Re: [WSG] Great Radio National Podcast on Deafness

2006-03-20 Thread Leslie Riggs

Is there a transcript of that podcast for those of us who ARE Deaf?

Leslie Riggs


ABC's Radio National Late Night Live program has produced a really
insightful interview about Deafness. I think it's well worth a listen and
might give you a good insight into deaf culture and the medical model of
deafness in Australia and internationally.


Deaf Culture

Summary

Is deafness a disadvantage or a different way of being? Members of the deaf
community and medical doctors discuss the notion of a distinct 'deaf
culture'.

This program was originally broadcast in 1993 and won a Human Rights Award. 


http://www.abc.net.au/rn/podcast/feeds/lnl_20060310.mp3 25 MB runs for
approximately 1 hour


Lisa Herrod 
Senior Consultant, Usability 
 



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Re: [WSG] Target sued over non-accessible site

2006-02-09 Thread Leslie Riggs


The only thing I don't understand is how on earth does a blind person 
pick out items that rely on a photograph (clothes etc)...



If you go to Target's home page, you will find, in the left column 
what appear to be headlines describing sale and special items. They 
are images - and there is no Alt text. Blind people do shop :-).


There are varying degrees of blindness, too, so someone looking at one 
of those images may go, Oh, wait, is that a red jumper or a parka?  
Alt text can help in that respect, if the user has a good text-to-speech 
tool installed.


Leslie Riggs
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Re: [WSG] Claiming compliance when a site doesn't' actually comply

2006-01-05 Thread Leslie Riggs
I'd like to know about a site that is XHTML 1.0 Transitional; what would 
be the purpose in that, and would you say that should be served as 
application-type/xhtml+xml, or text/html? A lot of the reading I've done 
has been rather confusing, particularly when I go and see sites served 
as XHTML 1.0 Transitional and text/html. Does that mean those sites are 
'violating the validation law'?


What's a person to do?  When is it appropriate to use one of the XHTML DTDs and 
when to use HTML 4.01, and what about those XHTML Transitional DTDs?  I guess I'm 
looking for a bit of a summarization  clarification of this concept.

Leslie Riggs


Maybe, but if a site that is XHTML served as text/html were actually
served correctly as application-type/xhtml+xml, any validation errors
would cause the site to STOP working entirely. So this kind of can't
win them all attitude is okay when we are talking about html 4, but
with xhtml, it's not acceptable. When I see an html 4 site with
validation errors, I don't mind at all, but when I see an xhtml (or
wannabe xhtml) site with validation errors, I think that's a problem.
I know it sounds elitist, but in the xhtml world, validation is the
law.

This is why on my latest project, a wordpress template for a friend of
mine, I am designing the template to be html 4. Even all those
wordpress-generated img / tags are valid in html 4, and I don't have
to lose sleep over my friend's mistakes when she uses html in her
posts, because I know the site will still work.

As much as I like seeing a decent adoption of xhtml by so many
websites, I still think many of them should roll back to html 4, if
they aren't going to bother to fix their errors.

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Re: [WSG] Web Developer Extension 1.0 Released

2006-01-03 Thread Leslie Riggs
If you already have the toolbar installed, won't you get it via check 
for updates?  That's how I found it.


Leslie Riggs


Chris Pendrick recently released Web Developer Extension 1.0.
http://chrispederick.com/work/webdeveloper/

He has fixed some bugs, added some features, and changed some stuff.  
I would definitely upgrade soon. If you don't use it, download it.  
This is one of the most used tools that I have in my toolbox.


More info about the release on Chris Pendrick's blog:
http://chrispederick.com/blog/2005/12/31/web-developer-10/

Sincerely,
Justin Thorp



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Re: [WSG] Best Web Standards thing I learnt in 2005.

2005-12-22 Thread Leslie Riggs
You see, THAT is the best thing I learnt in 2005 - that there are always 
more things to learn!


Just getting my toes wet in microformats, and understanding a bit more 
about XHTML...


Leslie Riggs


Christopher,


+ getting into microformats



I guess I missed something along the way. Where can I find out more  
about this?


Bob



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Re: [WSG] standards or confusion?

2005-12-04 Thread Leslie Riggs
My biggest reason for following standards originally was selfish: vastly 
increased ease of maintainability.  When you separate content from 
presentation, you can change the presentation aspect of the site once 
and it goes into effect across the entire site.  I really, really liked 
that aspect of it.  Pages load faster thanks to smaller file sizes, and 
site visitors notice that.  There are other benefits, but those were 
what convinced me.


Leslie Riggs

None of those. I just mentioned that I was unable to convice my  
friend to change his ways and his strongest reason not to was his  
(fairly complicated) site that worked just fine in a lot of browsers  
which he built without jumping through any of the hoops I go through  
trying to get a complicated layout to work in as many browsers.


I'm all for standards and everything else this list is about, but I  
do feel we might be spending a lot of time preparing for a State  
Dinner when what we are really going to attend is a come-as-you- 
are BBQ in the backyard.




On 04/12/05, Bob Schwartz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


2. A friend just got back into the web design game after a long time
away. He sent me his site: pure HTML 2.0, no doctype lots of tables
and the usual tag soup.
I mentioned to him that things had changed and he should get with
the modern way of doing things. To his various questions as to why, I
gave all the right answers, but in the end he said if it works, why
change? I viewed his site in all my various MAC  WIN browsers, it
worked just fine in all of them.



Are you asking for the benefits of standards-based design or the ROI
of it? It's on like 100 trillions of documents and books written
since 2001. Give him a Zeldman or Cederholm book for Christmas :-)


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Re: [WSG] standards, accessability and validation?

2005-11-01 Thread Leslie Riggs


We are hoping to have this available online as a Quicktime file soon. 
When it is, it's definitely worth showing to people. Jonathan is a 
wonderful speaker and funny speaker, and I guarantee that no one will 
see his presentation and go away feeling the same about accessibility!


Mike
for Web Standards New Zealand / Wellington WSG
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Um, I'm kind of afraid to ask, but would there be any captioning on that 
for us poor deaf folk who won't hear this but do work for hearing clients?


Leslie
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Re: [WSG] Cingular and Verizon go Web Standard

2005-09-25 Thread Leslie Riggs
Cingular: Nice job, but not valid - 59 errors in XHTML and an error in 
the CSS.


Verizon Wireless:  Again, nice job, but 49 errors in XHTML, an error in 
the CSS.


They'll get there...

Leslie Riggs


I don't know how long ago they made their switch. Looks like companies are
starting to see how important it is to have a web site that uses web
standards.

http://www.cingular.com - View Source
http://www.verizonwireless.com - View Source

 



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Re: 'users with disabilities' WAS: [WSG] New front page for http://ab c.net.au/

2005-08-04 Thread Leslie Riggs



'Users with Disabilities' is better than 'disabled users' generally,
however, when referring to deaf users, it depends on whether the user is
culturally deaf or not.

Culturally Deaf users are those that use sign language for communication and
belong to the deaf community. They're referred to as the big 'D' deaf. In my
experience, most Deaf users would not like to be referred to as disabled as
they do not consider themselves to be disabled. This is Important to note

Other deaf users are usually referred to as hearing impaired or deaf (no
capital).

 

Ahem, being that I am Deaf and very actively involved in local and 
state-level communities in my little part of the U.S., I can tell you 
that there are precious few people who do not consider themselves Deaf 
who also would bristle at the term hearing impaired.  Hard of 
hearing is a better accepted term. The term deaf isn't real widely 
used except when referring to a broad population, such as when talking 
about the deaf community.  Hearing impaired is a term used by people 
who don't realize or understand what they are talking about, to describe 
Deaf or hard of hearing people.


