Re: [WISPA] Network Monitor
If you feel like doing a little custom PHP/ASP work, you can have Nagios spit check results etc into an SQL database. Then just have an app that pulls the appropriate data when your user browses to their status page. Adam Kennedy Senior Network Administrator Cyberlink Technologies, Inc. Phone: (888) 293-3693 Fax: (574) 855-5761 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 6:56 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Network Monitor Adam, You lsited some Neat/powerful feature ideas, Nagios is capable of. Are you aware if any of the Monitoring solutions support displaying unique info for multiple resellers of the ISP. Meaning... It nice to collect a historical log of uptime or downtime. I'd like my custoemrs to view their specific info, but not all the info of my otehr customers. And I'd like my resellers to view info for all their custoemrs, but not my other customers. This is one of the issues when I ised RRDTool and MRTG to collect data... I only collect it into a common portal. I'd rather have it multi-user, multi-view. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Adam Kennedy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 3:42 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Network Monitor Another 2 cents of mine I took a look at OpenNMS and The Dude. I have been using Nagios since the days of it being called Netsaint. You literally can make Nagios check anything and respond in almost any way to an outage. It's free and open source and I believe really has the capability to show what OSS is all about. Some things that are extremely cool (and really not hard to implement) for nagios that are WISP/ISP specific: - Check various wireless gear signal strengths and compare them to temperature and fog conditions of weather in that area. Adjust notifications of lower signals based on that info. (i.e., it's foggy, I would rather know there is fog than to get alerts of a sudden drop in 50 radios) - Checking/Notification of BGP peers receiving significantly less routes than they should - Access point drops all of it's associated radios. Nagios can try to fix the problem by running a script which would reboot the AP. Didn't work? Well then it notifies you. It also notifies that it tried rebooting ;) Have an idea of something you want implemented? Write a bash script, perl script or C/C++ app to do it and let nagios have fun. There are other things like grouping services/checks/hosts etc. by using regular expressions. All I do is add a device to our network and create a file with a specific host name in the file and IP address. Nagios takes care of looking at the name to identify what type of services should be checked etc. Really Nagios just gives you ultimate flexibility. I can't seem to find in OpenNMS where you can identify thresholds for various services. It only appears that they must match up with a MIB file for results. I also don't necessarily like that I have to define downtimes in an XML file with OpenNMS. Nagios I can just click on a host and schedule it right there. Or for an entire group of hosts. But maybe I missed that in OpenNMS on accident? If you want something with Nagios flexibility with a really good web interface, check out Centreon at www.centreon.com Adam Kennedy Senior Network Administrator Cyberlink Technologies, Inc. Phone: (888) 293-3693 Fax: (574) 855-5761 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dennis Burgess Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2008 11:57 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Network Monitor Free is also a good thing. Alerts and such work great, the kewl part is the agents. You can put a remote agent out there ( we use it for hotspot networks ), and the agent polls the devices behind the NAT at the hotspot location. Slick as can be, simple, and works! Guess I am biased though, seeing I'm one of two MT Dude Consultants. :) We have been putting these in quite a bit, takes some time if you start building from scratch, but works like a champ! Tom DeReggi wrote: Well, Very good question, and I only have one answer... Nagios/Cacti is open source, so it can be adapted to the WISP's specific need as required. However, for someone that doesn't want to be a developer, I agree, Dude is pretty sweet, and much easier to put up and run. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Jim Patient [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 5:01 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Network Monitor I'm having a hard time understanding why yawl just wouldn't use the Dude? It's FREE, it emails me in the event of an anomaly, sends text msgs, monitors
Re: [WISPA] Network Monitor
Adam Kennedy wrote: If you feel like doing a little custom PHP/ASP work, you can have Nagios spit check results etc into an SQL database. Then just have an app that pulls the appropriate data when your user browses to their status page. On some distros, I believe it's all integrated into one package (e.g. nagios-mysql on Debian) WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Network Monitor
Another 2 cents of mine I took a look at OpenNMS and The Dude. I have been using Nagios since the days of it being called Netsaint. You literally can make Nagios check anything and respond in almost any way to an outage. It's free and open source and I believe really has the capability to show what OSS is all about. Some things that are extremely cool (and really not hard to implement) for nagios that are WISP/ISP specific: - Check various wireless gear signal strengths and compare them to temperature and fog conditions of weather in that area. Adjust notifications of lower signals based on that info. (i.e., it's foggy, I would rather know there is fog than to get alerts of a sudden drop in 50 radios) - Checking/Notification of BGP peers receiving significantly less routes than they should - Access point drops all of it's associated radios. Nagios can try to fix the problem by running a script which would reboot the AP. Didn't work? Well then it notifies you. It also notifies that it tried rebooting ;) Have an idea of something you want implemented? Write a bash script, perl script or C/C++ app to do it and let nagios have fun. There are other things like grouping services/checks/hosts etc. by using regular expressions. All I do is add a device to our network and create a file with a specific host name in the file and IP address. Nagios takes care of looking at the name to identify what type of services should be checked etc. Really Nagios just gives you ultimate flexibility. I can't seem to find in OpenNMS where you can identify thresholds for various services. It only appears that they must match up with a MIB file for results. I also don't necessarily like that I have to define downtimes in an XML file with OpenNMS. Nagios I can just click on a host and schedule it right there. Or for an entire group of hosts. But maybe I missed that in OpenNMS on accident? If you want something with Nagios flexibility with a really good web interface, check out Centreon at www.centreon.com Adam Kennedy Senior Network Administrator Cyberlink Technologies, Inc. Phone: (888) 293-3693 Fax: (574) 855-5761 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dennis Burgess Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2008 11:57 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Network Monitor Free is also a good thing. Alerts and such work great, the kewl part is the agents. You can put a remote agent out there ( we use it for hotspot networks ), and the agent polls the devices behind the NAT at the hotspot location. Slick as can be, simple, and works! Guess I am biased though, seeing I'm one of two MT Dude Consultants. :) We have been putting these in quite a bit, takes some time if you start building from scratch, but works like a champ! Tom DeReggi wrote: Well, Very good question, and I only have one answer... Nagios/Cacti is open source, so it can be adapted to the WISP's specific need as required. However, for someone that doesn't want to be a developer, I agree, Dude is pretty sweet, and much easier to put up and run. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Jim Patient [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 5:01 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Network Monitor I'm having a hard time understanding why yawl just wouldn't use the Dude? It's FREE, it emails me in the event of an anomaly, sends text msgs, monitors/graphs number of hotspot users, bandwidth, outages, traffic on my links, uptime, or just about anything else you want to look at, log, notify you of, login to, upgrade, or have your wife go fix;-) It even has a nice pretty web interface for your level 1 support crew (daughter or son) to look at. I'm interested in finding out what I would gain by running Nagios or Cacti? From what I see on this thread, it would take both to do the job of just one Dude? Jim rabbtux rabbtux wrote: I used the cacti/nagios combo for years, but in Feb I switched to OpenNMS. It was tricky to get setup, and the folks on their IRC were invaluable! Now it auto scans multiple ip networks and ranges I specify every 4 hours and sends me a txt msg each time I add customers. For all the normal stuff it runs every 5 minutes and produces graphs for not just ping but 'smoke ping', http, dns, ssh, and other commonly discovered ports. It also collects a good bit of snmp data and graphs it. The time invested and IRC questions this last Feb are paying off in a sweet way now. My system looks at a couple hundred interfaces and a total of about a thousand ports/graphs for the network. Just My 2 cents worth. On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 1:56 PM, Adam Kennedy [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: The Wireless Connections app is actually based on Cricket, not Cacti. Huge difference there... I have released Alvarion templates
Re: [WISPA] Network Monitor
