CSS doesn't have strict separation of versions. The validator should
check only well-formness of it.
That's certainly not what the W3 validator does.
The example which prompted this is display:inline-block. If I
validate a file with that in it, I get this:
Errors
* Line: 8 Context : .myclass
Multiple versions of Explorer for Windows on a single computer have
revolutionized CSS bug testing for websites, but sadly the different IE
browser windows appear identical to the eye, potentially leading to
confusion and testing mistakes.
Agree. One of the problems I noticed is the style
On Mon, 11 Apr 2005 21:45:40 +1000, Neerav wrote:
Im about to release Bill Bryson's book Down Under to Kirst040 at
tomorrow's Sydney meetup, if anyone wants to be added to the ray
before it leaves please email/PM me
Ummm... if you were to say that in English, how would it sound?
;)
Lea
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embarrassedapologies, obviously the wrong mailing list/embarrassed
slinks away..
Lea de Groot wrote:
On Mon, 11 Apr 2005 21:45:40 +1000, Neerav wrote:
Im about to release Bill Bryson's book Down Under to Kirst040 at
tomorrow's Sydney meetup, if anyone wants to be added to the ray
before it
Can I just add here that Scott Parsons is definitely not the person who's
email address was the problem - although his email post hit the list in
spectacular fashion it was not his fault in any way.
And in case you are wondering who suggested shutting down the whole mail
server... You guessed it,
I'd feel much better having
Russ incharge of a nuclear arsenal than George W. Bush, but
that's just me. Thank you for taking the appropriate measures.
Simon Jessey
Business Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Personal Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Business Site: http://keystonewebsites.com/
I have a site with a horizontal list-based menu before and a vertical
list-based menu after the main content. CSS is used to place the second
list in a left navbar. For my handheld, I have just let the content flow
as is. Can I do better? For instance, can I make the first list look
horizontal
I'm pretty sure it's a bug in (Win) Opera's absolute
positioning implementation, but annoying nonetheless...
would anybody be able to suggest a simple fix to
get the advanced search/preferences list to align properly
next to the input on my frugal google experiment
http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=HandheldStylesheets
http://www.mail-archive.com/wsg@webstandardsgroup.org/msg05976.html
http://www.mail-archive.com/wsg@webstandardsgroup.org/msg08279.html
http://www.alistapart.com/articles/pocket/
http://my.opera.com/community/dev/device/css-media/
That'll
On Mon, 11 Apr 2005 13:53:14 +0100, Patrick Lauke
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm pretty sure it's a bug in (Win) Opera's absolute
positioning implementation, but annoying nonetheless...
would anybody be able to suggest a simple fix to
get the advanced search/preferences list to align properly
next
Kornel Lesinski
The funny thing is, that in my Opera 8b3/win your XHTML
is pixel-perfect with original Firefox startpage,
Interesting. In my copy of Opera 8 (can't remember which beta, but it's
build 7401) I have the Advanced Search / Preferences to the right of
the actual FF logo, completely
G'day folks!
A query for those with some experience in using multiple languages in
their sites:
In a site that is predominantly English, select pages have been
translated into both Simplified and Traditional Chinese. Each page
contains a link where users are able to indicate their preferred
On 11 Apr 2005, at 10:28 pm, Patrick Lauke wrote:
but in Firefox 1.0+ (nightly 20050407) you can see
pretty nasty bug - submit button overlaps radio buttons.
Again, on my FF 1.0.1 and FF 1.1 at home, it only overlaps at
very, very small font sizes.
Could you email me screenshots off list, if it's
Patrick Lauke schrieb:
Kornel Lesinski
The funny thing is, that in my Opera 8b3/win your XHTML
is pixel-perfect with original Firefox startpage,
Interesting. In my copy of Opera 8 (can't remember which beta, but it's
build 7401) I have the Advanced Search / Preferences to the right of
the actual
Patrick Lauke schrieb:
I'm pretty sure it's a bug in (Win) Opera's absolute
positioning implementation, but annoying nonetheless...
would anybody be able to suggest a simple fix to
get the advanced search/preferences list to align properly
next to the input on my frugal google experiment
Not sure, but I'll try:
a href=# lang=en hreflang=zh-Hans title=Most pages...
img src=# lang=zh-Hans alt=... title=...
/a
with the image saying something like Chinese version.
Now, if your design allows for a little padding of the a you'd have
the English title shortly displayed before the
Ive designed an html email template with tables images etc.
Is there a way to provide an alternative non-html email content for those
who dont have html email capabilities.
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Kvnmcwebn wrote:
Ive designed an html email template with tables images etc.
Is there a way to provide an alternative non-html email content for those
who dont have html email capabilities.
Google a bit on 'MIME multipart/alternative'
HTH,
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russ - maxdesign wrote:
Can I just add here that Scott Parsons is definitely not the person who's
email address was the problem - although his email post hit the list in
spectacular fashion it was not his fault in any way.
