Re: [WSG] FOUC Safari 2.0

2005-06-15 Thread Roger Johansson
On 16 jun 2005, at 04.23, Chris Kennon wrote: Has anyone any idea if the FOUC in Safari 2.0 is remedied with similar methods to IE? Safari's FOUC was introduced in 1.3/2.0 and seems to mostly appear on pages that have Google ads. Apple are aware of the problem, so I'm hoping a fix will b

Re: [WSG] the use of reset buttons on forms

2005-06-14 Thread Roger Johansson
On 15 jun 2005, at 02.48, Andreas Boehmer wrote: just wanted to hear what other people's thoughts on this topic are. I have been adding submit & reset buttons to most of my forms all along. But I am getting the feeling that the reset button is not only a waste of time, but in fact fairly user-u

Re: [WSG] Standards and ADS

2005-06-14 Thread Roger Johansson
On 14 jun 2005, at 14.20, Jad Madi wrote: Hi Will ADS break web standards in any mean ? such as Google ads, and Amazon ads? Yes. You need to use some workarounds to be able to serve Google ads if you use "application/xhtml+xml" to deliver XHTML. More info here: < http://www.456bereastr

Re: [WSG] Valid scenarios?

2005-05-06 Thread Roger Johansson
On 6 maj 2005, at 22.57, Lukasz Grabun wrote: Roger Johansson wrote: Unless I'm misreading the W3C Recommendation, blockquote elements can only have block-level content. That makes the second example incorrect. From < http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/struct/text.html#h-9.2.2 >: So yes, the

Re: [WSG] Valid scenarios?

2005-05-06 Thread Roger Johansson
On 6 maj 2005, at 21.53, Lukasz Grabun wrote: Matt Thommes wrote: TEXT TEXT - Is the even necessary? If so, does it go INSIDE or OUTSIDE the ? Both are correct. I use the former one when there are more than one paragraph to cite. Unless I'm misreading the W3C Recommendation, blockquote elements c

Re: [WSG] Validation error question for XHTML Strict

2005-05-05 Thread Roger Johansson
On 6 maj 2005, at 08.01, tee wrote: But it is in the div Example: You need a block level element _inside_ the form element: /Roger -- http://www.456bereastreet.com/ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ S

Re: [WSG] best practice?

2005-04-28 Thread Roger Johansson
On 28 apr 2005, at 22.04, designer wrote: Thing. The point is, this doesn't work in IE IE6 in standards mode does, actually. But you need to give the element you want to centre an explicit width. See "Centring (centering)" in this document: < http://www.456bereastreet.com/archive/200503/ css_

Re: [WSG] Accessible dropdown menus

2005-04-14 Thread Roger Johansson
On 14 apr 2005, at 09.07, Dmitry Baranovskiy wrote: I am not shure is my menu realisation fit to your requierments, but you could take a look: http://siter.com.au/dmitry/dyn-3-menu/index.html On 14 apr 2005, at 09.58, Jeremy Dowe wrote: There is a new article specially on the advantages and disadva

[WSG] Accessible dropdown menus

2005-04-13 Thread Roger Johansson
Hi all, I have a client that insists on having a dropdown menu. I have tried talking them out of it, but no. So I have to implement one of the web gadgets that I detest most of all. Fortunately only a basic single level vertical dropdown is needed. I've looked at some techniques but haven't fou

Re: [WSG] Main Content won't Center Align in IE

2005-04-01 Thread Roger Johansson
IE Doesnt understand "margin: auto" IE6 does, as does IE5/Mac. Only if you are worried about IE5.*/Win do you need the text-align hack. /Roger -- http://www.456bereastreet.com/ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http:

Re: [WSG] Change to application/xhtml+xml breaks background colour.

2005-03-20 Thread Roger Johansson
On 20 mar 2005, at 02.10, Michael Dale wrote: See the blue behind the header? That should be the background colour for the whole site. Now this only happens when I output application/xhtml+xml. Go have a look in IE (which gets text/html), its fine. Since you've started using application/xhtml+

Re: [WSG] Making accessible a one-text field form with an image submit button?

