[WSG] background images fluid

2005-08-01 Thread Bruce
What is the best way to get a 100% width on a background image in a banner? I believe in fluid sites that look good in all resolutions, img tag works easy at 100% width, but even searching for hours on google didn't help for css background sizing in %. Anyone can help? Thanks in advance.

RE: [WSG] background images fluid

2005-08-01 Thread Andreas Boehmer [Addictive Media]
Can you give an example of what you mean? From: Bruce [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, 1 August 2005 8:12 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: [WSG] background images fluid What is the best

Re: [WSG] background images fluid

2005-08-01 Thread Jan Brasna
Bitmap grpahic is not intended to be rescaled/stretched. You can tile it, or combine it (like on mozillazine), but no stretching, please... -- Jan Brasna aka JohnyB :: www.alphanumeric.cz | www.janbrasna.com ** The discussion list for

Re: [WSG] background images fluid

2005-08-01 Thread Vicki Berry
Jan Brasna wrote: Bitmap grpahic is not intended to be rescaled/stretched. You can tile it, or combine it (like on mozillazine), but no stretching, please... That's right. What I'd probably do (not having seen your banner) is - if the image doesn't stretch forever and isn't suitable to be

Re: [WSG] background images fluid

2005-08-01 Thread designer
Hi Bruce, Try http://www.edgedesigns.com.au/resourcedw.htm. Not sure just how relevant this is, but it's a Dreamweaver extension (free) which you may be able to adapt to use in a div? (Not checked!) Bob Bruce wrote: What is the best way to get a 100% width on a background image in a

Re: [WSG] background images fluid

2005-08-01 Thread Bruce
Andreas Boehmer wrote: Can you give an example of what you mean? A header or banner at the top. I can put an image in there: div id=banner img src=anything.jpg width=100% height=120px alt=mynicebanner / /div It will size according to the resolution. Stretch and shrink. But I cannot make it do

RE: [WSG] background images fluid

2005-08-01 Thread Peter Goddard
Hi Bruce I've come up against this myself when going for a liquid 3 column layout with a header graphic that I want to span all three columns at the top. You could 'sniff' the browser width/screen res, but I don't like doing that myself. The solutuion I came up with is pretty much the solution

Re: [WSG] background images fluid

2005-08-01 Thread Ingo Chao
Bruce schrieb: It will size according to the resolution. Stretch and shrink. Not stretching, not static, though: http://www.satzansatz.de/cssd/wide.html Ingo -- http://www.satzansatz.de/css.html ** The discussion list for

Re: [WSG] background images fluid

2005-08-01 Thread Bruce
Vicki Berry wrote: if the image doesn't stretch forever [***I can't get it to stretch at all, thats the problem***] and isn't suitable to be repeated - to have a fluid section of the banner with a background image set to repeat in the CSS, and with the un-repeatable image on one side,

Re: [WSG] background images fluid

2005-08-01 Thread Bruce
Ingo Chao wrote: Bruce schrieb: It will size according to the resolution. Stretch and shrink. Not stretching, not static, though: http://www.satzansatz.de/cssd/wide.html Ingo That's it!! Thank you Ingo Awesome Bruce Prochnau BKDesign Solutions - just got a solution.

[WSG] CMS - Can you use Wordpress to act as your calendar on a normal web page.

2005-08-01 Thread Craig Rippon
Hi Guys, Im looking for a an easy to maintain calendar that will list events in a list format, rather than in a calendar format. It has to be able to be used by people who have no real interest in computers, so I was wondering if you could somehow use Wordpress with one of the

Re: [WSG] background images fluid

2005-08-01 Thread leenath1
Hi Bruce, I had a quick look at your current header and see what you are trying to do. At the end of the day I think you need to just be a bit more clever with your image. I *borrowed* your current image and did a very crude editing job to it so it will look good at the avg resolution, but

Re: [WSG] background images fluid

2005-08-01 Thread Bruce
I guess I cannot communicate what I mean. I have an image on my own website of a sunset. I put it in the banner div as an image and set the width to 100%. I am perfectly happy with it, it looks good and stretches to fit all resolutions. There is nothing wrong with it at all. At 1024 it fills the

Re: [WSG] background images fluid

2005-08-01 Thread Ingo Chao
Bruce schrieb: That's it!! Bruce, I didn't expect that this attempt works for you. You need a very big image, resulting in 25k. --- You can choose a focus of the picture, which determines the percentage-value for the background-position. This makes the image look fixed (here: x=30%),