Regarding the preference for dropdowns, that doesn't surprise me.  Deaf 
and hard of hearing people (especially those fluent in a sign language - 
ASL, BSL, USL) are exceptionally visually oriented.  When a menu drops 
down rather than flying out, it's easier to read and navigate down.  The 
information related to that menu item is closer to the item than when 
additional menu choices fly out to the side (with multiple choices 
listed vertically), which is a bit jarring.  It's also less effort than 
to try to keep the mouse within the hot spot to navigate sideways, 
then down to the desired link.


Leslie Riggs


Hope that helps and is not too off topic??

Lisa


Terrence Wood wrote:
I wonder why people with hearing disabilities requested dropdowns, is 
this result (statistically) valid, or just observed within your group?


btw, I'm pretty sure the correct term to use users with disabilities.

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Re: 'users with disabilities' WAS: [WSG] New front page for http: //ab c.net.au/

2005-08-04 Thread Leslie Riggs

All in how each person views it, I suppose.  My (not) hearing *is* normal...

For me, the humiliation lies in the obvious misperceptions of people I 
meet every day - it's amazing what people will assume you can't do, 
simply because you don't have or use a particular physical feature.


To bring this back to topic, I have met with hearing prospects and 
worked to explain different concepts in web design, and been asked 
things like, Following web standards is all well and good, but how are 
you going to stream the audio when you can't hear it, if you can't do it 
this?  How do you know your method will WORK?  Makes for very 
interesting entries in my offline personal journal :)


Leslie



...

I have a disability therefore I'm a disabled user, and I'm also a user 
with a disability and I'm also hearing impaired and physically 
impaired. It just amazes me the importance people attach to labels. How 
can people get offended by a truth? My hearing is *not* normal. It's a 
fact and I'm not ashamed of it and though sometimes I get humiliated 
it's not because of labels!


...

Call me what you will (but try to keep it polite... haha).

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Re: 'users with disabilities' WAS: [WSG] New front page for http: //ab c.net.au/

2005-08-04 Thread Leslie Riggs
It's an uphill battle.  Accessibility is a hot topic these days, but 
online streamed video and audio access by way of captioning or 
subtitling for the Deaf / hard of hearing is very poorly implemented.  
Even the big sites crowing about how their websites meet and even exceed 
accessibility guidelines still don't have captioning available with 
their video or audio clips.  It could just be an honest oversight on the 
part of the site developers, or it could be a management decision based 
on resource availability issues, or ??.  

A dream of mine is to see the development of reliable, high-quality 
speech to text technology built into QuickTime, Real, Windows Media 
Player, etc. so that captions are created on the fly that users turns 
on through user preferences within the application.


I have submitted feedback requests to many of the news sites (CNN, 
MSNBC, etc.) but have not heard or seen any responses. 

I doubt the FCC could enforce such a thing as licensing.  They don't 
have jurisdiction across the entire Web.  I don't even want to think 
about the implications of licensing requirements.  UGH.  I already 
have a headache


Leslie


But on the subject of streaming -- I find that very few streaming
broadcasts use captioning.  Most television broadcasts have closed
captioning as mandatory and the ability to transmit text with radio
broadcasts is being used (although, more as an added feature).  I
imagine the wild-west unregulated state of the web makes such
enforcement difficult at best.

I am sure there would be howls of protest if some licensing, such as an
FCC license for broadcasting, would be mandatory for the web -- and
perhaps there should be some citizens band version of the web (which
the spammers will overrun) and a professional version.  Interesting
thought...



Dwacon
www.dwacon.com
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Some people can be thick -- even when well-intentioned.



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Re: [WSG] Site Review Please - www.SalmonRecipes.Net

2005-08-02 Thread Leslie Riggs
Beautiful!  It's just that the banner ad is rather jarring in its 
present location.  Anything you can do about that?  When I see 
salmonrecipes.com with the ad right next to it, it's a bit confusing.


Others have given you just the input I would have given.  Obviously you 
put a lot of thought into this design.  Great job!


Leslie


Hello everyone,

I would really appreciate your comments about our recently redeveloped
http://www.salmonrecipes.net/ site.
 



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Re: [WSG] Learning The DOM

2005-07-18 Thread Leslie Riggs


And now, I'd like to turn the question around and ask everyone on  
this list what they'd like to see from the DSTF.


How much JavaScript do you know?


Minimal.  I can read it enough to understand what a script is doing but 
I haven't written JavaScript from scratch yet.



What kind of things about DOM Scripting need clarifying?


Best practices, accessible JavaScript, graceful techniques for those UIs 
that have JS turned off.


Do you want to see examples of cool stuff with a kind of DOM  
Scripting for dummies style explanation or more sober articles with  
a more geeky leaning?


I like both...



Please share your personal experiences: what's your skill level with  
JavaScript compared to say, CSS or XHTML? What's your opinion of  
JavaScript?


I understand CSS/XHTML far better than I do JavaScript.  I'm really new 
to JS, but more and more lately, I'm seeing that there can be some very 
useful things that JavaScript can do, after CSS/XHTML has hit the 
limit.  JavaScript has its place, but if there's something that can be 
accomplished using CSS/XHTML, that should be the preferred option.




The answers you give will really, really help determine the direction  
that the Task Force takes.


Thanks,

Jeremy



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Re: [WSG] WSG Meetings for the rest of us

2005-06-12 Thread Leslie Riggs
The content is what's important - and I'll send a token of sincere 
appreciation to those who go do the extra work of captioning the 
presentation. :)


Leslie Riggs


If all goes to plan (and it has so far), this tuesday's Brisbane WSG
meeting will be filmed with the intention of offering it up for WSG
members.

If anyone wants to volunteer to do the captioning that would be
awesome, otherwise some of the locals will probably draw straws for
it...  (don't be afraid, SMIL is easy --- just disect Patrick's
captioned version of a Zeldman speach ;p)

I know the film quality will be bad because I'll probably end up
holding the camera; but who cares, we've got to start somewhere.

Cheers,
Andrew.
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Re: [WSG] WSG Meetings for the rest of us

2005-06-09 Thread Leslie Riggs
Then there's this one Deaf WSG member who's gonna ask for some kind of 
captioning/subtitling of the video/audio...


Leslie Riggs

I live in eastern US.  Much as I would love to visit Austrailia, it is 
out of the question for now at least.
 
I think some sort of video of your events would be great!
 
Nancy


*/akella [EMAIL PROTECTED]/* wrote:

what about ukraine?
there are four of us
but only two of us know each other...

On 6/9/05, *Kvnmcwebn* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Anyone else in the UK want to have our own meeting and show
the Ozzies
 how it's really done? 

how about northern ireland?



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Re: [WSG] A way to skip a Flash-intro if Flash is not installed?

2005-06-02 Thread Leslie Riggs
But, Kristian, if a dial-up user has to sit and sit and sit to wait for 
the Flash to load, when is this person going to see the skip button?


Leslie Riggs


Well, the flash-intro itself has a skip-button, so that won't be necessary.

/Kristian

 


Like most dial-up users who do have Flash installed, I don't want to
*ever* sit (and sit, and sit, and sit) through a Flash intro and want
to be able to clearly see the link that says to skip it - please
don't hide it behind the Flash movie! Best not to take usability
choices away from your viewers.
   



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Re: [WSG] Issue with CSS, Flash and FireFox

2005-06-02 Thread Leslie Riggs
You have a number of validation errors per the W3C HTML validator; 
perhaps start with clearing those up?  One of the errors mentions trying 
to use src with the embed tag...


Leslie Riggs


Hello to All,

I have a slight issue that is driving me batty.  I am unable to get my 
flash/shockwave file to behave in FireFox.  In FF, the flash file lays on top 
of the footer, but in IE, it stays where it is suppose to be.

