Re: [WSG] Embedding Flash

2004-09-29 Thread Albert Gedraitis
Johan's frontpage with the embedded Flash feature http://www.assetnow.com/anx/index.cfm/1,8,20,html works splendidly on my Safari 1.2.3 on Mac OS X3.4 Albert -- On Sep 21, 2004, at 1:31 AM, Johan Steenkamp wrote: I

Re: [WSG] Embedding Flash

2004-09-29 Thread Albert Gedraitis
My browser Safari 1.2.3 works just fine with Flash embed apparently in Satay context. I also had no trouble getting a live Flash with Macromedia default, Flash Satay, and Hixie as per Mark's chart/s. I must have a Mystical, Magical Mystery iMac (Summer 2000), OS X3.4 Albert On Sep 22, 2004, at

Re: [WSG] fixed background...

2004-09-29 Thread john
I haven't tried putting it in the body...I'll toy around with that. If that doesn't work, I'll test that javascript that Peter sent. Thanks. Anybody have some pointers as to why it's not doing it in FF? I'm sorry if I'm missing some basic list etiquette...am I supposed to post the code, or

Re: [WSG] Embedding Flash

2004-09-29 Thread Albert Gedraitis
Ian Your site, House Doctor, is working well in its Flash features, both the moving hand in the clock (ad) and the pix-rotation portrait. I'm working my way up the backlog I've accumulated on this Flash Embed thread, so my sends may seem to arrive out of a time warp. Oh yeah, I'm on Safari

Re: [WSG] Embedding Flash

2004-09-29 Thread Albert Gedraitis
Rimantas - I'm hoping that, along with classitis and divitis, you are not also excluding gedraitis. Yrs, Albert -- On Sep 23, 2004, at 8:26 PM, Rimantas Liubertas wrote: And yes, validation beauty is only skin deep. I will

Re: [WSG] fixed background...

2004-09-29 Thread john
Boy, do I feel sheepish. I get all caught up in ID's and side panels and what not...and the answer is as simple as...well...it's simple. A BODY background. Just a BODY background. (memo to myself...Keep It Simple Stupid). Thanks for not laughing... ;) ~john _ Dr.

[WSG] Web Site Structure Suggestions, Second Post!

2004-09-29 Thread Jeremy S. (WSG)
To the many members of WSG: This is my second post on this same subject, and I'm hoping that this time I'll be able to get a response. :-) I have built up a design in Photoshop, which you can view here or here. I'm looking to get help on how I should write up the structure for the site, as

Re: [WSG] Web Site Structure Suggestions, Second Post!

2004-09-29 Thread Neerav
you forgot the charset: meta http-equiv=Content-type content=text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 / otherwise looks fine Neerav Bhatt http://www.bhatt.id.au Web Development IT consultancy Mobile: +61 (0)403 8000 27 http://www.bhatt.id.au/blog/ - Ramblings Thoughts

[WSG] Unwanted extra space

2004-09-29 Thread Mary Wright
I'm just started working on my third table-free website and I'm trying to pay attention to standards but I'm stumped by a couple of spacing details and would appreciate some help. See www.zebragraphics.co.uk/ragamuffin. CSS is at www.zebragraphics.co.uk/ragamuffin/styles/main.css First, I

[WSG] IE problem with CSS tabs

2004-09-29 Thread john
Hello, Group. I have a curious problem. I am creating this site with CSS tabs, and making it so that the tab is on while visiting that page. Well, it works in Firefox just fine, but in IE it's not...when on the server. When viewing it on the local drive, it looks good.

RE: [WSG] Unwanted extra space

2004-09-29 Thread Bert
G'day First, I have extra space above and below the banner image - I just want 10px space, The banner image sits inside a paragraph. Paragraphs have margins, unless you set them to zero in your css. Easiest fix is to lose the paragraph - the image can go directly in the div. Second, I've

Re: [WSG] Unwanted extra space

2004-09-29 Thread Genau Junior
Thats a bug of IE. I use to apply this css hack to fix some bugs of IE Ex. div#nameofyourdiv { here... put the propreties that ALL the other browsers recognizes.. } * html body div#nameofyourdiv { put here the properties that only IE will recognize. } Genau Lopes JĂșnior WebDesigner

RE: [WSG] Unwanted extra space

2004-09-29 Thread Peter Goddard
Title: RE: [WSG] Unwanted extra space Hi Mary You have a padding of 10px in the banner div. Also Padding 10px in the navcontainer div. Try altering the padding rule for the navcontainer to: padding: 0 10px; if this doesn't shrink the whitespace enough, try the same rule in the banner div

[WSG] Slicing With Photoshop

2004-09-29 Thread Olajide Olaolorun
Hi, I have some questions about slicing in photoshop. First of all, I noticed that when I slice and save it with the css settings instead of tables, photoshop uses the x and the y axis thingy to put the layout in order which means everyhting cannot move ... I wanted to know how to center the

Re: [WSG] Slicing With Photoshop

2004-09-29 Thread Carl Reynolds
To move your sliced images to another place on the page, place all the stuff ImageReady (Photoshop) generates inside another div !-- generated slices here --/div, give the enclosing division position: relative and control its position on the page as you wish. I don't understand your question

[WSG] Are empty divs okay?

