[WSG] DIV Javascript Problem
Hi All
I was wondering if I can pick all your brains on an issue I am facing.
I am not a big coder and good when it comes to JavaScript. I have recently
taken charge of maintaining a website for a client who uses divs to display
data onto a .htm page. They do not want to use .php and mysql data basing as
they are worried about losing their ranking in the search engines.
Here is an extract of the coding.
script language=javascript src=rates.js/script - obviously
imports the divs with the prices attached.
body onLoad=loadPrices('ox001, ment001 ,hvh001 ,vhw001')
And in the .htm document I have the code.
div id=hvh001/div
So I was wondering why this does not always work and especially when I seem
to update pages using dreamweaver.
I dunno how this works or why it even works.
I am trying to convince the client to turn their whole site into a database
driven site so these problems don't happen and you do not have bad code
however we all have clients who do not wish to listen so any advice would be
great.
If you have any issues regarding this email please feel free to contact me
on the details below.
Aaron Wheeler
Tel: 01483 860 235
Email: aa...@stageguy.co.uk
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Re: [WSG] DIV Javascript Problem
On 29/06/2009, at 7:32 PM, Aaron Wheeler wrote: I dunno how this works or why it even works. If you're unable to work out how this works with the code in front of you, I'm not sure how anyone on this list is going to be able to help you without any code. Your best bet would be to tell that client that they should find someone who is a little more proficient with Javascript and HTML to solve the problem. Cheers, Nathan de Vries *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] DIV Javascript Problem
Aaron Wheeler wrote:
They do not want to use .php and mysql data basing as
they are worried about losing their ranking in the search engines.
So rather than presenting the data in a form that the search engine will
ready, they are choosing to use a method where the search engines will
ignore it?
Here is an extract of the coding.
script language=javascript src=rates.js/script - obviously
imports the divs with the prices attached.
Um. Right. Obviously.
HTML 3.2 for some reason.
body onLoad=loadPrices('ox001, ment001 ,hvh001 ,vhw001')
And this is invalid. Use a validator before asking humans to look at code
please. It saves their time if you don't waste it with errors that a
machine can pick up.
It is also odd for a JS script to expect a string containing comma
separated data rather than a separate JS argument for each piece.
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Re: [WSG] DIV Javascript Problem
Aaron Wheeler wrote: Hi All I was wondering if I can pick all your brains on an issue I am facing. I am not a big coder and good when it comes to JavaScript. I have recently taken charge of maintaining a website for a client who uses divs to display data onto a .htm page. They do not want to use .php and mysql data basing as they are worried about losing their ranking in the search engines. Here is an extract of the coding. script language=javascript src=rates.js/script - obviously imports the divs with the prices attached.ide1') And in the .htm document I have the code. div id=hvh001/div So I was wondering why this does not always work and especially when I seem to update pages using dreamweaver. I think it's a big mistake to use JavaScript to add essential information to a document. First, if Internet security options are set to high, as security-conscious organizations do, then scripting is disabled in IE. Second, the NoScript add-on for Firefox seems very popular - over 50 million downloads as of this writing. Finally, it seems likely that search engines *may* miss this content, possibly affecting the site's ranking. (Open to correction on this - I am no SEO authority.) Aside - I wouldn't rely on Dreamweaver's interpretation as truly representative, although CS4 is a marked improvement over earlier versions. Cordially, David -- *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] DIV Javascript Problem
At 6/29/2009 02:32 AM, Aaron Wheeler wrote:
taken charge of maintaining a website for a client who uses divs to display
data onto a .htm page. They do not want to use .php and mysql data basing as
they are worried about losing their ranking in the search engines.
Please tell the client that search engines do not use JavaScript,
therefore all content that is displayed on the page by JavaScript
will not be seen by search engines and will not improve their SEO.
This sounds like a classic example of a non-technically-proficient
client making low-level technical decisions that are simply outside
of their purview. In my opinion the scope of their mandate should be
to have a website created that furthers their business model, and to
hire the expertise to make this happen. Exactly which technologies
are used to reach their goal should not be decided by anyone with
little or no experience using those technologies.
body onLoad=loadPrices('ox001, ment001 ,hvh001 ,vhw001')
For modern HTML support you'll want to enclose attribute values in
quotation marks.
http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/intro/sgmltut.html#h-3.2.2
To support modern coding principles such as progressive enhancement
and graceful degradation you'll want to strip all JavaScript out of
the HTML and confine it to the linked .js file where it belongs.
http://accessites.org/site/2007/02/graceful-degradation-progressive-enhancement/
The W3C HTML Validator referred to previously can be found at
http://validator.w3.org/
script language=javascript src=rates.js/script
body onLoad=loadPrices('ox001, ment001 ,hvh001 ,vhw001')
div id=hvh001/div
So I was wondering why this does not always work and especially when I seem
to update pages using dreamweaver.
I dunno how this works or why it even works.
It's impossible to say without seeing the complete HTML page and
JavaScript file. If you want help, I suggest you post links to where
they're located. It's possible that the solution to your problem is
simple; if not, it may be beyond the scope of this list to help you
for free and you may have to hire some expertise.
Good luck! You've got a long climb ahead of you, but achieving
altitude to so worth it.
Paul
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Paul Novitski
Juniper Webcraft Ltd.
http://juniperwebcraft.com
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RE: [WSG] DIV Javascript Problem
You're out of your depth Aaron. A programmer
is required.
regards
Mark
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Subject: [WSG] DIV Javascript Problem
Hi All
I was wondering if I can pick all your brains on an issue I am facing.
I am not a big coder and good when it comes to JavaScript. I have
recently
taken charge of maintaining a website for a client who uses divs to
display
data onto a .htm page. They do not want to use .php and mysql data
basing as
they are worried about losing their ranking in the search engines.
Here is an extract of the coding.
script language=javascript src=rates.js/script -
obviously
imports the divs with the prices attached.
body onLoad=loadPrices('ox001, ment001 ,hvh001 ,vhw001')
And in the .htm document I have the code.
div id=hvh001/div
So I was wondering why this does not always work and especially when I
seem
to update pages using dreamweaver.
I dunno how this works or why it even works.
I am trying to convince the client to turn their whole site into a
database
driven site so these problems don't happen and you do not have bad code
however we all have clients who do not wish to listen so any advice
would be
great.
If you have any issues regarding this email please feel free to contact
me
on the details below.
Aaron Wheeler
Tel: 01483 860 235
Email: aa...@stageguy.co.uk
Web: www.stageguy.co.uk
Stageguy Designs Limited. Registered in England and Wales No. 6814665
Registered Office: 788-790 Finchley Road London NW11 7TJ
Stageguy Designs Ltd raises money for charity with Everyclick.com -
http://www.everyclick.com/stageguy-designs-ltd
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