Here is the url to the work in progress, which works well for IE.

http://www.kustom.com/Kustom2005/index.htm

Any solutions that help me better understand the slight differences and how to 
overcome them in the future will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks

Jeff D. Reid

MIS Dept.
HHI Music
Cincinnati, OH, USA


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Re: [WSG] Photo gallery standards?

2005-05-29 Thread Leslie Riggs
You've got a lot of validation issues.  Over 180 errors, including XHTML 
markup while using an HTML 4.01 Transitional DTD.
I think you need to decide if you want to follow that DTD or switch to 
an XHTML DTD.


Leslie Riggs


actually i'm having a problem in my project, I have to have category
for every person, with his albums
so the site become so ugly and so huge, and the current content is
only 20% of what I have
would you mind to take a look 
http://joite.org/gallery/



On 5/29/05, Kornel Lesinski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 


On Sun, 29 May 2005 15:46:29 +0100, Chris Kennon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   


How to Create a Photographic Gallery Using CSS:
http://www.webreference.com/programming/css_gallery/index.html
 


I don't like it. It works only on hover and that's Bad Thing for usability
and accessiblity.

I can't use keyboard.
I can't get link to certain image.
I can't copy image or get it's properties.
I can't leave page open on certain image (try not getting lost in
100-image gallery).
I can't use Opera's slideshow feature.

For me even Apache's simple directory listing makes better gallery than
that.

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Re: [WSG] Flash Satay Embed Issue

2005-05-23 Thread Leslie Riggs
I notice that I forgot to include a link to the page with the problem.  
My apologies - here it is: 


http://www.theonlineworks.com/test/dhha/home4.html

Bob, I didn't put in the code you suggested yet.  I did try it locally.  
IE6 STUBBORNLY refuses to show the Flash.  The above link will take you 
to the page with code for the container movie which calls the flash.  
Works great in FF and Opera.  IE6 never seems to load it.  It goes and 
goes and goes, but never gets there.  I got the same result testing your 
solution locally.


I'm determined to find a good, standards compliant way to serve Flash 
clips in IE as well as other browsers, and I know some of the population 
who will view the site may have Javascript turned off, so that's the 
reason for wanting a Javascript-less solution.



hi Leslie,

Bert Doorn recently suggested to me that I try:

object data=whatever.swf  width=x height=y
type=application/x-shockwave-flash
 param name=movie value=whatever.swf /
 param name=quality value=high /
 pNo Flash?/p
   /object

and so far I haven't found anywhere that it doesn't work!  I've tested it in
IE5.5, 6, FF1, Opera8 and with Flash file sizes up to 90K.  I haven't found
any evidence of streaming problems at all. I haven't reported back to Bert
about this, as I was going to test on bigger Flash files first, so if you're
reading this Bert, Thank you!

Incidentally, it validates as xhtml 1.0 strict!

This seems like a revelation to me, and I'd be interested if anyone else
knows of any problems?

Bob McClelland,
Cornwall (U.K.)
www.gwelanmor-internet.co.uk
 



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Re: [WSG] Flash Satay Embed Issue

2005-05-23 Thread Leslie Riggs
Thanks heaps, Patrick.  That did the trick.  I'd completely overlooked 
that the param name had to be movie.


It validates!  It WORKS!  Thank you again.

Leslie Riggs


You have an error in your markup. Try changing

param name=top_dhha 
value=flash/cont_dhha.swf?path=flash/top_dhha.swf /


to

param name=movie 
value=flash/cont_dhha.swf?path=flash/top_dhha.swf /




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Re: [WSG] Flash Satay Embed Issue

2005-05-23 Thread Leslie Riggs

Since you helped me, I'll help you.

For just a split second, I see a broken image icon in the upper left 
corner of the area with the Flash (using WinXP Pro SP2 with IE6 on a 
cable connection), then the Flash loads fine.  Same with the credits 
page.  I think the first time someone loads this, that's what happens, 
but it's only a split second, then the flash loads.  Probably the file 
takes just that wee extra time to load and IE likes to wait till it's 
all there before it runs the Flash.


Leslie Riggs


I'm confused as to what is happening here.  Will someone please try the
opening page of www.kernowimages.co.uk , confirm that it works in IE, and
save my sanity?  For me it works in WinXP running IE5.5 and 6, as well as
FF1, Opera 8.

If you have time, you could check the 'credits' page as well. That works
too. (well, it does here :-)

So what is happening?

Duh.

Bob McClelland,
Cornwall (U.K.)
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[WSG] Forms question

2005-05-23 Thread Leslie Riggs
When validating a page containing a form for XHTML 1.0 Transitional, I 
get the following message regarding a textarea:


required attribute cols not specified

Why can't we specify a percentage width for the textarea in the CSS 
instead?  It works, but it doesn't validate without the cols attribute 
being defined, and if I'm going to define cols then there's no purpose 
for the width in the CSS, is there?  Does this have to do with being 
able to enter text beyond that CSS-defined width?


Thanks for your enlightenment...

Leslie Riggs
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Re: [WSG] Best way to train someone in css and web standards

2005-05-23 Thread Leslie Riggs
I'm with Ben on this one.  I learned loads after installing Firefox and 
adding the validator and developer toolbar.  I went to different sites 
and ran them through the validator, saw the errors (or not) and learned 
about how to and how not to code to standards.


Leslie Riggs





Keep them away from anything that isn't strictly standard-based (x)html
and CSS for a while. Let them work and test against real browsers and
the validators, and make sure IE/win doesn't get in the way with its
broken standard-support and tag-soup recovery.




Stick them on Firefox with these two extensions:

HTML VALIDATOR (based on Tidy)
http://users.skynet.be/mgueury/mozilla/
Validates as they view their pages, so they should always see the 
beautiful green checkmark that says the HTML is valid. It has some 
issues, but hopefully it will train them to cringe when they miss that 
closing slash on their link tag.


WEB DEVELOPER
http://chrispederick.com/work/firefox/webdeveloper/
Web Developer is a toolbar with wonderful, wonderful abilities for 
people learning CSS. Chief among them is the Outline menu and the 
ability to switch styles off with a keystroke, IMO. The Tools menu 
also trains them to validate, validate, validate.




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Re: [WSG] Forms question

2005-05-23 Thread Leslie Riggs
I'm using XHTML 1.0 Transitional.  I don't have a percentage defined in 
the markup.  It's defined in the CSS as width: 65% and I left the cols 
attribute unspecified.  What I want to understand is why is cols 
required by the W3C standard, if the width can be defined in CSS?  Is 
there a specific purpose to that, that can't be served by the width 
attribute in CSS?


The reason I'm questioning this is when you have a layout with a form 
inside a container with a percentage width defined in CSS, but you have 
cols hard coded in the markup, couldn't that create a problem with the 
way a UA renders a page, particularly when cols is effectively wider 
than the containing area on a page?


For example, say I've got a form with a textarea, cols at 80.   I have a 
container for that form that is set to 60% width (in  the CSS).  Now, if 
I have a  small screen,  the container will take up 75% of the screen 
width...could cols, set at 80, break that layout or will it still render 
acceptably?


I am just respectfully asking for help in understanding why cols is 
required by the W3C standard if a width attribute could be set in CSS 
for textarea.


Thanks,

Leslie Riggs


cols is used to define the number of  characters on a line. That is
percent is giving you an error. The default for this in html 4.01 is
80.
I believe in xhtml it is required to be defined.
 


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Re: [WSG] Forms question

2005-05-23 Thread Leslie Riggs

Isn't the default 80 columns?

Leslie Riggs



What I want to understand is why is cols required by the W3C standard, 


 if the width can be defined in CSS?

