The Bo$$ wrote:
I really don't think accesskeys are all that good for accessiblity
though. See http://www.mezzoblue.com/archives/2005/01/04/im_still_off/
I think that's a matter of opinion. If you use numbers for your
accesskeys the conflicts are fairly limited. Even if few people use
them, they
On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 20:28:06 +, David R <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I've tried setting both div#wrapper to "min-height: 100%" but no change
> is observed.
>
> Does anyone have any suggestions for getting elements to "clear"
> floating boxes?
I have solved what I believe to be the same probl
BUT - for development purposes wrapping is far more readable. Same
way that code indenting is a nice thing to do but serves no practical
purpose.
Of course, if you're very concerned about page size (kb wise) the
wrapping, indenting etc are just pointless wastes of space.
Most of my pages are gene
Where the "Simple" edition is a vastly simplified version where there's
less emphasis on content/presentation separation, such as greater
support for attribute styles and perhaps a element? Where
each has a "Context Order" informing screen-readers in what
order to read the content?
No, t
Hi
The WSG has a dedicated CMS list - discussions about the applications
can be best be answered there...
All you need to do is edit your subscription at this link:
http://webstandardsgroup.org/manage/login_edit.cfm
Cheers
James
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admin
On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 03:09:08 +0100, JohnyB <[EMAIL PRO
Hi All,
I'm not 'doing a blog', but have started to put down some thoughts about
various areas of this 'new philosophy' which have me (as a newcomer of only
4 months to 'standards') totally confused. The first endeavour concerns the
classic - opening new windows. My scribbling can be seen at:
ht
We use number access keys.
a good article - http://www.clagnut.com/blog/193/
It also helps that we are trying to set a standard within our
organization. That way everyone is using the same access keys.
Sincerely,
Justin Thorp
http://thinkthenthype.blogspot.com
***
Can somebody please explain what the "content-language" meta tag is
useful for? Is it required for validity? I have a site that is being
translated into 6 languages, so should I include all the languages in
the "content-language" tag?
Thanks.
--
~john
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Dr. Zeus Web D
Matt May from the W3C's Web Accessibility Initiative wrote a really good
article for Digital Web magazine called, Accessibility From The Ground
Up. Its a really good introduction to accessibility and what it is. I
would recommend passing it around to fellow colleagues.
http://www.digital-web.c
Justin Thorp wrote:
http://www.digital-web.com/articles/accessibility_from_the_ground_up/
I did a presentation on Accessibility the other night. If you're
interested, here are my lecture notes.
http://www.andybudd.com/presentations/skillswap05/accessibility/
Andy Budd
http://www.message.uk.com/
*
Hi Bob,
You make a good point. But the reason I don't use new windows isn't
accesibility. It's an irritation at having new windows opened for me.
Being a firefox user, I open in a new tab when I want to and in the
current otherwise. People know what they want, generally, and are
able to perfor
On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 14:06:00 +, john <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Can somebody please explain what the "content-language" meta tag is
useful for?
It's not exactly meta tag. It's HTTP header.
See: http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc3282.html
Is it required for validity?
No.
I have a site that is being
I've seen where people use hidden DIV's that show/hide and who's content
changes depending on the function at hand... That works REALLY well. Just
an insight. I do think that "popup" style windows have a place in function
and can be convenient. It's in a mixed spot for me.
---
Josh Withrow
A question to answer your question. Would you consider pop up
windows as "focus-stealing" from a users point of view with regards to
controlling his browsing environment?
http://asktog.com/Bughouse/10MostPersistentBugs.html
compiled by Bruce Tognazzini
- Carmelyne Thompson
designer wrote:
H
Hello,
I am currently busy/trying to make a pure css website.. Not using tables
or frames.
The problem that has occured for the menu we are using a flashbased
menu. But because the index.php file is only one file which
reloads when clicking on something the flash menu also reloads all the time.
T
On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 16:03:29 +0100, Sven-Eric Buschgens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
The problem that has occured for the menu we are using a flashbased menu.
Is removing flash menu altogether an option?
It seems that you can do it with simple :hover and animgif
or it might be possible to get sim
One thing you may want to provide is an alternative text based menu with
/or without flash plug ins enabled. I've never encountered a .swf file
not refreshing along with the refresh button. :(
- Carmelyne Thompson
Sven-Eric Buschgens wrote:
Hello,
I am currently busy/trying to make a pure css we
Hi Carmelyne,
- Original Message -
From: "Carmelyne Thompson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: Monday, January 24, 2005 2:38 PM
Subject: Re: [WSG] scribbles
> A question to answer your question. Would you consider pop up
> windows as "focus-stealing" from a users point of view with re
Andreas, David, Boss, et al:
Thank you for taking the time to respond. Your comments have certainly helped.