And in case you are wondering who suggested shutting down the whole mail
Hi
I'm developing a site for a friend of mine and have some rare problems.
What I did work well in Firefox, but when my friend saw it with his IE6 it
was horrible !!! :(
I used the classic two columns inside a container. Left column float to
left and the other to right side. IE 6, ignores the
Ah yes, those problems. IE is quite bugy when it comes to floats. Try
putting |display:inline| on everything that is floated.
http://positioniseverything.net/explorer/doubled-margin.html
Alan Trick
Javier wrote:
Hi
I'm developing a site for a friend of mine and have some rare problems.
What I
Hi, I'll sort of try this again, and hope the gods don't mail-bomb us :P.
SVG isn't quite flash, because it's not proprietary technology, but it's
not terribly accesible either, because as far as I know, mozzilla is the
only browser to have any built-in support for it (adobe has an svg
plugin
I've seen hacks over the net and used one to define sizes in IE...but
this problem is driving me crazy...
Hi Javier,
As Alan said, you should use display:inline on every float that include
margins, but I believe you need more than that to fix your problem. Try
this:
#contizq {
Title: Re: [WSG] The mail problem
Your not the only one.
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On 4/11/05 5:45 AM, Simon Jessey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'd feel much better having Russ in charge of a nuclear arsenal than George W. Bush, but that's just me. Thank you for taking the appropriate measures.
Simon Jessey
Javier wrote:
What I did work well in Firefox, but when my friend saw it with his IE6 it
was horrible !!! :(
I used the classic two columns inside a container. Left column float to
left and the other to right side. IE 6, ignores the width size of left side
and show it bigger than expected then
Hi,
Normally IE seems to ignore the proper rules of floats and expand boxes
to fit them. Using this and overflow:auto for the other
browsers that do the rules properly, is usually a fairly simple
solution to the overlapping float problem. However, I've have a page
that uses overflow:auto, and
Few days ago, i was reading an article that said something about a new
font swf based, that coud be possible be called by .css .
Does anyone knows how´s the name of that new font.?
Thanks.
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att,
Genau L. Júnior
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as far as I know, mozzilla is the only browser to have any built-in support
Opera 8 will have it too.
Has anyone here actually done any development with SVG?
Development not, design yes. (It's quite good vector format, AFAIK
Quartz and latest KDE use it.)
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Its the input buttons that are floated and overlapping causing the
.sectionfooter| to shove over.
Try :
div.sectionfooter {clear:left}
Also make sure you set a background-color for body, because white is not the
color by default ;-)
HTH,
Thierry | http://www.TJKDesign.com
Juergen Auer wrote:
try to save the html-file as UTF-8 and use the chinese letters
directly. And add
meta http-equiv=content-type content=text/html; charset=utf-8 /
Your solution can't work if the page is saved as Ascii / 256 Bit.
Sorry, should have mentioned that. Yes, the page is UTF-8 (by
On 12 Apr 2005 at 7:30, Lachlan Hardy wrote:
Sorry, should have mentioned that. Yes, the page is UTF-8 (by both
server settings and meta element). That still doesn't help me.
Hi Lachlan,
is it possible that you put a test page online?
Normally I would say that this has to work. It may be a
Juergen Auer wrote:
try to save the html-file as UTF-8 and use the chinese letters
directly. And add
meta http-equiv=content-type content=text/html; charset=utf-8 /
Your solution can't work if the page is saved as Ascii / 256 Bit.
Sorry, should have mentioned that. Yes, the page is
Lachlan
If using windows make sure you've gone to: Control Panel -Regional
Options, and made sure the boxes for Traditional Chinese Simplified
Chinese are ticked
After all the people reading your site in those languages will have
Traditional Chinese Simplified Chinese fonts installed, you
You might mean SIFR or Scalable Inman Flash Replacement
http://www.mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2004/08/sifr
Wendy Phillips
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Hi Stuart,
1/ The navigation buttons are currently text links sitting on top of
backgrounds. I'm having trouble getting them to centre nicely though. If
someone could have a look and give me some ideas of how I can make
everything line up nicely, it would be greatly appreciated.
The
I have developed some projects on SVG
(http://siter.com.au/dmitry/Pie/pie.html ,
http://siter.com.au/dmitry/Composer/Composer.html ,
http://siter.com.au/dmitry/MaxControl/index.html , etc.) It is very
powerfull thing, but there are few companies that interested in SVG
development. Flash rules,
A colleague is developing a table-free design, and has run up against
the peekaboo bug in IE6. (If you don't know it, it's basically that
text disappears in certain circumstances, see
http://positioniseverything.net/explorer/peekaboo.html).
His problem is not diagnosing the bug or even fixing
On Tue, 12 Apr 2005 00:02:52 +0100, Dmitry Baranovskiy
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have developed some projects on SVG
(http://siter.com.au/dmitry/Pie/pie.html ,
http://siter.com.au/dmitry/Composer/Composer.html ,
http://siter.com.au/dmitry/MaxControl/index.html , etc.) It is very
powerfull
Melbourne vs Sydney?