The way I find it easiest to explain is to think about what happens if 
CSS was to be disabled in the browser, or the browser was incapable of 
processing CSS (take Lynx, for example). If the cols are not defined 
in the markup then what is the browser supposed to show?


Cheers
Peter



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Re: [WSG] Any good color spies?

2005-05-05 Thread Leslie Riggs
Colorschemer Studio isn't free, but it's not real expensive either, and 
it does a very nice job with several options of color scheme selections, 
such as monochromatic, triad, tetrad, analogous, etc.  Very visual, and 
schemes can be saved for use later.

http://www.colorschemer.com
Leslie
You guys know of any good tools which has a color spy and also shows
similar colors (colors that go well with the color you spied)? Free
would be best..
 

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Re: [WSG] float (?) problem with Safari

2005-05-02 Thread Leslie Riggs
Hello Robin,
As is customary, I ran your site through the W3C validator.  It shows 
that there is no doctype declaration, and there are 13 validation 
errors, most related to the lack of a doctype declaration.  Fixing those 
might not fix your problem but it'll ensure your code is more standards 
compliant and clean, so it's a good start.

Leslie Riggs
Hi
I've got a 3-column layout, with dropdown menus, here:
http://home.vicnet.net.au/~persia/final/test.html
The left  right cols are floated. This seems to work ok in IE, Moz  Firefox on PC 
and Moz  NN7 on Mac. Safari doesn't like it, however and pops the left col out to the 
right side of the layout. The rest then follows underneath as normal.
If I remove the navbars5.css, which is used to style the menus, then the 
columns behave as they should. My guess is that something floated in 
navbars5.css needs clearing - have tried this, to no avail. Not sure why it 
only affects Safari.
Any suggestions appreciated.
TIA
 

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[WSG] Really strange results

2005-04-04 Thread Leslie Riggs
In some browsers, the test page I have put up renders fine: namely, IE 
Mac, Safari on Mac, IE6 on PC.  However, Firefox, Opera, Mozilla and 
Netscape don't seem to see the stylesheet.

Both HTML and CSS validated fine through the W3C site.
I am really having a difficult time understanding why some browsers see 
the stylesheet, while others don't?

The link to the page:  
http://www.deafvision.net/projects/btw/revised/indexx.html.

CSS is at http://www.deafvision.net/projects/btw/revised/css/btwnewx.css.
This is the first time I've encountered this situation, so anyone who 
can point me in the right direction, I would be very much obliged.

Thanks.
Leslie Riggs
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Re: [WSG] Really strange results

2005-04-04 Thread Leslie Riggs
Thanks, Michael,
Where do I find that information, so I can back up the assertion when I 
talk with the hosting provider?

Thank you!
Leslie Riggs
This is because your webserver is outputting: 
Content-Type: text/plain 
and not: 
Content-Type: text/css
For your CSS file.

IE doesn't care, but most other stuff does. Nothing wrong with your CSS. It is 
a web server configuration problem.
- Original Message -
From: Leslie Riggs [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Sent: Tue,  5 Apr 2005 14:35:12 +1000
Subject: [WSG] Really strange results
 

In some browsers, the test page I have put up renders fine: namely, IE 
Mac, Safari on Mac, IE6 on PC.  However, Firefox, Opera, Mozilla and 
Netscape don't seem to see the stylesheet.

Both HTML and CSS validated fine through the W3C site.
I am really having a difficult time understanding why some browsers see 
the stylesheet, while others don't?

The link to the page:  
http://www.deafvision.net/projects/btw/revised/indexx.html.

CSS is at http://www.deafvision.net/projects/btw/revised/css/btwnewx.css.
This is the first time I've encountered this situation, so anyone who 
can point me in the right direction, I would be very much obliged.

Thanks.
Leslie Riggs
   

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Re: [WSG] Really strange results

2005-04-04 Thread Leslie Riggs
Thanks to all - the hosting provider confirmed that the web server was 
incorrectly configured; it's an older one.  The site will go live on a 
newer, properly configured server.

I can now sleep happythanks again, everyone.
Leslie Riggs
scott parsons wrote:
The easy answer is that your server is configured incorrectly.
Your stylesheet is being served as text/plain, and not text/css
thus some browsers are not treating it as a style sheet..

i just did a quick test, copying leslie's code and css and loaded it 
on my server - and it was read by mozilla and firefox.  I wasn't 
even going to say anything because I was so mystified by it - but your 
answer explains it, Scott.   Some days I find these mysteries rather 
fun; other days  I dunno.

best
Donna
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Re: [WSG] CSS validator says [xX][mM][lL] is not allowed.

2005-03-19 Thread Leslie Riggs
Out of curiosity, I'm wondering why the xml prolog is there in the 
document when the page is being served as text/html?

I'm still pretty new to this, so I'm happy to learn and understand
Leslie Riggs
Hi,
I have valid XHTML
http://idealcouple.com/
http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fidealcouple.com%2F
And valid CSS
http://idealcouple.com/styling/idealism.css
http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/validator?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fidealcouple.com%2Fstyling%2Fidealism.cssusermedium=all
But when my client click CSS link in the footer,
CSS validator says :
Please, validate your XML document first!
Line 2
Column 6
The processing instruction target matching [xX][mM][lL] is not allowed.
I have both XHTML and CSS valid, but CSS Validator dont think so :(  Whats my 
problem?  The same trouble i have in my other site in development (line and 
column number are different)
http://it.net.ua/weblog/

We use PHP to render XML prolog and DOCTYPE, and we use PHP sessions.
Any help are welcome, as well as screenshots from Mac people.
Thanx, 
Andrey.
 

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Re: [WSG] To display or not to display validation logos?

2005-02-25 Thread Leslie Riggs
I think you pretty much answered your own question already. :)
Leslie Riggs
I am just about to complete a new site for a client, and I have coded 
it according to XHTML 1.0 strict guidelines. I am also using validated 
CSS. Do you think it is worth displaying the W3C compliance logos at 
the bottom?

Here is the web site:
http://www.fit2gether.co.uk/index.html
(let me know what you think!)
The web site is to do with personal fitness training. Neither the 
client nor the majority of site visitors would know what these logos 
mean so is there much point in displaying them?

Thanks,
Stephen

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Re: [WSG] accessibilty and responsibility

2005-02-18 Thread Leslie Riggs
I don't know how to word this, but here goes...
We have the W3C's WCAG and Section 508...however, WCAG is just a set of 
guidelines; Section 508 applies to US federal agencies.  I'm not asking 
that we legislate this (heaven forbid!) for the Web at large, but it 
seems there isn't yet a *widely accepted* standard that people are 
saying we ought to use?

I recently wanted to view a news video on the MSN site (there's always 
hope!), and I have my setting for captions/subtitling to be shown when 
available in the Windows Media Player that I have installed.  
Unfortunately, it seems the producers of the Web videos forget to 
include the subtitling /captioning, or the Windows Media Player isn't 
including the captions when the movie is downloaded, or whatever the 
case may be.  Being deaf, I rely on whatever I can read in text along 
with the facial expressions and body language that I can see in order to 
get the information that is being presented.  I have repeatedly 
submitted feedback saying things like videos look great, but can't you 
caption them?  Of course I'm sure these companies get scads of feedback 
and are too busy to be bothered to reply with even a got your note, 
thanks, we'll look into it.

We have a long, long way to go to achieve true accessibility in the 
world.  Even I have much to learn and more to do...

So, what do we do here?  How accessible should we be, to achieve the ideal?
Leslie Riggs
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Re: [WSG] web standards training course/events in Sydney?