2004-09-29 Thread Shane Helm
I am working on my second CSS XHTML site. Home page thus far: http://sonze.com/lange/index.html CSS for the page: http://sonze.com/lange/css/master.css I have some empty div tags to be able to make a graphic a background image since this presentation is common to all pages. For example in my

[WSG] Preventing flash of unstyled content

2004-09-29 Thread David
Hello everyone, Does anybody know how to prevent the flash of (CSS)unstyled content that appears when a page is loading and the browser is yet to download and apply the stylesheet to the web page? I know I read about a technique for preventing this somewhere (maybe o on this list) but I can't

Re: [WSG] Are empty divs okay?

2004-09-29 Thread John Oxton
Hi Shane, Well, I don't know if it is okay but I've done it on more than one occasion. I have noticed that Internet explorer puts a nasty margin on empty divs, that might be something to watch out for. J Shane Helm wrote: I am working on my second CSS XHTML site. Home page thus far:

Re: [WSG] Are empty divs okay?

2004-09-29 Thread Shane Helm
Thanks John. Is there anyway to avoid the IE nasty margin. Should I put something in the div to avoid it? Would nbsp or a transparent gif or something help? How have you avoided the problem? Thanks for your time, Shane On Sep 29, 2004, at 12:55 PM, John Oxton wrote: Hi Shane, Well, I don't

Re: [WSG] Preventing flash of unstyled content

2004-09-29 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
knowing the name of the problem is half-way to finding a solution already... http://www.google.com/search?q=%22flash+of+unstyled+content%22 Patrick David wrote: Hello everyone, Does anybody know how to prevent the flash of (CSS)unstyled content that appears when a page is loading and the browser

Re: [WSG] Are empty divs okay?

2004-09-29 Thread Paul Novitski
At 11:35 AM 9/29/2004, Shane Helm wrote: I have some empty div tags to be able to make a graphic a background image since this presentation is common to all pages. For example in my html: div id=header3/div My CSS for header3 is as follows: #header3 { position: relative;

Re: [WSG] Preventing flash of unstyled content

2004-09-29 Thread Anders Nawroth
http://www.bluerobot.com/web/css/fouc.asp David wrote: Does anybody know how to prevent the flash of (CSS)unstyled content that appears when a page is loading and the browser is yet to download and apply the stylesheet to the web page? ** The

[WSG] best way to format Skip Nav link

2004-09-29 Thread Brian Duchek
Hi there group of gurus and list lurkers. What's the best way to fomat a skip navigation link at the top of a page so it doesn't appear in modern/styled browsers, but is still accessible to small-screen / mobile platforms and reduced-ability environments (screen readers and the like)? I've seen

RE: [WSG] best way to format Skip Nav link

2004-09-29 Thread Ted Drake
hi on a side note, I was in an accessibility seminar and they suggested using the term skip to main content because it sounds the best when vocalized by a screen reader. Ted -Original Message- From: Brian Duchek [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2004 2:11 PM To:

Re: [WSG] Web Site Structure Suggestions, Second Post!

2004-09-29 Thread Jackie Reid
personally i wouldnt use the H1 for your jezzjournal i would call that something else like logo div or whatever and use the H1 for the title of the post so that the h1 is not the same on every page. Otherwise you have set it up almost exactly the way i would do it... jackie

[WSG] PNGs and IE windows

2004-09-29 Thread Wayne Godfrey
Could someone please explain what I can and can't do with a PNG image in IE Windows? I have a logo with a soft drop shadow that works everywhere except IE Win. In IE, there is a gray box that where the transparency should be. So I tried one with a solid drop shadow and the transparent part of the

RE: [WSG] Web Site Structure Suggestions, Second Post!

2004-09-29 Thread Ted Drake
I like to use the H1 for image replacement and change the h1 tag for search engine optimized words that are still appropriate for those with the style sheet turned off. So, I agree with the first setup. Ted -Original Message- From: Jackie Reid [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent:

Re: [WSG] best way to format Skip Nav link

2004-09-29 Thread Mike Brown
Brian What's the best way to fomat a skip navigation link at the top of a Brian page so it doesn't appear in modern/styled browsers, but is still Brian accessible to small-screen / mobile platforms and reduced-ability Brian environments (screen readers and the like)? Hi Brian Another way of

Re: [WSG] Are empty divs okay?

2004-09-29 Thread Shane Helm
Thanks Paul. I haven't defined my h1-h6 styles yet just because I haven't gotten that far yet, but I will. I can change my header3 id to something more semantic. I currently was just using it to define a background image that needs no image replacement because it is not an actual text

Re: [WSG] PNGs and IE windows

2004-09-29 Thread Kevin Futter
My understanding is that while IE Win supports the display of PNG files, it doesn't support any of their transparency features. If you want to use transparency for images in a cross-browser safe way, GIF is really your only option. I wouldn't be holding my breath for IE to catch up either ...

