Re: [WSG] Hiding Headings
I think we're strictly thinking of the perfect semantic document, which would in all likelihood, have an H1 at the very top. Andreas Boehmer [Addictive Media] wrote: -Original Message- From: Duncan Heal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 28 September 2005 1:02 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Hiding Headings Search Engines don't care which part of your layout the H1 is in. They will care how close to the top of the source code it is though. What about writing the code so that the content area is close to the top of the source? Personally I am not a big fan of messing around with position of content to hide it from visibility. Actually... if I think about it... I am not a big fan of messing with search engine rankings either. Dumping headings all over the place just to get a better ranking is banned from search engines for a good reason. ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] IE MAC just won't play ball!
I noticed one other thing worth mentioning on the charismalab site. Your container div with the background gets cut off at the bottom of the first page length (in Firefox using 1024x768 resolution). I haven't gone through your CSS as I'm supposed to be working right now, but I'm guessing that you have at least one height in the chain from html to the content set to 100%. (screen shot enclosed) You may want to try going backwards in your document and set anything that div is nested in to be 100% as well including adding a declaration for html itself set to 100%. That should fix that. HELP! I've just done a site for http://www.charismalab.com http://www.charismalab.com/. Everything is great for Windows PC, Firefox, ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
[WSG] WE05
I'm not going to the WE05, I just have too many things in the fire right now. However, I would highly recommend everyone try to attend these conferences. Even if you have to pay for it out of your own pocket, go. You will meet new people, learn new techniques, network, eat convention food, network, meet new people, and most importantly get inspired to do new things. I've attended a ton of conferences from @media to the School for Scanning to Museums on the Web to the most recent: Business Blog Summit. I have always learned new things. I've traveled to London, Vancouver, Boston, Seattle, Los Angeles, San Francisco, and more. I've sat in conference rooms inside convention centers, hotels, and the Getty. Every convention has been worth it, even if I can only manage getting into the trade show. Recently, I went to the business blog summit in San Francisco to learn more about RSS. During the first seminar, I met a guy from Toshiba who invited me to a mailing list about business to business blogs. Sounds innocent enough you may say. After posting a few comments on the blog I get an invitation to submit a resume to (I don't want to dooce anything, so lets just say it's one of the top 5 internet companies worldwide). A few weeks later ... I'm in Silicon Valley interviewing with this company! Yes folks, go to these conferences, meet people, interact, engage in conversations, grab cool t-shirts and make new friends. Before you know it, I may be the one inviting you to join this company. (Yes, I was hired and start in two weeks :) ) By the way, this list has been great. Much kudos to Patrick and Thierry for helping me with javascript programming. Ted www.tdrake.net ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
[WSG] Page templates submitted for review (discard previous mail)
Dears, In an attempt to bring a little contribution to the world of web standards we have developed a dozen templates that we would like to submit for your review. These templates are all shared under the terms of the Attribution license of Creative Commons. We would like to obtain your comments in the following areas: 1) XHTML 1.1: quality of code (+ possible improvements) 2) CSS: quality of code (+ possible improvements) 3) WCAG: we tend to create Triple-A templates, how good are we doing? are our templates/pages really accessible? 