I'll raise my bar to that. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 7/1/2010 12:58 PM, Butch Evans wrote: On Thu, 2010-07-01 at 09:54 -0500, David E. Smith wrote: what's the recommendation for versions and upgrades? If you are using wireless: 4.10 for NEW deployments, ESPECIALLY if you are using nstreme. For existing deployments, if you are doing ptmp and NO nstreme, then any version that is working will be fine (I saw a 2.9.41 on one customer's network this week). Upgrading will not offer you much benefit (if any at all) for an 802.11 AP. For existing deployments WITH nstreme in ptp, there is no need to upgrade (just keep the endpoints the same version). There is some new functionality that MAY (not often, but sometimes) improve throughput. For ptmp nstreme, upgrade to the latest version if you are running anything before about 3.27. There is some real benefit in this upgrade. It is not absolutely necessary to upgrade all the cpe on this network, but it would be a good practice to do so. If the router is wired only: Rarely is there a need to upgrade unless something is broken, not working or there is a new functionality that you need. Some examples of when it is prudent to upgrade: * You are running ospf and you install a NEWER ROS version somewhere and begin to see problems with ospf (this is common) * You want to do some fancy firewalling and you are running 2.9.x, that only supports sorta fancy * You want to run my QOS and your ROS is older than 3.10 (this is probably the most important reason, IMO :-) ) * You have some odd or unexplainable problem that requires you to contact Mikrotik support. You'll have to upgrade to get them to answer your question in many cases. Be VERY careful upgrading Mikrotik on an X86 system when you go to the next major version. (2.9.x -- v3, v3 -- v4, etc.). There is some hardware that will run 2.9.x and NOT load v3 (same with v3 and v4 and the new v5). If you're not doing anything really fancy, is it worth upgrading your radios all the time? In general, no. Normally, when a radio is about to leave the office and get installed somewhere, I'll put the then-current version of RouterOS on it (right now, that'd be 4.whatever) - then, unless there's a compelling reason to upgrade, the system tends to be left alone. Heck, I've got a few boards with 2.8 on them, and they're chugging along just fine. Good man! I have a DOM with 2.7 on it here if anyone needs a REALLY OLD ROS version. ;-) WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik question
They used to have x.y.z, but they abandoned that for some reason. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 7/1/2010 1:52 PM, Leon D. Zetekoff wrote: On 7/1/2010 2:00 PM, Butch Evans wrote: On Thu, 2010-07-01 at 12:08 -0400, Scott Reed wrote: You do, however, need to know what is in the change logs, because you do not always know it is broken. This is my second biggest complaint about Mikrotik. Their changelogs really SUCK! The first biggest complaint is not fit for a public list. Agreed. I've beat them up to add more formal x.y.z type versioning and date/timestamps/ SO far it looks like only a date stamp. Not the way real software engineering is done. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.830 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2962 - Release Date: 06/25/10 02:35:00 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik question
On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 14:02, Forbes Mercy forbes.me...@wabroadband.comwrote: Dammit I hit send before changing the subject line Oh and its v4.5 not 4. Thanks for the help. On 6/30/2010 11:56 AM, Forbes Mercy wrote: We put a new Mikrotik 411 in service and it has v4 on it. We can't log into it with the web interface or winbox. Is this a new feature? Sounds like something's broke (or misconfigured) - I've not seen that problem, and we've probably deployed a couple dozen Routerboards just in the last month or two. David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik question
I had the same problem with a rb450g. Have not figured it out yet. David Blood -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of David E. Smith Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2010 1:07 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik question On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 14:02, Forbes Mercy forbes.me...@wabroadband.comwrote: Dammit I hit send before changing the subject line Oh and its v4.5 not 4. Thanks for the help. On 6/30/2010 11:56 AM, Forbes Mercy wrote: We put a new Mikrotik 411 in service and it has v4 on it. We can't log into it with the web interface or winbox. Is this a new feature? Sounds like something's broke (or misconfigured) - I've not seen that problem, and we've probably deployed a couple dozen Routerboards just in the last month or two. David Smith MVN.net --- - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- - WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik question
