Agreed thanks, I don't know much about JavaScript, but is there really a way to make sure that you get all users?
________________________________ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Woods Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 2:33 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Background images versus image "What are the chances of that happening? I would think it would be very slim wouldn't it?" You'd be surprised... I know a few dialup users who browse with images disabled to speed up loading times but leave CSS and JavaScript on so that the presentation and any enhanced functionality is still available. I agree that these types of users are in the minority but they do exist. On 25/01/2008, Likely, James A. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From all of the examples that I have seen this is the one that accommodates most users. How would a screen reader read this option? Has any one tested something similar to the example that I found? Thanks again for the help. James -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Christian Snodgrass Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 1:03 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Background images versus image That isn't bad, but if you have Javascript and CSS, but no images, it fails completely. Likely, James A. wrote: > Thanks for the emails. Some things I didn't think of but will from now > on. I have been doing some reading and looking at options and found > this example. > > http://www.chriserwin.com/scripts/crir/ > > What are your thoughts on this approach? > > To me it looks pretty user friendly. > > Please let me know as this is new to me. > > Thanks > > James > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Dave Woods > *Sent:* Wednesday, January 23, 2008 8:59 AM > *To:* wsg@webstandardsgroup.org > *Subject:* Re: [WSG] Background images versus image > > The first question I'd ask is why not just use check boxes instead of > trying to replicate them? If you mark them up correctly then there's > really no better accessible method than using the correct element as > it was meant. > > If you go down this route then you're likely to create all kinds of > problems for yourself... what happens when users don't have css > available (mobile devices), images disabled (dialup users) or are > using screenreaders. > > If you want to change the appearance then I'd use JavaScript to > enhance the existing check boxes but for those user agents that don't > support JavaScript or have it disabled you should have the fall back > of regular forms. > > Hope that helps. > > - - - - - > http://www.dave-woods.co.uk > > > On 23/01/2008, *Likely, James A.* < [EMAIL PROTECTED] > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote: > > Hello, > > I am working on a new site for a client and need some thoughts on > a problem that I have. > > I am making a list with clickable boxes (like input boxes) that > have a checked, disabled and clickable state. My question is, what > would work best. Using background images or adding images to the > code. > > The reason I ask is > > 1) If I use images, we can add alt text to describe what function > the images have. This would help with screen readers and people > with disabilities. > > 2) Background images keep the code clean but wonder about the alt > text and how screen readers and people with disabilities would > read the site. Is there a way to imitate the alt for background > images? > > You can see an example of both ways at: > > Using images: _http://wisconsin.joekiosk.com/list/list.html_ > Using background images: > _http://wisconsin.joekiosk.com/list/list2.html_ > > Let me know your thoughts and what you think would work best. I > love the background images as the code is clean, but has any one > done any testing to see how this would work for screen readers or > do you have suggestions on how to make it more accessible? > > Thanks for the help. > > James > > > ******************************************************************* > List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm > Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm > <http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm> > Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > ******************************************************************* > > > > ******************************************************************* > List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm > Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm > Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ******************************************************************* > ******************************************************************* > List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm > Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm > Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ******************************************************************* -- Christian Snodgrass Azure Ronin Web Design http://www.arwebdesign.net/ <http://www.arwebdesign.net> Phone: 859.816.7955 ******************************************************************* List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ******************************************************************* ******************************************************************* List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ******************************************************************* ******************************************************************* List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ******************************************************************* ******************************************************************* List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *******************************************************************