Had forgotten about the invisible load associated with adding those popup menus
and the need for an alternate navigation system is JavaScript is turned off.
Cheers!
¤ devendra ¤
On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 16:03:29 +0100, Sven-Eric Buschgens wrote:
> Hello,
>
> The thing that I want is that either flash isn't reload on a refresh
> or loading a new content.. of a way to use flash in this
> situation where it wont be reloaded all the time. Hope that anyone
> can help me with this
I am pretty sure it is for if you have a second language pack on your
computer, the browser will load that before loading your site
(allowing the user to see the page in their foreign tongue).
On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 14:34:33 -, Kornel Lesinski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 14:
Flash takes a while to load on slow connections. I wouldn't use it
due to that fact.
On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 10:45:26 -0500, Tom Livingston
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 16:03:29 +0100, Sven-Eric Buschgens wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > The thing that I want is that either flash isn't
On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 11:38:11 -0500, Anthony Timberlake
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I am pretty sure it is for if you have a second language pack on your
computer, the browser will load that before loading your site
(allowing the user to see the page in their foreign tongue).
I don't understand wh
> Personally I think that HTML lang (or xml:lang) attributes
> are more appropriate (and precise).
Could you please elaborate more on this? I'm just wondering what I
should do for this site, since there are multiple languages. Should I
do anything at all?
Thanks.
~john
Hi,
I'm exciting a "burning time", but I adore FLASH, when used correctly.
In this instance spare yourself the headache and use an animated GIF
solution. This will increase accessibility options and spare you time
and energy.
On Monday, January 24, 2005, at 07:03 AM, Sven-Eric Buschgens wrote:
On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 17:08:47 +, john <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Personally I think that HTML lang (or xml:lang) attributes
are more appropriate (and precise).
Could you please elaborate more on this? I'm just wondering what I
should do for this site, since there are multiple languages. Shou
Hi,
Would this fall under search engine optimization? If so where could I
find more on the subject?
On Monday, January 24, 2005, at 09:35 AM, Kornel Lesinski wrote:
Screen readers as well as search engines use this information.
In HTML use lang,
in XHTML/1.0 use lang and xml:lang,
in XHTML/1.1
designer wrote:
>
> http://www.betasite.fsnet.co.uk/comment/scribblings.html
>
On this page, you write:
"Of course you can use javascript to open a new window
(onClick), but that isn't the point, is it?"
I think that's exactly the point, however. My understanding
is that the W3C did not remove
On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 10:10:52 -0800, Chris Kennon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Would this fall under search engine optimization? If so where could I
find more on the subject?
http://diveintoaccessibility.org/day_7_identifying_your_language.html
--
regards, Kornel Lesiński
***
It appears from some of the postings here that the use of Containers is considered to be superior to the use of Table. Is there a guide available to converting old beggers like me from Tables to Containers?
Regards
RobinClear skies and warm feet! (expat Brit in Czech Republic)Location: N 50°08'4
Try
the Eric Meyers on CSS book, part one or two. It will walk you through the
evolution of tables to standards in easy steps.
-Original Message-From: Robin Lauryssen-Mitchell
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Monday, January 24, 2005 10:41
AMTo: wsg@webstandardsgroup.orgSubject:
Hi,
Over the last year or so, I've been steadily pushing for improved use of
standards within one of my organizations sites. I've moved the site away
away from table based layouts and implemented CSS for presentation. The
initial transition (01) was an improvement; however, there are still
issu
I like the second one much better! Very nice.
On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 14:26:46 -0500, Michael Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Over the last year or so, I've been steadily pushing for improved use of
> standards within one of my organizations sites. I've moved the site away
> away from t
Thanks Kornel. Very useful resource.
¤ devendra ¤
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kornel Lesinski
Sent: Monday, January 24, 2005 11:32 AM
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: Re: [WSG] content-language[is it search op?]
On Mon, 24
since you are using a server-side language you can do an "if" statement to where if it meets the flash needs it gives the flash menu if not gives an alternative menu. or if just refreshing is the problem, cache the swf immediately. ok i think i read that wrong i use coldfusion and i know what i'd
> One of the issues I wanted to address first was source order versus
> screen arrangement of the various pieces of content. In the current
> So what do you guys think?
There is no right or wrong. There are the two basic arguments.
NAV BEFORE
* theoretically better for Search Engine Optimisation
Russ, isn't it NAV AFTER that is better for SEO, as the content is at
the top -- this leads to better keyword density, likliness of headings
being found etc?.