2005-03-20 Thread Roger Johansson
On 20 mar 2005, at 03.29, Sigurd Magnusson wrote: Cheers - had wondered about using display:none, but always feel a little annoyed there aren't better ways; it surprises me that an alt tag on the is insufficient. That's because the alt attribute is only relevant for input elements with type="im

Re: [WSG] Making accessible a one-text field form with an image submit button?

2005-03-19 Thread Roger Johansson
On 19 mar 2005, at 08.51, Sigurd Magnusson wrote: However, it seems that even if I put an ALT on the text field, the automated WCAG-AA test still fails the form; why?? Because it isn't associated with the text input field, which is what needs a label. I could put the label around the image butto

Re: [WSG] Around We Go

2005-02-16 Thread Roger Johansson
On 16 feb 2005, at 21.33, Chris Kennon wrote: This example of rounded corners (http://kalsey.com/2003/07/rounded_corners_in_css/), is elegant and efficient, but 2 years old. I've "googled" til blurry eyed, but have only found contemporary examples with 8 nested divs and other nightmares. W

Re: [WSG] " or " in copy?

2005-02-16 Thread Roger Johansson
On 17 feb 2005, at 03.14, David R wrote: I mean, provided you send the document from the server as unicode, why must we resort to entities for non-reserved characters? You don't. If you use unicode, you don't have to use character references. /Roger **

Re: [WSG] Why DO floats not stretch their containers?

2005-02-10 Thread Roger Johansson
On 11 feb 2005, at 00.17, John Horner wrote: My question is, *why* is the correct behaviour the first one? It takes a lot of people by surprise and they often see what IE does as the natural and obvious thing to do. I'm not trying to start a flame war, I really want to know! Eric Meyer's Contain

Re: [WSG] Your opinions about my weblog's new layout

2005-01-16 Thread Roger Johansson
On 16 jan 2005, at 07.44, Bruno Torres wrote: People using mac please, check it for me (iCapture is not working so I have nowhere to test on mac browsers). Nice! Looks good in Safari, OmniWeb, Opera, and Firefox. The menu bar breaks in IE/Mac - the tabs are stacked vertically instead of lining up

Re: [WSG] Slightly OT... Interview with IE Dev team

2005-01-06 Thread Roger Johansson
On 6 jan 2005, at 19.14, David R wrote: But I'm convinced Microsoft will make IE7 support standards... why? Because VS 2005 supports the entire XHTML1.1 and CSS2.1 spec, even if Internet Explorer 6 doesn't. This would be wasting the VS dev team's time if they weren't going to make these features

Re: [WSG] Slightly OT... Interview with IE Dev team

2005-01-06 Thread Roger Johansson
A while a go, I wrote a bit about the problems with IE [1], and asked myself (and anyone reading) some questions about why Microsoft has not done anything to make IE better in several years. Several interesting theories are mentioned in the comments, but what I think is most likely closest t

Re: [WSG] Slow loading of CSS

2005-01-03 Thread Roger Johansson
On 3 jan 2005, at 14.02, Lea de Groot wrote: Its called a FOUC - a flash of unstyled content. Does this problem happen with other browsers? From memory, it only happens in IE5.5 and Safari (ok, that probably means it happens in Konquerer too...) Safari? I use it all the time, 10-15 hours a day, and

Re: [WSG] I really need MAC people to check out my CSS Zen Garden submission ... Please and Thank You!

2005-01-02 Thread Roger Johansson
On 2 jan 2005, at 18.26, Mani Sheriar wrote: If anyone on a Mac cares to check this out for me and just report any issues (or, hopefully, the lack of issues) and on what browser you looked I would GREATLY appreciate it. No apparent problems in Safari. IE 5/Mac, though, has a few hundred pixels of e

Re: [WSG] voice browser

2005-01-02 Thread Roger Johansson
On 2 jan 2005, at 20.24, Jorge Laranjo wrote: So, i need a Voice Browser to test the sites that i made. Is there any for MAC OS X? Not that I know of. However, there will be one in the next version of Mac OS X: VoiceOver [1]. Until then, I am not aware of any other solution than using Virtual PC

Re: [WSG] Checking in as many browsers as possible

2004-12-19 Thread Roger Johansson
On 18 dec 2004, at 20.12, Wong Chin Shin wrote: I've never failed to be amazed when somebody does a site review listing test results with 10 UAs or more. How many machines do you have running in your cubicle?!?!? One. A PowerMac G4 running Mac OS X, with Virtual PC installed. I can run any brows

Re: [WSG] accessible image form buttons

2004-12-16 Thread Roger Johansson
On 17 dec 2004, at 01.36, Andreas Boehmer wrote: The problem is the input style doesn't work in all browsers. In particular Opera and some of the Mac browsers will ignore them, if I remember correctly. A couple of months ago, I spent hours (or was it days?) making screenshots of styled form contr

Re: [WSG] LOCAL XHTML TESTING - HOW TO DO IT?