2005-02-13 Thread Leslie Riggs
I'm wishing we could have something like that in my neck of the woods...
Leslie in NE Wisconsin, midwestern USA
Web Essentials will definitely be on again. Russ, Peter Maxine and I
are working hard to put together an even better event this year.
   

Best. News. Ever (well, not quite, but close ;)
Excuse me while I dance around the office like a complete idiot..
Can't wait to see the line-up,
Andrew.

http://leftjustified.net
 

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[WSG] Another plea for help: FF1.0 render problem

2005-02-06 Thread Leslie Riggs
Hello,
I posted a few days ago, about this puzzler.  Didn't get a response.  I 
REALLY need some help with this from you gurus.

I primarily code for Firefox, then check other browsers, then IE6.  The 
majority of users who will view the pages on this site are IE users, 
however, the fact that I see this rendering problem on the Gecko 
browsers is really bothering me.  The pages validate XHTML 1.1; CSS 
validation comes back with no errors.

I use the same style sheet for both pages.  Both pages reference the 
same DIVs for navigation and the content area.  For some reason that I 
can't fathom, the events page shows a gap between the nav bar (nav) and 
the content area (containall).  The home page does not show this gap.  
I've checked and rechecked, changed this and that, to no avail. 

This only appears to be a problem with Firefox and other Gecko browsers 
(Opera too).  IE6 renders fine.

Can anyone please help me figure this out? 

URL for problem page:
http://www.theonlineworks.com/test/wiscrad/events.html
URL for CSS:
http://www.theonlineworks.com/test/wiscrad/css/mainstyles.css
The links for the dates on the calendars are not working yet; I haven't 
set them up -- I'm too hung up on this issue right now.

If anyone can help, I'd be s thankful.
Leslie Riggs
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Re: [WSG] Another plea for help: FF1.0 render problem

2005-02-06 Thread Leslie Riggs
Thank you!!
That is a really bizarre quirk, even more so that it works without 
rendering issues popping up in the other browsers.

I shall sleep much better tonight, and have a good report for the client 
in the morning.  Is this a Gecko bug, I wonder?

Thanks again.
Leslie Riggs
Hi Leslie
Your problem occurs when you have the border-top: 0; after the border
statement.
If you take this out, it then works the same as in other browsers, strange I
know.
Hope this helps.
Cheers
Jeff Lowder
Accessibility 1st
Ph: 02 9570 9875
Mobile: 0419 350 760
E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Website: http://www.accessibility1st.com.au
 

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Re: [WSG] Gap between content and nav on events page in Firefox, looks fine in IE6

2005-02-04 Thread Leslie Riggs

What gives?  I have this small two-page site up for testing right now:
 http://www.theonlineworks.com/test/wiscrad/index.html
The index page is fine but the events page shows a gap between the nav and
the content area.  This is in windows, FF1.0.  IE6 shows both pages just
fine. 

The CSS is here:
 http://www.theonlineworks.com/test/wiscrad/css/mainstyles.css
Validated XHTML 1.1, CSS validated too.  I probably have been deep into this
so long I can't see the problem..  Any suggestions will be deeply
appreciated.
Leslie Riggs
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Haven't seen a reply so I'll contribute this: you are using two different
images for the logo. On the home page it's logo.gif and on events it is
logo_wiscard.jpg. One is transparent, the other is not. Could that be the
difference?
drew
 

I was testing two different looks for the logo with the client; I just 
uploaded the transparent one that the client chose.  I don't see any 
change in Firefox 1.0; the gap is still there.

Can anyone help, please?
Many thanks in advance.
Leslie Riggs
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[WSG] Gap between content and nav on events page in Firefox, looks fine in IE6

2005-02-03 Thread Leslie Riggs
What gives?  I have this small two-page site up for testing right now:
 http://www.theonlineworks.com/test/wiscrad/index.html
The index page is fine but the events page shows a gap between the nav 
and the content area.  This is in windows, FF1.0.  IE6 shows both pages 
just fine. 

The CSS is here:
 http://www.theonlineworks.com/test/wiscrad/css/mainstyles.css
Validated XHTML 1.1, CSS validated too.  I probably have been deep into 
this so long I can't see the problem..  Any suggestions will be deeply 
appreciated.

Leslie Riggs
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Re: [WSG] IE returns a blank page

2005-01-23 Thread Leslie Riggs
Sometimes simply clearing my browser cache does the trick for me - 
although I'm sure you've already tried this.

Leslie Riggs
I can't figure out what can be causing the problem, because it doesn't
work with any of my friends computers either...
this is so weird...
  Juha-Markku Liikala
   Department of Information Processing Science
  University of Oulu, Finland
 

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Re: [WSG] Color Scheme Tools (Was: My Site)

2004-12-22 Thread Leslie Riggs
That site works fine in IE6, but in my FF 1.0 on WinXP SP2, instructions 
don't appear, etc.  Doesn't work in FF, in other words.

It's awesome, but you have to use it with IE.
Leslie
In case anyone missed it, http://www.wire-man.com/paletteman/ is nice 
too.


Tom Livingston
Senior Multimedia Artist
mlinc.com
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Re: [WSG] My Site

2004-12-21 Thread Leslie Riggs
I went back and re-checked for CSS and HTML validation:  You still have 
some problems to fix.  The CSS validator shows an error page.  The HTML 
validator clearly states your code is not valid XHTML 1.0 Strict, with 
136 errors.  You'll have to fix those first.

It looks to me like you'll have to go back to the drawing board.  One 
thing I suggest is reviewing not only HTML/XHTML/CSS validation and 
document types, but also learning a bit more about using CSS for 
positioning rather than putting all your content into tables and laying  
them out that way.  Start by looking at 
http://www.positioniseverything.net and go from there.  Once you start 
using those techniques, you'll have a much cleaner site, codewise, that 
is vastly easier to maintain.

As far as the colors, there's definitely room for improvement - I see a 
couple of people have posted some links to color scheme selectors you 
can use, so hopefully you find those helpful.

Leslie Riggs

I do have one set of head, body and html tags.
I have validated my CSS and HTML.
 

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Re: [WSG] Semantic markup for publication titles

2004-12-16 Thread Leslie Riggs
Maybe I'm not fully understanding your question, but what about having a 
class (call it pub or whatever) and then defining font-style: italic 
in the CSS?

Leslie Riggs
SEMANTIC MARKUP FOR PUBLICATION TITLES
In print the name of a publication is typically type-set in an oblique 
or italic font. A similar *visual* effect can be achieved either 
through the use of:
- an italic font-tag iPublication/i (probably deprecated)
- an emphasis tag emPublication/em
- styling a span span class=pubPublication/span (with companion 
CSS)

As far as I'm aware, none of these methods have anything to recommend 
them from a semantic perspective.

Is there an alternative convention or standards-endorsed markup to 
communicate that the enclosed text refers to a publication?

Elegance preferred (i.e. rather than adding title tags to any of the 
above options).

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Re: [WSG] Another amazing css zen garden entry

2004-12-16 Thread Leslie Riggs
Now THIS is what makes designing with CSS fun!!  I just love this.
Leslie Riggs
http://www.csszengarden.com/?cssfile=http://www.css-praxis.de/cssocean/zenoc
ean.css
Make sure you look in a good browser and scroll down!
Russ
 

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Re: [WSG] Weird CSS validation issue

2004-11-24 Thread Leslie Riggs
Well, I noticed a wee thing, maybe it doesn't matter and maybe it does:
html xmlns=http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml; xml:lang=en *lang=em*
Maybe by tweaking that to read lang=en will fix something?
hope it helps,
Leslie Riggs
Hey all,
 
I'm still fairly new to CSS and wanted to validate my CSS before 
asking some advice from this group, but I keep getting weird errors 
ONLY when I validate the online CSS file. I'm using the W3C CSS 
Validation Service: http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/
 
I can validate my local copy of the CSS file and receive no errors, 
however when I try and validate my online version, it has errors 
everywhere. Actually, I didn't think the items that it's reporting 
were errors. For example, I'm using % for font-size - but it doesn't 
like this. It also fails on my shorthand hex colours (ie. #000 instead 
of #00).
 
