hi.
i know front page is no longer around.
but will expression web work well with jaws.
need to use a wiyziwig html editor.
any suggestions or recommendations.
thank you.
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I rather liked the conditionals around the body. What's not to like?
Imho, it goes against the separation of structure and presentation
(plus it
messes up with the cascade), but I can understand why they are doing
this.
Since most people strongly believe that CSS validation is a must,
th
> I rather liked the conditionals around the body. What's not to like?
Imho, it goes against the separation of structure and presentation (plus it
messes up with the cascade), but I can understand why they are doing this.
Since most people strongly believe that CSS validation is a must, they have
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No, I'm suggesting that if you truly want to learn html5 semantics you need to
build a site without divs. Once you understand the semantics you can better
understand why you would use the new tags and why you would fall back to divs.
But to continue working with divs that have semantic class nam
> Take a look at the js, it's pretty simple.
> However, it is true that you are leaving yourself open. At Yahoo, we treat
> IE6 as an a-level browser. http://developer.yahoo.com/yui/articles/gbs/
> So you aren't going to see me push to change Yahoo! Finance to HTML5 tags.
> However, I have been d
On 13 Aug 2010, at 18:51, Ted Drake wrote:
> You need to build a site to learn HTML5 semantics, it's like the old days of
> hybrid table-based layouts. 7 years ago you really needed to ditch tables to
> truly understand CSS.
Are you suggesting that to switch to HTML5 we should avoid the use of
Take a look at the js, it's pretty simple.
However, it is true that you are leaving yourself open. At Yahoo, we treat IE6
as an a-level browser. http://developer.yahoo.com/yui/articles/gbs/
So you aren't going to see me push to change Yahoo! Finance to HTML5 tags.
However, I have been doing it t
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 1:11 PM, designer
wrote:
> Tom,
>
> I have 'played' with the simple elements and I like them. I actually wanted
> to have a 'page' element (or wrapper) since that is an element that is used
> an awful lot, but I never got anywhere with folk accepting it. For a simple
> exam
Tom,
I have 'played' with the simple elements and I like them. I actually wanted
to have a 'page' element (or wrapper) since that is an element that is used
an awful lot, but I never got anywhere with folk accepting it. For a simple
example, see:
http://www.betasite.fsnet.co.uk/gam/altgam/gwelan
Tom, just go for it.
You can add the modernizr or similar js to get IE to recognize the elements.
But you won't appreciate the semantics of HTML5 until you ditch divs for the
new tags. I speak from experience. There's a certain level of awareness you get
while trying to decide the most semantic
> Sorry,, Corrected Structure:
>
>
>
> Header here
>
>
>
>
> Content with an H2, a UL, Ps and As and a
> picture
>
>
>
Tom,
HTML5 allows for the use of the elements header, footer, and aside in
multiple instances.
For example, an article could have a header and footer:
Article title
August 12, 2010
OK, I have decided to step back from HTML5 till I "get it" better, but
in keeping with the idea of this thread, I'd like some feedback on the
following structure:
Header here
> Ignoring that this isn't using HTML5 elements, but using it as an
> analogy - via the classes and IDs - could this be improved upon? Is
> there a place for (s) here? Did I get the element concepts
> right?
>
> Thanks again...
Sorry,, Corrected Structure:
> Just to add onto Chris' email.
>
> This sounds like a good place to suggest people purchase Jeremy
> Keith's book HTML5 for Web Designers. In it he actually describes the
> semantics of the new tags and gives defines when and how to use tags
> like etc. If you have questions
> like these de
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 4:53 AM, Chris Knowles wrote:
>> a 'div' definitely has meaning, ie: it is a division of one part of
>> the page, from another; whether it is used for other behaviour,
>> doesn't preclude it from from its original meaning.
>
> but when everything is in a div, div ceases to
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 5:53 AM, Chris Knowles wrote:
>> a 'div' definitely has meaning, ie: it is a division of one part of
>> the page, from another; whether it is used for other behaviour,
>> doesn't preclude it from from its original meaning.
>
> but when everything is in a div, div ceases to
On 13/08/10 05:17, Ryan Seddon wrote:
Yeah that is a good point. Although doing so would require the person to
visit each page which has it's own manifest before it will be cached.
Have you ever tried caching pages which themselves have manifests?
If you're referring to the page which re
a 'div' definitely has meaning, ie: it is a division of one part of
the page, from another; whether it is used for other behaviour,
doesn't preclude it from from its original meaning.
but when everything is in a div, div ceases to have much meaning. It
simply says theres a bunch of things on the
> Tom, I think the answer to that is semantics - div has no meaning. Id's are
> there for you to manipulate the look and behaviour, the tags themselves
> offer a way for third parties to glean meaning from the page. e.g you could
> build an overview of a page by grabbing the first bit of text insid
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