Hi there, 3 days I was stuck with a css form that the value in the
select group overlapping the next element.
http://clients.lotusseeds.com/contactus.html
My workaround is this:
http://clients.lotusseeds.com/contactus1.html
adding a class with margin-bottom
.break1 {
margin-bottom:
Hi Ted
Just so you are aware, background images are not read by screen readers so
if you are trying to make the site accessible you should ensure that there
is an alternate way of identifying the link as opening a new window.
(Informing the user of opening a new window is a Level AA issue but if
Hi all,
Sorry to ask a silly question, but is there a really good 'Fully Compliant' sample site I could see somewhere?
I am basically looking for a template, with associatedCSS files etc, that I could have a really good look at to see how it works rather thanread through stacks of rules.
One of the best fully compliant sites I have seen is:
http://www.homestarrunner.com/sbsite/
There is a detailed tutorial here:
http://www.homestarrunner.com/sbemail51.html
:)
Russ
Hi all,
Sorry to ask a silly question, but is there a really good 'Fully Compliant'
sample site I could see
One of the best fully compliant sites I have seen is:http://www.homestarrunner.com/sbsite/
There is a detailed tutorial here:http://www.homestarrunner.com/sbemail51.html
Fantastic!!! :D
This one is much
better:
http://j-walk.com/other/todd/aboutme.htm
The web designer has a site
too:
http://j-walk.com/other/myrtle/index.htm
Simon :)
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From:
russ -
maxdesign
To: Web Standards Group
Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2005 8:55
AM
russ - maxdesign wrote:
One of the best fully compliant sites I have seen is:
http://www.homestarrunner.com/sbsite/
hehe- classic :p
Hi all,
Sorry to ask a silly question, but is there a really good 'Fully Compliant'
sample site I could see somewhere?
try csszengarden.com
Gian brings up an interesting point, Instead of using a background image,
insert the image that represents an open window instead. Place text in the
alt attribute that specifies the window will open in a new window.
I think I can go one step better.
The image you are using is still
Sorry Ted two things:
1. No JavaScript will cause no new window to open AND the title will still be
there.
2. Display:none on the span helps no one. Screen readers only ignore
display:none on form controls.
It would be better to write the whole thing as a JavaScript routine, complete
with
On Aug 31, 2005, at 4:37 PM, Drake, Ted C. wrote:
The summary is at: http://www.tdrake.net, but it is about opening new
windows for pdf files.
For a summary of microformats, visit http://microformats.org/
...
From: Chris Kennon
Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 4:25 PM
To:
Hi
I have been seeing this thing quite a bit lately, where in one of the
content columns there are tabs - check out this site:
http://www.miavanloon.be/huifkartochten/essen/
I was wondering if there was some special trick they were using like an
I-frame so that they wouldn't have to have three
Hi all :o)
Have a client whose text size in IE is set to Largest (like my Dad).
Just wondering if anyone knows of a resource out there that maps out the
percentage of users that:
a) know about View Text Size, and
b) actually change it and if so, to what?
Any help would be good and, I
I've been doing usability tests and user research for years and yesterday was
the first
time I ever saw someone change the font in a usability test - everyone else
just leans
forward and squints. I'd estimate 5% of people I have interviewed use a font
other than
the default.
I've never seen
Thanks Donna - Nice to hear from a
usability professional.
I guess this raises the question:
If we're all going hell-for-leather making fluid siteswith relative fonts
for increased usability / accessibility and no one knows about it or how to use
it, then:
a) Is it worth the effort?
Hey WSG. I'm asking for help. Please respond directly to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] .
FIRST
Need to tell people about:
http://www.familymessages.org/index.php
There are many different such things, but we need to pick one,
and this is the one I've been flogging, and it's
I'm not sure if it's the designer/developers domain to educate people on
how to use their browsers, we should focus more on removing barriers to
content.
kind regards
Terrence Wood.
Richard Czeiger said:
Now.. 6. Change Text Size
Seems a bit like overkill, no?
Hi Terrence,
I agree that its not our domain,
but I don't think that makes us completely free of responsibility.
Additionally, if no one knows about
it - why bother. Shouldn't I just go back to to pixel-perfect font
control.
Yourphrase 'removing barriers
to content' got me thinking... The
Yes, it is still worth it because those people who do know really, really
appreciate it.
They *hate* it when a site doesn't allow them to resize the font. Those who
I've spoken
with have a much stronger attachment to sites that work for them, which should
be
important to all clients.
I've
Hey Donna :o)
Geeky, huh? Very well.
The Accessibility Statement is
fairly generic (an example is here www.aidgc.com.au/accessibility.html ) and is based on an amanlgamation of various
guru's and government's access pages. So the geek factor is probably high, but
for politeness I'll refer
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I found this technique to spark my interest and curiosity as well,
and wondered how it's done. Here's another example that's quite
impressive: http://www.planwell.com/
Nice design...
They use CSS + JS
http://www.planwell.com/_lib/js/utilities.js
Look for CHANGE
On 2/9/05 11:08 AM, Terrence Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm not sure if it's the designer/developers domain to educate people on
how to use their browsers, we should focus more on removing barriers to
content.
