Re: [WSG] Browser loading images issue

2008-10-15 Thread Christian Montoya
On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 2:55 PM, Kristine Cummins
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi all,

 I'm still having this issue as the client is contacting about images simply
 not showing up but on refresh, they do. Frustrating as I don't know how to
 solve this issue.

 The page is http://www.cpwrehab.com/employee_listing.html
 Stylesheet is: http://www.cpwrehab.com/styles.css


I noticed you have some CSS hacks like:

* html #container,
* html #headercontainer {
height: 1%; overflow: visible;
}


If you remove those, does this problem go away?

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RE: [WSG] Browser loading images issue

2008-10-15 Thread Paul Bennett
Hi there,

A bit left field, but I've had this issues *similar* to this before. It sounds 
like a network or ISP cache issue.

Once it was a company proxy not grabbing the latest files from the webserver 
and serving up old code, the other time, an ISP was caching website data in 
their proxy to limit load on their webservers.

In the 2nd instance, we had to call the ISP and have them manually remove the 
domain form their cache list.

You may want to contact the ISP / hosting company to make sure the site isn't 
on a cache list.

Worth a shot (the site looks fine for me here in New Zealand :) )

Paul


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[WSG] Browser loading images issue

2008-10-15 Thread Adam Cooper

Hi Kristine,

Are they inline images, or images from within a stylesheet?
Are you able to provide a link to the site?

Cheers,
Adam


From: Kristine Cummins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 11:55:03 -0700
Subject: Browser loading images issue

Hi all,

I'm still having this issue as the client is contacting about images  
simply
not showing up but on refresh, they do. Frustrating as I don't know  
how to

solve this issue.

The page is http://www.cpwrehab.com/employee_listing.html
Stylesheet is: http://www.cpwrehab.com/styles.css


Thanks,
Kristine




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[WSG] Forms - Drop down width

2008-10-15 Thread Likely, James A.
Hello,

I am working on a registration form and found a problem with how IE7
handles the drop downs.

If I set a width in the CSS on the drop down, the text will not wrap and
be cut off. I don't want to have to set a full width as the drop down is
reminder answers and will be a bit long.

Does any one know how to control the drop down width and to make it so
the text wraps.

Any help would be great!

Example code is:
form
label for=questionReminder question:/label
select name= id=question width=200 style=width:200px;
optionSelect a Reminder Question/option
optionWhat is the first and last name of your first boyfriend or
girlfriend? /option
optionWhich phone number do you remember most from your
childhood?/option
optionWhat was your favorite place to visit as a child? /option
optionWho is your favorite actor, musician, or artist?/option
/select
/form

Thanks

Jamie


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[WSG] RE: Forms - Drop down width

2008-10-15 Thread Damian Edwards
AKAIK drop-downs are one line only, i.e. there is no way to make text wrap. The 
usual solution is to set the title attribute of each option element so that at 
least the user can hover over an option to see its full text, but it's a 
sub-optimal solution really.
Regards,
Damian Edwards
Microsoft MVPhttps://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/Damian.Edwards | 
ASP/ASP.NET
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Sent: Thursday, 16 October 2008 09:02
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: [WSG] Forms - Drop down width


Hello,

I am working on a registration form and found a problem with how IE7 handles 
the drop downs.

If I set a width in the CSS on the drop down, the text will not wrap and be cut 
off. I don't want to have to set a full width as the drop down is reminder 
answers and will be a bit long.

Does any one know how to control the drop down width and to make it so the text 
wraps.

Any help would be great!

Example code is:
form
label for=questionReminder question:/label
select name= id=question width=200 style=width:200px;
optionSelect a Reminder Question/option
optionWhat is the first and last name of your first boyfriend or girlfriend? 
/option
optionWhich phone number do you remember most from your childhood?/option
optionWhat was your favorite place to visit as a child? /option
optionWho is your favorite actor, musician, or artist?/option
/select
/form

Thanks

Jamie

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[WSG] Chrome and Safari

2008-10-15 Thread cf

Hi,

Seeing as though Google's new Chrome browser uses the same rendering  
engine as Apple's Safari, would it be acceptable to test browser  
layout issues in Chrome and assume the same CSS solutions apply in  
Safari?


Does anyone know of any distinct differences in CSS rendering between  
the 2 browsers?

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RE: [WSG] Chrome and Safari

2008-10-15 Thread Damian Edwards
From what I can tell Safari 3.1 for Windows and Google Chrome use exactly the 
same version of WebKit (according to their respective user agents anyway), so 
they should render identically. JavaScript  DOM support is a different matter 
though.