Adam, You lsited some Neat/powerful feature ideas, Nagios is capable of. Are you aware if any of the Monitoring solutions support displaying unique info for multiple resellers of the ISP. Meaning... It nice to collect a historical log of uptime or downtime. I'd like my custoemrs to view their specific info, but not all the info of my otehr customers. And I'd like my resellers to view info for all their custoemrs, but not my other customers. This is one of the issues when I ised RRDTool and MRTG to collect data... I only collect it into a common portal. I'd rather have it multi-user, multi-view. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Adam Kennedy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 3:42 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Network Monitor Another 2 cents of mine I took a look at OpenNMS and The Dude. I have been using Nagios since the days of it being called Netsaint. You literally can make Nagios check anything and respond in almost any way to an outage. It's free and open source and I believe really has the capability to show what OSS is all about. Some things that are extremely cool (and really not hard to implement) for nagios that are WISP/ISP specific: - Check various wireless gear signal strengths and compare them to temperature and fog conditions of weather in that area. Adjust notifications of lower signals based on that info. (i.e., it's foggy, I would rather know there is fog than to get alerts of a sudden drop in 50 radios) - Checking/Notification of BGP peers receiving significantly less routes than they should - Access point drops all of it's associated radios. Nagios can try to fix the problem by running a script which would reboot the AP. Didn't work? Well then it notifies you. It also notifies that it tried rebooting ;) Have an idea of something you want implemented? Write a bash script, perl script or C/C++ app to do it and let nagios have fun. There are other things like grouping services/checks/hosts etc. by using regular expressions. All I do is add a device to our network and create a file with a specific host name in the file and IP address. Nagios takes care of looking at the name to identify what type of services should be checked etc. Really Nagios just gives you ultimate flexibility. I can't seem to find in OpenNMS where you can identify thresholds for various services. It only appears that they must match up with a MIB file for results. I also don't necessarily like that I have to define downtimes in an XML file with OpenNMS. Nagios I can just click on a host and schedule it right there. Or for an entire group of hosts. But maybe I missed that in OpenNMS on accident? If you want something with Nagios flexibility with a really good web interface, check out Centreon at www.centreon.com Adam Kennedy Senior Network Administrator Cyberlink Technologies, Inc. Phone: (888) 293-3693 Fax: (574) 855-5761 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dennis Burgess Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2008 11:57 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Network Monitor Free is also a good thing. Alerts and such work great, the kewl part is the agents. You can put a remote agent out there ( we use it for hotspot networks ), and the agent polls the devices behind the NAT at the hotspot location. Slick as can be, simple, and works! Guess I am biased though, seeing I'm one of two MT Dude Consultants. :) We have been putting these in quite a bit, takes some time if you start building from scratch, but works like a champ! Tom DeReggi wrote: Well, Very good question, and I only have one answer... Nagios/Cacti is open source, so it can be adapted to the WISP's specific need as required. However, for someone that doesn't want to be a developer, I agree, Dude is pretty sweet, and much easier to put up and run. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Jim Patient [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 5:01 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Network Monitor I'm having a hard time understanding why yawl just wouldn't use the Dude? It's FREE, it emails me in the event of an anomaly, sends text msgs, monitors/graphs number of hotspot users, bandwidth, outages, traffic on my links, uptime, or just about anything else you want to look at, log, notify you of, login to, upgrade, or have your wife go fix;-) It even has a nice pretty web interface for your level 1 support crew (daughter or son) to look at. I'm interested in finding out what I would gain by running Nagios or Cacti? From what I see on this thread, it would take both to do the job of just one Dude? Jim rabbtux rabbtux wrote: I used the cacti/nagios combo
Re: [WISPA] Network Monitor
Cacti can do this out of the box. If you use AD or LDAP you can auth against it or use the built in database. Nagios can be perms based as well but it is a lot dirtier. ryan -Original Message- From: Tom DeReggi [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 3:56 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Network Monitor Adam, You lsited some Neat/powerful feature ideas, Nagios is capable of. Are you aware if any of the Monitoring solutions support displaying unique info for multiple resellers of the ISP. Meaning... It nice to collect a historical log of uptime or downtime. I'd like my custoemrs to view their specific info, but not all the info of my otehr customers. And I'd like my resellers to view info for all their custoemrs, but not my other customers. This is one of the issues when I ised RRDTool and MRTG to collect data... I only collect it into a common portal. I'd rather have it multi-user, multi-view. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Adam Kennedy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 3:42 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Network Monitor Another 2 cents of mine I took a look at OpenNMS and The Dude. I have been using Nagios since the days of it being called Netsaint. You literally can make Nagios check anything and respond in almost any way to an outage. It's free and open source and I believe really has the capability to show what OSS is all about. Some things that are extremely cool (and really not hard to implement) for nagios that are WISP/ISP specific: - Check various wireless gear signal strengths and compare them to temperature and fog conditions of weather in that area. Adjust notifications of lower signals based on that info. (i.e., it's foggy, I would rather know there is fog than to get alerts of a sudden drop in 50 radios) - Checking/Notification of BGP peers receiving significantly less routes than they should - Access point drops all of it's associated radios. Nagios can try to fix the problem by running a script which would reboot the AP. Didn't work? Well then it notifies you. It also notifies that it tried rebooting ;) Have an idea of something you want implemented? Write a bash script, perl script or C/C++ app to do it and let nagios have fun. There are other things like grouping services/checks/hosts etc. by using regular expressions. All I do is add a device to our network and create a file with a specific host name in the file and IP address. Nagios takes care of looking at the name to identify what type of services should be checked etc. Really Nagios just gives you ultimate flexibility. I can't seem to find in OpenNMS where you can identify thresholds for various services. It only appears that they must match up with a MIB file for results. I also don't necessarily like that I have to define downtimes in an XML file with OpenNMS. Nagios I can just click on a host and schedule it right there. Or for an entire group of hosts. But maybe I missed that in OpenNMS on accident? If you want something with Nagios flexibility with a really good web interface, check out Centreon at www.centreon.com Adam Kennedy Senior Network Administrator Cyberlink Technologies, Inc. Phone: (888) 293-3693 Fax: (574) 855-5761 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dennis Burgess Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2008 11:57 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Network Monitor Free is also a good thing. Alerts and such work great, the kewl part is the agents. You can put a remote agent out there ( we use it for hotspot networks ), and the agent polls the devices behind the NAT at the hotspot location. Slick as can be, simple, and works! Guess I am biased though, seeing I'm one of two MT Dude Consultants. :) We have been putting these in quite a bit, takes some time if you start building from scratch, but works like a champ! Tom DeReggi wrote: Well, Very good question, and I only have one answer... Nagios/Cacti is open source, so it can be adapted to the WISP's specific need as required. However, for someone that doesn't want to be a developer, I agree, Dude is pretty sweet, and much easier to put up and run. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Jim Patient [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 5:01 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Network Monitor I'm having a hard time understanding why yawl just wouldn't use the Dude? It's FREE, it emails me in the event of an anomaly, sends text msgs, monitors/graphs number of hotspot users, bandwidth, outages, traffic on my links, uptime, or just about anything else you want to look at, log, notify you of, login to, upgrade
Re: [WISPA] Network Monitor
Tom, Take a look at Cacti (www.cacti.net) to do this. It allows you to give create users and only give them access to their data. It can also display 95% usage and total transfer so customers can know what their billing will be. Adam, You lsited some Neat/powerful feature ideas, Nagios is capable of. Are you aware if any of the Monitoring solutions support displaying unique info for multiple resellers of the ISP. Meaning... It nice to collect a historical log of uptime or downtime. I'd like my custoemrs to view their specific info, but not all the info of my otehr customers. And I'd like my resellers to view info for all their custoemrs, but not my other customers. This is one of the issues when I ised RRDTool and MRTG to collect data... I only collect it into a common portal. I'd rather have it multi-user, multi-view. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Adam Kennedy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 3:42 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Network Monitor Another 2 cents of mine I took a look at OpenNMS and The Dude. I have been using Nagios since the days of it being called Netsaint. You literally can make Nagios check anything and respond in almost any way to an outage. It's free and open source and I believe really has the capability to show what OSS is all about. Some things that are extremely cool (and really not hard to implement) for nagios that are WISP/ISP specific: - Check various wireless gear signal strengths and compare them to temperature and fog conditions of weather in that area. Adjust notifications of lower signals based on that info. (i.e., it's foggy, I would rather know there is fog than to get alerts of a sudden drop in 50 radios) - Checking/Notification of BGP peers receiving significantly less routes than they should - Access point drops all of it's associated radios. Nagios can try to fix the problem by running a script which would reboot the AP. Didn't work? Well then it notifies you. It also notifies that it tried rebooting ;) Have an idea of something you want implemented? Write a bash script, perl script or C/C++ app to do it and let nagios have fun. There are other things like grouping services/checks/hosts etc. by using regular expressions. All I do is add a device to our network and create a file with a specific host name in the file and IP address. Nagios takes care of looking at the name to identify what type of services should be checked etc. Really Nagios just gives you ultimate flexibility. I can't seem to find in OpenNMS where you can identify thresholds for various services. It only appears that they must match up with a MIB file for results. I also don't necessarily like that I have to define downtimes in an XML file with OpenNMS. Nagios I can just click on a host and schedule it right there. Or for an entire group of hosts. But maybe I missed that in OpenNMS on accident? If you want something with Nagios flexibility with a really good web interface, check out Centreon at www.centreon.com Adam Kennedy Senior Network Administrator Cyberlink Technologies, Inc. Phone: (888) 293-3693 Fax: (574) 855-5761 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dennis Burgess Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2008 11:57 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Network Monitor Free is also a good thing. Alerts and such work great, the kewl part is the agents. You can put a remote agent out there ( we use it for hotspot networks ), and the agent polls the devices behind the NAT at the hotspot location. Slick as can be, simple, and works! Guess I am biased though, seeing I'm one of two MT Dude Consultants. :) We have been putting these in quite a bit, takes some time if you start building from scratch, but works like a champ! Tom DeReggi wrote: Well, Very good question, and I only have one answer... Nagios/Cacti is open source, so it can be adapted to the WISP's specific need as required. However, for someone that doesn't want to be a developer, I agree, Dude is pretty sweet, and much easier to put up and run. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Jim Patient [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 5:01 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Network Monitor I'm having a hard time understanding why yawl just wouldn't use the Dude? It's FREE, it emails me in the event of an anomaly, sends text msgs, monitors/graphs number of hotspot users, bandwidth, outages, traffic on my links, uptime, or just about anything else you want to look at, log, notify you of, login to, upgrade, or have your wife go fix;-) It even has a nice pretty web interface for your level 1 support crew (daughter