2004-12-12 Thread Roger Johansson
On 12 dec 2004, at 14.15, Charles Slack wrote: LOCAL XHTML TESTING - HOW TO DO IT? An easy way to check how Mozilla based browsers handle it is to change the file extension of your XHTML documents from .html to .xhtml. This will make Mozilla/Firefox treat it as application/xhtml+xml (check "View

Re: [WSG] alt or title...

2004-12-08 Thread Roger Johansson
On 9 dec 2004, at 08.23, Lea de Groot wrote: On Thu, 9 Dec 2004 07:20:56 +1100, Andreas Boehmer [Addictive Media] wrote: It's good practise to have the title attribute also on images (in addition to the ALT), as some browsers won't display the ALT Text as a tooltip. Does that validate? I didn't th

Re: [WSG] alt or title...

2004-12-08 Thread Roger Johansson
On 8 dec 2004, at 21.20, Andreas Boehmer [Addictive Media] wrote: It's good practise to have the title attribute also on images (in addition to the ALT), as some browsers won't display the ALT Text as a tooltip. alt = alternative text, used as a replacement _when the image can't be displayed_.

Re: [WSG] Defining A Definition List

2004-11-29 Thread Roger Johansson
On 29 nov 2004, at 22.58, Terrence Wood wrote: While we can argue that the date, author and article name may well be a list of meta-data for a news article the content is not... the article is the data. I think the concept of a news article is a well established one that doesn't need to be abstr

Re: [WSG] turkish text - can you assign a language or encoding to a div?

2004-11-22 Thread Roger Johansson
On 22 nov 2004, at 23.00, Ted Drake wrote: If you are doing a web site and you only have sporadic use of turkish characters, can't you wrap that text in a div and assign it a language? I haven't done this before so I'm asking not suggesting. But I thought that I have seen that as a semantic way

Re: [WSG] discussion at juicy studio: It's all in the MIME

2004-11-10 Thread Roger Johansson
On 11 nov 2004, at 01.40, Jason Foss wrote: Is anyone aware of a good reference on configuring Apache to serve the files as the correct MIME type? Something in English would be good - a system administrator I'm not! Does it need to be set up in a per-site basis (as they're all set up as Virtual Hos

Re: [WSG] Input File Format

2004-10-07 Thread Roger Johansson
On 7 okt 2004, at 20.42, Genau Junior wrote: I´m having some dificulty to set the size of [input=file] form element. I can set the width through CSS on Mozzila, but IE cant set the size that i formated on CSS file. Anyone can help me how i set a size on INPUT FILE on both browsers? Styling form e

Re: [WSG] Mac site check please...

2004-09-28 Thread Roger Johansson
On 28 sep 2004, at 08.37, Francesco wrote: I am developing using ASP.NET, which we all know is not XHTML compliant, Hi. You may be interested in the articles at ASP.NET Resources [1], more specifically Producing XHTML-Compliant Pages With Response Filters [2], which explains how to clean up the

Re: [WSG] website will not show in Safari

2004-09-25 Thread Roger Johansson
On 25 sep 2004, at 19.32, Parker Torrence wrote: not a typo http://www.wordiq.com/definition/ISO_8859-14 but I'm Ok. It isn't listed in Safari's list of character encodings, so I guess Safari just doesn't support it. http://www.unfolded.net/webdesign/parker-1.php using iso-8859-1 http://www.unfol

Re: [WSG] website will not show in Safari

2004-09-25 Thread Roger Johansson
On 25 sep 2004, at 17.14, Parker Torrence wrote: Greetings All, My name is Parker and I have a problem that is effecting a number of my websites on a number of domains. It seems that they will not display in Safari. (but I'm told that the favicon does show up.) You're right. Nothing at all shows

