Re: [WSG] [WSG Announce] Some links for light reading (22/12/09)

[Tom Livingston]

And the below would result in a single link to a page that says 'the
sky is blue'. I don't see how everyone would agree with everything in
a "Links" list.

As mentioned before, If you disagree with an article and/or it's
author, let the author know, not Mr. Weakley.




On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 1:09 PM, Al Sparber  wrote:
> -
>
> I think Russ needs to thoroughly read each of the articles he is considering
> for inclusion in his (one-way?) announcement and simply make sure that the
> subject is something that every subscriber to this list agrees with. Sounds
> simple enough to me.
>
> Merry Christmas (to all who will celebrate it).
>
> and loosen up :-)
>
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Re: [WSG] [WSG Announce] Some links for light reading (22/12/09)

[ben kahans]

If you don't like the links I recommend you employ the delete key from your
computer keyboard and remove the offending email - surely that is not too
hard.

Personally, I love browsing through the links when I have time.



On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 1:44 AM, Erickson, Kevin (DOE) <
kevin.erick...@doe.virginia.gov> wrote:

> You didn't give up did you Russ??? There is always hope if we choose to
> see it right?
> Please keep sending your links and don't let the "bad" apples spoil the
> whole bunch :)
>
> Sincerely!
>
> -Original Message-
> From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org]
> On Behalf Of Russ Weakley
> Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2009 8:55 AM
> To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
> Subject: Re: [WSG] [WSG Announce] Some links for light reading
> (22/12/09)
>
> ...Ahhh... I give up... there is no hope.
>
> Russ
>
>
> On 22/12/2009, at 10:46 PM, Rimantas Liubertas wrote:
>
> >> Will HTML5 make the Web even more invalid?
> >> <http://rebuildingtheweb.com/en/html5-make-web-more-invalid/>
> >
> > Can you provide any reason why you keep posting links to this site?
> > Yes the blog _seems_ to be about web standards, but the posts are just
>
> > speculation of poor quality and based on the lack of information,
> > misunderstanding and false assumptions.
> >
> > Sure, the guy has financial interest of keeping xhtml afloat, so he
> > may see the HTML5 as a threat, but that's not a good enough reason to
> > spout nonsense.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Rimantas
> > --
> > http://rimantas.com/
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RE: [WSG] [WSG Announce] Some links for light reading (22/12/09)

[Stephen Cannings]

I love this little link fest - always a gem in there.

Keep up the great work Russ!

Festive Seasonals to y'all.

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Behalf Of Al Sparber
Sent: Thursday, 24 December 2009 5:09 AM
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: Re: [WSG] [WSG Announce] Some links for light reading (22/12/09)

From: "Erickson, Kevin (DOE)" 

You didn't give up did you Russ??? There is always hope if we choose to
see it right?
Please keep sending your links and don't let the "bad" apples spoil the
whole bunch :)

-

I think Russ needs to thoroughly read each of the articles he is considering 
for inclusion in his (one-way?) announcement and simply make sure that the 
subject is something that every subscriber to this list agrees with. Sounds 
simple enough to me.

Merry Christmas (to all who will celebrate it).

and loosen up :-)

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Re: [WSG] [WSG Announce] Some links for light reading (22/12/09)

[Al Sparber]

From: "Erickson, Kevin (DOE)" 

You didn't give up did you Russ??? There is always hope if we choose to
see it right?
Please keep sending your links and don't let the "bad" apples spoil the
whole bunch :)

-

I think Russ needs to thoroughly read each of the articles he is considering 
for inclusion in his (one-way?) announcement and simply make sure that the 
subject is something that every subscriber to this list agrees with. Sounds 
simple enough to me.


Merry Christmas (to all who will celebrate it).

and loosen up :-)

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Re: [WSG] [WSG Announce] Some links for light reading (22/12/09)

[Shlomi Asaf]

Yes Russ.
If there was a web design prize for all your contribution to the web design
community, there's not even a question that you would have won that.

Anyone to pick up the gauntlet?


