Is there a transcript of that podcast for those of us who ARE Deaf?
Leslie Riggs
ABC's Radio National Late Night Live program has produced a really
insightful interview about Deafness. I think it's well worth a listen and
might give you a good insight into deaf culture and the medical model
- and there is no Alt text. Blind people do shop :-).
There are varying degrees of blindness, too, so someone looking at one
of those images may go, Oh, wait, is that a red jumper or a parka?
Alt text can help in that respect, if the user has a good text-to-speech
tool installed.
Leslie Riggs
clarification of this concept.
Leslie Riggs
Maybe, but if a site that is XHTML served as text/html were actually
served correctly as application-type/xhtml+xml, any validation errors
would cause the site to STOP working entirely. So this kind of can't
win them all attitude is okay when we
If you already have the toolbar installed, won't you get it via check
for updates? That's how I found it.
Leslie Riggs
Chris Pendrick recently released Web Developer Extension 1.0.
http://chrispederick.com/work/webdeveloper/
He has fixed some bugs, added some features, and changed some
You see, THAT is the best thing I learnt in 2005 - that there are always
more things to learn!
Just getting my toes wet in microformats, and understanding a bit more
about XHTML...
Leslie Riggs
Christopher,
+ getting into microformats
I guess I missed something along the way. Where
of it. Pages load faster thanks to smaller file sizes, and
site visitors notice that. There are other benefits, but those were
what convinced me.
Leslie Riggs
None of those. I just mentioned that I was unable to convice my
friend to change his ways and his strongest reason not to was his
We are hoping to have this available online as a Quicktime file soon.
When it is, it's definitely worth showing to people. Jonathan is a
wonderful speaker and funny speaker, and I guarantee that no one will
see his presentation and go away feeling the same about accessibility!
Mike
for Web
Cingular: Nice job, but not valid - 59 errors in XHTML and an error in
the CSS.
Verizon Wireless: Again, nice job, but 49 errors in XHTML, an error in
the CSS.
They'll get there...
Leslie Riggs
I don't know how long ago they made their switch. Looks like companies are
starting to see how
to the item than when
additional menu choices fly out to the side (with multiple choices
listed vertically), which is a bit jarring. It's also less effort than
to try to keep the mouse within the hot spot to navigate sideways,
then down to the desired link.
Leslie Riggs
Hope that helps
All in how each person views it, I suppose. My (not) hearing *is* normal...
For me, the humiliation lies in the obvious misperceptions of people I
meet every day - it's amazing what people will assume you can't do,
simply because you don't have or use a particular physical feature.
To bring
It's an uphill battle. Accessibility is a hot topic these days, but
online streamed video and audio access by way of captioning or
subtitling for the Deaf / hard of hearing is very poorly implemented.
Even the big sites crowing about how their websites meet and even exceed
accessibility
Beautiful! It's just that the banner ad is rather jarring in its
present location. Anything you can do about that? When I see
salmonrecipes.com with the ad right next to it, it's a bit confusing.
Others have given you just the input I would have given. Obviously you
put a lot of thought
And now, I'd like to turn the question around and ask everyone on
this list what they'd like to see from the DSTF.
How much JavaScript do you know?
Minimal. I can read it enough to understand what a script is doing but
I haven't written JavaScript from scratch yet.
What kind of things
The content is what's important - and I'll send a token of sincere
appreciation to those who go do the extra work of captioning the
presentation. :)
Leslie Riggs
If all goes to plan (and it has so far), this tuesday's Brisbane WSG
meeting will be filmed with the intention of offering it up
Then there's this one Deaf WSG member who's gonna ask for some kind of
captioning/subtitling of the video/audio...
Leslie Riggs
I live in eastern US. Much as I would love to visit Austrailia, it is
out of the question for now at least.
I think some sort of video of your events would
You have a number of validation errors per the W3C HTML validator;
perhaps start with clearing those up? One of the errors mentions trying
to use src with the embed tag...
Leslie Riggs
Hello to All,
I have a slight issue that is driving me batty. I am unable to get my
flash/shockwave
You've got a lot of validation issues. Over 180 errors, including XHTML
markup while using an HTML 4.01 Transitional DTD.
I think you need to decide if you want to follow that DTD or switch to
an XHTML DTD.