The XHTML file validates fine, both locally and online.
 
Here's the relevant addresses:
http://www.lakemac.com.au/new/default.htm
http://www.lakemac.com.au/new/css/screen_home.css
 
What am I doing wrong? Thanks in advance for your help.

Best Regards,
Paul Hempsall
Web Developer
Lake Macquarie City Council
Tel: (02) 4921 0713
Fax: (02) 4958 7257
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Web: _http://www.lakemac.com.au_ http://www.lakemac.com.au/

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Re: [WSG] positioning problems on netscape

2004-11-23 Thread Leslie Riggs
Hello Matheus,
Before even starting to address the problem, you need to do a couple of 
things.

I notice your styles are completely embedded in your HTML.  
Additionally, you are not declaring a doctype in your HTML file, which 
could be part of the problem.

I would recommend that you research a bit about doctypes and put the 
appropriate doctype declaration on your file, try creating an external 
CSS file with your styles in it and reference it from the HTML file, 
then try validating both to see if there are any issues that come up. 

A good place to start learning about doctypes is  http://www.w3.org 
where you can then type into the search field doctype and you'll find 
some good links within the W3C site to help you.  That site also has 
HTML and CSS validators to help you spot any problems within your code.

If the issue persists, then we can begin to suggest some solutions to 
your problem.

Another suggestion is to develop for Netscape/Mozilla/Opera first, then 
tweak for IE.  The reason for this is because IE's flawed box model 
(among other things) needs to be compensated for, while the other 
browsers are much more Web standards compliant.

Leslie Riggs

i was building a web page and started to use some divs tag and style 
configuration. I was testing it on IE and everything was fine, but after i 
finished i opened it on netscape. 
That´s where the styles weren´t working and all positioning stuff were 
messed up. The style i fixed just removing some quotes (i´m really new on 
this) but i couldn´t find out why the hell it was all messed up. 

what am i doing wrong? 

div style=position:absolute; left:x; top:y; 
yara yara yara 
/div 

if anybody would like to take a look 
not my design but. 
www.quintfotos.com.br 

[]´s Matheus Neves 

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Só com o acesso Aditivado iG, a velocidade que você quer na hora que você 
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Re: [WSG] why oh why

2004-11-23 Thread Leslie Riggs
Using FF1.0 on a WinME machine, it doesn't render - I see the code instead.
Same result with FF1.0 on XP SP2.
Leslie Riggs

A friend of mine came across this site yesterday and when he accessed it
with Firefox he got nothing but code on the screen.
http://www.ceinternet.com.au/site/index.htm
I tried it with Firefox 0.9 this morning and got the same result. 
However
when the site is viewed with MSIE 6 and NS 7 you get the actual page.

Needless to say there is a wee validation problem.
Anybody got any ideas why it behaves so diffently with Firefox.

Rises out from lurk mode
I don't have any problem seeing it with FF1.0 .
/back to lurk mode
William Haggerty
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Re: [WSG] web essentials 04 - zeldman video keynote online

2004-11-20 Thread Leslie Riggs
That was absolutely terrific.  I loved it.  THANK YOU.  I'm still 
chuckling over Jeffrey's This is CSS, this is XHTML, and this is  
wait a minute... And at last, I understand what he was SAYING!!

I didn't have any problems with the QT SMIL at all, using WinME and 
Mozilla Firefox 1.0 - I did update my QuickTime before playing the 
movie, though, to make sure I had the latest version.

How hard was it to caption, Patrick?  Is it real time-consuming?  Would 
it be something doable for each of the presentations that are filmed?

(a delighted and thankful) Leslie Riggs
Patrick H. Lauke wrote:
Leslie Riggs wrote:
Anyone who provides transcripts or subtitling does an enormous, 
incalculable service for Deaf and hard of hearing professionals like 
me.  We get to smile, laugh, and ponder right along with everyone 
else, instead of a few seconds later.

Ok, call me enormous and incalculable...used the chance to play around 
with SMIL a bit.
http://www.splintered.co.uk/experiments/66/
Captioned as Quicktime SMIL 1.0. Takes ages to buffer, as it 
references Zeldman's original, non-optimised 9MB movie :(
Also available is a simple HTML transcript.

I'd be interested to hear about any compatibility issues of the 
embedded QT SMIL (particularly from Mac users).

Cheers,
Patrick H. Lauke
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Re: [WSG] web essentials 04 - zeldman video keynote online

2004-11-19 Thread Leslie Riggs
Any way there's a transcript available?  I'm deaf and so very 
interested in what Zeldman had to say.  I'd love it if I could read the 
transcript while watching the video...

What would send me to absolute nirvana would be to have the video 
contain captioning (subtitling) right IN the video - ohhh, just the 
very thought of it thrills me... thud Ugh, that was me coming back to 
terra firma.

Leslie Riggs

Not sure if it's been mentioned on the list already, but Zeldman's 
video keynote for WE04 is available online.

http://www.happycog.com/mov/
(although crikey, that 9MB file is not optimised for streaming - or 
whatever pseudo-streaming over http quicktime implements - meaning 
that you may be better off downloading it to your machine first)

Patrick H. Lauke
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Re: [WSG] web essentials 04 - zeldman video keynote online

2004-11-19 Thread Leslie Riggs
Patrick,
I was definitely serious.  I miss out on so many excellent online 
workshops, streaming audio, and presentations because I can't 
hear/understand the people who speak during those events.  Lipreading 
over the Internet has its limitations ;)

Anyone who provides transcripts or subtitling does an enormous, 
incalculable service for Deaf and hard of hearing professionals like 
me.  We get to smile, laugh, and ponder right along with everyone else, 
instead of a few seconds later.

Leslie Riggs

Leslie,
I'm trying to figure out if you were being serious, or just sarcastic...
but interestingly enough, I was actually going to do a quick transcript
of it this weekend and nudge Jeffrey to make that available as well.
I could also have a stab at SMIL...could be an interesting little exercise,
as I've done a bit of it in the past.
Watch this space :)
Patrick
 

-Original Message-
From: Leslie Riggs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 19 November 2004 15:15
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [WSG] web essentials 04 - zeldman video keynote online
Any way there's a transcript available?  I'm deaf and so very 
interested in what Zeldman had to say.  I'd love it if I 
could read the 
transcript while watching the video...

What would send me to absolute nirvana would be to have the video 
contain captioning (subtitling) right IN the video - 
ohhh, just the 
very thought of it thrills me... thud Ugh, that was me 
coming back to 
terra firma.

Leslie Riggs
   

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Re: [WSG] web essentials 04 - zeldman video keynote online

2004-11-19 Thread Leslie Riggs
I just did a search for subtitles in Internet media and found this... 

http://www.cpcweb.com/Webcasting/webcast_samples.htm 

I know it costs MONEY to get this - but there's another one called 
VideoLAN, which is free, open source software but I don't know a whole 
lot about it:  http://www.videolan.org/ - still researching this.  I 
want not only accessibility but also web standards compliance.  But, is 
that asking too much?

So, I guess the capabilities are out there.  And I'm proud to see a 
number of people right here in this group who have the skills and 
knowledge to create things like this with SAMI or SMIL.