On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 1:01 PM, Andrew Maben wrote:

>  Yes, Russ - you're doing a great [and indispensable!] job. Keep the links
> coming, please.
>
> Thanks, and Happy Holidays,
>
>  Andrew
>
> http://www.andrewmaben.net
> and...@andrewmaben.com
>
> *"In a well designed user interface, the user should not
> need instructions."*
>
>
> On Dec 23, 2009, at 9:44 AM, Erickson, Kevin (DOE) wrote:
>
> You didn't give up did you Russ??? There is always hope if we choose to
> see it right?
> Please keep sending your links and don't let the "bad" apples spoil the
> whole bunch :)
>
> Sincerely!
>
> -Original Message-
> From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org 
> [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org
> ]
> On Behalf Of Russ Weakley
> Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2009 8:55 AM
> To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
> Subject: Re: [WSG] [WSG Announce] Some links for light reading
> (22/12/09)
>
> ...Ahhh... I give up... there is no hope.
>
> Russ
>
>
> On 22/12/2009, at 10:46 PM, Rimantas Liubertas wrote:
>
> Will HTML5 make the Web even more invalid?
> <http://rebuildingtheweb.com/en/html5-make-web-more-invalid/>
>
>
> Can you provide any reason why you keep posting links to this site?
> Yes the blog _seems_ to be about web standards, but the posts are just
>
>
> speculation of poor quality and based on the lack of information,
> misunderstanding and false assumptions.
>
> Sure, the guy has financial interest of keeping xhtml afloat, so he
> may see the HTML5 as a threat, but that's not a good enough reason to
> spout nonsense.
>
> Regards,
> Rimantas
> --
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Re: [WSG] [WSG Announce] Some links for light reading (22/12/09)

[Andrew Maben]

Yes, Russ - you're doing a great [and indispensable!] job. Keep the  
links coming, please.


Thanks, and Happy Holidays,

Andrew

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instructions."



On Dec 23, 2009, at 9:44 AM, Erickson, Kevin (DOE) wrote:

You didn't give up did you Russ??? There is always hope if we  
choose to

see it right?
Please keep sending your links and don't let the "bad" apples spoil  
the

whole bunch :)

Sincerely!

-Original Message-
From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org]
On Behalf Of Russ Weakley
Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2009 8:55 AM
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: Re: [WSG] [WSG Announce] Some links for light reading
(22/12/09)

...Ahhh... I give up... there is no hope.

Russ


On 22/12/2009, at 10:46 PM, Rimantas Liubertas wrote:


Will HTML5 make the Web even more invalid?
<http://rebuildingtheweb.com/en/html5-make-web-more-invalid/>


Can you provide any reason why you keep posting links to this site?
Yes the blog _seems_ to be about web standards, but the posts are  
just



speculation of poor quality and based on the lack of information,
misunderstanding and false assumptions.

Sure, the guy has financial interest of keeping xhtml afloat, so he
may see the HTML5 as a threat, but that's not a good enough reason to
spout nonsense.

Regards,
Rimantas
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RE: [WSG] [WSG Announce] Some links for light reading (22/12/09)

[Erickson, Kevin (DOE)]

You didn't give up did you Russ??? There is always hope if we choose to
see it right?
Please keep sending your links and don't let the "bad" apples spoil the
whole bunch :)

Sincerely!

-Original Message-
From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org]
On Behalf Of Russ Weakley
Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2009 8:55 AM
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: Re: [WSG] [WSG Announce] Some links for light reading
(22/12/09)

...Ahhh... I give up... there is no hope.

Russ


On 22/12/2009, at 10:46 PM, Rimantas Liubertas wrote:

>> Will HTML5 make the Web even more invalid?
>> <http://rebuildingtheweb.com/en/html5-make-web-more-invalid/>
>
> Can you provide any reason why you keep posting links to this site?
> Yes the blog _seems_ to be about web standards, but the posts are just

> speculation of poor quality and based on the lack of information, 
> misunderstanding and false assumptions.
>
> Sure, the guy has financial interest of keeping xhtml afloat, so he 
> may see the HTML5 as a threat, but that's not a good enough reason to 
> spout nonsense.
>
> Regards,
> Rimantas
> --
> http://rimantas.com/