Leslie Riggs
actually i'm having a problem in my project, I have to have category
I notice that I forgot to include a link to the page with the problem.
My apologies - here it is:
http://www.theonlineworks.com/test/dhha/home4.html
Bob, I didn't put in the code you suggested yet. I did try it locally.
IE6 STUBBORNLY refuses to show the Flash. The above link will take
Thanks heaps, Patrick. That did the trick. I'd completely overlooked
that the param name had to be movie.
It validates! It WORKS! Thank you again.
Leslie Riggs
You have an error in your markup. Try changing
param name=top_dhha
value=flash/cont_dhha.swf?path=flash/top_dhha.swf
this, that's what happens,
but it's only a split second, then the flash loads. Probably the file
takes just that wee extra time to load and IE likes to wait till it's
all there before it runs the Flash.
Leslie Riggs
I'm confused as to what is happening here. Will someone please try the
opening
attribute
being defined, and if I'm going to define cols then there's no purpose
for the width in the CSS, is there? Does this have to do with being
able to enter text beyond that CSS-defined width?
Thanks for your enlightenment...
Leslie Riggs
I'm with Ben on this one. I learned loads after installing Firefox and
adding the validator and developer toolbar. I went to different sites
and ran them through the validator, saw the errors (or not) and learned
about how to and how not to code to standards.
Leslie Riggs
Keep them
% of the screen
width...could cols, set at 80, break that layout or will it still render
acceptably?
I am just respectfully asking for help in understanding why cols is
required by the W3C standard if a width attribute could be set in CSS
for textarea.
Thanks,
Leslie Riggs
cols is used
Isn't the default 80 columns?
Leslie Riggs
What I want to understand is why is cols required by the W3C standard,
if the width can be defined in CSS?
The way I find it easiest to explain is to think about what happens if
CSS was to be disabled in the browser, or the browser
Colorschemer Studio isn't free, but it's not real expensive either, and
it does a very nice job with several options of color scheme selections,
such as monochromatic, triad, tetrad, analogous, etc. Very visual, and
schemes can be saved for use later.
http://www.colorschemer.com
Leslie
You
compliant and clean, so it's a good start.
Leslie Riggs
Hi
I've got a 3-column layout, with dropdown menus, here:
http://home.vicnet.net.au/~persia/final/test.html
The left right cols are floated. This seems to work ok in IE, Moz Firefox on PC
and Moz NN7 on Mac. Safari doesn't like it, however
in the right direction, I would be very much obliged.
Thanks.
Leslie Riggs
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Thanks, Michael,
Where do I find that information, so I can back up the assertion when I
talk with the hosting provider?
Thank you!
Leslie Riggs
This is because your webserver is outputting:
Content-Type: text/plain
and not:
Content-Type: text/css
For your CSS file.
IE doesn't care, but most
Thanks to all - the hosting provider confirmed that the web server was
incorrectly configured; it's an older one. The site will go live on a
newer, properly configured server.
I can now sleep happythanks again, everyone.
Leslie Riggs
scott parsons wrote:
The easy answer is that your server
Out of curiosity, I'm wondering why the xml prolog is there in the
document when the page is being served as text/html?
I'm still pretty new to this, so I'm happy to learn and understand
Leslie Riggs
Hi,
I have valid XHTML
http://idealcouple.com/
http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F
I think you pretty much answered your own question already. :)
Leslie Riggs
I am just about to complete a new site for a client, and I have coded
it according to XHTML 1.0 strict guidelines. I am also using validated
CSS. Do you think it is worth displaying the W3C compliance logos
,
thanks, we'll look into it.
We have a long, long way to go to achieve true accessibility in the
world. Even I have much to learn and more to do...
So, what do we do here? How accessible should we be, to achieve the ideal?
Leslie Riggs
I'm wishing we could have something like that in my neck of the woods...
Leslie in NE Wisconsin, midwestern USA
Web Essentials will definitely be on again. Russ, Peter Maxine and I
are working hard to put together an even better event this year.
Best. News. Ever (well, not quite, but close ;)
hung up on this issue right now.
If anyone can help, I'd be s thankful.
Leslie Riggs
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Thank you!!
That is a really bizarre quirk, even more so that it works without
rendering issues popping up in the other browsers.
I shall sleep much better tonight, and have a good report for the client
in the morning. Is this a Gecko bug, I wonder?
