RE: [WSG] Pipe separated lists

2005-12-13 Thread Townson, Chris
Chris Townson wrote: >> >> what a list looks like or how you want a list to look are >> irrelevant in the >> context of this debate. >> >> also irrelevant is whether the pipe or vertical bar has >> accrued implied or >> associated meaning through (ab)use. >> >> semantic mark-up is about utilisi

RE: [WSG] Pipe separated lists (was: CSS foul-up in IE)

2005-12-12 Thread Townson, Chris
> And what does a list really look like? > Which of the following is more correct: > > My favourite fruits are watermelon, apples and bananas. > > My favourite fruits are: > * watermelon > * apples > * bananas > > Answer: neither. They are both lists and both mean the same. wh

RE: [WSG] UDM navigation issues with standards and validity

2005-11-15 Thread Townson, Chris
> I need some information on UDM (http://www.udm4.com/) navigation > as a web standard navigation. The reason I am looking into this > is the need to resolve issues with drop-down menus go behind > field in IE. As some of us knows that there are > inherent flaws/problems with IE & Window controls

RE: [WSG] Styling legends and fieldsets

2005-10-20 Thread Townson, Chris
>> On 10/19/05, Mike Brown wrote: >> This really is a rhetorical question born of frustration... >> It would certainly help in producing accessible forms if we didn't >> have to say, "we can use legend and be properly accessible, or we can >> use heading and be able to place it where we want, but

RE: [WSG] Placement of company logo

2005-10-11 Thread Townson, Chris
> So shall we get rid of IMG element altogether? now, there's an idea ;) get rid of too whilst we're about it! :D [... starts e-mail to w3c ...] seriously: your page (http://decaffeinated.org/archives/2005/09/27/logo) does provide an example of use of which can't really be argued with: the subj

RE: [WSG] Placement of company logo

2005-10-11 Thread Townson, Chris
> Rimantas Liubertas wrote: > Some illustration: http://decaffeinated.org/archives/2005/09/27/logo level twolink Silhouette Take a look at the eight logos below; I'm betting you're familiar with every one of them. Even if, at first glance, you're a little unsure about a couple, hovering over

RE: [WSG] Placement of company logo

2005-10-11 Thread Townson, Chris
> Patrick Lauke wrote: > I would argue ... that a logo ... is more than just a visual representation of text, in the same way that a head and shoulders passport photo of a person is not just a visual representation of the person's name Yes - I agree absolutely ... although my full length response

RE: [WSG] Placement of company logo

2005-10-11 Thread Townson, Chris
> Paul Sturgess wrote: > How about this approach, no need for the company name to show twice: > > > > Personally I like the logo to show with styles off and if the user has images > off then the alt tag provides the text. I would be interested to know how > people markup their company logo that d

RE: [WSG] Placement of company logo

2005-10-10 Thread Townson, Chris
>> This would be due to the point about indexicality I mentioned. > This would be the point where I'd say the whole discussion on semantics risks > disappearing up it own behind...no offense. none taken :D > "You want to do web design, eh? Well, get onto the semiotics and linguistics > course fo

RE: [WSG] Placement of company logo

2005-10-10 Thread Townson, Chris
>> Chris Townson wrote: >> b) You always have a sensible H1 for which all H2s are genuine >> subheadings. > Patrick H. Lauke wrote > and what, is not genuine"? Semantically, I would say: "No, its not" This would be due to the point about indexicality I mentioned. Let me put it another way: -

RE: [WSG] Placement of company logo

2005-10-10 Thread Townson, Chris
I know we live in commercial, capitalist times ;) ... however, I cannot agree that a company logo is page content (that warrants a presence in the HTML) in the true sense: a logo is essentially 'indexical': it depends for its meaning upon some other entity (the company) and the context within whic

RE: [WSG] avoid Verdana -> I cant get the whole point.

2005-10-07 Thread Townson, Chris
Mugur Padurean wrote: > It may be useful for some of you guys to know that on some > major Linux distros ( Fedora, Debian, Slackware) in all > browsers available through the KDE or > Gnome fonts appear > to be rendered slightly bigger than on WIN. Up to 5 % bigger By default, X on my SUSE machi

RE: [WSG] search engine question

2005-05-16 Thread Townson, Chris
You may also be interested in this: http://udm4.com/ 1 html list (no excessively long, non-accessible navigation lists at top of page) + dhtml submenus. Without Javascript, you just get the top list. Appearance controlled by CSS. Well worth a look. Chris -Original Message- From: [EMAIL

[WSG] Standards-compliant reader poll software

2005-05-04 Thread Townson, Chris
Hi - I'm looking for a good (i.e. standards-compliant) piece of software for generating/administering "reader polls". I was wondering whether anyone out there has had any particularly good or bad experiences that they would be prepared to share, so I know where to look and where to avoid! Specific

RE: [WSG] new mycareer.com.au design

2005-04-27 Thread Townson, Chris
On a quick inspection of the code, it looks great! Congratulations. Far and away the best jobs site I've seen, from a standards point of view.   One point: I noticed that a number of the form element labels lacked the for="" attribute to associate them with the appropriate input.   I would l

RE: [WSG] Problem with floating heights

2005-04-15 Thread Townson, Chris
Hi Adam, Because floated elements are effectively removed from the flow of the document, Firefox and Opera are (quite correctly) collapsing the height of the containing div: it will only expand to the height of any non-flated elements it contains. Ironically enough, the solution to this is to use

RE: [WSG] Web standards as a selling point?

2005-04-12 Thread Townson, Chris
unfortunately (from the developer's perspective), it's all about spin and word-usage - which many techies tend not to be very good at.   Between developers, web standards and accessibility can be called exactly that. However, with clients (or non-technical personnel), their eyes glaze over a

RE: [WSG] usage of new entities in dtd's

2005-04-08 Thread Townson, Chris
In both Mozilla and Opera, I found that what was crucial was that the server (Apache, in this instance) was configured to deliver the file as application/xhtml+xml (+ being well formed, of course). Merely setting this in the document head was not sufficient. Thus, tidying up the code and add

RE: [WSG] CSS Document layout/structure

2005-04-07 Thread Townson, Chris
This is a very interesting topic. As someone who has to write CSS for others (both colleagues in the development team and others who know very little about CSS), I have started to adopt a pseudo-"object-oriented" approach to writing stylesheets. First, I split the pages I have to code into smaller