Two organizations among my clients that are both comprised of and 
oriented toward the Deaf and hard of hearing community have asked me to 
look into creating streaming video of their representatives using 
American Sign Language to include on their websites - and we're looking 
at voice-overs for site visitors who may not be familiar with ASL, 
and/or, including text translations (captioning or perhaps just a 
paragraph next to/beneath the video) because accessibility works both 
ways.  Cost figures into the decision making process quite a bit.

Life gets a lot more complicated when we consider all the possible ways 
to be accessible.  I know I may be asking a lot, but I feel like I miss 
out, when I WANT so much to learn everything everybody else here gets to 
learn.

Talking Newspapers is a great idea - and an excellent solution for 
people with visual impairments.  Captioned/subtitled media on the Web is 
hugely popular with Deaf and hard of hearing people, because it's 
real-time information in a visual form.

Leslie Riggs

Now you've got me thinking. Is there anything similar to the Talking 
Newspapers service for internet content? Should there be? A group of 
fast typing volunteers/proofreaders could provide transcripts to 
popular non subtitled items. We'd barely be scratching the surface of 
what needs to be done but is it worth thinking about Leslie?

Janet
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Re: [WSG] Another site review

2004-11-04 Thread Leslie Riggs
Looks sharp - but doesn't validate.  No doctype??  Oh, wait...it's 
further down the page, should be right up top before anything else.  
Otherwise the validator defaults to HTML 4.01 Transitional, and with 
that you have some invalid markup to fix.

Leslie Riggs
Bennie Shepherd wrote:
I would like to get comments on my site.
http://bennieshepherd.com
Thanks guys...
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Re: [WSG] Another site review

2004-11-04 Thread Leslie Riggs
I went to the page by clicking your link, using FF, clicked on the 
Validator tab in the Web Developer toolbar.  Is there a glitch with that 
tab?

Leslie Riggs
Bennie Shepherd wrote:
The doc type is at the top of the page and the site validates xhtml 
strict.
Are you sure you validated the right site? :o)

On 11/4/2004 1:51:45 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Looks sharp - but doesn't validate. No doctype?? Oh, wait...it's
 further down the page, should be right up top before anything else.
 Otherwise the validator defaults to HTML 4.01 Transitional, and with
 that you have some invalid markup to fix.

 Leslie Riggs

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Re: [WSG] CSS drop-down menus

2004-10-30 Thread Leslie Riggs
Boy, that was a GOOD question!  I was all set to start a new project - 
this saves me some big headaches with my client! 

Leslie Riggs
Jeremy Keith wrote:
Shane Helm asked:
I am about to start a project that I am going to use CSS drop-down 
menus at the very top of the web page.  Directly below the menu bar 
will be a banner bar that will be done in Flash.  So before I begin, 
will the CSS drop-down menus drop down over the Flash banner correctly?

No. Embedded content (Flash, Quicktime, etc.) always appears above 
other content, regardless of z-index.

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Re: [WSG] Circle menu

2004-10-22 Thread Leslie Riggs

Greetings 
Any idea how to create a circle menu that fit the whole screen  with
html/css only ??
 

Do you have an example?  Perhaps a site that demonstrates what you're 
trying to do?

Leslie Riggs
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Re: [WSG] IE problem with CSS tabs

2004-09-30 Thread Leslie Riggs
I hope it's okay if I jump in here. 

Typically, to code links in CSS you'd use colons after the a, and in 
LVHA (link, visited, hover, active) order.  For example,

#tabmenu a:link {
whatever
}
#tabmenu a:visited {
whatever
}
#tabmenu a:hover {
whatever
}
#tabmenu a:active {
whatever
}
The a:active will be what determines how the link looks when a user is 
on that page.

It looks like you were trying to define classes for the links?  The 
colon is used with pseudoclasses as in the info I gave you above.

HTH,
Leslie Riggs
john wrote:
Isabel,
Forgive me, but could you please clarify your suggestion?  I tried 
moving the #tabmenu a.active code up one, but it didn't do anything. 
I'm really a newbie with CSS, so please bear with me.

~john
_
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Re: [WSG] A Church Website

2004-09-20 Thread Leslie Riggs
So, where's the link? :)
Leslie Riggs
Olajide Olaolorun wrote:
Hi guys, well I just wanted your feedback to a church website that I
was making. Though it still has some bugs, probably not much on IE5
please help me check it out
Also it is supposed to be avlid CSS and XHTML but I haven't checked it yet...
Thanks
 

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Re: [WSG] My Favorite XHTML/CSS/JavaScript/PHP Editor - NO WYSIWYG

2004-09-18 Thread Leslie Riggs
I'm currently test driving a free editor, PSPad Editor, which has Top 
Style 3.10 (trial edition) built-in - you can also get Top Style Lite 
which is a free version, instead.  I'm fast falling in love with Top 
Style.  So far, I'm finding it a pleasure to work with PSPad/Top Style.  
The best thing about it: it doesn't take up a huge amount of space on 
your computer, it's fast, and it's feature-packed.  Yes, you can write 
Javascript and PHP files in PSPad Editor, as well as C++, COBOL, Python, 
etc.  It doesn't slow down my machine or crash.  It's not WYSIWYG, but 
you can click to see what your code produces in IE and Mozilla.  No more 
fighting with the program just to get what I want out of it - at last, a 
tool that lets me concentrate on what I'm trying to accomplish.  Just a 
delight to use.

Leslie Riggs
jEdit:
http://www.jedit.org/
...and be sure to check out the recommended plugins in the jEdit Wiki:
http://community.jedit.org/cgi-bin/TWiki/view/Main/PluginsOverview
Nick
Greetings Every One!
 
After 1st Page 2000, I'm using AceHTML 5 Pro to build websites 
(info: http://www.visicommedia.com/). It is great for HTML and CSS 
developer, but not for a programmer who uses JavaScript and PHP.
 
... I'm getting tired of it :-(
 
What is your favorite XHTML Editor? (Please note that I'm not looking 
for WYSIWYG Editors)
 
--
Thanks in advance,
Behzad
 
P.S.
If you have no time, just mention the program's name :-)

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Re: [WSG] Moz vs. FF

2004-09-17 Thread Leslie Riggs
Am I glad to hear that.  I test-drove XStandard, but my browser of 
choice is FF 0.9.  I didn't like being forced to use IE, so that lasted 
about 10 minutes and I uninstalled XStandard.  Otherwise it's a great 
tool.  It's nice to know there will be an Active X-free version out soon.

Leslie Riggs
Amit Karmakar wrote:
I agree Patrick, considering there is no proper Active X support on
FF1.0PR which means XStandards wouldn't run unless it on the older
version. Although they(XStandards) are working on a new verion due in
a couple of weeks time which wouldn't need any active X at all.
 

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Re: [WSG] Unaccessible - NY Attorney General busts two big name sites

2004-08-23 Thread Leslie Riggs
O, do I second that emotion!!!  So many of us just can't get there, 
and this is invaluable information for us to learn.

Leslie Riggs
Nancy Johnson wrote:
Can his speech be put on your website in some form?
Nancy
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of russ - maxdesign
Sent: Friday, August 20, 2004 2:49 AM
To: Web Standards Group
Subject: Re: [WSG] Unaccessible - NY Attorney General busts two big name
sites
And of course, Bruce Maguire (the guy who sued SOCOG) will be speaking
about
accessibility and legal implications for Australian Developers at the
upcoming September WE04 conference.
:)
Russ

 

Have you forgotten Sydney Olympics web site, it was 4 years ago the
   

Human
 

Rights Commission awarded A$20,000 compensation in the Maguire vs.
   

SOCOG case.
 

You can find it all here: http://www.contenu.nu/socog.html
   

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Re: [WSG] Site critique

2004-08-16 Thread Leslie Riggs
Got the URL of your site? 