I had one about 6 months ago doing the same thing. I ended up formatting it via the serial terminal and then upgraded the OS and all was perfect. Still going strong as a matter of fact. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Forbes Mercy Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2010 3:02 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Mikrotik question Dammit I hit send before changing the subject line Oh and its v4.5 not 4. Thanks for the help. On 6/30/2010 11:56 AM, Forbes Mercy wrote: We put a new Mikrotik 411 in service and it has v4 on it. We can't log into it with the web interface or winbox. Is this a new feature? Forbes WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik question
I have seen some erroneous initial configurations. I can Winbox into a router via the MAC Address (layer 2) and then look at the Firewall filters. There is a drop rule that supposed to be for invalid connections, but is missing the invalid connection setting. So it drops all connections. Disable that rule and you can get into the router. Change that rule to invalid connections and it is dropping what it is supposed to do. Something you can also do is a system reset from the first connection to clear all of the bad firewall rules Mike On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 2:40 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote: I had one about 6 months ago doing the same thing. I ended up formatting it via the serial terminal and then upgraded the OS and all was perfect. Still going strong as a matter of fact. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Forbes Mercy Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2010 3:02 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Mikrotik question Dammit I hit send before changing the subject line Oh and its v4.5 not 4. Thanks for the help. On 6/30/2010 11:56 AM, Forbes Mercy wrote: We put a new Mikrotik 411 in service and it has v4 on it. We can't log into it with the web interface or winbox. Is this a new feature? Forbes WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik question
Most everything I get now has 4.5. Works just like the 3.x stuff did. If it has a serial port, see what Hyperterminal shows during boot. I have had a couple of 411R come in DOA. Forbes Mercy wrote: Dammit I hit send before changing the subject line Oh and its v4.5 not 4. Thanks for the help. On 6/30/2010 11:56 AM, Forbes Mercy wrote: We put a new Mikrotik 411 in service and it has v4 on it. We can't log into it with the web interface or winbox. Is this a new feature? Forbes WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Scott Reed Sr. Systems Engineer GAB Midwest 1-800-363-1544 x2241 1-260-827-2241 Cell: 260-273-7239 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik question
I thought they are calling 4.1 the stable release? Greg On Jun 30, 2010, at 7:53 PM, Scott Reed wrote: Most everything I get now has 4.5. Works just like the 3.x stuff did. If it has a serial port, see what Hyperterminal shows during boot. I have had a couple of 411R come in DOA. Forbes Mercy wrote: Dammit I hit send before changing the subject line Oh and its v4.5 not 4. Thanks for the help. On 6/30/2010 11:56 AM, Forbes Mercy wrote: We put a new Mikrotik 411 in service and it has v4 on it. We can't log into it with the web interface or winbox. Is this a new feature? Forbes WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Scott Reed Sr. Systems Engineer GAB Midwest 1-800-363-1544 x2241 1-260-827-2241 Cell: 260-273-7239 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik question
4.10 is now the stable. (4.1 is nine revisions prior to 4.10 in MTs numbering) Takes a while for it to get through the distribution channels, so many are coming in with 4.5. I had some come in last week with 3.23, so it depends on how many the distributor ordered and what the demand has been. Greg Ihnen wrote: I thought they are calling 4.1 the stable release? Greg On Jun 30, 2010, at 7:53 PM, Scott Reed wrote: Most everything I get now has 4.5. Works just like the 3.x stuff did. If it has a serial port, see what Hyperterminal shows during boot. I have had a couple of 411R come in DOA. Forbes Mercy wrote: Dammit I hit send before changing the subject line Oh and its v4.5 not 4. Thanks for the help. On 6/30/2010 11:56 AM, Forbes Mercy wrote: We put a new Mikrotik 411 in service and it has v4 on it. We can't log into it with the web interface or winbox. Is this a new feature? Forbes WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Scott Reed Sr. Systems Engineer GAB Midwest 1-800-363-1544 x2241 1-260-827-2241 Cell: 260-273-7239 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Scott Reed Sr. Systems Engineer GAB Midwest 1-800-363-1544 x2241 1-260-827-2241 Cell: 260-273-7239 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik question