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Thanks guys. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 7:18 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Network Monitor Tom, Take a look at Cacti (www.cacti.net) to do this. It allows you to give create users and only give them access to their data. It can also display 95% usage and total transfer so customers can know what their billing will be. Adam, You lsited some Neat/powerful feature ideas, Nagios is capable of. Are you aware if any of the Monitoring solutions support displaying unique info for multiple resellers of the ISP. Meaning... It nice to collect a historical log of uptime or downtime. I'd like my custoemrs to view their specific info, but not all the info of my otehr customers. And I'd like my resellers to view info for all their custoemrs, but not my other customers. This is one of the issues when I ised RRDTool and MRTG to collect data... I only collect it into a common portal. I'd rather have it multi-user, multi-view. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Adam Kennedy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 3:42 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Network Monitor Another 2 cents of mine I took a look at OpenNMS and The Dude. I have been using Nagios since the days of it being called Netsaint. You literally can make Nagios check anything and respond in almost any way to an outage. It's free and open source and I believe really has the capability to show what OSS is all about. Some things that are extremely cool (and really not hard to implement) for nagios that are WISP/ISP specific: - Check various wireless gear signal strengths and compare them to temperature and fog conditions of weather in that area. Adjust notifications of lower signals based on that info. (i.e., it's foggy, I would rather know there is fog than to get alerts of a sudden drop in 50 radios) - Checking/Notification of BGP peers receiving significantly less routes than they should - Access point drops all of it's associated radios. Nagios can try to fix the problem by running a script which would reboot the AP. Didn't work? Well then it notifies you. It also notifies that it tried rebooting ;) Have an idea of something you want implemented? Write a bash script, perl script or C/C++ app to do it and let nagios have fun. There are other things like grouping services/checks/hosts etc. by using regular expressions. All I do is add a device to our network and create a file with a specific host name in the file and IP address. Nagios takes care of looking at the name to identify what type of services should be checked etc. Really Nagios just gives you ultimate flexibility. I can't seem to find in OpenNMS where you can identify thresholds for various services. It only appears that they must match up with a MIB file for results. I also don't necessarily like that I have to define downtimes in an XML file with OpenNMS. Nagios I can just click on a host and schedule it right there. Or for an entire group of hosts. But maybe I missed that in OpenNMS on accident? If you want something with Nagios flexibility with a really good web interface, check out Centreon at www.centreon.com Adam Kennedy Senior Network Administrator Cyberlink Technologies, Inc. Phone: (888) 293-3693 Fax: (574) 855-5761 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dennis Burgess Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2008 11:57 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Network Monitor Free is also a good thing. Alerts and such work great, the kewl part is the agents. You can put a remote agent out there ( we use it for hotspot networks ), and the agent polls the devices behind the NAT at the hotspot location. Slick as can be, simple, and works! Guess I am biased though, seeing I'm one of two MT Dude Consultants. :) We have been putting these in quite a bit, takes some time if you start building from scratch, but works like a champ! Tom DeReggi wrote: Well, Very good question, and I only have one answer... Nagios/Cacti is open source, so it can be adapted to the WISP's specific need as required. However, for someone that doesn't want to be a developer, I agree, Dude is pretty sweet, and much easier to put up and run. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Jim Patient [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 5:01 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Network Monitor I'm having a hard time understanding why yawl just wouldn't use the Dude? It's FREE, it emails me in the event of an anomaly, sends text msgs, monitors/graphs number
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Dude is very simple. It combines the monitoring and notification settings of Nagios in with the link and notification information of MRTG. All in a slick graphic interface with multiple maps, drill down capabilities, etc. You can run it on a RouterOS device or any windows box. It runs just fine on my Ubuntu laptop under wine. I would agree the web interface is somewhat lacking, but it does show some great information as well as gives you the ability to set it once, and then auto refresh for outages and such. We have several clients that have some PCs with 2-3 Dual video cards with lots of information displaying. heck we have another customer with their PC plugged into there PA system for the paging in the office. Plays sounds when backhauls go down so that they can stop playing pong and fix something. Dennis Mike Hammett wrote: The voodoo that I'm aware of is answering the questions in the setup, though I may be thinking of something else. -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: David E. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 12:25 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Network Monitor Dennis Burgess wrote: It does have a browser interface :) Technically true, but the Dude's Web interface is sorely lacking. You can look at stuff, but most configuration changes (especially to maps) require the Dude client. There's also the minor annoyance, for some, that The Dude requires Windows (or something like WINE). I remember looking at some Mikrotik hardware I purchased recently, and vaguely recall seeing a dude package. Does that do what I think it does - i.e. act as a standalone Dude server? That's promising, as most of the issues I have with my current Dude installation are more related to Windows (and the voodoo you have to go through to get The Dude to run as a Windows service) than the software itself. David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
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Free is also a good thing. Alerts and such work great, the kewl part is the agents. You can put a remote agent out there ( we use it for hotspot networks ), and the agent polls the devices behind the NAT at the hotspot location. Slick as can be, simple, and works! Guess I am biased though, seeing I'm one of two MT Dude Consultants. :) We have been putting these in quite a bit, takes some time if you start building from scratch, but works like a champ! Tom DeReggi wrote: Well, Very good question, and I only have one answer... Nagios/Cacti is open source, so it can be adapted to the WISP's specific need as required. However, for someone that doesn't want to be a developer, I agree, Dude is pretty sweet, and much easier to put up and run. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Jim Patient [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 5:01 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Network Monitor I'm having a hard time understanding why yawl just wouldn't use the Dude? It's FREE, it emails me in the event of an anomaly, sends text msgs, monitors/graphs number of hotspot users, bandwidth, outages, traffic on my links, uptime, or just about anything else you want to look at, log, notify you of, login to, upgrade, or have your wife go fix;-) It even has a nice pretty web interface for your level 1 support crew (daughter or son) to look at. I'm interested in finding out what I would gain by running Nagios or Cacti? From what I see on this thread, it would take both to do the job of just one Dude? Jim rabbtux rabbtux wrote: I used the cacti/nagios combo for years, but in Feb I switched to OpenNMS. It was tricky to get setup, and the folks on their IRC were invaluable! Now it auto scans multiple ip networks and ranges I specify every 4 hours and sends me a txt msg each time I add customers. For all the normal stuff it runs every 5 minutes and produces graphs for not just ping but 'smoke ping', http, dns, ssh, and other commonly discovered ports. It also collects a good bit of snmp data and graphs it. The time invested and IRC questions this last Feb are paying off in a sweet way now. My system looks at a couple hundred interfaces and a total of about a thousand ports/graphs for the network. Just My 2 cents worth. On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 1:56 PM, Adam Kennedy [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: The Wireless Connections app is actually based on Cricket, not Cacti. Huge difference there... I have released Alvarion templates for the Cacti system. They are available from the Cacti forums at: http://forums.cacti.net/viewtopic.php?t=18328 We also run the Nagios/Cacti combo. I have quite a few years of Nagios experience behind me if anyone needs some guidance getting things going. We currently have 631 hosts and 4,382 services being checked every 2 minutes or so on Nagios with average service check latency of 3.06 seconds Yea, it's pretty sweet :P Adam Kennedy Senior Network Administrator Cyberlink Technologies, Inc. Phone: 888-293-3693 Fax: 574-855-5761 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Rock Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 11:26 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Network Monitor Check our free application that initiates Cacti graphs and config files can easilly be made and/or updated to adapt to about any SNMP device. All we ask is that you buy all your gear from us... Kidding of course. The system is a bit dated but we can help adapt it to your needs. We also have a free support email list to get your questions answered. Software: http://www.wirelessconnections.net/index.php?option=com_docmantask=doc_ downloadgid=23Itemid=58http://www.wirelessconnections.net/index.php?option=com_docmantask=doc_downloadgid=23Itemid=58 RTFM: http://www.wirelessconnections.net/index.php?option=com_docmantask=doc_ downloadgid=22Itemid=58http://www.wirelessconnections.net/index.php?option=com_docmantask=doc_downloadgid=22Itemid=58 Copy and paste the entire links if the don't work correctly Thanks, John Rock Wireless Connections Director of Operations - Senior Engineer ACCessing the Future Today!! ofc. 419.660.6100 cell 419-706-7356 fax 419-668-4077 http://www.wirelessconnections.net This transmission and any files attached to it, may contain confidential and/or privileged information and intended only for the named recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, reproduction, retransmission, dissemination, disclosure, copying or any use of the information or files contained is strictly prohibited. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender by reply transmission and delete this electronic mail. - Original Message - From: Carl