4) Elegance of design: how good are we doing? Here are the templates: http://www.fastwrite.com/dvlonly/web/paradeigma/Liquid/Samples/tennis.html http://www.fastwrite.com/dvlonly/web/paradeigma/corporate/corporate2.html http://www.fastwrite.com/dvlonly/web/paradeigma/motoconcho/motoconcho.html http://www.fastwrite.com/dvlonly/web/paradeigma/Liquid/Liquid2.html http://www.fastwrite.com/dvlonly/web/paradeigma/Quietude/Quietude.html http://www.fastwrite.com/dvlonly/web/paradeigma/senator/senator.html http://www.fastwrite.com/dvlonly/web/paradeigma/spagyrum/spagyrum.html http://www.fastwrite.com/dvlonly/web/paradeigma/Typografia/Typografia.html http://www.fastwrite.com/dvlonly/web/paradeigma/Veritas/Veritas.html http://www.fastwrite.com/dvlonly/web/paradeigma/NewYork/NewYork.html http://www.fastwrite.com/dvlonly/web/paradeigma/Furio/Furio.html Thank you for your input. Pat Boens
[WSG] Page templates submitted for review
Dears, In an attempt to bring a little contribution to the world of web standards we have developed a dozen templates that we would like to submit for your review. These templates are all shared under the terms of the Attribution license of Creative Commons. We would like to obtain your comments in the following areas: 1) XHTML 1.1: quality of code (+ possible improvements) 2) CSS: quality of code (+ possible improvements) 3) WCAG: we tend to create Triple-A templates, how good are we doing? are our templates/pages really accessible? 4) Elegance of design: how good are we doing? Here are the templates: http://www.fastwrite.com/dvlonly/web/paradeigma/Liquid/Samples/tennis.html http://www.fastwrite.com/dvlonly/web/paradeigma/corporate/corporate2.html http://www.fastwrite.com/dvlonly/web/paradeigma/motoconcho/motoconcho.html http://www.fastwrite.com/dvlonly/web/paradeigma/Liquid/Liquid2.html http://www.fastwrite.com/dvlonly/web/paradeigma/Quietude/Quietude.html http://www.fastwrite.com/dvlonly/web/paradeigma/senator/senator.html http://www.fastwrite.com/dvlonly/web/paradeigma/spagyrum/spagyrum.html http://www.fastwrite.com/dvlonly/web/paradeigma/Typografia/Typografia.html http://www.fastwrite.com/dvlonly/web/paradeigma/Veritas/Veritas.html http://www.fastwrite.com/dvlonly/web/paradeigma/NewYork/NewYork.html http://www.fastwrite.com/dvlonly/web/paradeigma/Furio/Furio.html Thank you for your input. Pat Boens
Re: [WSG] IE MAC just won't play ball!
Yes, I noticed that too and was trying to sort it out earlier today without any success whatsoever. Thanks for the advice! On 9/28/05, Joseph R. B. Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I noticed one other thing worth mentioning on the charismalab site.Your container div with the background gets cut off at the bottom of thefirst page length (in Firefox using 1024x768 resolution).I haven'tgone through your CSS as I'm supposed to be working right now, but I'm guessing that you have at least one height in the chain from html to thecontent set to 100%. (screen shot enclosed)You may want to try going backwards in your document and set anythingthat div is nested in to be 100% as well including adding a declaration for html itself set to 100%.That should fix that. HELP! I've just done a site for http://www.charismalab.com http://www.charismalab.com/. Everything is great for Windows PC, Firefox,**The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **-- ADAM x
[WSG] css variables
Hi everyone
There was a
recent spat of posts about using variables in CSS. I looked at them and thought
I need to look at these later.
Well, now Im working on a very
complicated CSS file and would like to replace #f60 in several million places
with {selectedlink}. Its not several million places, I swear, but is
still a hefty number of times.
Heres the deal. I have a main
navigation css. Id like to create an alternate template and instead of
replacing the nav.css with a new flavored nav.css, Id like to put my
color rules in a theme css file.
For example, lets call it something emo
like, lasttraintofresno.css. This lovely CSS file should have only a few rules,
i.e. change the color of the headers, the back ground of the subsection div,
and lets throw in a different border color on the footer. Oh, and
change the color of the selected item in the navigation. Ouch, my 4 rule css
file now grows to 54,056 lines of rules re-writing the #f60 code. Wouldnt
it be lovely if I just had {selectedlink}: #ffcfcf?
Is this possible? Is this what they
were trying to tell me?
What language is my spellchecker looking at?
every word in this email is screaming check spelling!