On Wed, 2010-06-30 at 20:45 -0400, Scott Reed wrote: 4.10 is now the stable. (4.1 is nine revisions prior to 4.10 in MTs numbering) Takes a while for it to get through the distribution channels, so many are coming in with 4.5. I had some come in last week with 3.23, so it depends on how many the distributor ordered and what the demand has been. And whether they bother to power them up and test them prior to shipping (which I do..every one) -- * Butch Evans * Professional Network Consultation* * http://www.butchevans.com/* Network Engineering * * http://store.wispgear.net/* Wired or Wireless Networks * * http://blog.butchevans.com/ * ImageStream, Mikrotik and MORE! * WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik question
Why you take a RouterOS class :) But regardless, if you ahve a MT client, it will set the TX and RX speeds for the clients by default. YOu can set that by MAC as well, so you can control the bandwidth from the AP to the CPE. * --- Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer WISPA Board Member - wispa.org http://www.wispa.org/ Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik WISP Support Services WISPA Vendor Member* *Office*: 314-735-0270 *Website*: http://www.linktechs.net http://www.linktechs.net/ */LIVE On-Line Mikrotik Training/* http://www.linktechs.net/onlinetraining.asp The information transmitted (including attachments) is covered by the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18 U.S.C. 2510-2521, is intended only for the person(s) or entity/entities to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient(s) is prohibited, If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Cameron Kilton wrote: I was playing around on one of our wireless interfaces and couldn't help but notice the options in the wireless tab for: Default AP Tx Rate: And Default Client TX Rate: Any insight on what this does? I couldn't seem to find much info on it. Thanks, Cameron WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik question
Rate-limiting. But only works with MT clients. (i.e. not other WiFi clients) On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 10:22 AM, Cameron Kilton c...@midcoast.com wrote: I was playing around on one of our wireless interfaces and couldn't help but notice the options in the wireless tab for: Default AP Tx Rate: And Default Client TX Rate: Any insight on what this does? I couldn't seem to find much info on it. Thanks, Cameron WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik question
AP TX rate works on any client, but you have to have MT for the client TX rate .. :) * --- Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer WISPA Board Member - wispa.org http://www.wispa.org/ Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik WISP Support Services WISPA Vendor Member* *Office*: 314-735-0270 *Website*: http://www.linktechs.net http://www.linktechs.net/ */LIVE On-Line Mikrotik Training/* http://www.linktechs.net/onlinetraining.asp The information transmitted (including attachments) is covered by the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18 U.S.C. 2510-2521, is intended only for the person(s) or entity/entities to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient(s) is prohibited, If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Jayson Baker wrote: Rate-limiting. But only works with MT clients. (i.e. not other WiFi clients) On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 10:22 AM, Cameron Kilton c...@midcoast.com wrote: I was playing around on one of our wireless interfaces and couldn't help but notice the options in the wireless tab for: Default AP Tx Rate: And Default Client TX Rate: Any insight on what this does? I couldn't seem to find much info on it. Thanks, Cameron WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik question
On Fri, 2009-04-24 at 12:22 -0400, Cameron Kilton wrote: I was playing around on one of our wireless interfaces and couldn't help but notice the options in the wireless tab for: Default AP Tx Rate: And Default Client TX Rate: These 2 options set default rates for how much bandwidth is allocated to a station for upload (client tx) and download (ap tx). It is a layer 2 bandwidth limiter that really only works with other MT devices. Actually, the AP tx rate works with any device, but the client tx does not work with all other devices out there. -- * Butch Evans * Professional Network Consultation* * http://www.butchevans.com/* Network Engineering * * http://www.wispa.org/ * WISPA Board Member * * http://blog.butchevans.com/ * Wired or Wireless Networks * WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik question
