Re: [WSG] running ie7 on my mac??

2008-01-25 Thread James Ellis
Hi Kevin One option is to use VirtualBox (virtualbox.org) which is virtualisation software written in Qt. Looks to have Mac OSX host capabilities (http://forums.virtualbox.org/viewforum.php?f=8) I use the open source edition in KDE and run all the Windows browsers in an XP guest for testing.

RE: [WSG] Background images versus image

2008-01-25 Thread Likely, James A.
Agreed thanks, I don't know much about JavaScript, but is there really a way to make sure that you get all users? From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Woods Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 2:33 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org

Re: [WSG] Background images versus image

2008-01-25 Thread Christian Snodgrass
I actually found a nice image-enabled testing script which works well: http://webgeekblog.com/2007/04/15/unobtrusive-javascript-for-detecting-whether-images-are-enabled-or-not/ I tried using the onload even, but that will still go off even if images are disabled. Thomas Thomassen wrote: You

Re: [WSG] Background images versus image

2008-01-25 Thread Thomas Thomassen
You could make the javascript trigger on the image onload events. Though, I think some older version of Opera, v8 or 7.54, doesn't support the onLoad event for images. - Original Message - From: Christian Snodgrass [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Sent: Saturday,

Re: [WSG] Background images versus image

2008-01-25 Thread Christian Snodgrass
That script has two flaws that reduce it's user base: 1) As said many times now, Javascript+CSS-Images = unusable 2) The imaged version doesn't work in Safari. In Safari, it shows up as the default (to me, this isn't acceptable). Also, if anyone isn't aware, Safari is the major browser for Mac

Re: [WSG] Background images versus image

2008-01-25 Thread Christian Snodgrass
In this particular case, the script will fail and fall back to the default look of the radio and check boxes if either Javascript or CSS is missing, which is good. The only problem in this case is if Javascript and CSS -are- available, but images are not. In that case, it becomes 100%

Re: [WSG] Background images versus image

2008-01-25 Thread Christian Snodgrass
I haven't tested on many screen readers, but from what I understand, most have CSS disabled, so it would read this as a regular form. However, there is the possibility that someone uses a regular browser with screen reading technology (just like what you could use to read a document in Word).

RE: [WSG] Background images versus image

2008-01-25 Thread Likely, James A.
Thanks for the emails. Some things I didn't think of but will from now on. I have been doing some reading and looking at options and found this example. http://www.chriserwin.com/scripts/crir/ What are your thoughts on this approach? To me it looks pretty user friendly. Please let me know

Re: [WSG] Background images versus image

2008-01-25 Thread Christian Snodgrass
That isn't bad, but if you have Javascript and CSS, but no images, it fails completely. Likely, James A. wrote: Thanks for the emails. Some things I didn't think of but will from now on. I have been doing some reading and looking at options and found this example.

[WSG] Out of Office AutoReply: WSG Digest

2008-01-25 Thread Martin Skinner
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Re: [WSG] Background images versus image

2008-01-25 Thread Dave Woods
What are the chances of that happening? I would think it would be very slim wouldn't it? You'd be surprised... I know a few dialup users who browse with images disabled to speed up loading times but leave CSS and JavaScript on so that the presentation and any enhanced functionality is still

RE: [WSG] Background images versus image

2008-01-25 Thread Likely, James A.
What are the chances of that happening? I would think it would be very slim wouldn't it? From all of the examples that I have seen this is the one that accommodates most users. How would a screen reader read this option? Has any one tested something similar to the example that I found? Thanks

Re: [WSG] running ie7 on my mac??

2008-01-25 Thread Gregory Alan Gross
Had a terrible time on my Intel MacBook with Parallels Desktop; it refused to play nice with OS X Leopard. Wouldn't even install properly. Switched to VMware Fusion, and haven't had a problem since. g. On Fri , kevin mcmonagle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> sent: Hi, Whats my cheapest option for

Re: [WSG] Background images versus image

2008-01-25 Thread Thomas Thomassen
Most mobile phones won't use Javascript or CSS either. And the usage of handheld devices is rapidly increasing. So is other gadgets. Nintendo DS for instance. We can't assume that only browser applications is used to access our webpages. - Original Message - From: Christian Snodgrass

[WSG] Re: WSG Digest (Out-of-office)

2008-01-25 Thread Eleanor Tan
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