Thanks again.
Leslie Riggs
Hi Leslie
Your
:
http://www.theonlineworks.com/test/wiscrad/css/mainstyles.css
Validated XHTML 1.1, CSS validated too. I probably have been deep into this
so long I can't see the problem.. Any suggestions will be deeply
appreciated.
Leslie Riggs
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is here:
http://www.theonlineworks.com/test/wiscrad/css/mainstyles.css
Validated XHTML 1.1, CSS validated too. I probably have been deep into
this so long I can't see the problem.. Any suggestions will be deeply
appreciated.
Leslie Riggs
Sometimes simply clearing my browser cache does the trick for me -
although I'm sure you've already tried this.
Leslie Riggs
I can't figure out what can be causing the problem, because it doesn't
work with any of my friends computers either...
this is so weird...
Juha-Markku
That site works fine in IE6, but in my FF 1.0 on WinXP SP2, instructions
don't appear, etc. Doesn't work in FF, in other words.
It's awesome, but you have to use it with IE.
Leslie
In case anyone missed it, http://www.wire-man.com/paletteman/ is nice
too.
Tom
selectors you
can use, so hopefully you find those helpful.
Leslie Riggs
I do have one set of head, body and html tags.
I have validated my CSS and HTML.
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Maybe I'm not fully understanding your question, but what about having a
class (call it pub or whatever) and then defining font-style: italic
in the CSS?
Leslie Riggs
SEMANTIC MARKUP FOR PUBLICATION TITLES
In print the name of a publication is typically type-set in an oblique
or italic font
Now THIS is what makes designing with CSS fun!! I just love this.
Leslie Riggs
http://www.csszengarden.com/?cssfile=http://www.css-praxis.de/cssocean/zenoc
ean.css
Make sure you look in a good browser and scroll down!
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Well, I noticed a wee thing, maybe it doesn't matter and maybe it does:
html xmlns=http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml; xml:lang=en *lang=em*
Maybe by tweaking that to read lang=en will fix something?
hope it helps,
Leslie Riggs
Hey all,
I'm still fairly new to CSS and wanted to validate my CSS before
to
your problem.
Another suggestion is to develop for Netscape/Mozilla/Opera first, then
tweak for IE. The reason for this is because IE's flawed box model
(among other things) needs to be compensated for, while the other
browsers are much more Web standards compliant.
Leslie Riggs
i
Using FF1.0 on a WinME machine, it doesn't render - I see the code instead.
Same result with FF1.0 on XP SP2.
Leslie Riggs
A friend of mine came across this site yesterday and when he accessed it
with Firefox he got nothing but code on the screen.
http://www.ceinternet.com.au/site/index.htm
I
did update my QuickTime before playing the
movie, though, to make sure I had the latest version.
How hard was it to caption, Patrick? Is it real time-consuming? Would
it be something doable for each of the presentations that are filmed?
(a delighted and thankful) Leslie Riggs
Patrick H. Lauke
IN the video - ohhh, just the
very thought of it thrills me... thud Ugh, that was me coming back to
terra firma.
Leslie Riggs
Not sure if it's been mentioned on the list already, but Zeldman's
video keynote for WE04 is available online.
http://www.happycog.com/mov/
(although crikey, that 9MB file
does an enormous,
incalculable service for Deaf and hard of hearing professionals like
me. We get to smile, laugh, and ponder right along with everyone else,
instead of a few seconds later.
Leslie Riggs
Leslie,
I'm trying to figure out if you were being serious, or just sarcastic
impairments. Captioned/subtitled media on the Web is
hugely popular with Deaf and hard of hearing people, because it's
real-time information in a visual form.
Leslie Riggs
Now you've got me thinking. Is there anything similar to the Talking
Newspapers service for internet content? Should
Looks sharp - but doesn't validate. No doctype?? Oh, wait...it's
further down the page, should be right up top before anything else.
Otherwise the validator defaults to HTML 4.01 Transitional, and with
that you have some invalid markup to fix.
Leslie Riggs
Bennie Shepherd wrote:
I would
I went to the page by clicking your link, using FF, clicked on the
Validator tab in the Web Developer toolbar. Is there a glitch with that
tab?
Leslie Riggs
Bennie Shepherd wrote:
The doc type is at the top of the page and the site validates xhtml
strict.
