Re: [WSG] Marking Up Poems
dwain wrote: > i agree, put the poem in a , place the poem inside a , use /> ( for html4) at the end of each line and a double > between stanzas (unless you are writing a very long poem, then i'd > go for at every stanza). > > cheers, > dwain > > Hello Web Standards Group List Readers, This is my first post here, and i am looking forward to more conclusive discussions. Now back on topic. If you ask me, i would say that a double is a already. Look at word processing programs. When you wish for a double you will simply type "Enter". If you want a line-break you will mostly do a Shift+Enter. is a paragraph and a poem can consist of multiple paragraphs, called verses. The discussion might be about small matters, but i feel looks more like it fits breaking a poem into verses. Another idea might be using an list instead of an wrapping the poems into list elements, since your chained elements would result in a list of poems. So far my first thoughts. regards, Jens *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Mobile phone support of CSS
Paul Collins wrote: Hi all, I'm trying to find a comprehensive list of Mobile phone browsers and CSS support. I currently have a Nokia N70 and as far as I can see it doesn't support CSS at all. But, perhaps with a stylesheet targeting mobile phones it would?! The main reason is, I am trying to decide whether putting the main logo of a site in as an inline image is better than a background, as it would still show up with CSS not supported. But then, how many mobile browsers still don't support CSS whatsoever?! In addition if you are trying to locate which mobile browser from which mobile vendor is coming along, this universal XML File called WURFL might help alot. It contains information about the capabilities and features of many mobile devices and more. http://wurfl.sourceforge.net/ regards, Jens *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] flash navigation - Devils advocate
I think i agree with all of the above, that using Flash for navigation is not a good or applicable solution, even with appropiate fallback. The only reason i could think of for using Flash in this case would be, when a specific font is required, that will just not render properly with (X)HTML/CSS/Javascript. This reminds me alot of the about sFIR, the Flash image replacement method. regards, Jens willdonovan wrote: I know that there are a lot of free javascript libraries available for you to use without having to go to the extent of programming your own javascript features. things like dhtml goodies and scriptaculous, I'm sure the group has some other options but this is getting off topic now. a quick search would find a few for you. William *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] semantic issue
Matijs wrote: Currently I'm working on a website with a community / web 2.0-ish feel to it. I'm having trouble deciding what tags to use for certain elements on a page. These elements are: - mail a friend - vote the article up - vote the article down - copy "I want to embed this on my own site" code from an input field - the number of times the article has been viewed - tags associated with the article Hi Matijs, Those elements are all functions provided for the current page, and so they belong together and can be handled in an unordered list. I don't see anything speaking against that. Try viewing your layout structure by turning of stylesheets and you can then probably decide with more confidence about how the semantic elements of the page structure should be displayed with (X)HTML elements. As s simple rule i usually create the (X)HTML structure when i have a determined the basic layout, without applying any stylesheet. When the structure is correct and seems logic as applied to the content i proceed. regards, Jens *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Question about accessibility
Even if the text replacement should not look as satisfying as using a whole big image with image maps on it, you can still split up that image into the navigation part and use image replacement techniques where the Text is still preserved. Since most of those techniques hide the Text and put the images as background images, the load will be minimized once those images are placed in the browser cache. The idea with the 2 examples to compare is spot on. The only difference that might be seen is missing text anti-aliasing on some browsers, if its either not supported by the operating system or turned off by default (like Clear-type in Windows XP). regards, Jens *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***