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The voodoo that I'm aware of is answering the questions in the setup, though I may be thinking of something else. -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: David E. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 12:25 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Network Monitor Dennis Burgess wrote: It does have a browser interface :) Technically true, but the Dude's Web interface is sorely lacking. You can look at stuff, but most configuration changes (especially to maps) require the Dude client. There's also the minor annoyance, for some, that The Dude requires Windows (or something like WINE). I remember looking at some Mikrotik hardware I purchased recently, and vaguely recall seeing a dude package. Does that do what I think it does - i.e. act as a standalone Dude server? That's promising, as most of the issues I have with my current Dude installation are more related to Windows (and the voodoo you have to go through to get The Dude to run as a Windows service) than the software itself. David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Network Monitor
Well, Very good question, and I only have one answer... Nagios/Cacti is open source, so it can be adapted to the WISP's specific need as required. However, for someone that doesn't want to be a developer, I agree, Dude is pretty sweet, and much easier to put up and run. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Jim Patient [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 5:01 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Network Monitor I'm having a hard time understanding why yawl just wouldn't use the Dude? It's FREE, it emails me in the event of an anomaly, sends text msgs, monitors/graphs number of hotspot users, bandwidth, outages, traffic on my links, uptime, or just about anything else you want to look at, log, notify you of, login to, upgrade, or have your wife go fix;-) It even has a nice pretty web interface for your level 1 support crew (daughter or son) to look at. I'm interested in finding out what I would gain by running Nagios or Cacti? From what I see on this thread, it would take both to do the job of just one Dude? Jim rabbtux rabbtux wrote: I used the cacti/nagios combo for years, but in Feb I switched to OpenNMS. It was tricky to get setup, and the folks on their IRC were invaluable! Now it auto scans multiple ip networks and ranges I specify every 4 hours and sends me a txt msg each time I add customers. For all the normal stuff it runs every 5 minutes and produces graphs for not just ping but 'smoke ping', http, dns, ssh, and other commonly discovered ports. It also collects a good bit of snmp data and graphs it. The time invested and IRC questions this last Feb are paying off in a sweet way now. My system looks at a couple hundred interfaces and a total of about a thousand ports/graphs for the network. Just My 2 cents worth. On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 1:56 PM, Adam Kennedy [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: The Wireless Connections app is actually based on Cricket, not Cacti. Huge difference there... I have released Alvarion templates for the Cacti system. They are available from the Cacti forums at: http://forums.cacti.net/viewtopic.php?t=18328 We also run the Nagios/Cacti combo. I have quite a few years of Nagios experience behind me if anyone needs some guidance getting things going. We currently have 631 hosts and 4,382 services being checked every 2 minutes or so on Nagios with average service check latency of 3.06 seconds Yea, it's pretty sweet :P Adam Kennedy Senior Network Administrator Cyberlink Technologies, Inc. Phone: 888-293-3693 Fax: 574-855-5761 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Rock Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 11:26 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Network Monitor Check our free application that initiates Cacti graphs and config files can easilly be made and/or updated to adapt to about any SNMP device. All we ask is that you buy all your gear from us... Kidding of course. The system is a bit dated but we can help adapt it to your needs. We also have a free support email list to get your questions answered. Software: http://www.wirelessconnections.net/index.php?option=com_docmantask=doc_ downloadgid=23Itemid=58http://www.wirelessconnections.net/index.php?option=com_docmantask=doc_downloadgid=23Itemid=58 RTFM: http://www.wirelessconnections.net/index.php?option=com_docmantask=doc_ downloadgid=22Itemid=58http://www.wirelessconnections.net/index.php?option=com_docmantask=doc_downloadgid=22Itemid=58 Copy and paste the entire links if the don't work correctly Thanks, John Rock Wireless Connections Director of Operations - Senior Engineer ACCessing the Future Today!! ofc. 419.660.6100 cell 419-706-7356 fax 419-668-4077 http://www.wirelessconnections.net This transmission and any files attached to it, may contain confidential and/or privileged information and intended only for the named recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, reproduction, retransmission, dissemination, disclosure, copying or any use of the information or files contained is strictly prohibited. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender by reply transmission and delete this electronic mail. - Original Message - From: Carl Shivers [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 5:02 PM Subject: [WISPA] Network Monitor We are looking for Network monitoring software. We have been using Solar Winds, but they want another $1400 to upgrade. Any suggestions? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org
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I'm having a hard time understanding why yawl just wouldn't use the Dude? It's FREE, it emails me in the event of an anomaly, sends text msgs, monitors/graphs number of hotspot users, bandwidth, outages, traffic on my links, uptime, or just about anything else you want to look at, log, notify you of, login to, upgrade, or have your wife go fix;-) It even has a nice pretty web interface for your level 1 support crew (daughter or son) to look at. I'm interested in finding out what I would gain by running Nagios or Cacti? From what I see on this thread, it would take both to do the job of just one Dude? Jim rabbtux rabbtux wrote: I used the cacti/nagios combo for years, but in Feb I switched to OpenNMS. It was tricky to get setup, and the folks on their IRC were invaluable! Now it auto scans multiple ip networks and ranges I specify every 4 hours and sends me a txt msg each time I add customers. For all the normal stuff it runs every 5 minutes and produces graphs for not just ping but 'smoke ping', http, dns, ssh, and other commonly discovered ports. It also collects a good bit of snmp data and graphs it. The time invested and IRC questions this last Feb are paying off in a sweet way now. My system looks at a couple hundred interfaces and a total of about a thousand ports/graphs for the network. Just My 2 cents worth. On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 1:56 PM, Adam Kennedy [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: The Wireless Connections app is actually based on Cricket, not Cacti. Huge difference there... I have released Alvarion templates for the Cacti system. They are available from the Cacti forums at: http://forums.cacti.net/viewtopic.php?t=18328 We also run the Nagios/Cacti combo. I have quite a few years of Nagios experience behind me if anyone needs some guidance getting things going. We currently have 631 hosts and 4,382 services being checked every 2 minutes or so on Nagios with average service check latency of 3.06 seconds Yea, it's pretty sweet :P Adam Kennedy Senior Network Administrator Cyberlink Technologies, Inc. Phone: 888-293-3693 Fax: 574-855-5761 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Rock Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 11:26 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Network Monitor Check our free application that initiates Cacti graphs and config files can easilly be made and/or updated to adapt to about any SNMP device. All we ask is that you buy all your gear from us... Kidding of course. The system is a bit dated but we can help adapt it to your needs. We also have a free support email list to get your questions answered. Software: http://www.wirelessconnections.net/index.php?option=com_docmantask=doc_ downloadgid=23Itemid=58http://www.wirelessconnections.net/index.php?option=com_docmantask=doc_downloadgid=23Itemid=58 RTFM: http://www.wirelessconnections.net/index.php?option=com_docmantask=doc_ downloadgid=22Itemid=58http://www.wirelessconnections.net/index.php?option=com_docmantask=doc_downloadgid=22Itemid=58 Copy and paste the entire links if the don't work correctly Thanks, John Rock Wireless Connections Director of Operations - Senior Engineer ACCessing the Future Today!! ofc. 419.660.6100 cell 419-706-7356 fax 419-668-4077 http://www.wirelessconnections.net This transmission and any files attached to it, may contain confidential and/or privileged information and intended only for the named recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, reproduction, retransmission, dissemination, disclosure, copying or any use of the information or files contained is strictly prohibited. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender by reply transmission and delete this electronic mail. - Original Message - From: Carl Shivers [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 5:02 PM Subject: [WISPA] Network Monitor We are looking for Network monitoring software. We have been using Solar Winds, but they want another $1400 to upgrade. Any suggestions? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman
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Hey John, I didn't notice your company on the vendor member list? Are you a vendor member or just plugging your company free on this list? Maybe I just missed http://www.wirelessconnections.net when I did the search for the vendor members? Maybe it was my bad for missing it? Thanx Jim John Rock wrote: Check our free application that initiates Cacti graphs and config files can easilly be made and/or updated to adapt to about any SNMP device. All we ask is that you buy all your gear from us... Kidding of course. The system is a bit dated but we can help adapt it to your needs. We also have a free support email list to get your questions answered. Software: http://www.wirelessconnections.net/index.php?option=com_docmantask=doc_downloadgid=23Itemid=58 RTFM: http://www.wirelessconnections.net/index.php?option=com_docmantask=doc_downloadgid=22Itemid=58 Copy and paste the entire links if the don't work correctly Thanks, John Rock Wireless Connections Director of Operations - Senior Engineer ACCessing the Future Today!! ofc. 419.660.6100 cell 419-706-7356 fax 419-668-4077 http://www.wirelessconnections.net This transmission and any files attached to it, may contain confidential and/or privileged information and intended only for the named recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, reproduction, retransmission, dissemination, disclosure, copying or any use of the information or files contained is strictly prohibited. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender by reply transmission and delete this electronic mail. - Original Message - From: Carl Shivers [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 5:02 PM Subject: [WISPA] Network Monitor We are looking for Network monitoring software. We have been using Solar Winds, but they want another $1400 to upgrade. Any suggestions? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Network Monitor
I'm having a hard time understanding why yawl just wouldn't use the Dude? It's FREE, it emails me in the event of an anomaly, sends text msgs, monitors/graphs number of hotspot users, bandwidth, outages, traffic on my links, uptime, or just about anything else you want to look at, log, notify you of, login to, upgrade, or have your wife go fix;-) It even has a nice pretty web interface for your level 1 support crew (daughter or son) to look at. So does nagios and cacti. They are also open source so you can write any plug-in you need including non-snmp device checks. Cacti has tons of premade templates that can be found all over the net. I use nagios to check to see if linux boxes are up to date and a variety of other non-typical, non snmp monitoring situations. I also have the ability to provision the information to the NMS systems from my billing system so I can setup all of my information in one location and push it out to all of the other systems. Sincerely, Jeremy Davis Maximum Technologies, LLC Office 318.303.4725 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
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The dude is cool, our network admin has been playing with it. We all have a copy on our machines we mess with too. I like how it will show you real time bandwidth of a link. Lots of information there. But it must take up a lot of resources to do this to a large 1000 node network. We use Nagios and Cacti. Nagios even has a plug in for Firefox that sits on the bottom of the browser. Jim Patient wrote: I'm having a hard time understanding why yawl just wouldn't use the Dude? It's FREE, it emails me in the event of an anomaly, sends text msgs, monitors/graphs number of hotspot users, bandwidth, outages, traffic on my links, uptime, or just about anything else you want to look at, log, notify you of, login to, upgrade, or have your wife go fix;-) It even has a nice pretty web interface for your level 1 support crew (daughter or son) to look at. I'm interested in finding out what I would gain by running Nagios or Cacti? From what I see on this thread, it would take both to do the job of just one Dude? Jim rabbtux rabbtux wrote: I used the cacti/nagios combo for years, but in Feb I switched to OpenNMS. It was tricky to get setup, and the folks on their IRC were invaluable! Now it auto scans multiple ip networks and ranges I specify every 4 hours and sends me a txt msg each time I add customers. For all the normal stuff it runs every 5 minutes and produces graphs for not just ping but 'smoke ping', http, dns, ssh, and other commonly discovered ports. It also collects a good bit of snmp data and graphs it. The time invested and IRC questions this last Feb are paying off in a sweet way now. My system looks at a couple hundred interfaces and a total of about a thousand ports/graphs for the network. Just My 2 cents worth. On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 1:56 PM, Adam Kennedy [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: The Wireless Connections app is actually based on Cricket, not Cacti. Huge difference there... I have released Alvarion templates for the Cacti system. They are available from the Cacti forums at: http://forums.cacti.net/viewtopic.php?t=18328 We also run the Nagios/Cacti combo. I have quite a few years of Nagios experience behind me if anyone needs some guidance getting things going. We currently have 631 hosts and 4,382 services being checked every 2 minutes or so on Nagios with average service check latency of 3.06 seconds Yea, it's pretty sweet :P Adam Kennedy Senior Network Administrator Cyberlink Technologies, Inc. Phone: 888-293-3693 Fax: 574-855-5761 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Rock Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 11:26 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Network Monitor Check our free application that initiates Cacti graphs and config files can easilly be made and/or updated to adapt to about any SNMP device. All we ask is that you buy all your gear from us... Kidding of course. The system is a bit dated but we can help adapt it to your needs. We also have a free support email list to get your questions answered. Software: http://www.wirelessconnections.net/index.php?option=com_docmantask=doc_ downloadgid=23Itemid=58http://www.wirelessconnections.net/index.php?option=com_docmantask=doc_downloadgid=23Itemid=58 RTFM: http://www.wirelessconnections.net/index.php?option=com_docmantask=doc_ downloadgid=22Itemid=58http://www.wirelessconnections.net/index.php?option=com_docmantask=doc_downloadgid=22Itemid=58 Copy and paste the entire links if the don't work correctly Thanks, John Rock Wireless Connections Director of Operations - Senior Engineer ACCessing the Future Today!! ofc. 419.660.6100 cell 419-706-7356 fax 419-668-4077 http://www.wirelessconnections.net This transmission and any files attached to it, may contain confidential and/or privileged information and intended only for the named recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, reproduction, retransmission, dissemination, disclosure, copying or any use of the information or files contained is strictly prohibited. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender by reply transmission and delete this electronic mail. - Original Message - From: Carl Shivers [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 5:02 PM Subject: [WISPA] Network Monitor We are looking for Network monitoring software. We have been using Solar Winds, but they want another $1400 to upgrade. Any suggestions? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http
Re: [WISPA] Network Monitor
Jim- Personally, I like Nagios because you can make it monitor literally -anything-. In a previous life, we had it monitoring the server room door. If it was open for more than ~5 minutes, it nagged us. Then again, it all depends on how much you care. For me, these days caring doesn't happen often so I'd probably use The Dude. ;-) -chris Jim Patient wrote: I'm having a hard time understanding why yawl just wouldn't use the Dude? It's FREE, it emails me in the event of an anomaly, sends text msgs, monitors/graphs number of hotspot users, bandwidth, outages, traffic on my links, uptime, or just about anything else you want to look at, log, notify you of, login to, upgrade, or have your wife go fix;-) It even has a nice pretty web interface for your level 1 support crew (daughter or son) to look at. I'm interested in finding out what I would gain by running Nagios or Cacti? From what I see on this thread, it would take both to do the job of just one Dude? Jim WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
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Maybe they aren't a vendor member and decided to share a resource that was relevant to the thread. Maybe they won't share on the next thread because of your response. Maybe neither of our messages should need to have been sent to the whole list. -Matt On Aug 1, 2008, at 6:28 AM, Jim Patient wrote: Hey John, I didn't notice your company on the vendor member list? Are you a vendor member or just plugging your company free on this list? Maybe I just missed http://www.wirelessconnections.net when I did the search for the vendor members? Maybe it was my bad for missing it? Thanx Jim John Rock wrote: Check our free application that initiates Cacti graphs and config files can easilly be made and/or updated to adapt to about any SNMP device. All we ask is that you buy all your gear from us... Kidding of course. The system is a bit dated but we can help adapt it to your needs. We also have a free support email list to get your questions answered. Software: http://www.wirelessconnections.net/index.php?option=com_docmantask=doc_downloadgid=23Itemid=58 RTFM: http://www.wirelessconnections.net/index.php?option=com_docmantask=doc_downloadgid=22Itemid=58 Copy and paste the entire links if the don't work correctly Thanks, John Rock Wireless Connections Director of Operations - Senior Engineer ACCessing the Future Today!! ofc. 419.660.6100 cell 419-706-7356 fax 419-668-4077 http://www.wirelessconnections.net This transmission and any files attached to it, may contain confidential and/or privileged information and intended only for the named recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, reproduction, retransmission, dissemination, disclosure, copying or any use of the information or files contained is strictly prohibited. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender by reply transmission and delete this electronic mail. - Original Message - From: Carl Shivers [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 5:02 PM Subject: [WISPA] Network Monitor We are looking for Network monitoring software. We have been using Solar Winds, but they want another $1400 to upgrade. Any suggestions? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by Rapid Link, and is believed to be clean. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Network Monitor
