Re: [WSG] Help - newbie text editors

2005-01-21 Thread Bryan
BB does XHTML, PHP, CSS etc.. built in FTP, HTML Tidy, FTP etc... You name it, it's got it. I use one called Editpad Pro. It has downloadable syntax for a number of different languages, a dictionary, tabs which allow you to work on multiple items at once, a project feature that allows to save

RE: [WSG] Help - newbie text editors

2005-01-21 Thread Karl Brightman
@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Help - newbie text editors BB does XHTML, PHP, CSS etc.. built in FTP, HTML Tidy, FTP etc... You name it, it's got it. I use one called Editpad Pro. It has downloadable syntax for a number of different languages, a dictionary, tabs which allow you to work

Re: [WSG] Help - newbie

2005-01-20 Thread Chris Stratford
Glad to help! It honestly is the best ever coder I have used. It is true that for Server Side Scripting - it isn't as helpful as it is for HTML. But is is really advanced in that, when you have a document - for example a PHP document, like below: ? php php php php php php php php php php

Re: [WSG] Help - newbie

2005-01-20 Thread Jason Foss
I haven't even heard of TSW coder before - but it looks pretty good. The built-in code validators look really handy - especially for bug-hunting. Thanks for the link! On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 20:35:31 +1100, Chris Stratford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Glad to help! It honestly is the best ever

Re: [WSG] Help - newbie

2005-01-20 Thread Chris Stratford
No Problemo Jason! The code validator is odd, when you click on a HTML element in the source, it will show up in the status bar if its valid etc as well. I havn't really used the validators much, but i know they are there because before I wrote up teh little snippet, i was looking through the

Re: [WSG] Help - newbie

2005-01-20 Thread Alan Trick
Actually that's nothing new. Many of the better editors will do that. The reasons I switched were 1) I was using PHP and so many of the nice things like the built in HTML/CSS Validator. 2) Besides syntax highlighting, it doesn't really support PHP (as in being able to parse it on the fly)

Re: [WSG] Help - newbie

2005-01-20 Thread Chris Stratford
Sorry going to have to stop you there again... Alan Trick wrote: 1) I was using PHP and so many of the nice things like the built in HTML/CSS Validator. I dont get what that means...??? Maybe you mean its redundant? Maybe so, but its a feature never the less... 2) Besides syntax highlighting,

Re: [WSG] Help - newbie

2005-01-20 Thread Kevin Futter
Even Dreamweaver's code editing mode does this (context-sensitive syntax highlighting). There's been a good deal of derogatory commentary about Dreamweaver recently, but as a web IDE I think it's fantastic. Where people get into trouble is by relying solely on WYSIWYG mode. I rarely use WYSIWYG

[WSG] Help - newbie text editors

2005-01-20 Thread Erwin Heiser
Hi all, First of all, It¹s always you writing the code, not the program ;-) Anyway on the Macintosh these editors rock: BBEdit: see http://www.barebones.com/index.shtml Not cheap, but worth every penny IMHO, Textwrangler is now a free download as an alternative. BB does XHTML, PHP, CSS etc..

[WSG] Help - newbie

2005-01-19 Thread Paul
Title: Message I have been writing html code for awhile now and and starting to realize how inaccessible and non-web compliant my pages are. I have always hand written code in Edit Plus 2, is there a better editor I can use for web standards ( like Dreamweaver MX ? ) and where should I

Re: [WSG] Help - newbie

2005-01-19 Thread David Laakso
On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 10:05:03 -0330, Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have been writing html code for awhile now and and starting to realize how inaccessible and non-web compliant my pages are. I have always hand written code in Edit Plus 2, is there a better editor I can use for web standards (

Re: [WSG] Help - newbie

2005-01-19 Thread JohnyB
standards ( like Dreamweaver MX ? ) Eh, I won't suggest it to beginner - skilled coder knows all the gotchas, but beginner may just stuck with the WYSIWYG and do it badly. Everebody in our workshop works with PSPad on almost everything. If you want to try WYSIWYG I'd suggest trying NVU... and

Re: [WSG] Help - newbie

2005-01-19 Thread Alan Trick
Hi, Here's a bit of what I've learned jumping from editor to editor. 1) Don't pay for and editor, unless your filthy rich or can freeload one off a company you work for. There are free alternatives that are at least as good as the one's you pay for. 2) WYSIWYG (point and click) is pure evil.

