Re: [WSG] CSS Driven?

2005-12-17 Thread Bob Schwartz
Terrence. Plus I don't want to get into the quirks of clients in this thread, I'd like to concentrate on finding a solution to a real problem that is as reliable (browser-wise) and as easy to implement as it is with a table, Sure... clients who needs them? But see the real problem is

Re: [WSG] CSS Driven?

2005-12-17 Thread Rick Faaberg
Why do you assume I didn't? Its this type of flawed assumptions that has caused this thread to wander all over the landscape without arriving at a solution to the problem at hand. And over the last few months, the list has devolved into unending threads that serve nothing wrt web standards.

Re: [WSG] Frames ?

2005-12-17 Thread Terrence Wood
On 17 Dec 2005, at 6:46 PM, Thierry Koblentz wrote: Terrence Wood wrote: Have I missed something or is this just, erm, frames using javascript instead of a static page? I'm not sure I understand your question. Isn't what the OP is looking for? Being able to link to *and* frame other web

Re: [WSG] CSS Driven?

2005-12-17 Thread Bob Schwartz
Christian, Do these table layouts go in your portfolio? Since you asked. I have my very first site in my portfolio and it is a nested table/spacer gif monster. But except for you guys, I doubt if anyone has ever done a view source on the site. Do these clients recommend you to others

Re: [WSG] CSS Driven?

2005-12-17 Thread Terrence Wood
On 17 Dec 2005, at 9:04 PM, Bob Schwartz wrote: Do you think you are being helpful? Believe me, you're not. I think I made it pretty clear that I was having a general rant, not talking directly to you Bob. I was just using your situation as a jumping off point. On 17 Dec 2005, at 9:06 AM,

Re: [WSG] CSS Driven?

2005-12-17 Thread Bob Schwartz
Terrence, Obviously you haven't found this thread helpful, but others have. Oddly enough I have, though the (seems to be) answer came in off list. If after doing some testing, the solution does indeed work as I need it to, I will post it for those who remember what the original question

[WSG] XHTML1.1 differences - was [ Fixed Height: Headers and Footers]

2005-12-17 Thread designer
Christian Montoya wrote: [snip ] Are you serving the webpages as mime-type application/xhtml+xml ? Because that is the only mime-type that should be used with XHTML 1.1. Otherwise if you are going to use text/html then you should use XHTML 1.0 Strict or HTML

Re: [WSG] XHTML1.1 differences

2005-12-17 Thread Lachlan Hunt
designer wrote: Are you serving the webpages as mime-type application/xhtml+xml ? Because that is the only mime-type that should be used with XHTML 1.1. It can also use application/xml or text/xml (although it's best to avoid text/xml completely), or other appropriate XML MIME type. Only 3

Re: [WSG] Site Critic

2005-12-17 Thread Srecko Micic
Uf, needs much more work. As Jay said it's bold move by posting this site to this group. Follow the standards but first learn them. All the best, 2005/12/16, Jay Gilmore [EMAIL PROTECTED]: This is a standards group and as such I think it would be best if you checked your sites in a browser

Re: [WSG] Site Critic

2005-12-17 Thread James O'Neill
Cheree ,One of the first things you will want to do is to validate your code. That will be of a tremedous help not only to your development process, but it will also go a long way towards getting more answers here. Validation is your friend!! You can pick up Chris Pedericks developer tool bar for

Re: [WSG] Site Critic

2005-12-17 Thread James O'Neill
Cheree, One of the first things I will say it looks like you might be writing this in MS Frontpage! You have a lot of inline javascipt: Your may want to take a look at Unobtrusive Javascript http://www.onlinetools.org/articles/unobtrusivejavascript/ Keeping your javascript in an external

Re: [WSG] Fixed Height: Headers and Footers

2005-12-17 Thread CHRISTOPHER MEEK
Thanks for your pointers, unfortunately it's for a client intranet site and they exclusively use I.E. 6 (more's the pitty) . I modified your suggestion to used position: absolute and have a fixed height (which i can just about work with), which although means i don't get the same scroll bar

[WSG] the kind of assignment that makes you want to scream

2005-12-17 Thread Ted Drake
Can you imagine being the one stuck with creating this navigation scheme? http://shop2.outpost.com/product/4600108?site=sr:SEARCH:MAIN_RSLT_PG holy moley, mother of all tabs. It makes me itch just looking at it. Ted Drake Front-end Engineer Yahoo! Tech

Re: [WSG] the kind of assignment that makes you want to scream

2005-12-17 Thread Marko Mihelcic - founder of mcville.net (http.//www.mcville.net)|(http://board.mcville.net)
lol heh m8 I'm like O_O nah this can't be posible :) Good luck :)2005/12/17, Ted Drake [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Can you imagine being the one stuck with creating this navigation scheme? http://shop2.outpost.com/product/4600108?site=sr:SEARCH:MAIN_RSLT_PG holy moley, mother of all tabs.