George Rogato wrote: [ about The Dude ] But it must take up a lot of resources to do this to a large 1000 node network. It's not quite real time - The Dude's bandwidth indicia on its maps update every 30 seconds or so. That's roughly how often MRTG and Cacti (and basically everything else) updates bandwidth graphs, by default, so the load should be vaguely comparable. I have a three-year-old Celeron monitoring basically every tower on my small network (there's about 250 items in The Dude's devices list), and on that same server an old copy of WhatsUp doing the same thing (it doesn't have as many features, but a much better IMO Web interface), and that server's CPU and bandwidth usage are both negligible (CPU is near-zero, bandwidth is a steady 100kbps all the time). The Dude can, relatively easily, be configured to do just about anything that any other SNMP client can handle. I've got it monitoring for errors on T1s, monitoring SNR on backhaul links, and so on. (This isn't different from any other good SNMP package, of course.) Honestly, the only issue I have with it (and it's a small one) is that, if your device uses something other than the standard MIBs for traffic counters, you can't put those pretty little traffic gauges on your maps directly. Fortunately, the only gear in my network exhibiting this quirk is Trango, and you can still make traffic graphs (you just have to go through some extra steps). Given that it's free software, a few little quirks are to be expected. :D David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Network Monitor
The ability to push configs out from a central location is really a nice feature of Nagios/Cacti/MRTG. I also use Big Brother to monitor customer connections, and it is nice to have something that automatically pushes the configurations out whenever we make a change in the billing system - keeps everything in the same database. Matt Larsen vistabeam.com Jeremy Davis wrote: I'm having a hard time understanding why yawl just wouldn't use the Dude? It's FREE, it emails me in the event of an anomaly, sends text msgs, monitors/graphs number of hotspot users, bandwidth, outages, traffic on my links, uptime, or just about anything else you want to look at, log, notify you of, login to, upgrade, or have your wife go fix;-) It even has a nice pretty web interface for your level 1 support crew (daughter or son) to look at. So does nagios and cacti. They are also open source so you can write any plug-in you need including non-snmp device checks. Cacti has tons of premade templates that can be found all over the net. I use nagios to check to see if linux boxes are up to date and a variety of other non-typical, non snmp monitoring situations. I also have the ability to provision the information to the NMS systems from my billing system so I can setup all of my information in one location and push it out to all of the other systems. Sincerely, Jeremy Davis Maximum Technologies, LLC Office 318.303.4725 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Network Monitor
I've never used the DUDE, and probably won't because I generally go out of my way to avoid non-browser based multi-user applications. Somewhat of a philosophical bias, but avoids installation / platform / software / random-networking considerations / security hassles. I highly recommend OpenNMS as well. It's easier to maintain than nagios / cacti, is web based and open source, and provides full monitoring / trending / alarming. Very, very powerful, very scalable, and has a lot of flexibility / functionality that you won't find in other places. It does really good auto discovery and so forth. It also has some very powerful report generation tools if you need to demonstrate SLA compliance, etc. Mostly web-based, although has some text backend configuration stuff if you really want to do some tweaking / customization. -Clint Ricker Kentnis Technologies On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 9:25 PM, rabbtux rabbtux [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I used the cacti/nagios combo for years, but in Feb I switched to OpenNMS. It was tricky to get setup, and the folks on their IRC were invaluable! Now it auto scans multiple ip networks and ranges I specify every 4 hours and sends me a txt msg each time I add customers. For all the normal stuff it runs every 5 minutes and produces graphs for not just ping but 'smoke ping', http, dns, ssh, and other commonly discovered ports. It also collects a good bit of snmp data and graphs it. The time invested and IRC questions this last Feb are paying off in a sweet way now. My system looks at a couple hundred interfaces and a total of about a thousand ports/graphs for the network. Just My 2 cents worth. On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 1:56 PM, Adam Kennedy [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: The Wireless Connections app is actually based on Cricket, not Cacti. Huge difference there... I have released Alvarion templates for the Cacti system. They are available from the Cacti forums at: http://forums.cacti.net/viewtopic.php?t=18328 We also run the Nagios/Cacti combo. I have quite a few years of Nagios experience behind me if anyone needs some guidance getting things going. We currently have 631 hosts and 4,382 services being checked every 2 minutes or so on Nagios with average service check latency of 3.06 seconds Yea, it's pretty sweet :P Adam Kennedy Senior Network Administrator Cyberlink Technologies, Inc. Phone: 888-293-3693 Fax: 574-855-5761 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Rock Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 11:26 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Network Monitor Check our free application that initiates Cacti graphs and config files can easilly be made and/or updated to adapt to about any SNMP device. All we ask is that you buy all your gear from us... Kidding of course. The system is a bit dated but we can help adapt it to your needs. We also have a free support email list to get your questions answered. Software: http://www.wirelessconnections.net/index.php?option=com_docmantask=doc_ downloadgid=23Itemid=58http://www.wirelessconnections.net/index.php?option=com_docmantask=doc_downloadgid=23Itemid=58 RTFM: http://www.wirelessconnections.net/index.php?option=com_docmantask=doc_ downloadgid=22Itemid=58http://www.wirelessconnections.net/index.php?option=com_docmantask=doc_downloadgid=22Itemid=58 Copy and paste the entire links if the don't work correctly Thanks, John Rock Wireless Connections Director of Operations - Senior Engineer ACCessing the Future Today!! ofc. 419.660.6100 cell 419-706-7356 fax 419-668-4077 http://www.wirelessconnections.net This transmission and any files attached to it, may contain confidential and/or privileged information and intended only for the named recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, reproduction, retransmission, dissemination, disclosure, copying or any use of the information or files contained is strictly prohibited. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender by reply transmission and delete this electronic mail. - Original Message - From: Carl Shivers [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 5:02 PM Subject: [WISPA] Network Monitor We are looking for Network monitoring software. We have been using Solar Winds, but they want another $1400 to upgrade. Any suggestions? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Network Monitor
Also, just a note that I forgot to mention OpenNMS also handles SNMP traps very well and with little configuration, something that is a weakness in a lot of the free/open source applications which either simply don't or require some cumbersome configuration (like Nagios). -Clint On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 10:51 AM, Clint Ricker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've never used the DUDE, and probably won't because I generally go out of my way to avoid non-browser based multi-user applications. Somewhat of a philosophical bias, but avoids installation / platform / software / random-networking considerations / security hassles. I highly recommend OpenNMS as well. It's easier to maintain than nagios / cacti, is web based and open source, and provides full monitoring / trending / alarming. Very, very powerful, very scalable, and has a lot of flexibility / functionality that you won't find in other places. It does really good auto discovery and so forth. It also has some very powerful report generation tools if you need to demonstrate SLA compliance, etc. Mostly web-based, although has some text backend configuration stuff if you really want to do some tweaking / customization. -Clint Ricker Kentnis Technologies On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 9:25 PM, rabbtux rabbtux [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I used the cacti/nagios combo for years, but in Feb I switched to OpenNMS. It was tricky to get setup, and the folks on their IRC were invaluable! Now it auto scans multiple ip networks and ranges I specify every 4 hours and sends me a txt msg each time I add customers. For all the normal stuff it runs every 5 minutes and produces graphs for not just ping but 'smoke ping', http, dns, ssh, and other commonly discovered ports. It also collects a good bit of snmp data and graphs it. The time invested and IRC questions this last Feb are paying off in a sweet way now. My system looks at a couple hundred interfaces and a total of about a thousand ports/graphs for the network. Just My 2 cents worth. On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 1:56 PM, Adam Kennedy [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: The Wireless Connections app is actually based on Cricket, not Cacti. Huge difference there... I have released Alvarion templates for the Cacti system. They are available from the Cacti forums at: http://forums.cacti.net/viewtopic.php?t=18328 We also run the Nagios/Cacti combo. I have quite a few years of Nagios experience behind me if anyone needs some guidance getting things going. We currently have 631 hosts and 4,382 services being checked every 2 minutes or so on Nagios with average service check latency of 3.06 seconds Yea, it's pretty sweet :P Adam Kennedy Senior Network Administrator Cyberlink Technologies, Inc. Phone: 888-293-3693 Fax: 574-855-5761 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Rock Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 11:26 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Network Monitor Check our free application that initiates Cacti graphs and config files can easilly be made and/or updated to adapt to about any SNMP device. All we ask is that you buy all your gear from us... Kidding of course. The system is a bit dated but we can help adapt it to your needs. We also have a free support email list to get your questions answered. Software: http://www.wirelessconnections.net/index.php?option=com_docmantask=doc_ downloadgid=23Itemid=58http://www.wirelessconnections.net/index.php?option=com_docmantask=doc_downloadgid=23Itemid=58 RTFM: http://www.wirelessconnections.net/index.php?option=com_docmantask=doc_ downloadgid=22Itemid=58http://www.wirelessconnections.net/index.php?option=com_docmantask=doc_downloadgid=22Itemid=58 Copy and paste the entire links if the don't work correctly Thanks, John Rock Wireless Connections Director of Operations - Senior Engineer ACCessing the Future Today!! ofc. 419.660.6100 cell 419-706-7356 fax 419-668-4077 http://www.wirelessconnections.net This transmission and any files attached to it, may contain confidential and/or privileged information and intended only for the named recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, reproduction, retransmission, dissemination, disclosure, copying or any use of the information or files contained is strictly prohibited. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender by reply transmission and delete this electronic mail. - Original Message - From: Carl Shivers [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 5:02 PM Subject: [WISPA] Network Monitor We are looking for Network monitoring software. We have been using Solar Winds, but they want another $1400 to upgrade. Any suggestions? WISPA Wants