Ah, you've discovered the Microsoft's bug impemeting policy... :D
Seriously... It might have something in common with specifying eg. the
line-height (that AFAIK fixes it) automagically by the system etc.
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How about trying the same resolution so the rendering is the same?
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Well, this will teach me not to send messages to the list without proper
sleep. I'll try and explain the situation a bit better:
The Chinese (both Traditional and Simplified) was encoded in UTF-8 and
is displayed as UTF-8. It shows up fine for me in Firefox. It shows up
fine in IE, if the code
Is ABC using a SOE in both Sydney and Melbourne? Does the document he's
working on locally refer to any stylesheets (that may contain hacks)
with local paths (e.g. not network-accessible)? Sounds stupid, but
simple things like that have caught many of us before!
On Tue, 2005-04-12 at 09:59 +1000,
It might have something in common with specifying eg. the line-height
(that AFAIK fixes it) automagically by the system etc.
When you say 'by the system' you mean something like IE's preferences?
Well, rather like Could it be CRT versus LCD monitors? -- W2k could
have set some different
How about trying the same resolution so the rendering is the same?
Didn't think of that. Good point.
Have You Validated Your Code?
John Horner(+612 / 02) 9333 3488
Senior Developer, ABC Online
Is ABC using a SOE in both Sydney and Melbourne?
Yes. Our default browser is this version of IE6.
Does the document he's working on locally refer to any stylesheets
(that may contain hacks) with local paths (e.g. not
network-accessible)? Sounds stupid, but simple things like that have
caught
Philippe Wittenbergh wrote:
The problem stems form this in the default forms.css
legend {
...
position: static ! important;
float: none ! important;
}
Ingo Chao wrote:
I think the problem is in the browser default /res/form.css:
legend { ... float: none ! important; }
Well that's just
Patrick wrote:
But just to reiterate: even if you follow the recommended practices in
Bob's document...
Cna you please point me to this document, I seem to have missed it with all
that was going on here over the weekend.
Thanks,
lisa
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Herrod, Lisa wrote:
Cna you please point me to this document, I seem to have missed it with all
that was going on here over the weekend.
http://www.markme.com/accessibility/archives/007344.cfm
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Lisa, it's in the archive:
http://www.mail-archive.com/wsg@webstandardsgroup.org/msg15999.html
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True, those ugly squares are a real risk on any non-Unicode OS (Windows
up to ME, MacOS up to 9), which tipically came with fonts only for their
native codepage. Let's try again.
I tend to have strange ideas when working late at night, so if any of
the following is wrong, non-standard or just
Well, yes, I used embed, but it was done 2 years ago, so may be it
doesn't work in Opera now. But it definitely works in IE after Adobe
plug-in installation.
On Apr 12, 2005 9:33 AM, Kornel Lesinski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, 12 Apr 2005 00:02:52 +0100, Dmitry Baranovskiy
[EMAIL
On 12 Apr 2005, at 10:30 am, Patrick H. Lauke wrote:
Well that's just peachy...so basically, there's no way to override
this, as it will always take precedence over anything I can do with my
styles thanks to the ! important. Interestingly, these rules weren't
in my forms.css, but now that I've
On Tue, 12 Apr 2005 02:30:24 +0100, Patrick H. Lauke wrote:
Well that's just peachy...so basically, there's no way to override
this, as it will always take precedence over anything I can do with
my styles thanks to the ! important. Interestingly, these rules
weren't in my forms.css, but now
Hi all,
I'm going to make a presentation to art students on an introduction to
web design and would like some advice (besides how to deal with the
butterfiles in the stomach). First the stats:
Audience: art students who want to create portfolio websites to
showcase their art work
would anybody be able to suggest a simple fix to
get the advanced search/preferences list to align properly
next to the input on my frugal google experiment
http://www.splintered.co.uk/experiments/74/ ?
You could try to move the UL just before the text box and then use *float*
rather than an
John Horner schrieb:
Not stupid at all, but I checked that and no, it's all happening via
HTTP from a web server, no local paths involved.
If it's not too much trouble, could we see an URL? Ingo
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Hi, I'd been doing web design on the side since last year. I believe in web
standards, but I am not sure about potential clients who want to pay me do
the job will believe it. For us who believed in web standards, it all sounds
very beautiful and convincing, but for companies who provides
Hi, I enjoyed reading your message and good points, of course. I've
actually marked it for saving (well, I knew all of them but you said it
all succiently!).
One other point I like to make is that *color is free* on the web versus
the print world.
good luck with your presentation, Zulema!
As you say, sadly not too many companies know about web standards, and
why they are important to them.
So it isn't really an option to make web standards a selling point,
but the company will be happy when they don't receive any complaints
about compatibility issues and such.
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