Or indeed using any browser on a Mac;
1. Internet Explorer - nothing but source code
2. Safari - NO navigation
3. Firefox - NO navigation
I'm only assuming there's navigation - I caught a glimpse of it in the
PDF.
Probably cost them a fortune too
Actually - I finally
On Sun, 2 May 2004 16:05:53 +1000, Christiaan Knol wrote:
2. Safari - NO navigation
Oh It was my browser that was the problem.
Silly me, I was thinking that it was the site..
g
in order to make this more on topic
Clearly, (Australian) government departments need to get more
On Sun, 2 May 2004, Lea de Groot wrote:
On Sun, 2 May 2004 16:05:53 +1000, Christiaan Knol wrote:
2. Safari - NO navigation
Oh It was my browser that was the problem.
Silly me, I was thinking that it was the site..
g
in order to make this more on topic
Clearly, (Australian)
Hi
Following on from this, it's the kind of thing a Web Standards Group
whitepaper could help with - drawing on everyone's collective knowledge.
..or a press release... coming after the Australian Gov's $4 million IT
dept website fiasco last year, it may be picked up by a few outlets.
Ideas?
On Sun, 2 May 2004, James Ellis wrote:
Hi
Following on from this, it's the kind of thing a Web Standards Group
whitepaper could help with - drawing on everyone's collective knowledge.
..or a press release... coming after the Australian Gov's $4 million IT
dept website fiasco last year,
Look in the meta tags ...
[quote]
META content=Microsoft FrontPage 5.0 name=GENERATOR
[/quote]
HAR!! HAR!! HAR!! HARGUFFAW!!!
Cheers
Mike Kear
Windsor, NSW, Australia
AFP Webworks
http://afpwebworks.com
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Hey All...
I just noticed that my PHPMYADMIN has an option to rotate headers while
BROWSING tables...
This flips the text so its displayed vertivally, not horizontally...
It uses the CSS attribute:
writing-mode
I havent heard, or seen this before...
where did it come from?
anyone know -
It uses the CSS attribute:
writing-mode
I havent heard, or seen this before...
where did it come from?
anyone know - or have any info about this?
It's a Microsoft proprietary thing.
Not valid. Only works in IE.
Having said that, take a look at this CSS3 candidate
I'm a bit confused right now... Its killing me
I have the same site, 1 page + 1 css file located here:
http://beta.arc.com.au http://beta.arc.com.au/
AND
http://arc.prettymad.net http://arc.prettymad.net/
I copied the CSS and the PHP file from one to the other directly and
when I display
Ok thanks guys!
That cleared up my curiosity for the day!
btw another thing...
I have been told by someone that the W3C is controlled by MS.
Which I thought was total crap since IE is the worst browser out
there...
I know that MS dontated a lot of tech to W3C... is there any validity
to my
Hi Mariusz,
Are you referring to spacing issues between the navigation list items?
Looking at the source, the beta.arc server is stripping out excess
whitespace. This is known to affect IE6.
Regards,
Ben
Mariusz Stankiewicz wrote:
I have the same site, 1 page + 1 css file located here:
I copied
Ok I just realised it doesn't render properly if there are spaces
between the ulli/li/ul tags
You can still view the 'broken' page here:
http://arc.prettymad.net/broken_ie.php
How weird.
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To: [EMAIL
Both work perfectly here!
try clearing you cache, deleting temp internet files etc...
maybe your ISP is cacheing it also...??
Chris Stratford
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Http://www.neester.com
Mariusz Stankiewicz wrote:
I'm a bit confused right now... Its killing me
I have the same site, 1 page
Lea de Groot wrote:
But I'm happy to bow to your greater knowledge :)
Bow to the mighty Russ-o-tron, puny Earthling! ;o]
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After reading all the reply's that have happened in the past 2 days, the
first thing that came to mind was Oh God, what have I started with this
question? :-)
I was looking at the SVG stuff at the W3.org site. And yes, my mind was
blown away. It's definitly not something that I can pick up and
Is the Melbourne meeting really May 3? (like it says
on the web site) If so, it snuck up quick!
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Microsoft is indeed a major contributor to
the World Wide Web Consortium, but the W3C is an independent organization.
Financial and technical contributions come from a wide variety of industry
sources. Microsoft certainly DOESN'T call the shots at the W3C.
You should never think of IE as
AMEN Brother! Thanks for saying it. Kinda gets lonely out on this
limb... (sorry for the content-free reply)
P
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issues the last day or 2
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But you have to agree that at the moment, the state of IE5 and IE6 is
bad...
I'm not sure I do really. I have copies of
IE5, 5.5, and 6.0 on my PC for development purposes. I find that (within reason)
I am able to create cross-browser layouts and designs without much difficulty.
It is true
Hi all
Great to see an article in this weekend's Icon promoting the modern
browser, with a few salient words about our popular friend.