Re: [WISPA] Network Monitor
Thanks. This looks promising. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Jenkins Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 5:08 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Network Monitor Go get and install CactiEZ. Once setup and working its easy to maintain. Our billing person enters all new units into cacti. - Matt Carl Shivers wrote: Looks like you have to be a Unix guru to install and develop graphs. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Jenkins Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 4:06 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Network Monitor Cacti! Carl Shivers wrote: We are looking for Network monitoring software. We have been using Solar Winds, but they want another $1400 to upgrade. Any suggestions? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Network Monitor
It does have a browser interface :) -- * Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik WISP Support Services* 314-735-0270 http://www.linktechs.net http://www.linktechs.net/ */ Link Technologies, Inc is offering LIVE Mikrotik On-Line Training http://www.linktechs.net/onlinetraining.asp/* Clint Ricker wrote: I've never used the DUDE, and probably won't because I generally go out of my way to avoid non-browser based multi-user applications. Somewhat of a philosophical bias, but avoids installation / platform / software / random-networking considerations / security hassles. I highly recommend OpenNMS as well. It's easier to maintain than nagios / cacti, is web based and open source, and provides full monitoring / trending / alarming. Very, very powerful, very scalable, and has a lot of flexibility / functionality that you won't find in other places. It does really good auto discovery and so forth. It also has some very powerful report generation tools if you need to demonstrate SLA compliance, etc. Mostly web-based, although has some text backend configuration stuff if you really want to do some tweaking / customization. -Clint Ricker Kentnis Technologies On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 9:25 PM, rabbtux rabbtux [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I used the cacti/nagios combo for years, but in Feb I switched to OpenNMS. It was tricky to get setup, and the folks on their IRC were invaluable! Now it auto scans multiple ip networks and ranges I specify every 4 hours and sends me a txt msg each time I add customers. For all the normal stuff it runs every 5 minutes and produces graphs for not just ping but 'smoke ping', http, dns, ssh, and other commonly discovered ports. It also collects a good bit of snmp data and graphs it. The time invested and IRC questions this last Feb are paying off in a sweet way now. My system looks at a couple hundred interfaces and a total of about a thousand ports/graphs for the network. Just My 2 cents worth. On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 1:56 PM, Adam Kennedy [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: The Wireless Connections app is actually based on Cricket, not Cacti. Huge difference there... I have released Alvarion templates for the Cacti system. They are available from the Cacti forums at: http://forums.cacti.net/viewtopic.php?t=18328 We also run the Nagios/Cacti combo. I have quite a few years of Nagios experience behind me if anyone needs some guidance getting things going. We currently have 631 hosts and 4,382 services being checked every 2 minutes or so on Nagios with average service check latency of 3.06 seconds Yea, it's pretty sweet :P Adam Kennedy Senior Network Administrator Cyberlink Technologies, Inc. Phone: 888-293-3693 Fax: 574-855-5761 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Rock Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 11:26 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Network Monitor Check our free application that initiates Cacti graphs and config files can easilly be made and/or updated to adapt to about any SNMP device. All we ask is that you buy all your gear from us... Kidding of course. The system is a bit dated but we can help adapt it to your needs. We also have a free support email list to get your questions answered. Software: http://www.wirelessconnections.net/index.php?option=com_docmantask=doc_ downloadgid=23Itemid=58http://www.wirelessconnections.net/index.php?option=com_docmantask=doc_downloadgid=23Itemid=58 RTFM: http://www.wirelessconnections.net/index.php?option=com_docmantask=doc_ downloadgid=22Itemid=58http://www.wirelessconnections.net/index.php?option=com_docmantask=doc_downloadgid=22Itemid=58 Copy and paste the entire links if the don't work correctly Thanks, John Rock Wireless Connections Director of Operations - Senior Engineer ACCessing the Future Today!! ofc. 419.660.6100 cell 419-706-7356 fax 419-668-4077 http://www.wirelessconnections.net This transmission and any files attached to it, may contain confidential and/or privileged information and intended only for the named recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, reproduction, retransmission, dissemination, disclosure, copying or any use of the information or files contained is strictly prohibited. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender by reply transmission and delete this electronic mail. - Original Message - From: Carl Shivers [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 5:02 PM Subject: [WISPA] Network Monitor We are looking for Network monitoring software. We have been using Solar Winds, but they want another $1400 to upgrade. Any suggestions
Re: [WISPA] Network Monitor
Dennis Burgess wrote: It does have a browser interface :) Technically true, but the Dude's Web interface is sorely lacking. You can look at stuff, but most configuration changes (especially to maps) require the Dude client. There's also the minor annoyance, for some, that The Dude requires Windows (or something like WINE). I remember looking at some Mikrotik hardware I purchased recently, and vaguely recall seeing a dude package. Does that do what I think it does - i.e. act as a standalone Dude server? That's promising, as most of the issues I have with my current Dude installation are more related to Windows (and the voodoo you have to go through to get The Dude to run as a Windows service) than the software itself. David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Network Monitor
Charles Wyble wrote: Yes. Cacti is a nice solution, although it had a bit of a learning curve and setup time. MRTG was easier and quicker for me. (cfgmaker and indexmaker and you are done). Nagios is also nice as well. See something like http://www.groundworkopensource.com/ Ditto on what Charles says about Groundworks. IMO, it does what almost all network admins need right out of the box. I've heard really good things about OpenNMS, as well. But I know know it as well as I know Cacti/Nagios. I've heard it's a good tool with good community support, but I have yet to confirm. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Network Monitor
Carl Shivers wrote: Looks like you have to be a Unix guru to install and develop graphs. In defense of Cacti, it's not a UNIX guru that you have to be (Cacti installs on Windows), but you have to make sure your web and database stack are working properly (e.g. Apache / MySQL) to get it installed. Once it's installed, then you just need to understand a few rrdtool concepts, some MIB/SNMP stuff (if applicable), and read through the documentation. If you'd like, there are tons of great 3rd party plugins for it. Programs like Weathermap are very cool, as well. http://www.network-weathermap.com/ HTH! WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Network Monitor
You can load it on RouterOS as a server. We do this quite a bit for remote dude agents we use 433s. Use them to monitor hotspot networks behind firewalls and NAT from public dude servers. -- * Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik WISP Support Services* 314-735-0270 http://www.linktechs.net http://www.linktechs.net/ */ Link Technologies, Inc is offering LIVE Mikrotik On-Line Training http://www.linktechs.net/onlinetraining.asp/* David E. Smith wrote: Dennis Burgess wrote: It does have a browser interface :) Technically true, but the Dude's Web interface is sorely lacking. You can look at stuff, but most configuration changes (especially to maps) require the Dude client. There's also the minor annoyance, for some, that The Dude requires Windows (or something like WINE). I remember looking at some Mikrotik hardware I purchased recently, and vaguely recall seeing a dude package. Does that do what I think it does - i.e. act as a standalone Dude server? That's promising, as most of the issues I have with my current Dude installation are more related to Windows (and the voodoo you have to go through to get The Dude to run as a Windows service) than the software itself. David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Network Monitor
The Wireless Connections app is actually based on Cricket, not Cacti. Huge difference there... I have released Alvarion templates for the Cacti system. They are available from the Cacti forums at: http://forums.cacti.net/viewtopic.php?t=18328 We also run the Nagios/Cacti combo. I have quite a few years of Nagios experience behind me if anyone needs some guidance getting things going. We currently have 631 hosts and 4,382 services being checked every 2 minutes or so on Nagios with average service check latency of 3.06 seconds Yea, it's pretty sweet :P Adam Kennedy Senior Network Administrator Cyberlink Technologies, Inc. Phone: 888-293-3693 Fax: 574-855-5761 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Rock Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 11:26 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Network Monitor Check our free application that initiates Cacti graphs and config files can easilly be made and/or updated to adapt to about any SNMP device. All we ask is that you buy all your gear from us... Kidding of course. The system is a bit dated but we can help adapt it to your needs. We also have a free support email list to get your questions answered. Software: http://www.wirelessconnections.net/index.php?option=com_docmantask=doc_ downloadgid=23Itemid=58 RTFM: http://www.wirelessconnections.net/index.php?option=com_docmantask=doc_ downloadgid=22Itemid=58 Copy and paste the entire links if the don't work correctly Thanks, John Rock Wireless Connections Director of Operations - Senior Engineer ACCessing the Future Today!! ofc. 419.660.6100 cell 419-706-7356 fax 419-668-4077 http://www.wirelessconnections.net This transmission and any files attached to it, may contain confidential and/or privileged information and intended only for the named recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, reproduction, retransmission, dissemination, disclosure, copying or any use of the information or files contained is strictly prohibited. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender by reply transmission and delete this electronic mail. - Original Message - From: Carl Shivers [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 5:02 PM Subject: [WISPA] Network Monitor We are looking for Network monitoring software. We have been using Solar Winds, but they want another $1400 to upgrade. Any suggestions? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Network Monitor
