Re: [WSG] Accessible image rotators

2004-07-22 Thread Marc Greenstock
You could use a database, but if you just want a low maintainance method make a tab deliminated text file eg; image1.jpgThis is the first image image2.jpgThis is the second image image3.jpgThis is the thrid image Now of course the image names will reflect the images in your rotate

Re: [WSG] About the standard Price for our website design .

2004-07-22 Thread Andy Budd
What you charge depends on a whole range of factors but these are the main ones. - The local going rate - The type of clients you deal with - How good you are at what you do - Your overheads Obviously a large agency with flash premises in the Middle of London dealing with blue chip clients are

RE: [WSG] Accessible image rotators

2004-07-22 Thread Owen Gregory
Narain said: i am using a image rotator php script in the home page of the site. The problem will image rotator scripts either in PHP or Javascript is that, they rotate the images from a particular folder randomly. But when you validate, the image will not have alt tag or a title tag to

Re: [WSG] technique of converting to tablefree layout

2004-07-22 Thread Bryan Davis
I always code by hand and my editor of choice is NoteTab Pro (www.notetab.com). As well as Find and Replace it has a neat function which strips (X)HTML out of markup leaving just text and script excerpts etc. Having redesigned a couple of sites in this way, I have yet to trip it up. Bryan Davis

[WSG] Footer Positioning Problem in Mozilla Firefox and Opera

2004-07-22 Thread John Penlington
I'm rebuilding a gardening magazine site to web standards and assessibility - and I've almost got it working as I wish ... HTML is at: http://www.bluemountainsgardener.info/index-try.htm CSS is at: http://www.bluemountainsgardener.info/style-accessible.css No skip nav yet, but the layout

RE: [WSG] Footer Positioning Problem in Mozilla Firefox and Opera

2004-07-22 Thread Owen Gregory
John Penlington wrote: The text line in the footer lies just below the black footer, not within it. There's a positioning problem with the horizontal menu in the header. I'd like to know a way of reducing the gap below the headers in the infoboxes On the #footer p, try margin : 0; On the

Re: [WSG] Footer Positioning Problem in Mozilla Firefox and Opera

2004-07-22 Thread John Penlington
Many thanks, Owen, With your suggestions, all three problems fixed. You'll see the results at http://www.bluemountainsgardener.info/index-try.htm Your prompt response will help me sleep tonight (in Australia). Cheers, John Penlington - Original Message - From: Owen Gregory [EMAIL

Re: [WSG] Titles Acronyms Abbr etc

2004-07-22 Thread Justin French
On 21/07/2004, at 4:10 PM, Bert Doorn wrote: G'day Looks distinctly like a case of totally unnecessary to me but we have a difference of opinion in the office... Even if it was written as VDS, it would be an abbr(eviation): abbr title=Vent Door SystemsVDS/abbr Actually, VDS is an acronym of Vent

RE: [WSG] Titles Acronyms Abbr etc

2004-07-22 Thread Patrick Lauke
Gah...not this discussion again... Acronyms are a subset of abbreviations. All acronyms are abbreviations, but not all abbreviations are acronyms. Now, once it comes to defining what an acronym is, there's cultural/regional differences as well: some argue that acronyms need to be pronounceable,

[WSG] semantic way to mark up form help?

2004-07-22 Thread Justin French
Hi all, I'm trying to decide on a nice semantic way to mark-up a short (usually only a few words) block of help text in the context of a web form. I currently use a label to label the input, and a paragraph or div to mark-up the help text: form... div class='formitem' label

RE: [WSG] semantic way to mark up form help?

2004-07-22 Thread Owen Gregory
Justin wrote: I'm trying to decide on a nice semantic way to mark-up a short (usually only a few words) block of help text in the context of a web form. The label element can contain inline elements (like input /). So you can wrap it around the input in your example and perhaps remove the p

RE: [WSG] semantic way to mark up form help?

2004-07-22 Thread Ted Drake
Hi Justin I asked about this a couple weeks ago. You can put a title on the label. label for=arrivaldate title=Enter the day you plan on arriving to our lovely hotelArrival datelabel When the person puts their cursor over the label, they will get a box that pops up with your label. It's valid

RE: [WSG] semantic way to mark up form help?

2004-07-22 Thread Patrick Lauke
Maybe a slight stretch, but how about wrapping these related elements (label, input, etc) up in their own fieldset, and using the legend for that text (thus associating it with the (input and label within). form... fieldset legendThis is the title of your news post (does not accept HTML

RE: [WSG] semantic way to mark up form help?