RE: [WSG] the kind of assignment that makes you want to scream

2005-12-17 Thread Duckworth, Nigel
Can you imagine being the one stuck with creating this navigation scheme? http://shop2.outpost.com/product/4600108?site=sr:SEARCH:MAIN_RSLT_PG Ouch. Didn't Amazon look like that for a while? Buy a House | Sell a House | Adopt a Child | Sell a Child... -Nigel

Re: [WSG] the kind of assignment that makes you want to scream

2005-12-17 Thread Zulema
Ted Drake wrote: Can you imagine being the one stuck with creating this navigation scheme? http://shop2.outpost.com/product/4600108?site=sr:SEARCH:MAIN_RSLT_PG holy moley, mother of all tabs. It makes me itch just looking at it. Who agreed that having the pull-downs cover up some of the

Re: [WSG] the kind of assignment that makes you want to scream

2005-12-17 Thread Terrence Wood
On 18 Dec 2005, at 9:16 AM, Ted Drake wrote: Can you imagine being the one stuck with creating this navigation scheme? Yes, but worse, can you imagine being stuck using this nav without a search function? Now, just to steal your thread Ted, will the fans of drop down menus please visit this

Re: [WSG] the kind of assignment that makes you want to scream

2005-12-17 Thread Thierry Koblentz
Ted Drake wrote: Can you imagine being the one stuck with creating this navigation scheme? http://shop2.outpost.com/product/4600108?site=sr:SEARCH:MAIN_RSLT_PG Hi Ted, Wow! Graphic tabs + flyout menu altogether! Jaws announces 128 links on the home page ;) Thierry | www.TJKDesign.com

Re: [WSG] the kind of assignment that makes you want to scream

2005-12-17 Thread Kenny Graham
i like tabs as much as anybody else, but when it's _that_ bad, it's time to move them from the top to the side. wouldn't look nearly as bad as a vertical nav, and wouldnt have the flyouts covering 50% of the remaining nav ** The discussion list

Re: [WSG] XHTML1.1 differences

2005-12-17 Thread Christian Montoya
On 12/17/05, Lachlan Hunt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: designer wrote: Only 3 differences? I seem to remember more than a dozen . . . What are your 3? There's 3 listed in the XHTML 1.1 Appendix A [1]. However, there are other undocumented changes too. That's what I was remembering. Probably

Re: [WSG] XHTML1.1 differences

2005-12-17 Thread José Kusunoki Gutiérrez
Hello, Does anyone can help me? I want to know why in IE my side bar is wrong i mean the bullets are not in the rigth place, and when i see it in Firefox its ok... is there a css hack that i need for IE? Thanks for your help. - Original Message - From: Christian Montoya [EMAIL

[WSG] Help with CSS ul

2005-12-17 Thread José Kusunoki Gutiérrez
Hello,Does anyone can help me?I want to know why in IE my side bar is wrong i mean the bullets are not in the rigth place, and when i see it in Firefox its ok... is there a css hack that i need for IE?Thanks for your help. PD: Sorry about the last message that i sent it had the wrong

Re: [WSG] Help with CSS ul

2005-12-17 Thread matt
Jose - Probably a margin padding issue. Try reducing the padding margin and position the bullets with the xy positioning on the background rule for the li or a:li. I'm not that great with css, you'll probably get some better answers. Have a nice holiday. Matt Hello, Does anyone can help me?

Re: [WSG] Help with CSS ul

2005-12-17 Thread Lachlan Hunt
José Kusunoki Gutiérrez wrote: I want to know why in IE my side bar is wrong i mean the bullets are not in the rigth place, and when i see it in Firefox its ok... is there a css hack that i need for IE? No-one can possibly offer you any useful advice on how to solve this problem because you

Re: [WSG] Help with CSS ul

2005-12-17 Thread Jorge Laranjo
I think that is http://www.constantconcept.com/ On 18/12/05 1:25, Lachlan Hunt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No-one can possibly offer you any useful advice on how to solve this problem because you haven't provided a link, we can't see the problem for ourselves, we don't know what styles you have

Re: [WSG] Help with CSS ul

2005-12-17 Thread Lachlan Hunt
Jorge Laranjo wrote: On 18/12/05 1:25, Lachlan Hunt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No-one can possibly offer you any useful advice on how to solve this problem because you haven't provided a link, we can't see the problem for ourselves, we don't know what styles you have applied and thus have no

[WSG] So Sorry

2005-12-17 Thread José Kusunoki Gutiérrez
though that i had put it www.constantconcept.com and the css is http://constantconcept.com/wp-content/themes/mio/style.css Thank you very much and sorry again about i didnt put the links --José Kusunoki G.Diseñador[EMAIL

Re: [WSG] Help with CSS ul

2005-12-17 Thread russ - maxdesign
Hey Jose, It seems that you are referring to the li elements within the #contentright div? I don¹t have IE in front of me but there is a known whitespace bug to do with IE and list items. There are a range of methods that can be used to fix it including: 1. floating the li 2. setting the a

[WSG] Posting and discussions on the WSG list

2005-12-17 Thread russ - maxdesign
Hi all, Generally speaking, the WSG list has a great vibe - with members helping each other and offering advice. However, I have been concerned with a recent trend on list. There seems to be an element of lecturing, chest beating and heavy-handed criticism. Can I ask all members to think of a

Re: [WSG] Help with CSS ul

2005-12-17 Thread Steve Clason
On 12/17/2005 5:36 PM José Kusunoki Gutiérrez wrote: I want to know why in IE my side bar is wrong i mean the bullets are not in the rigth place, and when i see it in Firefox its ok... is there a css hack that i need for IE? Hi José, I don't think you need a hack for IE, just to set the line

Re: [WSG] Help with CSS ul

2005-12-17 Thread Thierry Koblentz
José Kusunoki Gutiérrez wrote: Hello, Does anyone can help me? I want to know why in IE my side bar is wrong i mean the bullets are not in the rigth place, and when i see it in Firefox its ok... is there a css hack that i need for IE? Thanks for your help. José, Before you try to fix the