Merci
Ted
RE: [WSG] Page templates submitted for review (discard previous mail)
-nice grids andvery quick download time. I had one questioin about the use of thetables. Could you explain how this helps? We use a table to render the main content. However, the real content will be displayed first because it spans over 2 lines 2 rows of the table). -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Pat BoensSent: 28 September 2005 18:04To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.orgSubject: [WSG] Page templates submitted for review (discard previous mail) Dears, In an attempt to bring a little contribution to the world of web standards we have developed a dozen templates that we would like to submit for your review. These templates are all shared under the terms of the "Attribution" license of "Creative Commons". We would like to obtain your comments in the following areas: 1) XHTML 1.1: quality of code (+ possible improvements) 2) CSS: quality of code (+ possible improvements) 3) WCAG: we tend to create Triple-A templates, how good are we doing? are our templates/pages really accessible? 4) Elegance of design: how good are we doing? Here are the templates: http://www.fastwrite.com/dvlonly/web/paradeigma/Liquid/Samples/tennis.html http://www.fastwrite.com/dvlonly/web/paradeigma/corporate/corporate2.html http://www.fastwrite.com/dvlonly/web/paradeigma/motoconcho/motoconcho.html http://www.fastwrite.com/dvlonly/web/paradeigma/Liquid/Liquid2.html http://www.fastwrite.com/dvlonly/web/paradeigma/Quietude/Quietude.html http://www.fastwrite.com/dvlonly/web/paradeigma/senator/senator.html http://www.fastwrite.com/dvlonly/web/paradeigma/spagyrum/spagyrum.html http://www.fastwrite.com/dvlonly/web/paradeigma/Typografia/Typografia.html http://www.fastwrite.com/dvlonly/web/paradeigma/Veritas/Veritas.html http://www.fastwrite.com/dvlonly/web/paradeigma/NewYork/NewYork.html http://www.fastwrite.com/dvlonly/web/paradeigma/Furio/Furio.html Thank you for your input. Pat Boens
Re: [WSG] css variables
Drake, Ted C. said:
There was a recent spat of posts about using variables in CSS.[snip]
Ouch, my 4 rule css file now grows to 54,056 lines of rules re-writing
the #f60 code. Wouldn't it be lovely if I just had
{selectedlink} : #ffcfcf ?
There's no point using a slegehammer to drive in a tack.
I usually just use a regex: s/#f60/#ffcfcf/g
Any decent editor should handle that in one form or the other.
kind regards
Terrence Wood.
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Re: [WSG] css variables
On 9/28/2005 2:33 PM Drake, Ted C. wrote: I'm not sure If I asked the question right. I'm not looking to do a search and replace. I'm hoping to set a variable in the CSS, such as This is the color of all selected links in the navigation. Then, the css would just set that variable. All of the various rules would refer to the variable instead of the actual hexdec number. CSS doesn't do variables, but here's something recently mentioned on the css-d list that does something close to what I believe you are describing, using php: http://www.shauninman.com/plete/2005/08/css-constants -- Steve Clason Web Design and Development Boulder, Colorado, USA www.topdogstrategy.com (303)818-8590 ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] css variables
Hi Ted,
You're not thinking of these?
http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2005/08/31/the-constants-gardener/
Cheers
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On Behalf Of Drake, Ted C.
Sent: Thursday, 29 September 2005 8:33 a.m.
To: 'wsg@webstandardsgroup.org'
Subject: RE: [WSG] css variables
Hi Terrence
I'm not sure If I asked the question right. I'm not looking to do a search
and replace. I'm hoping to set a variable in the CSS, such as This is the
color of all selected links in the navigation. Then, the css would just set
that variable. All of the various rules would refer to the variable instead
of the actual hexdec number.
How would the regular expression do that?
Thanks
Ted
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Terrence Wood
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 1:07 PM
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: Re: [WSG] css variables
Drake, Ted C. said:
There was a recent spat of posts about using variables in CSS.[snip]
Ouch, my 4 rule css file now grows to 54,056 lines of rules re-writing
the #f60 code. Wouldn't it be lovely if I just had
{selectedlink} : #ffcfcf ?
There's no point using a slegehammer to drive in a tack.
I usually just use a regex: s/#f60/#ffcfcf/g
Any decent editor should handle that in one form or the other.
kind regards
Terrence Wood.