2004-07-22 Thread Lee Roberts
Both Patrick and Ted made good suggestions. However, I'd prefer to see the page in question before making Patrick's suggestion. If the form is like some of mine, that simply won't work. The title option always works, but the user must know the title is there before it can help them. Your best

[WSG] [Fwd: New XHTML 2.0 draft, HTML/XHTML FAQ, XML Events for HTML Authors]

2004-07-22 Thread Brian Cummiskey
XHTML 2 draft is out. see below. -- Masayasu Ishikawa wrote: Hello, After long editorial work, finally the sixth public Working Draft of XHTML 2.0 is now available at: http://www.w3.org/TR/2004/WD-xhtml2-20040722 The HTML Working Group thanks

Re: [WSG] semantic way to mark up form help?

2004-07-22 Thread Steven . Faulkner
There are a number of things that need to be considered: 1. title attribute content is not accessible to users who cannot use a mouse (as the tool tip only appears on mouseover not onfocus) 2. the title attribute content is only available to a subset of screen reading software (latest versions of

Re: [WSG] semantic way to mark up form help?

2004-07-22 Thread James Ellis
Hi Ted, all Title attributes don't have to pop up in a tooltip, that's up to the user agent. I'd suggest you do something like this... label for=arrivaldateYour arrival date at Hotel WSGlabel Also, user of fieldsets allow to you to control the appearance of different parts of a form: fieldset

[WSG] Wierd spacing issue after floats

2004-07-22 Thread Seona Bellamy
Another question for all you clever folk in Standardsland, and I can't help but feel that the answer will probably be something really simple. I can't find it though. If you go to the link below, you will see that there is an odd space between the rows of tabs and the start of the content.

RE: [WSG] semantic way to mark up form help?

2004-07-22 Thread Ted Drake
Damn, Just when I thought I had a cool solution for adding titles to the labels Steven comes along and shoots a hole the size of Africa and Taiwan in my plan. I need some coffee... Ted -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2004

Re: [WSG] [Fwd: New XHTML 2.0 draft, HTML/XHTML FAQ, XML Events for HTML Authors]

2004-07-22 Thread Mordechai Peller
Brian Cummiskey wrote: XHTML 2 draft is out. -- Sixth public Working Draft of XHTML 2.0 is now available at: http://www.w3.org/TR/2004/WD-xhtml2-20040722 In many ways it is as if they went back to what HTML was meant to be, and improved

Re: [WSG] [Fwd: New XHTML 2.0 draft, HTML/XHTML FAQ, XML Events for HTML Authors]

2004-07-22 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
- Original Message - From: Mordechai Peller [...] The worst part of all this is it'll be years before we'll be able to use the new toys in any meaningful way. You could already use them server-side, then transform them to xhtml1.0 or 1.1 before serving them to the client, but

Re: [WSG] [Fwd: New XHTML 2.0 draft, HTML/XHTML FAQ, XML Events for HTML Authors]

2004-07-22 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
- Original Message - From: Mordechai Peller [...] While transforming from XHTML 1.0 or 1.1 is a trivial task, from XHTML 2 to even 1.1 is not so. In some cases there's no equivalent (di), in others there's more than one choice depending on the CSS (l = span, br, li, p). Yes, I'm

Re: [WSG] semantic way to mark up form help?

2004-07-22 Thread Justin French
Thanks to everyone for their input, especially Steven insight into the world of screen readers. My summation of all this is that the elements need to appear in this order: Label Text Extended help Input or widgets I really like the idea of wrapping the label tag around the whole lot, so that

[WSG] css and cms (elegant product sought)

2004-07-22 Thread Roly
a couple of questions, somewhat off topic Iwould like to capture an image of the the whole html pagei.e. what is not visible in the scroll region,so the image would capture something likean "800 x 3000" region to be printed in abrochure. I am lookingfor an elegantCMS tool which will

Re: [WSG] css and cms (elegant product sought)

2004-07-22 Thread mike
I would like to capture an image of the the whole html page i.e. what is not visible in the scroll region, so the image would capture something like an 800 x 3000 region to be printed in a brochure. SnagIt is very cool and worth the $40 http://www.techsmith.com/products/snagit/default.asp

Re: [WSG] css and cms (elegant product sought)

2004-07-22 Thread Steven . Faulkner
Xstandard is worth a look for using with browser based CMS http://xstandard.com/default.asp with regards Steven Faulkner Web Accessibility Consultant National Information Library Service (NILS) 454 Glenferrie Road Kooyong Victoria 3144 Phone: (613) 9864 9281 Fax: (613) 9864 9210 Email: [EMAIL

Re: [WSG] css and cms (elegant product sought)

2004-07-22 Thread Nick Gleitzman
On Friday, Jul 23, 2004, at 13:44 Australia/Sydney, Roly wrote: a couple of questions, somewhat off topic   I would like to capture an image of the the whole html page i.e.  what is not visible in the scroll region, so the image would capture something like an 800 x 3000 region to be printed in

RE: [WSG] semantic way to mark up form help?

2004-07-22 Thread Lee Roberts
First Labels should not wrap the input. The elements within the Label tag become the label. By wrapping the input with the Label you are stating the input is part of its own Label. That's wrong. Using heading tags for font declarations is poor form and fails to meet the standards. DIV is a