Re: [WSG] Help - newbie

2005-01-19 Thread Brian Cummiskey
Paul wrote: I have been writing html code for awhile now and and starting to realize how inaccessible and non-web compliant my pages are. I have always hand written code in Edit Plus 2, is there a better editor I can use for web standards ( like Dreamweaver MX ? ) and where should I start for

Re: [WSG] Help - newbie

2005-01-19 Thread Lea de Groot
On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 10:05:03 -0330, Paul wrote: is there a better editor I can use for web standards ( like Dreamweaver MX ? ) and where should I start for tips on accessibility and standards compliance. Rather than changing editors, or at least, rather than going to DW! :), I'd suggest you

RE: [WSG] Help - newbie

2005-01-19 Thread Paul
- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Cummiskey Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 11:12 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Help - newbie Paul wrote: I have been writing html code for awhile now and and starting to realize how inaccessible

Re: [WSG] Help - newbie

2005-01-19 Thread Alan Trick
True, provided your editor isn't WYSIWYG. Brian Cummiskey wrote: Paul wrote: I have been writing html code for awhile now and and starting to realize how inaccessible and non-web compliant my pages are. I have always hand written code in Edit Plus 2, is there a better editor I can use for web

Re: [WSG] Help - newbie

2005-01-19 Thread Chris Stratford
Wow,wow,wow slow down Alan, ... Alan Trick wrote: 1) TSW Webcoder: Not bad for newbies. It requires regristration to get rid of the popup things which is anoying. It is basically for HTML/CSS coding only. It has no support for server-side scripting like PHP or ASP besides serverside

Re: [WSG] Help - newbie

2005-01-19 Thread David R
Paul wrote: I have been writing html code for awhile now and and starting to realize how inaccessible and non-web compliant my pages are. I have always hand written code in Edit Plus 2, is there a better editor I can use for web standards ( like Dreamweaver MX ? ) and where should I start for

Re: [WSG] Help - newbie

2005-01-19 Thread Bryan Davis
Paul wrote: I have been writing html code for awhile now and and starting to realize how inaccessible and non-web compliant my pages are. I have always hand written code in Edit Plus 2, is there a better editor I can use for web standards ( like Dreamweaver MX ? ) and where should I start for

Re: [WSG] Help - newbie

2005-01-19 Thread Bruce
I have always recommended not using an editor, learn it manually, then perhaps use one for shortcuts. Reliance on html editors and such isn't a good idea. That will go a long way toward learning on your own, without being limited by some software. Notetab or notepad is fine. Bruce Prochnau

Re: [WSG] Help - newbie

2005-01-19 Thread Wayne Godfrey
On 1/19/05 3:55 PM, Bruce [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have always recommended not using an editor, learn it manually, then perhaps use one for shortcuts. Reliance on html editors and such isn't a good idea. That will go a long way toward learning on your own, without being limited by some

Re: [WSG] Help - newbie

2005-01-19 Thread matt andrews
On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 00:41:40 +1000, Lea de Groot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rather than changing editors, or at least, rather than going to DW! :), I'd suggest you just start validating your pages. Figuring out those fixes will teach you a lot, and from there you can move on to Accessibility

Re: [WSG] Help - newbie

2005-01-19 Thread Bruce
Chris Stratford wrote: Wow,wow,wow slow down Alan, ... snip I LOVE TSW WebCoder. Built in FTP is Excellent! Built in Project Manager - with Status reports, To Do Lists, Full Project Upload Built in Server Mapping. Preview in IE and Mozilla - only for HTML coding, or if your server mapping...

Re: [WSG] Help - newbie

2005-01-19 Thread Ben Hamilton
Paul wrote: I have been writing html code for awhile now and and starting to realize how inaccessible and non-web compliant my pages are. I have always hand written code in Edit Plus 2, is there a better editor I can use for web standards ( like Dreamweaver MX ? ) and where should I start for