Are you sure you validated the right
Boy, that was a GOOD question! I was all set to start a new project -
this saves me some big headaches with my client!
Leslie Riggs
Jeremy Keith wrote:
Shane Helm asked:
I am about to start a project that I am going to use CSS drop-down
menus at the very top of the web page. Directly below
Greetings
Any idea how to create a circle menu that fit the whole screen with
html/css only ??
Do you have an example? Perhaps a site that demonstrates what you're
trying to do?
Leslie Riggs
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}
The a:active will be what determines how the link looks when a user is
on that page.
It looks like you were trying to define classes for the links? The
colon is used with pseudoclasses as in the info I gave you above.
HTH,
Leslie Riggs
john wrote:
Isabel,
Forgive me, but could you please clarify your
So, where's the link? :)
Leslie Riggs
Olajide Olaolorun wrote:
Hi guys, well I just wanted your feedback to a church website that I
was making. Though it still has some bugs, probably not much on IE5
please help me check it out
Also it is supposed to be avlid CSS and XHTML but I haven't
what your code produces in IE and Mozilla. No more
fighting with the program just to get what I want out of it - at last, a
tool that lets me concentrate on what I'm trying to accomplish. Just a
delight to use.
Leslie Riggs
jEdit:
http://www.jedit.org/
...and be sure to check out the recommended
Am I glad to hear that. I test-drove XStandard, but my browser of
choice is FF 0.9. I didn't like being forced to use IE, so that lasted
about 10 minutes and I uninstalled XStandard. Otherwise it's a great
tool. It's nice to know there will be an Active X-free version out soon.
Leslie
O, do I second that emotion!!! So many of us just can't get there,
and this is invaluable information for us to learn.
Leslie Riggs
Nancy Johnson wrote:
Can his speech be put on your website in some form?
Nancy
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED
Got the URL of your site?
If the validator is telling you there's an issue with the code generated
by Menu Machine, then I'd guess that Menu Machine does not generate
standards compliant code?
Leslie
Tricia Fitzgerald wrote:
Hello ~ I am new to css layout design and just recently completed a
Table-less just means tables aren't used for layout. When used to
contain tabular data, that's not layout, that's containing data that
SHOULD be in a table.
JMHO.
Leslie Riggs
What about http://www.sitepoint.com ?
That's as complicated a structure as any I've seen, and almost
completely
I simply set up a filter for his messages - I'll take the filter back
off after 14 August.
Leslie
Ted Drake wrote:
Is there anything we can do to keep the ikon messages contained for the next 2 weeks?
He may be on a holiday, but he'll wish he wasn't when he gets back after two weeks of
these
sion 5 and you'll get a free upgrade to
version 6.
http://www.visicommedia.com
Leslie Riggs
| What CSS/XHTML/HTML editors do you guys use for hand coding and
testing?
I can hardly wait to see the notes! I'm very interested in the topic.
Leslie in the USA
Presentation notes will be online for out-of-Sydney members soon after the
event.
Thanks
Russ
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Well, darn. Is there something like that in the US anywhere?
I like the concept.
Leslie
Sorry folks. Somehow I managed to send this to the wrong mailing list :-(
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First off, try validating your site - when I ran the W3C HTML validator
it came back NOT valid XHTML 1.1 and there were three errors.
Second, although you've got a style sheet, your layout is still
controlled by tables?
I would look at those first before trying to fix the white line issue.
quote
Stop! Before you do anything, the most important thing you can
do for your learning process is accept that a) it¹s going to take
time, and b) you will be frustrated along the way. /quote
Been there and I do agree in principle - I like compact code
that makes
sense. But if
Hi Teresa,
Good going! Unfortunately, we can't evaluate your site if you don't
give a URL ;)
Leslie Riggs
I have recently redesigned my business web site using CSS. I was
looking for some feedback.
The biggest obstacle I ran into was on the about us Page. I am
wondering if I
I've used http://www.zvon.org and checked their reference pages for CSS
and CSS2. Very helpful, with examples to demonstrate.
Leslie
http://www.w3schools.com/css/css_reference.asp
This one comes in handy personally. Or try Google for any
specific CSS tgs
or attributes.
- Darian
that contain streaming
audio/video.
If only I could get to Sydney...but it is not to be.
Thanks for the information, Russ.
Leslie Riggs
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job.
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