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RE: [WSG] css variables
Ted,
You're not thinking of these?
http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2005/08/31/the-constants-gardener/
Cheers
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On Behalf Of Drake, Ted C.
Sent: Thursday, 29 September 2005 8:33 a.m.
To: 'wsg@webstandardsgroup.org'
Subject: RE: [WSG] css variables
Hi Terrence
I'm not sure If I asked the question right. I'm not looking to do a search
and replace. I'm hoping to set a variable in the CSS, such as This is the
color of all selected links in the navigation. Then, the css would just set
that variable. All of the various rules would refer to the variable instead
of the actual hexdec number.
How would the regular expression do that?
Thanks
Ted
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Terrence Wood
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 1:07 PM
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: Re: [WSG] css variables
Drake, Ted C. said:
There was a recent spat of posts about using variables in CSS.[snip]
Ouch, my 4 rule css file now grows to 54,056 lines of rules re-writing
the #f60 code. Wouldn't it be lovely if I just had
{selectedlink} : #ffcfcf ?
There's no point using a slegehammer to drive in a tack.
I usually just use a regex: s/#f60/#ffcfcf/g
Any decent editor should handle that in one form or the other.
kind regards
Terrence Wood.
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RE: [WSG] Page templates submitted for review (discard previous mail)
Terrence, Many thanks for the comments. 1) We shall change the order the links to put the Skip to content link consistent across the templates. Should Home and Skip to content be the two first links? 2) We are going to modify the 2 column layout to use div only. Thanks for mentioning it. 3) We shall be more cautious about the claim of WCAG indeed. You're totally right on this. Thanks for spotting it. Do you mind if we use a somewhat close statement as Project Seven's? Pat -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Terrence Wood Sent: mercredi 28 septembre 2005 22:27 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Page templates submitted for review (discard previous mail) Pat Boens said: 3) WCAG: we tend to create Triple-A templates, how good are we doing? are our templates/pages really accessible? Hi Pat, a couple of points: 1) In one of your templates your skip nav link is the second to last link in your navigation, which kind of defeats the purpose of including it. 2) In another you don't have skip links at all. Most browser don't have a built in way to skip blocks of content so we must build it ourselves. 3) In another you have used tables for a simple two column layout, which seems odd in this day and age (and in this forum). Please no table v. div wars, read the archives instead ;-) 4) Please be wary of claiming your templates are triple A compliant. This type of claim may be misleading because WCAG/S508 compliance is dependant on content, over which you have no control. See PVII (hi Al ;-)) for a great way to describe compliance with accessibility standards for template/component systems: http://www.projectseven.com/products/menusystems/pmm/index.htm kind regards Terrence Wood. ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] css variables
Hi Rebecca
That's it. Thanks
I see it needs php. Hm back to the drawing board. I think we need to
make it work with static html.
Oh well.
Ted
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Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 2:06 PM
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Subject: RE: [WSG] css variables
Hi Ted,
You're not thinking of these?
http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2005/08/31/the-constants-gardener/
Cheers
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On Behalf Of Drake, Ted C.
Sent: Thursday, 29 September 2005 8:33 a.m.
To: 'wsg@webstandardsgroup.org'
Subject: RE: [WSG] css variables
Hi Terrence
I'm not sure If I asked the question right. I'm not looking to do a search
and replace. I'm hoping to set a variable in the CSS, such as This is the
color of all selected links in the navigation. Then, the css would just set
that variable. All of the various rules would refer to the variable instead
of the actual hexdec number.
How would the regular expression do that?
Thanks
Ted
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On Behalf Of Terrence Wood
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 1:07 PM
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: Re: [WSG] css variables
Drake, Ted C. said:
There was a recent spat of posts about using variables in CSS.[snip]
Ouch, my 4 rule css file now grows to 54,056 lines of rules re-writing
the #f60 code. Wouldn't it be lovely if I just had
{selectedlink} : #ffcfcf ?
There's no point using a slegehammer to drive in a tack.