Regards,
Damian Edwards
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Subject: [WSG] Chrome and Safari

Hi,

Seeing as though Google's new Chrome browser uses the same rendering
engine as Apple's Safari, would it be acceptable to test browser
layout issues in Chrome and assume the same CSS solutions apply in
Safari?

Does anyone know of any distinct differences in CSS rendering between
the 2 browsers?
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Fagan Design
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Re: [WSG] Chrome and Safari

2008-10-15 Thread Brett Patterson
May I ask how so, for future reference please?

On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 8:59 PM, Damian Edwards
[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:

 From what I can tell Safari 3.1 for Windows and Google Chrome use exactly
 the same version of WebKit (according to their respective user agents
 anyway), so they should render identically. JavaScript  DOM support is a
 different matter though.

 Regards,
 Damian Edwards
 Microsoft MVP | ASP/ASP.NET
 Readify | Senior Consultant
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 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | W: www.readify.net

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 Subject: [WSG] Chrome and Safari

 Hi,

 Seeing as though Google's new Chrome browser uses the same rendering
 engine as Apple's Safari, would it be acceptable to test browser
 layout issues in Chrome and assume the same CSS solutions apply in
 Safari?

 Does anyone know of any distinct differences in CSS rendering between
 the 2 browsers?
 ___
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RE: [WSG] Chrome and Safari

2008-10-15 Thread Damian Edwards
They are different engines from a JavaScript  DOM perspective. So while they 
both support most of the same JavaScript  DOM features, there are differences 
so you need to exercise the usual caution. I don't know what the differences 
are exactly but I've seen sites that have JS fail in Chrome that works in 
Safari 3.1.

Regards,
Damian Edwards
Microsoft MVPhttps://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/Damian.Edwards | 
ASP/ASP.NET
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brett Patterson
Sent: Thursday, 16 October 2008 12:06
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: Re: [WSG] Chrome and Safari

May I ask how so, for future reference please?
On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 8:59 PM, Damian Edwards [EMAIL 
PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From what I can tell Safari 3.1 for Windows and Google Chrome use exactly the 
same version of WebKit (according to their respective user agents anyway), so 
they should render identically. JavaScript  DOM support is a different matter 
though.

Regards,
Damian Edwards
Microsoft MVP | ASP/ASP.NEThttp://ASP.NET
Readify | Senior Consultant
M: 0448 545 868 | E: [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | C: [EMAIL 
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Subject: [WSG] Chrome and Safari

Hi,

Seeing as though Google's new Chrome browser uses the same rendering
engine as Apple's Safari, would it be acceptable to test browser
layout issues in Chrome and assume the same CSS solutions apply in
Safari?

Does anyone know of any distinct differences in CSS rendering between
the 2 browsers?
___
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Fagan Design
fagandesign.com.auhttp://fagandesign.com.au


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[WSG] Question about presenting numeric percentages and accessibility.

2008-10-15 Thread John Unsworth
Hi all,
Just a quick question. I'm writing up a website for a simple brochure
site, and the copy I'm provided with refers to something 1/3 of
total or colour 2/3 of natural and so on. And it just occured to
me, would Number Slash Number (ie; 1/2) cause any issue in regards
accessibility, be it screen readers or poor reading or math skills
(the correct term for this alludes me for the moment, I'm thinking
dyslexia, but not sure that correctly accounts for all potential
users). As such I wondered if the abbr tag might be appropriate, or
if anyone has a better, more suitable sugestion?
Many thanks,
John Unsworth.


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Re: [WSG] Question about presenting numeric percentages and accessibility.

2008-10-15 Thread Todd Budnikas

i would use the unicode entity for fractions:
http://tlt.its.psu.edu/suggestions/international/bylanguage/mathchart.html#fractions

so, 2/3 would be pcolour #8532; of natural.../p




Hi all,
Just a quick question. I'm writing up a website for a simple brochure
site, and the copy I'm provided with refers to something 1/3 of
total or colour 2/3 of natural and so on. And it just occured to
me, would Number Slash Number (ie; 1/2) cause any issue in regards
accessibility, be it screen readers or poor reading or math skills
(the correct term for this alludes me for the moment, I'm thinking
dyslexia, but not sure that correctly accounts for all potential
users). As such I wondered if the abbr tag might be appropriate, or
if anyone has a better, more suitable sugestion?
Many thanks,
John Unsworth.



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Re: [WSG] Question about presenting numeric percentages and accessibility.

2008-10-15 Thread Henrik Madsen


What about writing it out: one-third, two-thirds, half?