If the validator is telling you there's an issue with the code generated 
by Menu Machine, then I'd guess that Menu Machine does not generate 
standards compliant code?

Leslie
Tricia Fitzgerald wrote:
Hello ~ I am new to css layout design and just recently completed a 
site. I used Menu Machine
in the interest of saving time.

I have an issue with the Products header image moving slightly to 
the right when it's clicked
on. Is it Menu Machine causing this?

I have checked everything a dozen times and cannot figure it out.
Also, when validated I got 105 errors. The bulk of them had to do with 
MM.

Any suggestions appreciated.
Tricia
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Re: [WSG] ultimate noob question.... is table-less layout meaning literally?

2004-08-16 Thread Leslie Riggs
Table-less just means tables aren't used for layout.  When used to 
contain tabular data, that's not layout, that's containing data that 
SHOULD be in a table.

JMHO.
Leslie Riggs

What about http://www.sitepoint.com ?
That's as complicated a structure as any I've seen, and almost 
completely table-less.

That's a particularly good example, because it uses no tables to lay 
out the page, but right at the bottom where they've got a list of 
data, best displayed using rows and columns, then they *have* used a 
table. It's almost completely table-less because some of the data is 
table data.
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Re: [WSG] Ikon, where are you?

2004-07-30 Thread Leslie Riggs
I simply set up a filter for his messages - I'll take the filter back 
off after 14 August.

Leslie
Ted Drake wrote:
Is there anything we can do to keep the ikon messages contained for the next 2 weeks?  
He may be on a holiday, but he'll wish he wasn't when he gets back after two weeks of 
these responses.  If nothing else, I think we should spread some gossip like he uses 
the blink tag or something like that.
Ted

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Sent: Friday, July 30, 2004 12:34 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: RE: [WSG] Fixed vs flexible layouts
I am on holiday between the 30th July and the 14th August. I will reply to your 
e-mail as soon as possible on my return the following day.
Thank you for your understanding.
Jay Hills - Ikonik.net
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Re: [WSG] What Editors do you guys use?

2004-06-05 Thread Leslie Riggs




<>Visicom Media's AceHTML Pro. Version 5.09.1 is the latest live
version; version 6.01.1 is a pre-release version with some added
features but isn't the final version yet. I have both, I'm happy with
both, looking forward to the final version 6 release.

Right now you can buy version 5 and you'll get a free upgrade to
version 6.

http://www.visicommedia.com

Leslie Riggs

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Re: [WSG] Reminder about Sydney meeting - Thursday 10 June

2004-06-03 Thread Leslie Riggs
I can hardly wait to see the notes!  I'm very interested in the topic.
Leslie in the USA
Presentation notes will be online for out-of-Sydney members soon after the
event.
Thanks
Russ
 

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Re: [WSG] SkillSwap

2004-06-03 Thread Leslie Riggs
Well, darn.  Is there something like that in the US anywhere? 

I like the concept.
Leslie
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Re: [WSG] Css problems..

2004-06-03 Thread Leslie Riggs
First off, try validating your site - when I ran the W3C HTML validator 
it came back NOT valid XHTML 1.1 and there were three errors.

Second, although you've got a style sheet, your layout is still 
controlled by tables?

I would look at those first before trying to fix the white line issue.  
Using CSS for layout can give you a very elegant and clean design 
without all that markup you're using.

Just my humble opinion, for what little it's worth (I'm somewhat a 
newbie myself - always looking to learn).

Leslie
Hi,
i've a problem with Mozilla that i can't resolve.
In this site (www.comune.castelnuovo-berardenga.si.it) Mozilla display
a white line under the top banner and i can't understand why.

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RE: [WSG] Forms, labels headers

2004-05-08 Thread Leslie Riggs

  quote
  Stop! Before you do anything, the most important thing you can 
  do for your learning process is accept that a) it¹s going to take 
  time, and b) you will be frustrated along the way. /quote
 
 Been there and I do agree in principle - I like compact code 
 that makes
 sense.  But if it takes me 5 hours of experimenting to get a 
 CSS Only
 layout working in multiple browsers, I can't help but think 
 why bother.

Jumping in here.  I'm no CSS expert by any means but I've been learning
and the more I do, the more I retain, so I get better as time goes on.
It does take time, as Russ said, and I get frustrated lots of times.  I
occasionally hit a wall with something, but I'm not going back to
tables, not when I've seen the enormous benefits that can be realized by
using CSS for layout.  Tables have their place - and it's NOT layout.

I've also done the But I have no TME!' wail, too.  Believe me,
you'll waste a lot less time later, if you stick with learning and doing
CSS for layout now.  There IS a way to do what you want.

 Anyway...  Still puzzled why the selects in
 www.betterwebdesign.com.au/request-quote.asp don't work in 
 Netscape 7. 


Were you talking about Netscape 7.0 or 7.1?  I went to look at your site
in 7.1/Win, seems it's working fine on my machine.

Leslie

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RE: [WSG] My first CSS project

2004-03-31 Thread Leslie Riggs
Hi Teresa,
Good going!  Unfortunately, we can't evaluate your site if you don't
give a URL ;)

Leslie Riggs

 
 I have recently redesigned my business web site using CSS.   I was 
 looking for some feedback.
 
 The biggest obstacle I ran  into was on the  about us  Page. I am 
 wondering if  I over used the  padding command.
 

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RE: [WSG] Ot kinda ...CSS tags and Safari Bookmarks?

2004-03-23 Thread Leslie Riggs
I've used http://www.zvon.org and checked their reference pages for CSS
and CSS2.  Very helpful, with examples to demonstrate.

Leslie


 
 http://www.w3schools.com/css/css_reference.asp
 
 This one comes in handy personally. Or try Google for any 
 specific CSS tgs
 or attributes.
 
 
 - Darian
 
  Anyone know where I can find a *definition style* listing of CSS
  tags/attributes etc and what they do?

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RE: [WSG] Next Sydney meeting - a fantastic guest presenter

2004-03-18 Thread Leslie Riggs

For non-Sydney members, he has promised to write up a list of his top 50
accessibility issues. We will post this to the group.

Very exciting!
Russ


I'm very, VERY interested in reading what David has to say about
accessibility with regard to the needs of blind users, so I'll be
looking forward to the list.  I'm always looking for something to
improve upon in my work.

As a deaf user, I have had issues dealing with streaming audio/video
that does not include captioning to let me know what those people are
saying.  I'd really love to be able to see the news films and other
video on the Internet, and know exactly what those people are saying.
If captions are technically impossible at this point (granted, in those
small Quicktime screens, they'd be mighty small), then at LEAST, a
transcript should be provided via a link, or something.  I take this
into consideration when I work on sites that contain streaming
audio/video.  

If only I could get to Sydney...but it is not to be.

Thanks for the information, Russ.

Leslie Riggs


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RE: [WSG] New CSS site

2004-03-11 Thread Leslie Riggs
Title: Message



http://www.cinema4duser.comComments and crits 
most welcome.Peter

Impressive. Very 
clean, easy to navigate. Links work, downloads work, images are crisp, 
text is clear and pleasurably readable. Only thing I wondered about was 
the extra click I had to do, to get to the Omega Stone article. When I 
clicked on the link for the article about John Shakespeare, it took only one 
click to get to it; whereas it took two clicks to get to the Omega Stone 
one. That might mislead users a bit.

Clicking on the link for 
the featured download took me to a page that contained all available downloads; 
maybe it would be nice to go directly to the download for that image, then after 
the download completes, offer a link to other available downloads? Just a 
suggestion. The key thing is that everything works very well -this 
might make the user experience smoother.

KUDOS! Nice, nice 
job.


Leslie 
Riggs