[WSG] Yahoo CSS'ing

2004-09-29 Thread Nick Lo
http://9rules.com/whitespace/css_redesigns/yahoo_css_redesign.php ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in

[WSG] print style sheet question

2004-09-29 Thread Ted Drake
Is there a way to make a check box and radio button print with an empty box instead of a filled, black box? Here's a page with an example: http://v4.csatravelprotection.com/csa/packinglist.do I tried adding this to the print style sheet checkbox {background-color:#fff !important;} but it didn't

Re: [WSG] AOHell

2004-09-29 Thread Tim Shortt
On 9/28/04 7:08 PM Ryan Christie [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent this out: AOL browser is uses the IE engine, does it not? Yes. Most home users using Windows would still be using the IE driven version of the AOL browser (not sure about Mac). One thing worth considering when developing for AOL is the

Re: [WSG] PNGs and IE windows

2004-09-29 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
Kevin Futter wrote: My understanding is that while IE Win supports the display of PNG files, it doesn't support any of their transparency features. If you want to use transparency for images in a cross-browser safe way, GIF is really your only option. I wouldn't be holding my breath for IE to

RE: [WSG] gBrowser from Google

2004-09-29 Thread David McKinnon
WaSP reckons its unlikely, or the product of hallucinogenic substances: http://www.webstandards.org/buzz/archive/2004_09.html#a000446 8P David -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greer, Ben Sent: Wednesday, 29 September 2004 11:24 AM To:

Re: [WSG] Safari problem and fieldset

2004-09-29 Thread Albert Gedraitis
On my Safari 1.2.3, I see no problem. A good frontpage, but didn't delve deeper. Regards, Albert -- Imagination is more important than knowledge. - Einstein - On Sep 27, 2004, at 11:54 AM, Kim Kruse wrote: Hi, On this page http://www.mouseriders.dk/kontakt.php (and the other

Re: [WSG] Yahoo CSS'ing

2004-09-29 Thread Brian Cummiskey
Nick Lo wrote: http://9rules.com/whitespace/css_redesigns/yahoo_css_redesign.php Good writeup- but I must say yahoo has done a horid job so far. HTML Errors: 223 The css validates, but it is horrid. in 2 days, how could one ever remember what #v or where#v #v4.h appears in the document? IMO,

Re: [WSG] Slicing With Photoshop

2004-09-29 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Second, I want to know what the default layout settings, the width is. I sometimes try 800*600 but I hate it because it is too small and wanted to know what the default if for people with 1024*768 or whatever it is... I'm assuming you are asking what the best default monitor resolution you are

Re: [WSG] AOHell

2004-09-29 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
Tim Shortt wrote: You have to actually test on an AOL account to really see any affect of this (or any other) behavior (versus just running a local AOL browser, which I did for years). If you're really, really committed (or just masochistic) to testing it, but want to avoid having to actually

Re: [WSG] Yahoo CSS'ing

2004-09-29 Thread Darren Wood
Brian Cummiskey wrote: Good writeup- but I must say yahoo has done a horid job so far. HTML Errors: 223 The css validates, but it is horrid. in 2 days, how could one ever remember what #v or where#v #v4.h appears in the document? IMO, they need to get some developers in there who actually know

RE: [WSG] IE problem with CSS tabs

2004-09-29 Thread David McKinnon
John, 1. You've got your selectors a bit mixed up, they should be: #tabmenu .active a { ... } and #tabmenu .active a:link { ... } etc instead of #tabmenu a.active { ... } and #tabmenu a.active:link { ... } etc Then, the border and background for #tabmenu a.active:link is overriding the

Re: [WSG] AOHell

2004-09-29 Thread Tim Shortt
Patrick H. Lauke wrote: If you're really, really committed (or just masochistic) to testing it, but want to avoid having to actually get an AOL account, you can also run your own server http://www.aolserver.com/ and do testing on your local setup under true battle conditions...either that, or

Re: [WSG] Yahoo CSS'ing

2004-09-29 Thread Nick Lo
I agree it appears that way now but I think it's a little too easy/early to suggest it is and will end up that way. In that respect it'll be interesting to watch it develop. On a site of this massive scale I'd be very surprised if there are not a bunch of pretty screwed on heads knocking

Re: [WSG] increasing font size breaking layout

2004-09-29 Thread Albert Gedraitis
Cesar - Web users interested in your services will not be able to get much help if their browser is Safari 1.2.3. Sorry, but on this browser your site is a mess. Maybe someone else on the list can advise you what to do to make it Safari-accessible. Yours, Albert

Re: [WSG] IE 5.2 Mac and Site Issues - Any Help Appreciated

2004-09-29 Thread Susan R. Grossman
Thanks for pointing out the issues I was having. I have made the suggested changes and really appreciated the time y'all took to look at the site and suggest a solution. Thanks again - Susan On Tue, 28 Sep 2004 03:05:05 +, James Ellis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Susan I'd suggest

Re: [WSG] Yahoo CSS'ing

2004-09-29 Thread Brian Cummiskey
Darren Wood wrote: I think you're missing the point...agreed the code is well shoddy, but, as Scrivs says, this is a major step forward for the web. If the best/most popular site on the web is tableless and moving towards complete web standards, then it becomes very easy for us to sell