RE: [WSG] background images fluid

2005-08-01 Thread chris
Another alternative would be to produce the image for a largish resolution (e.g. 1024), set max-width to 1024 and set width to 100%. I believe readability begins to decrease above 1280 - surely there's some research on maximum widths and readability somewhere. - Chris www.semioticpixels.com

Re: [WSG] background images fluid

2005-08-01 Thread Ingo Chao
Bruce schrieb: I guess I cannot communicate what I mean. ... I was wondering if an image would stretch as a background image in the stylesheet as a background. That's all. Ingo did a demo as a background image of a h1 tag. I thought that would work. Using the EXACT same code that he used, in

Re: [WSG] background images fluid

2005-08-01 Thread Martin Heiden
Bruce, I guess I cannot communicate what I mean. I have an image on my own website of a sunset. I put it in the banner div as an image and set the width to 100%. I am perfectly happy with it, it looks good and stretches to fit all resolutions. There is nothing wrong with it at all. At 1024

Re: [WSG] background images fluid

2005-08-01 Thread Bert Doorn
Bruce wrote: I guess I cannot communicate what I mean. I was wondering if an image would stretch as a background image in the stylesheet as a background. That's all. Short answer: No, you cannot, with CSS and HTML as it is today, resize a background image. The only properties

Re: [WSG] background images fluid

2005-08-01 Thread Bruce
Thank you to all who responded. I see that it is a problem with CSS at present. Partial solution seems to be making the image wide (I had it at 720px or thereabouts) I made the image itself 1026w, and 11k, now it sscales nicely, and for larger res the fade or framed with another image seems the

Re: [WSG] background images fluid

2005-08-01 Thread Bruce
Result: http://peoriaaz.nexcess.net/index.php Anyways, that's what all the fuss was about. Site was just started this morning. Done in Expression Engine. Redoing everything yet. Thanks again Bruce Prochnau BKDesign Solutions ** The

Re: [WSG] IE7 b1 :/

2005-08-01 Thread Jeroen Visser | vizi
On Jul 31, 2005, at 3:19 PM, Justin Carter wrote: IE7 will be far from a disappointment. Sure Beta 1 doesn't seem to give us anything much new and the UI is a bit topsy-turvey but I think it's mostly due to the fact that it has come straight out of Longhorn (Vista). From the IMPRESSIVE list

RE: [WSG] background images fluid

2005-08-01 Thread Drake, Ted C.
Hi Bruce Instead of stretching an image, try the sliding doors approach. This may seem odd in a photograph, but could work in situations where the image has a repeatable section. #wrap gets the left corner with generic content. #innerwrap gets the right side with the juicy part of the image.

Re: [WSG] CMS - Can you use Wordpress to act as your calendar on a normal web page.

2005-08-01 Thread ByteDreams
Probablyaddress this to Wordpress' community or to http://www.codex.org/ which also has a forum - Original Message - From: Craig Rippon To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Sent: Monday, August 01, 2005 8:07 AM Subject: [WSG] CMS - Can you use Wordpress to act as your

Re: [WSG] background images fluid

2005-08-01 Thread dwain
Bruce wrote: Looks like a perfect solution. At least as perfect as can be had. Thanks to all who ansered. Funny how it can be easily done as an image IN the banner , but not in staylesheet. wait 'til css3 and you can use an svg image in the background, that will do exactly what you want.

Re: [WSG] Opening external links in popup windows with no extra markup

2005-08-01 Thread Ben Curtis
On Jul 29, 2005, at 5:53 PM, Andrew Krespanis wrote: On 7/30/05, Thierry Koblentz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think you ought to check specifically that 'http://' is at the beginning of the string. Good point, I'll change this. A more reusable approach would be to check for '://', as

RE: [WSG] implicit / explicit labels which is better?

2005-08-01 Thread John Lewis
I've read that we should avoid using implicit labels because, while it shouldn't be any different, in testing it would appear screen readers can struggle and output misleading info, etc. /me goes off to find link -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On

[WSG] Jroller vs. Movable Type

2005-08-01 Thread Anthony Zeoli
Can anyone tell me what the differences are between a Java based blogging tool and a php/mysql perl based one? The company I work for is looking into Jroller, because some of our apps are Java based and we might want to integrate down the road, but I'm not sure Jroller is all that well

Re: [WSG] Jroller vs. Movable Type

2005-08-01 Thread James Ellis
Hi Anthony This list is not the best place to ask for software reviews. Their implementation and use of web standards is, though :) Replies/Reviews to Anthony off list, please. Cheers James On 8/2/05, Anthony Zeoli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can anyone tell me what the differences are between a

Re: [WSG] implicit / explicit labels which is better?