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Re: [WSG] [WSG Announce] Some links for light reading (22/12/09)

[Jeff Reid]

- Original Message - 
From: "Rimantas Liubertas" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2009 5:39 PM
Subject: Re: [WSG] [WSG Announce] Some links for light reading (22/12/09)



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At least give me the option of reading your pages in English if you are 
going to argiue a point here on the list in English...otherwise I am forced 
to believe "predjuice" in your 'rant' here that may not be reflected in your 
opinions online.  Aren't we all 'one in the same' - those who embrace this 
communication technology called the internet or are we going to let it 
segregate us as history dictates?? 





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Re: [WSG] [WSG Announce] Some links for light reading (22/12/09)

[Rimantas Liubertas]

> Guys,
> Shouldn't this be a separate thread?

Maybe there shouldn't be any thread in the first place. On the other
hand, my complaint
was about "Some links".

Anyhow, I won't bother you anymore. My apologies to anyone offended.
Have a great holidays
and less "Out of office" replies next year.

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Re: [WSG] [WSG Announce] Some links for light reading (22/12/09)

[Jason Grant]

Rimantas:

HTML5 guys keep saying that HTML5 supports XML syntax, hence us XHTML freaks
can use XHTML5 without having to complain about anything. Maybe have a
discussion with our friend Bruce Lawson who will essentially tell you the
same thing.

I think you are being a bit too harsh on our friend Russ for posting some
links. I regularly disagree with a lot of stuff he posts, but I leave a
comment on the relevant blog to express my view, not blaming the messenger
in the process.

The world we live in is pretty strange. If HTML5 kicks in officially at some
point, it will be even stranger. There's no doubt about that in my mind.

Regards,

Jason

On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 10:45 PM, Rimantas Liubertas wrote:

> > I reckon HTML5 Nazis
>
> I thought I was being rude there…
>
> > should chill our regarding the XHTML debates as HTML5
> > and XHTML are interchangeable terms.
>
> How so? HTML5 has XML serialization, but that does not make HTML5 and XHTML
> "interchangeable" in any way.
>
> > Comments like this other guy made just add unnecessary negativity to the
> > whole thing.
>
> So no matter how wrong someone is nobody can say that without being
> "unnecessary
> negative"?
>
> > Russ is a legend in his own right and no one should even attempt to cyber
> > bully him. ;-)
>
> Asking for a basic QA when choosing links for "light reading" counts
> as cyber bullying?
> This place gets stranger and stranger…
>
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Re: [WSG] [WSG Announce] Some links for light reading (22/12/09)

[Peter Costello]

Guys,
Shouldn't this be a separate thread?

Thx
Pete

On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 9:39 AM, Rimantas Liubertas wrote:

> > It obviously worked in provoking discussion.
>
> Where do you see discussion there? Does "keep them coming" count as one?
> I am all for "them coming" but I'd like some QA applied to them too.
>
> > (And I reserve the right to keep my opinion about the original commenter
> to
> > myself ;-)
>
> Don't be shy. I will stick to my right (I hope I have one) to call BS
> when I see it.
> Just as I did five years ago when Vlad was pushing similar FUD about HTML
> on this same list. Now seems like he has a new target.
>
> > "Great minds discuss ideas. Average minds discuss events. Small minds
> > discuss people."
> > - Eleanor Roosevelt
>
> I was discussing the quality of the posts on rebuildingtheweb.com. I
> still think that
> this groups deserves better than writings of the guy who calls end
> tags "elements"
> and thinks that missing end tags for html and body elements in HTML4 is
> invalid
> markup.
> Seems Russ and you opted to discuss me instead. Do you think that quote
> still applies?
>
>
> Regards,
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Re: [WSG] [WSG Announce] Some links for light reading (22/12/09)

[Rimantas Liubertas]

> I reckon HTML5 Nazis

I thought I was being rude there…

> should chill our regarding the XHTML debates as HTML5
> and XHTML are interchangeable terms.

How so? HTML5 has XML serialization, but that does not make HTML5 and XHTML
"interchangeable" in any way.