If text-resize icons (such as a small A and a big A) were by default in a
Yep this is nice design, however each of the tabs has different content,
unlike the other site I mentioned
http://www.miavanloon.be/huifkartochten/essen/ which has tabbed content
actually within the page. I wonder if they have several versions of the
page that loads up with each tab. Seems
Helen Rysavy wrote
I wonder if they
have several versions of the
page that loads up with each tab
I would say that the page content is database fed. The selection of the tab
simply determines what data is selected from the database for display. While
the pages are _individual_ in as far as
On 2 Sep 2005, at 9:39 am, Donna Maurer wrote:
I've been doing usability tests and user research for years and
yesterday was the first
time I ever saw someone change the font in a usability test - everyone
else just leans
forward and squints. I'd estimate 5% of people I have interviewed use
I like the idea of a 'friendly' accessibility page. ve got these 'footer
pages' that I basically copy across sites instead of thinkingn up new
content all the time. My only concern in rewriting this is that some of my
clients prefer very formal language for their sites.
Maybe its a case of
Ahah. That's interesting. My guess about the difference between my observations
and
yours is that the helpful staff at Kinkos at some point showed them how to do
it ;) You
only need to be shown once.
Donna
On 2 Sep 2005 at 11:54, Philippe Wittenbergh wrote:
We used to have a Kinkos shop in
It alleviates the problem, but realistically I still think designers are better off using relative units
Just as a matter of clarification: pixels *are* a relative unithttp://www.w3.org/TR/REC-CSS2/syndata.html#length-units
However, they're relative to the screen resolution, rather than
Excellent tutorials on how it is done:
http://www.sitepoint.com/article/structural-markup-_javascript_ by Simon Willison
http://www.bobbyvandersluis.com/articles/unobtrusiveshowhide.php by Bobby van der Sluis
Cheers, Irina.
www.ssw.com.au
G'day
unlike the other site I mentioned
http://www.miavanloon.be/huifkartochten/essen/ which has tabbed content
actually within the page.
It may appear that way, but unless I'm missing something, there are 3
different pages:
1. There is a delay (loading a new page) when clicking on a
I understand what you're saying, but I'm convinced you can use simple
language and still sound professional... I'd take up Donna's offer to
rewrite it for you =)
kind regards
Terrence Wood.
Richard Czeiger said:
I like the idea of a 'friendly' accessibility pageMy only concern
in rewriting
Hiya
Seems like doubling up. I just read this article on sitepoint - Panel
Switching...
http://www.sitepoint.com/article/structural-markup-javascript/2
Looks like it can be achieved with JavaScript
Cheers
Here that, Donna?
You've been nominated!
I await your masterwork
:oP
R
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From: "Terrence
Wood" I'd
take up Donna's offer to rewrite it for you =)
Hope Stewart wrote:
Safari gives you the option of adding text-resize icons to tool bar.
Win/IE does too, at least IE6 does... I used to have it there in my PC days. :-)
I agree this seems like a good way to let people know this function is
available.
Vicki. :-)
--
Vicki Berry
Hi,
i'm testing some fonts in a new design, and I want to know is if it safe
to use the System font value.
In the character map (WinXP), the System font doesnt show any icon (nor
the T nor the O ring).
The System font is the one that usually is displayed when your (old)
computer runs out of
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thanks.. that makes sense. Bummer, I was hoping for a non db
solution :)
You have another option if you just want to be able to share the same
content across pages:
SS-Includes...
Thierry | www.TJKDesign.com
**
How about if we all designated a single page to link to which clearly
explains how to change the text size in different browsers?
In response to Terrence isn't not being able to read the content constitute
a barrier and therefore wouldn't showing users how to make the content
readable be removing
On Fri, 2 Sep 2005 13:50:30 +1000, Richard Czeiger wrote:
Hear that, Donna?
You've been nominated!
I await your masterwork :oP
But I can't work for free!! she says, quite rightly.
Here's your payment says I, Write the statement up and put it on
your website. Label it The Perfect
Brilliant idea! I can stop being the card sorting queen and become the
accessibility
statement queen.
But first I probably should finish the three client reports I'm currently
working on
(which is why I've been so distractable today). You know, bird in the hand and
all
that ;)
Donna
On 2
I thinkeveryone's put forward
excellent arguments, thus far.
It's important to remember that a
lot of the time the 'why are we doing this' questions get asked because we're
after a reasonable justification for both ourselves and our clients. I don't
think it's enough to do something purely
Vicki Berry wrote:
Hope Stewart wrote:
Safari gives you the option of adding text-resize icons to tool bar.
Win/IE does too, at least IE6 does... I used to have it there in my PC days.
:-)
IIRC, it was there by default in IE4. IE5 has it like IE6. Every doze
machine I touch that
Julián Landerreche wrote:
i'm testing some fonts in a new design, and I want to know is if it safe
to use the System font value.
In the character map (WinXP), the System font doesnt show any icon (nor
the T nor the O ring).
The System font is the one that usually is displayed when your
So what other pages should go here...
How about a 'Why doesn't the site work in my browser' page, somewhere to
advocate the use of modern, standards compliant browsers. Maybe then users
would have a good reason to move away from non-compliant browsers, and
designers/developers would be rid of
Ummm, if you were a developer would you put a link on your non-standards
compliant site pointing to a page that tells the user why your site is
bad
R (either confused or not catching sarcasm on a Friday afternoon)
- Original Message -
From: Scott Swabey - Lafinboy Productions
I think what Scott meant was to display information for those people that
use old browsers which do not display Web Standards Compliant pages
properly.
So you create a web standards compliant site, but users with Netscape 4 can
go and read why this site doesn't work in their browser.
I am not
From: Richard Czeiger
Ummm, if you were a developer would you put a link on your
non-standards
compliant site pointing to a page that tells the user why
your site is
bad
R (either confused or not catching sarcasm on a Friday afternoon)
I think confused.
I took this to mean
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