2005-08-01 Thread Chris Kennon
Hi, An example of this structure would prove enlightening. C On Aug 1, 2005, at 3:16 PM, Terrence Wood wrote: you score more points with Cynthia with explicit labels. Explicit relationships means you can have more than one label for a form control... and yes, you are allowed to do that.

Re: [WSG] Site Check: VVE

2005-08-01 Thread Darren Wood
Great work Tathan! The markup is very tight indeed! there is very small thing - that is you've left out the type attribute on the link tag at the top of the document. link rel=stylesheet href=../Skins/Vision.css type=text/css media=screen / Otherwise its great. It looks good and behaves well!

Re: [WSG] implicit / explicit labels which is better?

2005-08-01 Thread Terrence Wood
Do you mean for using more than one label for a form? Note the explicit and implicit relationship of the second label. How about an an error message !-- top of page -- pSorry, we were unable to process this form. Please check your value for label for=foofoo/label./p !-- snip, later in

Re: [WSG] Site Check: VVE

2005-08-01 Thread Terrence Wood
v. nice. Nothing really needs changing but you might consider: 1. Maybe use search instead of query as a label for the search form. 2. Your CSS issues may come form the use of multiple classes, which some browsers don't handle very well (I'll leave the css-d folks to look into this) 3. You

Re: [WSG] implicit / explicit labels which is better?

2005-08-01 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
Terrence Wood wrote: !-- top of page -- pSorry, we were unable to process this form. Please check your value for label for=foofoo/label./p !-- snip, later in the page -- label for=fooFoo input type=text id=foo name=foo //input clicking the label in the error message focuses the form

Re: [WSG] implicit / explicit labels which is better?

2005-08-01 Thread Chris Kennon
On Aug 1, 2005, at 7:02 PM, Terrence Wood wrote: Do you mean for using more than one label for a form? Note the explicit and implicit relationship of the second label. !-- snip, later in the page -- This would be explicit? label for=fooFoo And this implied? input type=text id=foo

Re: [WSG] implicit / explicit labels which is better?

2005-08-01 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
Chris Kennon wrote: This would be explicit? label for=fooFoo And this implied? input type=text id=foo name=foo / It can be a tad confusing, as the spec itself http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/interact/forms.html#h-17.9 uses implicit in two different ways: 1) a form control such as a

Re: [WSG] Site Check: VVE

2005-08-01 Thread Bert Doorn
G'day http://testdrive.fueladvance.com/vve/ http://testdrive.fueladvance.com/vve/Dashboard/Default.ashx Pretty good (looks clean, code and layout wise). I don't like using as many classes as you do, but that's personal preference. The only real problem I see is accessibility

Re: [WSG] implicit / explicit labels which is better?

2005-08-01 Thread Peter Asquith
Patrick H. Lauke wrote: The belt and braces approach when using labels is to make the label both explicit (via for) *and* implicit (by wrapping the control in the label) label for=fooexplicit and implicit label input type=text id=foo name=foo //label By including the element being

Re: [WSG] implicit / explicit labels which is better?

2005-08-01 Thread Chris Kennon
Hi, Thanks, the belt and brace approach being most secure? C On Aug 1, 2005, at 7:43 PM, Patrick H. Lauke wrote: The belt and braces approach when using labels is to make the label both explicit (via for) *and* implicit (by wrapping the control in the label) label for=fooexplicit and

Re: [WSG] Site Check: VVE

2005-08-01 Thread Andrew Krespanis
1. Maybe use search instead of query as a label for the search form. Maybe use Find instead of search or query (then again, your target audience is developers, so query is part of their vocab). 'Search' suggests that a 'hunt and peck/ hit and miss activity will follow. More important than that

Re: [WSG] implicit / explicit labels which is better?

2005-08-01 Thread Andrew Krespanis
Whooa nelly! !important -- not adding a 'for' attribute kills half the purpose of using a label 0_o Without a for attrib, clicking the label will not affect (focus/activate) the input element nested within. This is especially important in the case of checkboxes and radio buttons as the