> Comments like this other guy made just add unnecessary negativity to the
> whole thing.

So no matter how wrong someone is nobody can say that without being "unnecessary
negative"?

> Russ is a legend in his own right and no one should even attempt to cyber
> bully him. ;-)

Asking for a basic QA when choosing links for "light reading" counts
as cyber bullying?
This place gets stranger and stranger…

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Re: [WSG] [WSG Announce] Some links for light reading (22/12/09)

[Rimantas Liubertas]

> It obviously worked in provoking discussion.

Where do you see discussion there? Does "keep them coming" count as one?
I am all for "them coming" but I'd like some QA applied to them too.

> (And I reserve the right to keep my opinion about the original commenter to
> myself ;-)

Don't be shy. I will stick to my right (I hope I have one) to call BS
when I see it.
Just as I did five years ago when Vlad was pushing similar FUD about HTML
on this same list. Now seems like he has a new target.

> "Great minds discuss ideas. Average minds discuss events. Small minds
> discuss people."
> - Eleanor Roosevelt

I was discussing the quality of the posts on rebuildingtheweb.com. I
still think that
this groups deserves better than writings of the guy who calls end
tags "elements"
and thinks that missing end tags for html and body elements in HTML4 is invalid
markup.
Seems Russ and you opted to discuss me instead. Do you think that quote
still applies?


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Re: [WSG] [WSG Announce] Some links for light reading (22/12/09)

[Jason Grant]

I reckon HTML5 Nazis should chill our regarding the XHTML debates as HTML5
and XHTML are interchangeable terms.
Comments like this other guy made just add unnecessary negativity to the
whole thing.
Russ is a legend in his own right and no one should even attempt to cyber
bully him. ;-)

On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 10:26 PM, Jeremy Cabral wrote:

> +1 for my weekly dose of "Some links for light reading"!
>
>
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>
> On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 9:15 AM, Jean-Jacques Halans wrote:
>
>> Keep em coming Russ!
>> They are links for light reading after all, not gospel.
>> It obviously worked in provoking discussion.
>>
>> (And I reserve the right to keep my opinion about the original commenter
>> to myself ;-)
>>
>> JJ Halans
>>
>> "Great minds discuss ideas. Average minds discuss events. Small minds
>> discuss people."
>> - Eleanor Roosevelt
>>
>> 2009/12/23 Russ Weakley 
>>
>> Hi Rimantas
>>>
>>> Why did I post this link? Because the article has an interesting take on
>>> HTML5.
>>>
>>> This does mean that I agree or disagree with the article. I hoped that
>>> the article would lead to discussion and debate. I had also hoped that any
>>> discussion or debate would be conducted in a respectful manor (regardless of
>>> how strongly one feels that the other party is incorrect) and that anyone
>>> involved in the discussion would present their arguments rationally and
>>> calmly without sinking to personal attacks on other web standards group
>>> members (yes, the person who wrote the article is a member of this group).
>>>
>>> Ahhh... I give up... there is no hope.
>>>
>>> Russ
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 22/12/2009, at 10:46 PM, Rimantas Liubertas wrote:
>>>
>>>  Will HTML5 make the Web even more invalid?
> 
>

 Can you provide any reason why you keep posting links to this site?
 Yes the blog _seems_ to be about web standards, but the posts
 are just speculation of poor quality and based on the lack of
 information,
 misunderstanding and false assumptions.

 Sure, the guy has financial interest of keeping xhtml afloat, so he
 may see the HTML5 as a threat, but that's not a good enough
 reason to spout nonsense.

 Regards,
 Rimantas
 --
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Re: [WSG] [WSG Announce] Some links for light reading (22/12/09)

[Jeremy Cabral]

+1 for my weekly dose of "Some links for light reading"!