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On 16/10/2008, at 10:01 AM, John Unsworth wrote:


Hi all,
Just a quick question. I'm writing up a website for a simple brochure
site, and the copy I'm provided with refers to something 1/3 of
total or colour 2/3 of natural and so on. And it just occured to
me, would Number Slash Number (ie; 1/2) cause any issue in regards
accessibility, be it screen readers or poor reading or math skills
(the correct term for this alludes me for the moment, I'm thinking
dyslexia, but not sure that correctly accounts for all potential
users). As such I wondered if the abbr tag might be appropriate, or
if anyone has a better, more suitable sugestion?
Many thanks,
John Unsworth.


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RE: [WSG] Browser loading images issue

2008-10-15 Thread Tony Paterson
Hi all 
I am looking for tenders for 
1. search engine sites  both. .com.au and .com
2. .com.au classifieds site
3. News site both .com and .com.au
Anyone interested on quoting please contact me
Thanks
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Subject: [WSG] Browser loading images issue

Hi all,

I'm still having this issue as the client is contacting about images simply
not showing up but on refresh, they do. Frustrating as I don't know how to
solve this issue. 

The page is http://www.cpwrehab.com/employee_listing.html
Stylesheet is: http://www.cpwrehab.com/styles.css


Thanks,
Kristine


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Sent: Friday, October 10, 2008 11:28 AM
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Subject: [WSG] Browser loading images issue

I noticed that sometimes some images will not load upon visiting a page
while others on the page will, but when I hit the browser's refresh button,
the image will load. This was happening in IE, but no other browser. Anyone
have any ideas how to fix this issue?

Thanks,
Kristine



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Re: [WSG] Question about presenting numeric percentages and accessibility.

2008-10-15 Thread Nikita The Spider The Spider
On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 10:01 PM, John Unsworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi all,
 Just a quick question. I'm writing up a website for a simple brochure
 site, and the copy I'm provided with refers to something 1/3 of
 total or colour 2/3 of natural and so on. And it just occured to
 me, would Number Slash Number (ie; 1/2) cause any issue in regards
 accessibility, be it screen readers or poor reading or math skills
 (the correct term for this alludes me for the moment, I'm thinking
 dyslexia, but not sure that correctly accounts for all potential
 users). As such I wondered if the abbr tag might be appropriate, or
 if anyone has a better, more suitable sugestion?

Why not enter the Unicode fraction characters directly? It's not easy
to enter them from they keyboard, so what I usually do is enter them
as references (e.g. frac34; or #8532; as Todd B. suggested) and then
copy  paste them from the browser window into my text editor. It
makes the source HTML much easier to read.

Here's an example. The section called Encodings has a 2/3 in it, and
there's some other fractions floating around in there too:
http://NikitaTheSpider.com/articles/ByTheNumbers/fall2008.html

HTH

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Re: [WSG] Chrome and Safari

2008-10-15 Thread Jon Warner
Not from what I've seen - safari (pc based) can be fine, chrome not. I'd 
have to go through my history somewhat to link theese pages/sites but if 
you must have the proof...


At the end of the day never assume 'just cos one works another similar 
will'. Chrome may be based on something, doesn;t make it work identical. 
My twin is based off the same genetics - but he's an asshole ;)


Jon

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Hi,

Seeing as though Google's new Chrome browser uses the same rendering 
engine as Apple's Safari, would it be acceptable to test browser 
layout issues in Chrome and assume the same CSS solutions apply in 
Safari?


Does anyone know of any distinct differences in CSS rendering between 
the 2 browsers?

___
Christian Fagan
Fagan Design
fagandesign.com.au


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Re: [WSG] Question about presenting numeric percentages and accessibility.

2008-10-15 Thread Jon Warner




Could you use spans or divs (inline) to add title/other descriptive
tags? I'm planning a voluntary site for a day nursery and am looking to
make it perfect, as a portfolio piece but as a learning platform also.
In other words I'd appreciate others more experienced opinions.

Regards

Jon

Henrik Madsen wrote:

  
  
  What
about writing it out: one-third, two-thirds, half?
  
  
  
  

  


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Hi all,
Just a quick question. I'm writing up a website for a simple brochure
site, and the copy I'm provided with refers to "something 1/3 of
total" or "colour 2/3 of natural" and so on. And it just occured to
me, would Number Slash Number (ie; 1/2) cause any issue in regards
accessibility, be it screen readers or poor reading or math skills
(the correct term for this alludes me for the moment, I'm thinking
dyslexia, but not sure that correctly accounts for all potential
users). As such I wondered if the abbr tag might be
appropriate, or
if anyone has a better, more suitable sugestion?
Many thanks,
John Unsworth.


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