I usually just use a regex: s/#f60/#ffcfcf/g
Any decent editor should handle that in one form or the other.
kind regards
Terrence Wood.
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RE: [WSG] Page templates submitted for review (discard previous mail)
The best place where you can have an explanation of the table trick works is http://www.apromotionguide.com/tabletrick.html. That's where we found this trick originally. Pat From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of kvnmcwebn Sent: mercredi 28 septembre 2005 21:23 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: RE: [WSG] Page templates submitted for review (discard previous mail) -nice grids andvery quick download time. I had one questioin about the use of thetables. Could you explain how this helps? We use a table to render the main content. However, the real content will be displayed first because it spans over 2 lines 2 rows of the table). -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Pat Boens Sent: 28 September 2005 18:04 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: [WSG] Page templates submitted for review (discard previous mail) Dears, In an attempt to bring a little contribution to the world of web standards we have developed a dozen templates that we would like to submit for your review. These templates are all shared under the terms of the Attribution license of Creative Commons. We would like to obtain your comments in the following areas: 1) XHTML 1.1: quality of code (+ possible improvements) 2) CSS: quality of code (+ possible improvements) 3) WCAG: we tend to create Triple-A templates, how good are we doing? are our templates/pages really accessible? 4) Elegance of design: how good are we doing? Here are the templates: http://www.fastwrite.com/dvlonly/web/paradeigma/Liquid/Samples/tennis.html http://www.fastwrite.com/dvlonly/web/paradeigma/corporate/corporate2.html http://www.fastwrite.com/dvlonly/web/paradeigma/motoconcho/motoconcho.html http://www.fastwrite.com/dvlonly/web/paradeigma/Liquid/Liquid2.html http://www.fastwrite.com/dvlonly/web/paradeigma/Quietude/Quietude.html http://www.fastwrite.com/dvlonly/web/paradeigma/senator/senator.html http://www.fastwrite.com/dvlonly/web/paradeigma/spagyrum/spagyrum.html http://www.fastwrite.com/dvlonly/web/paradeigma/Typografia/Typografia.html http://www.fastwrite.com/dvlonly/web/paradeigma/Veritas/Veritas.html http://www.fastwrite.com/dvlonly/web/paradeigma/NewYork/NewYork.html http://www.fastwrite.com/dvlonly/web/paradeigma/Furio/Furio.html Thank you for your input. Pat Boens
RE: [WSG] Page templates submitted for review (discard previous mail)
Pat, The New York design shows up like this in a screen reader: Page has twelve links Kraainem dash NewYork dash Mozilla Firefox Summary colon Layout table Table with one column and one row Table end List of six items bullet This page link Home alt plus 1 bullet This page link News bullet This page link Contact alt plus 9 bullet This page link Sitemap alt plus s bullet This page link Skip nav alt plus 2 bullet This page link Help alt plus 0 List end List of six items bullet This page link New York bullet This page link Paris bullet This page link Milan bullet This page link Brussels bullet This page link London bullet This page link Hong Kong List end Theres still some unnecessary stuff that clutters the output. Just because it meets all the validators doesnt mean its correct on the accessiblity front. Also, I just dont see why you need a table here. Nice idea though and I like some of the designs. Thanks, Tatham Oddie Fuel Advance - Ignite Your Idea www.fueladvance.com From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pat Boens Sent: Thursday, 29 September 2005 3:04 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: [WSG] Page templates submitted for review (discard previous mail) Dears, In an attempt to bring a little contribution to the world of web standards we have developed a dozen templates that we would like to submit for your review. These templates are all shared under the terms of the Attribution license of Creative Commons. We would like to obtain your comments in the following areas: 1) XHTML 1.1: quality of code (+ possible improvements) 2) CSS: quality of code (+ possible improvements) 3) WCAG: we tend to create Triple-A templates, how good are we doing? are our templates/pages really accessible? 4) Elegance of design: how good are we doing? Here are the templates: http://www.fastwrite.com/dvlonly/web/paradeigma/Liquid/Samples/tennis.html http://www.fastwrite.com/dvlonly/web/paradeigma/corporate/corporate2.html http://www.fastwrite.com/dvlonly/web/paradeigma/motoconcho/motoconcho.html http://www.fastwrite.com/dvlonly/web/paradeigma/Liquid/Liquid2.html http://www.fastwrite.com/dvlonly/web/paradeigma/Quietude/Quietude.html http://www.fastwrite.com/dvlonly/web/paradeigma/senator/senator.html http://www.fastwrite.com/dvlonly/web/paradeigma/spagyrum/spagyrum.html http://www.fastwrite.com/dvlonly/web/paradeigma/Typografia/Typografia.html http://www.fastwrite.com/dvlonly/web/paradeigma/Veritas/Veritas.html http://www.fastwrite.com/dvlonly/web/paradeigma/NewYork/NewYork.html http://www.fastwrite.com/dvlonly/web/paradeigma/Furio/Furio.html Thank you for your input. Pat Boens