What is the best way to provide speed limit per clients where they are not all MT clients? I would like to have something setup where every connected client gets so much bandwidth. I would like something that is automated nothing that has to be done every time. I know you can do this with hotspot, but this is not for hotspot function. -Cameron -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Butch Evans Sent: Friday, April 24, 2009 3:13 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik question On Fri, 2009-04-24 at 12:22 -0400, Cameron Kilton wrote: I was playing around on one of our wireless interfaces and couldn't help but notice the options in the wireless tab for: Default AP Tx Rate: And Default Client TX Rate: These 2 options set default rates for how much bandwidth is allocated to a station for upload (client tx) and download (ap tx). It is a layer 2 bandwidth limiter that really only works with other MT devices. Actually, the AP tx rate works with any device, but the client tx does not work with all other devices out there. -- * Butch Evans * Professional Network Consultation* * http://www.butchevans.com/* Network Engineering * * http://www.wispa.org/ * WISPA Board Member * * http://blog.butchevans.com/ * Wired or Wireless Networks * WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik question
MT Queues Scott Carullo Brevard Wireless 321-205-1100 x102 Original Message From: Cameron Kilton c...@midcoast.com Sent: Friday, April 24, 2009 3:58 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik question What is the best way to provide speed limit per clients where they are not all MT clients? I would like to have something setup where every connected client gets so much bandwidth. I would like something that is automated nothing that has to be done every time. I know you can do this with hotspot, but this is not for hotspot function. -Cameron -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Butch Evans Sent: Friday, April 24, 2009 3:13 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik question On Fri, 2009-04-24 at 12:22 -0400, Cameron Kilton wrote: I was playing around on one of our wireless interfaces and couldn't help but notice the options in the wireless tab for: Default AP Tx Rate: And Default Client TX Rate: These 2 options set default rates for how much bandwidth is allocated to a station for upload (client tx) and download (ap tx). It is a layer 2 bandwidth limiter that really only works with other MT devices. Actually, the AP tx rate works with any device, but the client tx does not work with all other devices out there. -- * Butch Evans * Professional Network Consultation* * http://www.butchevans.com/* Network Engineering * * http://www.wispa.org/ * WISPA Board Member * * http://blog.butchevans.com/ * Wired or Wireless Networks * WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik question
You can setup the hotspot to authenticate based on MAC address via RADIUS. Have the RADIUS server send back the speed limit (and bursting if so desired). The AP will create a dynamic simple queue for the client. When the client goes away, so does the queue. Cameron Kilton wrote: What is the best way to provide speed limit per clients where they are not all MT clients? I would like to have something setup where every connected client gets so much bandwidth. I would like something that is automated nothing that has to be done every time. I know you can do this with hotspot, but this is not for hotspot function. -Cameron -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Butch Evans Sent: Friday, April 24, 2009 3:13 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik question On Fri, 2009-04-24 at 12:22 -0400, Cameron Kilton wrote: I was playing around on one of our wireless interfaces and couldn't help but notice the options in the wireless tab for: Default AP Tx Rate: And Default Client TX Rate: These 2 options set default rates for how much bandwidth is allocated to a station for upload (client tx) and download (ap tx). It is a layer 2 bandwidth limiter that really only works with other MT devices. Actually, the AP tx rate works with any device, but the client tx does not work with all other devices out there. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.287 / Virus Database: 270.12.4/2078 - Release Date: 04/24/09 07:54:00 -- Scott Reed Sr. Systems Engineer GAB Midwest 1-800-363-1544 x4000 Cell: 260-273-7239 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik question