Re: [WSG] question about iframe accessibility

2004-09-20 Thread Roger Johansson
On 21 sep 2004, at 02.26, Ted Drake wrote: To satisfy level 2 I have a problem with a series of input fields. For multiple travelers, we have 10 boxes for ages. I have a label associated with the first age and then alt tags on the following inputs. Should I wrap all ten inputs in the lable ta

Re: [WSG] Better Flexible Rounded Corners Option? and Site Check

2004-09-09 Thread Roger Johansson
On 9 sep 2004, at 15.11, JW wrote: It shows fine in Firefox, Opera 7 and IE6 but it breaks in IE5. Any solutions? Probably box model related, if it breaks in IE5 and not IE6. I don't have IE5/Win handy here to take a look. In what way does it break? /Roger -- http://www.456bereastreet.com/ **

Re: [WSG] Better Flexible Rounded Corners Option? and Site Check

2004-09-08 Thread Roger Johansson
On 8 sep 2004, at 22.57, JW wrote: I am looking for a flexible rounded corners (with borders) that is not restrictive to size. Googled for some but most are filled with lots of complex solutions (lots of html meddling and tones of css codes). Hi. Take a look at what I came up with a while back: htt

Re: [WSG] Your Mozilla Vote Counts!

2004-08-22 Thread Roger Johansson
On 22 aug 2004, at 17.23, Vlad Alexander ((XStandard)) wrote: Mozilla fans, we need your help. The Mozilla version of the standards-compliant XHTML WYSIWYG editor "XStandard" is almost ready. Will that make it work on the Mac as well? I suspect not, but I'm hoping :-) /Roger -- http://www.456bere

[WSG] Internal CSS in XHTML served as application/xhtml+xml

2004-07-09 Thread Roger Johansson
Hello. I've started looking at serving XHTML documents as application/xhtml+xml to user agents that support it, and as text/html to the rest. It occurred to me that when using internal CSS (defined in a style element), enclosing the CSS in HTML style comments () to hide it from browsers which do

Re: [WSG] The Tables Revenge

2004-07-06 Thread Roger Johansson
On 5 jul 2004, at 22.43, ckimedia wrote: I've read this, and found it useful but isn't it retrograde making div's into table cells so we can style non tabular data in a table ? http://www.456bereastreet.com/archive/200406/ equal_height_boxes_with_css_part_ii/ I made that example to show that i

Re: [WSG] Please use plain text in emails

2004-07-05 Thread Roger Johansson
On 5 jul 2004, at 06.58, Hugh Todd wrote: So, please use plain text in emails if you want to be read. I second that. Tiny, unreadable text = I hit the delete key. /Roger -- http://www.456bereastreet.com/ * The discussion list for http://webstandar

Re: [WSG] Safari and Opera

2004-06-05 Thread Roger Johansson
On 5 jun 2004, at 12.56, 7 sinz wrote: Now i dont know if any one else has tried this ; but im trying to hide input borders which is working in Mozilla,IE ( all version/platfroms) but after doing a few browser cams, i notice that safari still place borders around the input's ,the same problem (

Re: [WSG] IE Max-width Emulation and Auto Centre

2004-05-31 Thread Roger Johansson
On 31 maj 2004, at 20.39, Mike Pepper wrote: One other issue: I'd like to maintain these product icons and associated text http://www.english-sofas.co.uk/els_new/ contemporary_leather_sofas_1.htm as auto-centre but I'm holding each model as a constrained image and text within a single href.

Re: [WSG] quotes on q tag

2004-05-31 Thread Roger Johansson
On 31 maj 2004, at 08.34, Lea de Groot wrote: How are people handling putting quotes on q tags? I used a quote yesterday and while moz (I think) and Safari both had quotes built in, IE did not. Is there a definitive approach? I though I might do it manually (and thus reliably), but setting q { qu

Re: [WSG] Correct way to swap style sheets based on Browser?

2004-05-31 Thread Roger Johansson
On 31 maj 2004, at 06.17, Justin French wrote: Then we @import an advanced style sheet over the top for modern browsers. IE4 and NN4 won't see this style sheet, because they don't support the @import function. @import url("css/modern.css"); IE4 actually does support @import, and will load th