[WSG] Very strange IE glitch :(
After a few days, I've almost given up on working around this bug in IE. I've never seen it before, but hopefully one of you has: http://www.kennygraham.net/projects/newsite/bug.html Short version: IE doesnt draw certain background colors/borders. But draws them if you move another window over, then away from them vertically. It's insane. Check it out. I tried removing all transparent background declarations and all background images, and it still did it. So I put them back. Please help? ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
[WSG] Resizing issues in IE
Hello, This is something i remember having to deal with years ago...although it was a Netscape issue not an IE on. I have a nasty 3 column design that falls apart when the window is resized (IE ONLY). I'm hoping one of you lovely people would have come across this problem before and perhaps have a solution (other than recoding...) The website in question is: http://fullcompass.netconcepts.com/ I've noticed the error only in IE. Any help or ideas would be very much appreciated! Thanks Darren ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Very strange IE glitch :(
On 9/29/05, Kenny Graham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: After a few days, I've almost given up on working around this bug in IE. I've never seen it before, but hopefully one of you has: http://www.kennygraham.net/projects/newsite/bug.html [...] Please help? Think this is the Peek-a-boo bug you see. http://positioniseverything.net/explorer/peekaboo.html Adding position:relative to #content might fix this. -- nils 9ls.org ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] Very strange IE glitch :(
Hi Kenny This sounds like some of the odd background painting bugs that happen with IE. Here's my advice. Start adding position:relative and/or height:1% to the targeted elements and their parents one at a time. It goes back to the ever popular haslayout issue. Look at positioniseverything.com for more information on this and other beauties. Ted -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kenny Graham Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 3:20 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: [WSG] Very strange IE glitch :( After a few days, I've almost given up on working around this bug in IE. I've never seen it before, but hopefully one of you has: http://www.kennygraham.net/projects/newsite/bug.html Short version: IE doesnt draw certain background colors/borders. But draws them if you move another window over, then away from them vertically. It's insane. Check it out. I tried removing all transparent background declarations and all background images, and it still did it. So I put them back. Please help? ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] Page templates submitted for review (discard previous mail)
Pat Boens said: 3) We shall be more cautious about the claim of WCAG indeed. You're totally right on this. Thanks for spotting it. Do you mind if we use a somewhat close statement as Project Seven's? I don't mind at all, but then it's not my content =) kind regards Terrence Wood. ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] css variables
yeah, I thought you meant you were using 56K lines of code to replace 4 lines of CSS... sounded like overkill to me when a one line regex can do the same thing. Constants and variables are not going to part of CSS any time soon, so you will need some kind of server side solution - a few are mentioned in this thread already. AFAIK they all use seom form of regex to do the replacement, so s/selectedLink/#f60/g still works for me =) kind regards Terrence Wood. Drake, Ted C. said: Hi Terrence I'm not sure If I asked the question right. I'm not looking to do a search and replace. I'm hoping to set a variable in the CSS, such as This is the color of all selected links in the navigation. Then, the css would just set that variable. All of the various rules would refer to the variable instead of the actual hexdec number. How would the regular expression do that? Thanks Ted ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Page templates submitted for review (discard previous mail)
semi-related: your main site (fastwrite.com) scrolls horizontally forever in firefox ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Resizing issues in IE
Darren Wood wrote:
I have a nasty 3 column design that falls apart when the window is
resized.
http://fullcompass.netconcepts.com/
I've noticed the error only in IE.
