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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf
Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2015 4:27 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Rogue Accesspoint Detection
A WISP doesn't own (or lease) everywhere. A company owns or leases
: Tuesday, January 06, 2015 11:06 AM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Rogue Accesspoint Detection
You can do it all day long within your own company. Marriott was doing it to
force people to give them money. A company doing it has plenty of other reasons.
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Mike Hammett
06, 2015 11:13 AM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Rogue Accesspoint Detection
Ok Dennis you said the same in a later post
From: Tim Kerns mailto:t...@cv-access.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2015 9:08 AM
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Piehn
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2015 11:13 AM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Rogue Accesspoint Detection
Looks like detection is ok.
Containment is not.
On the containment side. Is there a way to contain in only the following two
situations
SSID is same as yours
AP
:* Dennis Burgess mailto:dmburg...@linktechs.net
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While I understand your reasoning, I would disagree. If you could do
this, for the security of a WISP, we
From: Dennis Burgess dmburg...@linktechs.net
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, January 6, 2015 11:43:53 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Rogue Accesspoint Detection
You cannot do it at all….
Dennis Burgess, CTO, Link Technologies, Inc.
den...@linktechs.net – 314-735-0270
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From: Dennis Burgess dmburg...@linktechs.net
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Sent: Tuesday, January 6, 2015 3:09:47 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Rogue Accesspoint Detection
While I understand your reasoning, I would disagree. If you could do this,
for the security
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
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From: "Dennis Burgess" dmburg...@linktechs.net
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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf
Of Scott Piehn
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2015 3:16 PM
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What would be your take if their AP uses
, 2015 3:27 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Rogue Accesspoint Detection
I got dibs on linksys and NETGEAR1-NETGEAR99 :)
On 01/06/2015 03:16 PM, Scott Piehn wrote:
What would be your take if their AP uses the same SSID as yours.
Assuming Ruckus etc can knock out only that type
Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
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From: Dennis Burgess dmburg...@linktechs.net
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, January 6, 2015 3:09:47 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Rogue Accesspoint Detection
While I understand
General List
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There is no mention of a blanket refusal. In the FCC citation, the fact that
they're charging for Internet access is brought up every time the deauthing
activity is.
https://apps.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DOC-329743A1.pdf
https
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You cannot do it at all….
Dennis Burgess, CTO, Link Technologies, Inc.
den...@linktechs.net – 314-735-0270 – www.linktechs.net
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun
In our corporate environment we have a Cisco wireless environment (indoors)
and we match that with Cisco Prime for things like heat maps, rogue AP
detection, and tracking wireless devices that are associated among other
features.
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Of Tim Way
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2015 3:31 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Rogue Accesspoint Detection
In our corporate environment we have a Cisco wireless environment (indoors) and
we match that with Cisco Prime for things like heat maps, rogue AP detection
Solutions
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While I understand your reasoning, I would
Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
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From: Dennis Burgess dmburg...@linktechs.net
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, January 6, 2015 3:09:47 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Rogue Accesspoint Detection
While I understand your reasoning, I
: Tuesday, January 6, 2015 3:09:47 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Rogue Accesspoint Detection
While I understand your reasoning, I would disagree. If you could do
this, for the security of a WISP, we will shut down all
Access Points via Deauth attack that my Access Points can see. Also note,
I am
Sent: Tuesday, January 6, 2015 10:00:31 PM
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...but the deauth attack is the best way to capture the handshake!?? How are we
supposed to get the WPA key without the handshake??
On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 6:47 PM, Sean Heskett af...@zirkel.us wrote
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Of Eric Albert
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2015 10:16 AM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Rogue Accesspoint Detection
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf
Of Eric Albert
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2015 10:47 AM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Rogue Accesspoint Detection
This article goes back a few years but should help to frame this discussion.
http://www.theruckusroom.net/2010/08/when-wips-really
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Of Adair Winter
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2015 10:10 AM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Rogue Accesspoint Detection
a public place such as a hotel chain vs my private business where I needed
, 2015 10:16 AM
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Cc: drund...@computerdyn.com
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o Thanks for the info.
will pose that question to the auditor
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Scott M Piehn
From: Dennis Burgess mailto:dmburg
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Of Adair Winter
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2015 10:10 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Rogue Accesspoint Detection
a public place such as a hotel chain vs my private business where I needed to
be able to control
Ok Dennis you said the same in a later post
From: Tim Kerns
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2015 9:08 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Rogue Accesspoint Detection
Dennis, I think you are taking this to literal. I have the right to detect
and prohibit any wireless access point
Sent: Tuesday, January 6, 2015 10:50 AM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Rogue Accesspoint Detection
Nov of last year! http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/03/travel/marriott-fcc-wi-fi-fine/
Dennis Burgess, CTO, Link Technologies, Inc.
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o Thanks for the info.
will pose that question to the auditor
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Scott M Piehn
From: Dennis Burgess
Sent: Tuesday, January 6, 2015 10:05 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Rogue Accesspoint Detection
Note that many
Note that many of these systems (rather rogue AP prevention) have been
deemed illegal by the FCC, a hotel chain was fined 600k I think due to
it.
Dennis Burgess, CTO, Link Technologies, Inc.
den...@linktechs.net - 314-735-0270 - www.linktechs.net
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org
a public place such as a hotel chain vs my private business where I needed
to be able to control the wifi and keep things like wifi pineapples from
snooping on my business would be not allowed?
On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 10:05 AM, Dennis Burgess dmburg...@linktechs.net
wrote:
Note that many of
Many commercial solutions, such as Ruckus Wireless (where I work) have
Rouge AP Detection capability built into their APs or controllers. There is
nothing nefarious or illegal surrounding this feature. Let me know if you'd
like to talk further.
Eric Albert
MSO SE
Ruckus Wireless
On Tue, Jan 6,
dmburg...@linktechs.net
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, January 6, 2015 10:05:02 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Rogue Accesspoint Detection
Note that many of these systems (rather rogue AP prevention) have been deemed
illegal by the FCC, a hotel chain was fined 600k I think
: Tim Kerns t...@cv-access.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, January 6, 2015 11:08:43 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Rogue Accesspoint Detection
Dennis, I think you are taking this to literal. I have the right to detect
and prohibit any wireless access point
06, 2015 10:10 AM
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*Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Rogue Accesspoint Detection
a public place such as a hotel chain vs my private business where I needed
to be able to control the wifi and keep things like wifi pineapples from
snooping on my business would be not allowed
6, 2015 10:49:33 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Rogue Accesspoint Detection
There are two things that you need to think of and I’m sure different vendors
call it different things, so let me go in depth on this.
One method is to find a access point that has been plugged into the switching
system
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