Terrence Wood.
russ - maxdesign wrote:
NAV BEFORE
* theoretically better for Search Engine Optimisation (as the content is at
the top)
**
> Russ, isn't it NAV AFTER that is better for SEO, as the content is at
Ooppps... Completely correct. The two headings should be reversed...
NAV AFTER
* theoretically better for Search Engine Optimisation (as the content is at
the top)
NAV BEFORE
* theoretically better for blind users (it is ea
Michael Wilson wrote:
My question at this point is: which is a better approach--nav first
with a skip to content link or nav last with a skip to nav link? I'm
inclined to think putting the nav last or at least after the main
content is better for screen readers and such as well as for SEO, but
I do
Hi all,
We've just been investigating using Fahrner Image Replacement, or one
of its more accessibility friendly derivatives, when we came across
the problem of printing.
It seems that in IE the default option is to not print background
images and colours. So a person printing our web page will n
One thing highlighted at an accessibility site design awards ceremony I
recently attended was the wish for developers to include a site map link at
the head jump links on all pages so non-sighted users could immediately jump
to the page and get a feel for site relevance to search topic, especially
On Tue, 25 Jan 2005 10:08:47 +1100, Ryan Sabir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
<...>
> It seems that in IE the default option is to not print background
> images and colours. So a person printing our web page will not be
> getting any of the headings that have been replaced with images.
>
> Has anyone
Rimantas is only giving half the answer.
I came across this problem as well, and although my solution isn't the
most elegant, it works.
We placed a div in the header with a class="print". The div contains a
header image that looks good on the printed page. The style sheet has
.print {display:none
I ... have started to put down some thoughts about
various areas of this 'new philosophy' which have me (as a newcomer of
only
4 months to 'standards') totally confused. The first endeavour
concerns the
classic - opening new windows. My scribbling can be seen at:
http://www.betasite.fsnet.co.u
I was thinking about your stereotypical Angelfire / Tripod user, the
"beginner hobbyist".
I think about them a *lot*. If it weren't for the ease of publishing,
the web would not have taken off. Doubt me? How many other networked
document protocols created in the early 90's or before do you use
Heya?
How would I tell a stylesheet to not put a line break at the end of an
Hx tag?
e.g.
My heading and some more text.
I want the words "and some more text." to appear on the same line.
How would I do this?
thanks, bye!
---
Ryan Sabir
Newgency Pty Ltd
2a Broughton St
Pa
Have you tried changing the DISPLAY style to INLINE instead of BLOCK ?
Gary
On Tue, 25 Jan 2005 12:31:15 +1100, Ryan Sabir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Heya?
>
> How would I tell a stylesheet to not put a line break at the end of an
> Hx tag?
>
> e.g.
> My heading and some more text.
>
> I w
display: inline
Cheers
Jeff Lowder
Accessibility 1st
E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Website: http://www.accessibility1st.com.au
On 25/1/05 12:31 PM, "Ryan Sabir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Heya?
>
> How would I tell a stylesheet to not put a line break at the end of an
> Hx tag?
>
> e.g.
> My h
Ryan Sabir wrote:
How would I tell a stylesheet to not put a line break at the end of an
Hx tag?
Apply "display: inline" to both the heading and the following tag.
Alternately, you could play with "display: run-in" applied just to the
heading, but it may not be supported by all browsers.
http://w
It is interesting to note that for us lot in Western Australia, that none of
the political party campaign websites for the state election next month
actually meet html or css validation.
http://www.waliberals.net/
http://betterfuture.com.au
http://www.greens.org.au
http://wwwdemocrats.org.au
ht
Hi all, me again...
Strange problem with text wrapping and background images here:
http://www.newgency.com/ryans/test/test.html
I'm trying to get the 'read more' graphic to always sit at the right
of the 'Read more' text. In Firefox this works fine, but in IE, when
the 'Read more' text wraps, th
G'day
http://www.newgency.com/ryans/test/test.html
I'm trying to get the 'read more' graphic to always sit at the right
of the 'Read more' text.
...
Is there any way to make this work correctly across browsers? or will
I have to give up on using css to put that image there. The style info
is in t
Mike Pepper wrote:
One thing highlighted at an accessibility site design awards ceremony
I recently attended was the wish for developers to include a site
map link at the head jump links on all pages so non-sighted users
could immediately jump to the page and get a feel for site relevance
to searc
Thanks for the info. Whilst waiting for books to be delivered I have found this site. Thought it might be useful to other aged ones, such as myself, to whom HTML used to mean "High tea mi' Lord?": http://www.elated.com/tutorials/authoring/css/
Regards
RobinClear skies and warm feet! (expat Brit
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