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On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 9:15 AM, Jean-Jacques Halans wrote:

> Keep em coming Russ!
> They are links for light reading after all, not gospel.
> It obviously worked in provoking discussion.
>
> (And I reserve the right to keep my opinion about the original commenter to
> myself ;-)
>
> JJ Halans
>
> "Great minds discuss ideas. Average minds discuss events. Small minds
> discuss people."
> - Eleanor Roosevelt
>
> 2009/12/23 Russ Weakley 
>
> Hi Rimantas
>>
>> Why did I post this link? Because the article has an interesting take on
>> HTML5.
>>
>> This does mean that I agree or disagree with the article. I hoped that the
>> article would lead to discussion and debate. I had also hoped that any
>> discussion or debate would be conducted in a respectful manor (regardless of
>> how strongly one feels that the other party is incorrect) and that anyone
>> involved in the discussion would present their arguments rationally and
>> calmly without sinking to personal attacks on other web standards group
>> members (yes, the person who wrote the article is a member of this group).
>>
>> Ahhh... I give up... there is no hope.
>>
>> Russ
>>
>>
>>
>> On 22/12/2009, at 10:46 PM, Rimantas Liubertas wrote:
>>
>>  Will HTML5 make the Web even more invalid?
 

>>>
>>> Can you provide any reason why you keep posting links to this site?
>>> Yes the blog _seems_ to be about web standards, but the posts
>>> are just speculation of poor quality and based on the lack of
>>> information,
>>> misunderstanding and false assumptions.
>>>
>>> Sure, the guy has financial interest of keeping xhtml afloat, so he
>>> may see the HTML5 as a threat, but that's not a good enough
>>> reason to spout nonsense.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Rimantas
>>> --
>>> http://rimantas.com/
>>>
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Re: [WSG] [WSG Announce] Some links for light reading (22/12/09)

[Jean-Jacques Halans]

Keep em coming Russ!
They are links for light reading after all, not gospel.
It obviously worked in provoking discussion.

(And I reserve the right to keep my opinion about the original commenter to
myself ;-)

JJ Halans

"Great minds discuss ideas. Average minds discuss events. Small minds
discuss people."
- Eleanor Roosevelt

2009/12/23 Russ Weakley 

> Hi Rimantas
>
> Why did I post this link? Because the article has an interesting take on
> HTML5.
>
> This does mean that I agree or disagree with the article. I hoped that the
> article would lead to discussion and debate. I had also hoped that any
> discussion or debate would be conducted in a respectful manor (regardless of
> how strongly one feels that the other party is incorrect) and that anyone
> involved in the discussion would present their arguments rationally and
> calmly without sinking to personal attacks on other web standards group
> members (yes, the person who wrote the article is a member of this group).
>
> Ahhh... I give up... there is no hope.
>
> Russ
>
>
>
> On 22/12/2009, at 10:46 PM, Rimantas Liubertas wrote:
>
>  Will HTML5 make the Web even more invalid?
>>> 
>>>
>>
>> Can you provide any reason why you keep posting links to this site?
>> Yes the blog _seems_ to be about web standards, but the posts
>> are just speculation of poor quality and based on the lack of information,
>> misunderstanding and false assumptions.
>>
>> Sure, the guy has financial interest of keeping xhtml afloat, so he
>> may see the HTML5 as a threat, but that's not a good enough
>> reason to spout nonsense.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Rimantas
>> --
>> http://rimantas.com/
>>
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Re: [WSG] [WSG Announce] Some links for light reading (22/12/09)

[Mohd Huzairy rezuan]

Russ, please keep us updated with the light reading links. Thanks for your
effort!

On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 1:03 AM, Dory  wrote:

> I agree... keep sending the links! It is up to us as to what we chose to
> read or not.
>
> Dory
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 6:06 AM,  wrote:
>
>>
>> Russ,
>>
>> Even though I have a lot of experience with GUI development and standards,
>> and have my own opinions on things,  I am reading your links everytime you
>> send them out.  Any article matters.  Please, keep sending those.
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Anya V.  Gerasimchuk
>> Web Designer, IT - Web Shared Services
>> UNIFI Information Technology
>> agerasimc...@unioncentral.com
>> (513) 595 -2391
>>
>>
>>  *Russ Weakley *
>> Sent by: li...@webstandardsgroup.org
>>
>> 12/22/2009 09:01 AM
>>  Please respond to
>> wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
>>
>>   To
>> wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
>> cc
>>   Subject
>> Re: [WSG] [WSG Announce] Some links for light reading (22/12/09)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi Rimantas
>>
>> Why did I post this link? Because the article has an interesting take
>> on HTML5.
>>
>> This does mean that I agree or disagree with the article. I hoped that
>> the article would lead to discussion and debate. I had also hoped that
>> any discussion or debate would be conducted in a respectful manor
>> (regardless of how strongly one feels that the other party is
>> incorrect) and that anyone involved in the discussion would present
>> their arguments rationally and calmly without sinking to personal
>> attacks on other web standards group members (yes, the person who
>> wrote the article is a member of this group).
>>
>> Ahhh... I give up... there is no hope.
>>
>> Russ
>>
>>
>> On 22/12/2009, at 10:46 PM, Rimantas Liubertas wrote:
>>
>> >> Will HTML5 make the Web even more invalid?
>> >> <http://rebuildingtheweb.com/en/html5-make-web-more-invalid/>
>> >
>> > Can you provide any reason why you keep posting links to this site?
>> > Yes the blog _seems_ to be about web standards, but the posts
>> > are just speculation of poor quality and based on the lack of
>> > information,
>> > misunderstanding and false assumptions.
>> >
>> > Sure, the guy has financial interest of keeping xhtml afloat, so he
>> > may see the HTML5 as a threat, but that's not a good enough
>> > reason to spout nonsense.
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> > Rimantas
>> > --
>> > http://rimantas.com/
>>
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Re: [WSG] [WSG Announce] Some links for light reading (22/12/09)

[Dory]

I agree... keep sending the links! It is up to us as to what we chose to
read or not.

Dory

On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 6:06 AM,  wrote:

>
> Russ,
>
> Even though I have a lot of experience with GUI development and standards,
> and have my own opinions on things,  I am reading your links everytime you
> send them out.  Any article matters.  Please, keep sending those.
> Thanks!
>
> Anya V.  Gerasimchuk
> Web Designer, IT - Web Shared Services
> UNIFI Information Technology
> agerasimc...@unioncentral.com
> (513) 595 -2391
>
>
>  *Russ Weakley *
> Sent by: li...@webstandardsgroup.org
>
> 12/22/2009 09:01 AM
>  Please respond to
> wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
>
>   To
> wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
> cc
>   Subject
> Re: [WSG] [WSG Announce] Some links for light reading (22/12/09)
>
>
>
>
> Hi Rimantas
>
> Why did I post this link? Because the article has an interesting take
> on HTML5.
>
> This does mean that I agree or disagree with the article. I hoped that
> the article would lead to discussion and debate. I had also hoped that
> any discussion or debate would be conducted in a respectful manor
> (regardless of how strongly one feels that the other party is
> incorrect) and that anyone involved in the discussion would present
> their arguments rationally and calmly without sinking to personal
> attacks on other web standards group members (yes, the person who
> wrote the article is a member of this group).
>
> Ahhh... I give up... there is no hope.
>
> Russ
>
>
> On 22/12/2009, at 10:46 PM, Rimantas Liubertas wrote:
>
> >> Will HTML5 make the Web even more invalid?
> >> <http://rebuildingtheweb.com/en/html5-make-web-more-invalid/>
> >
> > Can you provide any reason why you keep posting links to this site?
> > Yes the blog _seems_ to be about web standards, but the posts
> > are just speculation of poor quality and based on the lack of
> > information,
> > misunderstanding and false assumptions.
> >
> > Sure, the guy has financial interest of keeping xhtml afloat, so he
> > may see the HTML5 as a threat, but that's not a good enough
> > reason to spout nonsense.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Rimantas
> > --
> > http://rimantas.com/
>
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Re: [WSG] [WSG Announce] Some links for light reading (22/12/09)

[AGerasimchuk]

Russ,

Even though I have a lot of experience with GUI development and standards, 
and have my own opinions on things,  I am reading your links everytime you 
send them out.  Any article matters.  Please, keep sending those.
Thanks!