You may try adding:
#pageWrapper {position: relative; _height: 0;}
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Re: [WSG] Page templates submitted for review
From a general readability point of view, the justified text spoils your layouts. This page is a good example: http://www.fastwrite.com/dvlonly/web/paradeigma/Veritas/Veritas.html Regards, Stuart ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] css variables
Terrence Wood wrote:
Constants and variables are not going to part of CSS any time soon, so you
will need some kind of server side solution ...
AFAIK they all use seom form of regex to do the replacement
Well, no -- I frequently use variables in style sheets built in JSP,
especially early on in development. And there it's simple Expression
Language (EL) variable substitution, so something like this:
a:hover, a:focus { color: ${contrastColor}; }
can be evaluated per site, per session, or even per request, making
it really easy to test, tune, and/or customize...
FWIW!
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Re: [WSG] css variables
Hassan Schroeder wrote:
Terrence Wood wrote:
Constants and variables are not going to part of CSS any time soon,
so you will need some kind of server side solution ...
AFAIK they all use seom form of regex to do the replacement
Well, no -- I frequently use variables in style sheets built in JSP,
especially early on in development. And there it's simple Expression
Language (EL) variable substitution, so something like this:
a:hover, a:focus { color: ${contrastColor}; }
can be evaluated per site, per session, or even per request, making
it really easy to test, tune, and/or customize...
And as a side note, with MSIE, it is possible to give an ASP extension to
the styles sheet to use scripting logic within that file.
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Re: [WSG] css variables
G'day Thierry Koblentz wrote: And as a side note, with MSIE, it is possible to give an ASP extension to the styles sheet to use scripting logic within that file. ASP, PHP or whatever server side language you use, as long as you set the appropriate content type on (in) the file (be it css.asp, css.php or whatever) it should work in more browsers than just MSIE. I just ran a test and it worked fine in Opera 8, Firefox, MSIE6 and MSIE5 PC. If it's served as text/css and the output is valid css, it shouldn't matter what the extension is. Regards -- Bert Doorn, Better Web Design http://www.betterwebdesign.com.au/ Fast-loading, user-friendly websites ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] css variables
Bert Doorn wrote: ASP, PHP or whatever server side language you use, as long as you set the appropriate content type on (in) the file (be it css.asp, css.php or whatever) it should work in more browsers than just MSIE. I just ran a test and it worked fine in Opera 8, Firefox, MSIE6 and MSIE5 PC. If it's served as text/css and the output is valid css, it shouldn't matter what the extension is. If I said MSIE it's because one does *not* need to change the MIME type ;) Thierry | www.TJKDesign.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Page templates submitted for review (discard previous mail)
From: Pat Boens [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1) We shall change the order the links to put the Skip to content link consistent across the templates. Should Home and Skip to content be the two first links? 2) We are going to modify the 2 column layout to use div only. Thanks for mentioning it. 3) We shall be more cautious about the claim of WCAG indeed. You're totally right on this. Thanks for spotting it. Do you mind if we use a somewhat close statement as Project Seven's? Neither Terrence nor we mind :-) Al Sparber PVII http://www.projectseven.com Designing with CSS is sometimes like barreling down a crumbling mountain road at 90 miles per hour secure in the knowledge that repairs are scheduled for next Tuesday. ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Page templates submitted for review (discard previous mail)
LOL, I can't help but laugh on this one. There's two tiny little links with absolute positioning placing them thousands of pixels to the RIGHT... and somehow they aren't lost on the page. They ought to be placed thousands of pixels to the TOP, so that they won't make a scrollbar appear. On 9/28/05, Kenny Graham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: semi-related:your main site (fastwrite.com) scrolls horizontallyforever in firefox**The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