Link
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/04/30/1083224574998.html
This thread is not a discussion on browser merits but is about promoting
the tools that
How do I prevent link styles from showing on the images that are positioned
inside a div class with specified link style? An example below.
div class=aCol
Content text here Content text here Content text here Content text here
div class=divRight
a href=#img src=top.gif alt=Back to top of the page
Speaking of Dean Edwards work, are conditional comments
Valid HTML or just another MS HTML'ism?
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W3C?
It is worth noting, by the
.divRight a
{
border-bottom : none;
}
Your code was looking for an a element nested inside an image!
If there are other links in .divRight boxes that you want the border
applied to, you'll need to apply a different class to the a element
surrounding the image.
Patrick Griffiths
In an old article* I wrote about trying to
recreate frames with CSS, I used IE's conditional comments to get around the
problems it has with position: fixed. The article validates: http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fjessey.net%2Fsimon%2Farticles%2F007.html
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Hi List!
Ever since I've been using the standards approach to web design, I've never
used spans at all. What's the point of using them?
Thanks for your input!
Gabriel
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Hi Gabriel,
Spans are inline elements, that is, they can be used, for instance, to
highlight a area within another element, i.e. to change the colour of a few
words to enhance a look.
Divs are block level elements, effectively describing and enclosing a
logical block, a menu structure for
Gabriel Vasquez wrote:
Hi List!
Ever since I've been using the standards approach to web design, I've never
used spans at all. What's the point of using them?
Thanks for your input!
Gabriel
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It has to be used carefully, however.
If we had
foo {
border: 1px solid black;
}
.bar {
border: 2px dashed red;
}
class=foo bar
then it is undefined which has greter specifity (sp?)
Both have the same specifity.
The last one overrides the first one.
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Kristof
Ever since I've been using the standards approach to web design, I've never
used spans at all. What's the point of using them?
In addition to what Mike wrote, they, like divs, can be used as hooks
for style rules. In other words, if there is something which you wish to
style, but there isn't
Thank you for clearing that up Mike and Noa, I appreciate it!
Gabriel
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Thanks Patrick
So there is no other way besides making an extra div just for images with
links? : Trying to prevent from creating more divs.
Best Wishes,
Jaime ...
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This new example is much cleaner code - less divs etc. However, it is hard
to tell if it is semantically correct without real content inside.
Some may disagree, but I would have to say at present it looks like it is
pushing the DL slightly more than it should as there does not seem to be a
direct
Hey Cameron,
that's exactly what I was thinking... where did the last 2 months go.
See you tonight.
woric
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Is the Melbourne
Cameron,
Yes, the meeting is tonight!
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Date: Sat, 1 May 2004 09:14:06 -0700 (PDT)
Is the Melbourne meeting really May 3? (like it says
on the web site) If so, it snuck up quick!
I see your point Russ.
I need to use it for something like:
dl
dtStatistics - Europe/dt
dd
pNumber of women for 100 men(1995):/p
ul
liEurope: 105 women for 100 men/li
liWorld: 98,6 women for 100 men/li
/ul
pPercentage of girls and boys of less than 15 years old
That site is admittedly terrible. It has no navigation on the frontpage in
Firefox for Win either
However, it is not indicative of all Australian government sites. I recently
discovered http://www.immi.gov.au when a client cited its previous design
(it has been redesigned to conform with the new
I begin teaching an introductory CSS course this week. The class material
is posted on my Web site:
http://members.aol.com/jbjtutor/css/ . I would welcome feedback of any sort
on any aspect of what you see, but I think that we should do this off-list.
So, if you take the time to look, please
A table would be perfectly semantically correct, and I dont see why it
would make a difference to the width, but if you want to do it table
free, I would prefer something like this:
hnStatistics - Europe/hn
dl
dtNumber of women for 100 men(1995):/dt
ddEurope: 105 women for 100
wouldnt you need to use the xml doctype if your using xml ?
or the xml prologue as its called.?
Heyas,
Still finding my feet with XHTML / CSS. I noticed that in Mozilla (well
through Eric Meyers new book) you can introduce your own tags (ie XML)
and basically in many ways can attach CSS
On Sun, 2004-05-02 at 23:55, Simon Jessey wrote:
Microsoft's dominant market position creates a condition where browser
enhancements and innovation are not very important.
Sorry I must disagree. These _are_ important, not just to designers, but
to all people who experience web pages on the
Of course, it all comes down to personal opinion!
What do others reckon?
I suppose it really depends on what is trying to be achieved.
To my way of thinking, the clean dtdd combination is more semantically
correct.
For me the ulli seem to throw the semantics out a little - moreso than
the p.
sorry, bit
late,
re my question of
any ideasof a way to make these browsers keep
the background image aligned hard left and not adversly affect anything else?
(on http://smh.com.au/)
and Justins alternative
ideas: Alternative
#1"attach the background image to something other than the
I'm back from my first vacation this year ( Ill be going again soon )
and I'm glad to see the list got along just find without me, so I'll
sit down and read all 544 WSG messages (14 days worth ) But don't
expect any replies because by now they are old news.
Leo
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