Anya V.  Gerasimchuk
Web Designer, IT - Web Shared Services
UNIFI Information Technology 
agerasimc...@unioncentral.com
(513) 595 -2391



Russ Weakley  
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12/22/2009 09:01 AM
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wsg@webstandardsgroup.org


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Subject
Re: [WSG] [WSG Announce] Some links for light reading (22/12/09)






Hi Rimantas

Why did I post this link? Because the article has an interesting take 
on HTML5.

This does mean that I agree or disagree with the article. I hoped that 
the article would lead to discussion and debate. I had also hoped that 
any discussion or debate would be conducted in a respectful manor 
(regardless of how strongly one feels that the other party is 
incorrect) and that anyone involved in the discussion would present 
their arguments rationally and calmly without sinking to personal 
attacks on other web standards group members (yes, the person who 
wrote the article is a member of this group).

Ahhh... I give up... there is no hope.

Russ


On 22/12/2009, at 10:46 PM, Rimantas Liubertas wrote:

>> Will HTML5 make the Web even more invalid?
>> <http://rebuildingtheweb.com/en/html5-make-web-more-invalid/>
>
> Can you provide any reason why you keep posting links to this site?
> Yes the blog _seems_ to be about web standards, but the posts
> are just speculation of poor quality and based on the lack of 
> information,
> misunderstanding and false assumptions.
>
> Sure, the guy has financial interest of keeping xhtml afloat, so he
> may see the HTML5 as a threat, but that's not a good enough
> reason to spout nonsense.
>
> Regards,
> Rimantas
> --
> http://rimantas.com/



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Re: [WSG] [WSG Announce] Some links for light reading (22/12/09)

[Russ Weakley]

Hi Rimantas

Why did I post this link? Because the article has an interesting take  
on HTML5.


This does mean that I agree or disagree with the article. I hoped that  
the article would lead to discussion and debate. I had also hoped that  
any discussion or debate would be conducted in a respectful manor  
(regardless of how strongly one feels that the other party is  
incorrect) and that anyone involved in the discussion would present  
their arguments rationally and calmly without sinking to personal  
attacks on other web standards group members (yes, the person who  
wrote the article is a member of this group).


Ahhh... I give up... there is no hope.

Russ


On 22/12/2009, at 10:46 PM, Rimantas Liubertas wrote:


Will HTML5 make the Web even more invalid?



Can you provide any reason why you keep posting links to this site?
Yes the blog _seems_ to be about web standards, but the posts
are just speculation of poor quality and based on the lack of  
information,

misunderstanding and false assumptions.

Sure, the guy has financial interest of keeping xhtml afloat, so he
may see the HTML5 as a threat, but that's not a good enough
reason to spout nonsense.

Regards,
Rimantas
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Re: [WSG] [WSG Announce] Some links for light reading (22/12/09)

[Jason Grant]

Rimantas,
How can you be so sure yourself about what you just posted regarding HTML5
vs. XHTML?
Thanks,
Jason
http://flexewebs.com/semantix

On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 11:46 AM, Rimantas Liubertas wrote:

> > Will HTML5 make the Web even more invalid?
> > 
>
> Can you provide any reason why you keep posting links to this site?
> Yes the blog _seems_ to be about web standards, but the posts
> are just speculation of poor quality and based on the lack of information,
> misunderstanding and false assumptions.
>
> Sure, the guy has financial interest of keeping xhtml afloat, so he
> may see the HTML5 as a threat, but that's not a good enough
> reason to spout nonsense.
>
> Regards,
> Rimantas
> --
> http://rimantas.com/
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[WSG] [WSG Announce] Some links for light reading (22/12/09)

[Rimantas Liubertas]

> Will HTML5 make the Web even more invalid?
> 

Can you provide any reason why you keep posting links to this site?
Yes the blog _seems_ to be about web standards, but the posts
are just speculation of poor quality and based on the lack of information,
misunderstanding and false assumptions.

Sure, the guy has financial interest of keeping xhtml afloat, so he
may see the HTML5 as a threat, but that's not a good enough
reason to spout nonsense.

Regards,
Rimantas
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