We don't use radius or PPPoE. We provide every customer with a static address. I like the idea of a dynamic queue is there a way to create dynamic queues for connected clients? -Cameron -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jason Hensley Sent: Friday, April 24, 2009 4:14 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik question RADIUS and PPPoE. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Cameron Kilton Sent: Friday, April 24, 2009 3:06 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik question What is the best way to provide speed limit per clients where they are not all MT clients? I would like to have something setup where every connected client gets so much bandwidth. I would like something that is automated nothing that has to be done every time. I know you can do this with hotspot, but this is not for hotspot function. -Cameron -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Butch Evans Sent: Friday, April 24, 2009 3:13 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik question On Fri, 2009-04-24 at 12:22 -0400, Cameron Kilton wrote: I was playing around on one of our wireless interfaces and couldn't help but notice the options in the wireless tab for: Default AP Tx Rate: And Default Client TX Rate: These 2 options set default rates for how much bandwidth is allocated to a station for upload (client tx) and download (ap tx). It is a layer 2 bandwidth limiter that really only works with other MT devices. Actually, the AP tx rate works with any device, but the client tx does not work with all other devices out there. -- * Butch Evans * Professional Network Consultation* * http://www.butchevans.com/* Network Engineering * * http://www.wispa.org/ * WISPA Board Member * * http://blog.butchevans.com/ * Wired or Wireless Networks * WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik question
On Fri, 2009-04-24 at 16:05 -0400, Cameron Kilton wrote: What is the best way to provide speed limit per clients where they are not all MT clients? This can be done via queues. That's a better solution than the layer2 approach anyway (sort of). I would like to have something setup where every connected client gets so much bandwidth. I would like something that is automated nothing that has to be done every time. I know you can do this with hotspot, but this is not for hotspot function. If you are using RADIUS, this is rather easy, depending on how your customers connect. If you use DHCP, then you can provide a rate-limit attribute from your radius server for DHCP leases, even if you let the pool be managed by the MT side. Same is true for PPPoE. You can set speed limits directly on the MT for both types of service as well. For static IP assignments, you can build the queues, but it'll not be automated in any way. -- * Butch Evans * Professional Network Consultation* * http://www.butchevans.com/* Network Engineering * * http://www.wispa.org/ * WISPA Board Member * * http://blog.butchevans.com/ * Wired or Wireless Networks * WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik question
On Fri, 2009-04-24 at 16:46 -0400, Cameron Kilton wrote: I like the idea of a dynamic queue is there a way to create dynamic queues for connected clients? One other method I just thought of is PCQ. PCQ is a queue type that will allow you to classify a customer by IP address (in mangle) and they will be given a specific speed up and down. Without radius the automated part is a bit more tricky and your options are limited. -- * Butch Evans * Professional Network Consultation* * http://www.butchevans.com/* Network Engineering * * http://www.wispa.org/ * WISPA Board Member * * http://blog.butchevans.com/ * Wired or Wireless Networks * WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Question.
Yes, by creating a mangle rule for the mac address and mark the packets then a queue rule to rate limit by packet mark I believe Mike Goicoechea -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Matt Jenkins Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 3:53 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Mikrotik Question. I need to do packet and bandwidth throttling on some users. I hear everyone say that Mikrotik is the answer. However I need something that will be a bridge (not route) and throttle by MAC address only. Can Mikrotik do this? - Matt WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Question.
Kind of like this: /ip firew mang add action=mark-packet chain=prerouting comment= disabled=no new-packet-mark=\ desktoppackets passthrough=yes src-mac-address=00:02:B3:8C:18:E4 /que simp add burst-limit=0/0 burst-threshold=0/0 burst-time=0s/0s comment= direction=both \ disabled=no dst-address=0.0.0.0/0 interface=all limit-at=0/0 max-limit=\ 100/100 name=desktopqueue packet-marks=desktoppackets parent=none priority=8 \ queue=default-small/default-small total-queue=default-small Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 5:12 PM, Mike Goicoechea m...@defactowireless.comwrote: Yes, by creating a mangle rule for the mac address and mark the packets then a queue rule to rate limit by packet mark I believe Mike Goicoechea -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Matt Jenkins Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 3:53 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Mikrotik Question. I need to do packet and bandwidth throttling on some users. I hear everyone say that Mikrotik is the answer. However I need something that will be a bridge (not route) and throttle by MAC address only. Can Mikrotik do this? - Matt WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