I used the cacti/nagios combo for years, but in Feb I switched to OpenNMS. It was tricky to get setup, and the folks on their IRC were invaluable! Now it auto scans multiple ip networks and ranges I specify every 4 hours and sends me a txt msg each time I add customers. For all the normal stuff it runs every 5 minutes and produces graphs for not just ping but 'smoke ping', http, dns, ssh, and other commonly discovered ports. It also collects a good bit of snmp data and graphs it. The time invested and IRC questions this last Feb are paying off in a sweet way now. My system looks at a couple hundred interfaces and a total of about a thousand ports/graphs for the network. Just My 2 cents worth. On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 1:56 PM, Adam Kennedy [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: The Wireless Connections app is actually based on Cricket, not Cacti. Huge difference there... I have released Alvarion templates for the Cacti system. They are available from the Cacti forums at: http://forums.cacti.net/viewtopic.php?t=18328 We also run the Nagios/Cacti combo. I have quite a few years of Nagios experience behind me if anyone needs some guidance getting things going. We currently have 631 hosts and 4,382 services being checked every 2 minutes or so on Nagios with average service check latency of 3.06 seconds Yea, it's pretty sweet :P Adam Kennedy Senior Network Administrator Cyberlink Technologies, Inc. Phone: 888-293-3693 Fax: 574-855-5761 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Rock Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 11:26 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Network Monitor Check our free application that initiates Cacti graphs and config files can easilly be made and/or updated to adapt to about any SNMP device. All we ask is that you buy all your gear from us... Kidding of course. The system is a bit dated but we can help adapt it to your needs. We also have a free support email list to get your questions answered. Software: http://www.wirelessconnections.net/index.php?option=com_docmantask=doc_ downloadgid=23Itemid=58http://www.wirelessconnections.net/index.php?option=com_docmantask=doc_downloadgid=23Itemid=58 RTFM: http://www.wirelessconnections.net/index.php?option=com_docmantask=doc_ downloadgid=22Itemid=58http://www.wirelessconnections.net/index.php?option=com_docmantask=doc_downloadgid=22Itemid=58 Copy and paste the entire links if the don't work correctly Thanks, John Rock Wireless Connections Director of Operations - Senior Engineer ACCessing the Future Today!! ofc. 419.660.6100 cell 419-706-7356 fax 419-668-4077 http://www.wirelessconnections.net This transmission and any files attached to it, may contain confidential and/or privileged information and intended only for the named recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, reproduction, retransmission, dissemination, disclosure, copying or any use of the information or files contained is strictly prohibited. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender by reply transmission and delete this electronic mail. - Original Message - From: Carl Shivers [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 5:02 PM Subject: [WISPA] Network Monitor We are looking for Network monitoring software. We have been using Solar Winds, but they want another $1400 to upgrade. Any suggestions? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA
Re: [WISPA] Network Monitor
Cacti! Carl Shivers wrote: We are looking for Network monitoring software. We have been using Solar Winds, but they want another $1400 to upgrade. Any suggestions? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Network Monitor
Matt Jenkins wrote: Cacti! Yes. Cacti is a nice solution, although it had a bit of a learning curve and setup time. MRTG was easier and quicker for me. (cfgmaker and indexmaker and you are done). Nagios is also nice as well. See something like http://www.groundworkopensource.com/ -- Charles Wyble (818) 280 - 7059 http://charlesnw.blogspot.com CTO Known Element Enterprises / SoCal WiFI project WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Network Monitor
Nagios/Cacti together. A little more work than Solar Winds but so much less money! ryan Carl Shivers wrote: We are looking for Network monitoring software. We have been using Solar Winds, but they want another $1400 to upgrade. Any suggestions? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Network Monitor
Looks like you have to be a Unix guru to install and develop graphs. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Jenkins Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 4:06 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Network Monitor Cacti! Carl Shivers wrote: We are looking for Network monitoring software. We have been using Solar Winds, but they want another $1400 to upgrade. Any suggestions? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Network Monitor
Not really. Once the app is installed (it is a package or a port, it does it for you) then it is completely web-based. I used to be a MRTG Junkie, until I really wrapped my head around Cacti. Now my admin enters new clients into the monitoring software for me. ryan Carl Shivers wrote: Looks like you have to be a Unix guru to install and develop graphs. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Jenkins Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 4:06 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Network Monitor Cacti! Carl Shivers wrote: We are looking for Network monitoring software. We have been using Solar Winds, but they want another $1400 to upgrade. Any suggestions? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Network Monitor
Cacti/Nagios. Mark Nash UnwiredWest 78 Centennial Loop Suite E Eugene, OR 97401 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax http://www.unwiredwest.com - Original Message - From: Carl Shivers [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 2:02 PM Subject: [WISPA] Network Monitor We are looking for Network monitoring software. We have been using Solar Winds, but they want another $1400 to upgrade. Any suggestions? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Network Monitor
Once the application is working, it's extremely easy via web interface to make Cacti graphs. Nagios is a text-config-file application but it's also easy. Mark Nash UnwiredWest 78 Centennial Loop Suite E Eugene, OR 97401 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax http://www.unwiredwest.com - Original Message - From: Carl Shivers [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 2:09 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Network Monitor Looks like you have to be a Unix guru to install and develop graphs. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Jenkins Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 4:06 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Network Monitor Cacti! Carl Shivers wrote: We are looking for Network monitoring software. We have been using Solar Winds, but they want another $1400 to upgrade. Any suggestions? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Network Monitor
Go get and install CactiEZ. Once setup and working its easy to maintain. Our billing person enters all new units into cacti. - Matt Carl Shivers wrote: Looks like you have to be a Unix guru to install and develop graphs. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Jenkins Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 4:06 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Network Monitor Cacti! Carl Shivers wrote: We are looking for Network monitoring software. We have been using Solar Winds, but they want another $1400 to upgrade. Any suggestions? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Network Monitor
Why would you use two applications when you can use one! The DUDE :) Does all of that togeather! -- * Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik WISP Support Services* 314-735-0270 http://www.linktechs.net http://www.linktechs.net/ */ Link Technologies, Inc is offering LIVE Mikrotik On-Line Training http://www.linktechs.net/onlinetraining.asp/* D. Ryan Spott wrote: Nagios/Cacti together. A little more work than Solar Winds but so much less money! ryan Carl Shivers wrote: We are looking for Network monitoring software. We have been using Solar Winds, but they want another $1400 to upgrade. Any suggestions? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Network Monitor
D. Ryan Spott wrote: Nagios/Cacti together. A little more work than Solar Winds but so much less money! Ryan and I talked about that a little bit the other day, actually. The two go together quite well, actually. You can have Nagios poll the devices and then create rrd databases that Cacti can manipulate, or you can poll with Cacti and then have Nagios alert off those rrd databases (e.g. when a ping average falls below a certain value) SolarWinds does, however, have its place in the universe. Nagios and Cacti are easy for people who are already familiar open source, and SolarWinds makes sense for network types who rarely want to worry about nix-y stuff, such as vi, restarting services on boxes, troubleshooting overloaded boxes, installing client on servers, etc. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Network Monitor
Check our free application that initiates Cacti graphs and config files can easilly be made and/or updated to adapt to about any SNMP device. All we ask is that you buy all your gear from us... Kidding of course. The system is a bit dated but we can help adapt it to your needs. We also have a free support email list to get your questions answered. Software: http://www.wirelessconnections.net/index.php?option=com_docmantask=doc_downloadgid=23Itemid=58 RTFM: http://www.wirelessconnections.net/index.php?option=com_docmantask=doc_downloadgid=22Itemid=58 Copy and paste the entire links if the don't work correctly Thanks, John Rock Wireless Connections Director of Operations - Senior Engineer ACCessing the Future Today!! ofc. 419.660.6100 cell 419-706-7356 fax 419-668-4077 http://www.wirelessconnections.net This transmission and any files attached to it, may contain confidential and/or privileged information and intended only for the named recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, reproduction, retransmission, dissemination, disclosure, copying or any use of the information or files contained is strictly prohibited. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender by reply transmission and delete this electronic mail. - Original Message - From: Carl Shivers [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 5:02 PM Subject: [WISPA] Network Monitor We are looking for Network monitoring software. We have been using Solar Winds, but they want another $1400 to upgrade. Any suggestions? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
